PassingShot:

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.

I hail you my Oga. Didn't know you are this intelligent. Hope someday I will have the opportunity of meeting you one on one cos you just made a deep impression on me.

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

What's the purpose of this thread. Allow people celebrate. No one can tell the impact of such victory yet, it may finally end up to the advantage of a south westerner, an easterner or even a northern pesidential candidate. We can't tell whom APC presents as her Presidential flagbearer or even if Buhari goes for a third term.
Stop taking panadol for another states political decision. Unless you want to tell me, you were present when PDP and Bayelsa agreed on any alliance. Moreso, where the SE/SS forged an eternal alliance with any party. Rather than evaluate what went wrong and restrategize to change the trend you're here spilling saliva. If the PDP doesn't put their acts together more states such as Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Imo, Enugu and Cross Rivers may go the APC way. 2023 is the agenda and people are planing towards that and you're here fuming.
Your political analysis on Nairaland is filled with boasts with usually translates to shame at the end. Take a nap.

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solmusdesigns:


@PaChukwudi44

This election pain some people oooo...


but then while they ask question about how 1+1 equals 2 , APC already controls 21 state out of the 24 required to win a Presidential Election and APC already made an agreement of rotation between North and South during their merger deal.. so only a political novice would ask how this favours SouthWest




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PassingShot:

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.

Plateau my state voted an APC governor in 2015 & 2019 but Buhari has never won elections there.

In 2011, Nasarawa state voted for Buhari's boy (Almakura) as a governor under CPC which was not even famous then, yet in that same 2011 & 2015, Buhari lost presidential elections in Nasarawa state.

Just as the OP PaChukwudi44 is saying. There is no direct relationship between the governor's party and national elections/the people's sentiments.

Bayelsa electing an APC candidate does not necessarily mean the Ijaws and Yorubas are now allies.

The only advantage a sitting governor from that party can do is to help in rigging that state's presidential election votes to a certain extent.

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

The SS/SW thing is your own made up story, the real and groundbreaking implication per what transpired in Bayelsa and the evolving political realities in the SS is the total isolation and relegation of the SE, it means there's less need for votes scavenging in the SE.

Pay more attention to the sad political and precarious realities in the SE and stop wailing over SS/SW alliance and regardless how you cut and dice your SW/SS lamentations, the SW is majorly APC and the APC making inroads in the SS is naturally the SW directly and indirectly part of the SS/APC alliance in the SS.

Where you in the SE stand in the grand scheme of things in Nigeria should be your own primary concern.

plaindealer:




The SS/SW thing is your own made up story, the real and groundbreaking implication per what transpired in Bayelsa and the evolving political realities in the SS is the total isolation and relegation of the SE, it means there's less need for votes scavenging in the SE.

Pay more attention to the sad political and precarious realities in the SE and stop wailing over SS/SW alliance and regardless how you cut and dice your SW/SS lamentations, the SW is majorly APC and the APC making inroads in the SS is naturally the SW directly and indirectly part of the SS/APC alliance in the SS.

Where you in the SE stand in the grand scheme of things should be your own primary concern.

so the Imolites who voted Ibriberism in 2015 what happened to them?are they not from the SE? You people have very short memories

plaindealer:




The SS/SW thing is your own made up story, the real and groundbreaking implication per what transpired in Bayelsa and the evolving political realities in the SS is the total isolation and relegation of the SE, it means there's less need for votes scavenging in the SE.

[b]Pay more attention to the sad political and precarious realities in the SE [/b]and stop wailing over SS/SW alliance and regardless how you cut and dice your SW/SS lamentations, the SW is majorly APC and the APC making inroads in the SS is naturally the SW directly and indirectly part of the SS/APC alliance in the SS.

Where you in the SE stand in the grand scheme of things in Nigeria should be your own primary concern.

Please I will liek to know more about these so called sad political and precarious realities in the SE.Kindly throw more light on it.

UdechiHD:
What's the purpose of this thread. Allow people celebrate. No one can tell the impact of such victory yet, it may finally end up to the advantage of a south westerner, an easterner or even a northern pesidential candidate. We can't tell whom APC presents as her Presidential flagbearer or even if Buhari goes for a third term.
Stop taking panadol for another states political decision. Unless you want to tell me, you were present when PDP and Bayelsa agreed on any alliance. Moreso, where the SE/SS forged an eternal alliance with any party. Rather than evaluate what went wrong and restrategize to change the trend you're here spilling saliva. If the PDP doesn't put their acts together more states such as Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Imo, Enugu and Cross Rivers may go the APC way. 2023 is the agenda and people are planing towards that and you're here fuming.
Your political analysis on Nairaland is filled with boasts with usually translates to shame at the end. Take a nap.

take your rants to the SW monikers who used the first three pages of the Bayelsa election thread to bash igbos.At a point I had to read again to make sure I was reading the right thread.What exactly was the correlation between the Bayelsa election,Igbos nor an alliance between the SS/SW?

solmusdesigns:


@PaChukwudi44

This election pain some people oooo...


but then while they ask question about how 1+1 equals 2 , APC already controls 21 state out of the 24 required to win a Presidential Election and[b] APC already made an agreement of rotation between North and South during their merger deal.[/b]. so only a political novice would ask how this favours SouthWest




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Bros this is news to me.Where did you get this from? BTW The winner of the presidential election is not determined by the number of states a candidate won.It is highest number of valid votes plus 25% in 2/3 of the states.A candidate can win more states and lose the election.Furthermore the fact that a state Governor is from a particular party does not mean the Presidential candidate will win in that state. Adamawa was APC during the last elections but what finally happened?

PaChukwudi44:


so the Imolites who voted Ibriberism in 2015 what happened to them?are they not from the SE? You people have very short memories

What's this irrelevant post got to do with your own SS/SW topic?

The whole of the SE didn't even matter in the last election so of what relevance is Imo and the whole of SE in the grand scheme of things?

Nowenuse:


Plateau my state voted an APC governor in 2015 & 2019 but Buhari has never won elections there.

In 2011, Nasarawa state voted for Buhari's boy (Almakura) as a governor under CPC which was not even famous then, yet in that same 2011 & 2015, Buhari lost presidential elections in Nasarawa state.

Just as the OP PaChukwudi44 is saying. There is no direct relationship between the governor's party and national elections/the people's sentiments.

Bayelsa electing an APC candidate does not necessarily mean the Ijaws and Yorubas are now allies.

The only advantage a sitting governor from that party can do is to help in rigging that state's presidential election votes to a certain extent.

And if you read my post with open mind, you'd realize I didn't say it automatically translates to an alliance or guarantees any future success. I clearly says it gives hope, confidence and leverage for future elections in the SS region.

PaChukwudi44:


Bros this is news to me.Where did you get this from? BTW The winner of the presidential election is not determined by the number of states a candidate won.It is highest number of valid votes plus 25% in 2/3 of the states.A candidate can win more states and lose the election.Furthermore the fact that a state Governor is from a particular party does not mean the Presidential candidate will win in that state. Adamawa was APC during the last elections but what finally happened?

you see, 2/3 25% is one of the requirement and the second is popular vote and 24 is two third of 36, APC has 21, again in these era of Buhari's second term i doubt APC would lose a state except judiciary says otherwise and Onoghen isnt holding sway of who handles what case Mohammed Tanko is.

As for details of the Merger Deal of APC by the founding fathers, its all on google spilled through interveiw of the stake holders present

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solmusdesigns:


you see, 2/3 25% is one of the requirement and the second is popular vote and 24 is two third of 36, APC has 21, again in these era of Buhari's second term i doubt APC would lose a state except judiciary says otherwise and Onoghen isnt holding sway of who handles what case Mohammed Tanko is.

As for details of the Merger Deal of APC by the founding fathers, its all on google spilled through interveiw of the stake holders present

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plaindealer:


What's this irrelevant post got to do with your own SS/SW topic?

The whole of the SE didn't even matter in the last election so of what relevance is Imo and the whole of SE in the grand scheme of things?

Well Just one SE state delieverd more margin to Atiku than the entire SW states did for APC.If there was any region that didnt matter in the last election,it was the SW.

I've been laughing at the SW ppl's comments. I don't take them seriously because everything is calculated towards Tinubu's 2023 pipedream

solmusdesigns:


you see, 2/3 25% is one of the requirement and the second is popular vote and 24 is two third of 36, APC has 21, again in these era of Buhari's second term i doubt APC would lose a state except judiciary says otherwise and Onoghen isnt holding sway of who handles what case Mohammed Tanko is.

As for details of the Merger Deal of APC by the founding fathers, its all on google spilled through interveiw of the stake holders present

AGAIN BRO ABOKI WILL NOT RIG ELECTION FOR YOU.CONTINUE DREAMING.BTW APC JUST LOST ADAMAWA,BAUCHI,SOKOTO,OYO

Bayelsa electing an APC candidate does not necessarily mean the Ijaws and Yorubas are now allies.

I dont even see how they're more allied than they were before?

This seems like a smokescreen to me.

PaChukwudi44:
I will live to see how that will happen especially without the 5%

The same way you lived long enough to see Saraki and Onnoghen out of their offices despite all your boasts

PaChukwudi44:


Please I will liek to know more about these so called sad political and precarious realities in the SE.Kindly throw more light on it.

Self explanatory, but let me give you just 2 highlights.

1. Do you have at least 1 influential, Nationally relevant and presidential quality political leader in the SE capable of winning any presidential election in Nigeria?

2. With all your PDP love, support and votes after so many elections, why is it still so difficult for the PDP to zone the presidency to the SE? Why?

Let's start from here.

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

I created a similar thread yesterday...

These Yoruba people are funny.

https://www.nairaland.com/5536472/why-some-people-get-depressed

PaChukwudi44:


Well Just one SE state delieverd more margin to Atiku than the entire SW states did for APC.If there was any region that didnt matter in the last election,it was the SW.

And where is atiku and the SE today? In political wilderness?

Dude, get real and stop peddling irrelevant and meaningless narratives.

plaindealer:




the evolving political realities in the SS is the total isolation and relegation of the SE, it means there's less need for votes scavenging in the SE.

Pay more attention to the sad political and precarious realities in the SE

Isolationist policies are not always a bad thing, sometimes as Nigerians we get engrossed in our sense of self importance. Forgetting God isolated himself on the seventh day.

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something. Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

Great question. Now I'd like you to tell us. When you and your brothers call the West betrayers, which agreement did they enter into with the South East that they reneged on?

We would like to know.

raumdeuter:


The same way you lived long enough to see Saraki and Onnoghen out of their offices despite all your boasts

Saraki completed his tenure and left like I predicted.Abgi.You people were the ones that boasted you will impeach Saraki

plaindealer:



And where is atiku and the SE today? In political wilderness?

Dude, get real and stop peddling irrelevant and meaningless narratives.

The fact remains that Buhari got his majority votes and 25% of the 2/3 states without the SW.If there was any region that was not needed in the last eelction that will be the SW

omenka:
Great question. Now I'd like you to tell us. When you and your brothers call the West betrayers, which agreement did they enter into with the South East that they reneged on?

We would like to know.

The west sabotaged a southern presidency in 2015 just to cut short the cycle when power will return back to them after Obasanjo.The rest of the south are eagerly waiting to pay them back.

PaChukwudi44:
Saraki completed his tenure and left like I predicted.Abgi.You people were the ones that boasted you will impeach Saraki

Saraki did not leave, he lost his re-election bid and was defeated soundly

raumdeuter:


Saraki did not leave, he lost his re-election bid and was defeated soundly

he completed his tenure as senate President without been impeached or removed like APC folks boasted

PaChukwudi44:


The west sabotaged a southern presidency in 2015 just to cut short the cycle when power will return back to them after Obasanjo.The rest of the south are eagerly waiting to pay them back.

Ogaaaa!!! I repeat, JUST AS YOU ASKED AS WELL, which meeting did they have with anyone that they would vote a Southerner and where and when did the meeting take place to warrant them being called betrayers for voting a Northerner?

If you cant answer this question, a similar question you asked ON YOUR OWN OP, then you must be a bigger hypocrite that we initially thought.

Pachucks, you are really wise o. I am amazed!

omenka:
Ogaaaa!!! I repeat, JUST AS YOU ASKED AS WELL, which meeting did they have with anyone that they would vote a Southerner and where and when did the meeting take place to warrant them being called betrayers for voting a Northerner?

If you cant answer this question, a similar question you asked ON YOUR OWN OP, then you must be a bigger hypocrite that we initially thought.

Go and ask my brothers who you said called them betrayers

PaChukwudi44:
he completed his tenure as senate President without been impeached or removed like APC folks boasted

He lost his re-election like APC people promised him and he has been thrown into irrelevance with Dino and Onnoghen