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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Magicians: 6:21pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
My brother once a bigot decide to go dead on the brain he or she remain dead in the brain. Nothing can be explained to you because you will fprvsd be dead in the brain till eternity PaChukwudi44: 2 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Nobody: 6:25pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LabDNA:How the voting will tell come 2023 depends on the candidates contesting. But your analysis still has much credibility. 1 Like |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 6:25pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Also Rivers, Delta, and Akwa-Ibom stopped delivering that much bloc vote for PDP even with a hated Buhari on the ballot. This is 2019 result: Delta- APC: 221,292 PDP: 594,068 Akwa Ibom- APC: 175,429 PDP: 395,832 RIvers- APC: 150,710 PDP: 473,971 Even in these region that are PDP strongholds in 2019, APC still recorded an average of 27% - 30% of the vote in comparison to PDP. Now tell me what will happen in 2023, when a Christian will be on the ballot. Do you think the figure will increase or decrease going by the current political trends? 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Nowenuse: 6:29pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: 2015 elections was one of the freest and fairest elections Nigeria ever had. I wonder why many ignorant people always question the population of votes that come out from Rivers state. Rivers state is the most populated state in the SE/SS. After Lagos & Kano, Port harcourt should be the most populated city in Nigeria and the city keeps on expanding and expanding in different directions that it may even merge with Aba in years to come. Another things is that Rivers people naturally take elections very seriously compared to other SE/SS people. This is why they always have the highest registered voters and people who collect their PVCs in the region. |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 6:38pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Why will anybody say election in Rivers is free and fair? RIvers that is always in a bloodbath even for governorship election is who you are putting in the same sentence with free election. Do you even know the antecedent of Rivers? 2015 election was rigged in Rivers, forget about the usual free and fair phrase, results are written in Rivers in that election Now back to our discussion, check the difference in Rivers figure between 2015 and 2019, and tell me how you can tell me any Nigerian state voters number is not rigged. This is exactky the same rigging template Yahaya Bello Employed in Kogi (Rig the numbers). Rivers presidential result in 2015: PDP:1,487,075 APC: 69,238 Rivers presidential result in 2019: PDP: 473,971 APC: 150,710 Can you please tell me what changed? 7 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by raumdeuter: 6:40pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: 1.4M gap in 2015 320K gap in 2019 Over 1M margin shaved in Rivers alone |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 6:44pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
raumdeuter: God will bless you. Can you see that mad changes in the number just because federal might was able to mitigate against the usual exuberant figure that PDP always write in Rivers State. Amaechi and his goons really tried for Buhari, they were able to make sure the numbers are down. That is what is called mad strategy and those online political illiterates always believed winning a state alone is what can be termed a success. The real success is reducing the votes in opposition strongholds and making sure a large vote is delivered in your strongholds. That is the template APC used in 2019, Yahaya Bello used in also in Kogi election. Obasanjo used the same template in 2003, check the result he got in the south and you will shake your head coz devil himself dey fear OBJ. 5 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Ojiofor: 6:48pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
plaindealer: What did we benefit from APC when Imo state was an APC state for 8 years? |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 6:52pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Ojiofor: Even as someone without knowlege of SE political terrain, I can still tell you Okorocha performed in his first 4 years as governor of Imo before he started losing focus in his second term. What has Abia people benefit from PDP since Abia State was under the mantle of PDP? Why did Abians vote Ikpeazu a failed governor with majority votes in 2019? 5 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by raumdeuter: 6:54pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: 2015 Akwa Ibom APC 58,411 PDP 953,304 Margin Almost 900K 2019 Akwa Ibom APC 175,429 PDP 395,832 Margin 220K A margin of 700k votes shaved from 2015 to 2019 2015 Delta APC 48,910 PDP 1,211,405 Margin of 1.1M 2019 Delta APC 221,292 594,068 Margin of 370K Another 700K margin shaved off Between Rivers AkwaIbom and Delta the 3 most populous SS states APC gained a margin of 2.5M votes from 2015 to 2019 5 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 6:57pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Wow, can you see that this SE guys don't understand politics and how it works? Even if APC fields a dog in 2023 with this template intact, they will win any presidential election in Nigeria. So the Igbos had better start planning for Tinubu or Osinbajo never to have the APC ticket coz if they do, then they will be sworn president in 2023. Even a failure like Yahaya Bello was supported by APC goons, let alone a national presidential election with an Osinbajo. 5 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by 0monnak0da: 6:58pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: Let us assume you are right. Will you also add your voice in support of those who disagree that the APC should choose a SE presidential candidate in 2023 1 Like |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by raumdeuter: 6:58pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: In 2019 APC defeated PDP with less than 4M votes. In the SS alone 2.5M votes margin was lost to APC in the last 4yrs. Imagine another 4yrs |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 7:01pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Now lets imagine more that in the next 4years, APC would have made better inroad to the SS and a Christian southerner will likely be the candidate for APC. The earlier these guys wake up to real politicking the better for them, coz they will still be hating till the SS take over them as the politically matured/strongest/useful region in the SE/SS bloc like they always claim. |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Ojiofor: 7:47pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: Ok,he started losing focus after he joined APC you mean? because 90% of his projects was done while he was still in APGA. Concerning Abia state,You and I knows that votes does not count rather INEC declares the highest bidder as the winner of an election.Ikpeazu never win any election in Abia state. 2 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by plaindealer: 7:49pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Ojiofor: I challenge you to list what was achieved before that 8 years and after that 8 years while I list what Rochas achieved withing the same 8 years. Are you ready? I'm. 1 Like |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 7:59pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Ojiofor: Okorocha joined APC in 2013 bro, so what exactly are you talking about. So you meant he only performed just 2 years in his 8 year tenure? why then was he voted for the second term in 2015 if he had not performed looking at the APC hate Tsunami that swept the SE in 2015. And No, The Abia voters voted for Ikpeazu, please stop talking about rigging. Most Igbos on here already said Ikpeazu was returned due to zoning within the state. Most of your online goons used that to back their argument. Even if a dog contested as a PDP candidate in 2019, the Igbos would have voted him. 3 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Ojiofor: 8:04pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: Abia voters never voted for Ikpeazu in 2015 but you can believe what you like if that will make you sleep fine this night. |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 8:06pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Ojiofor: Yes, Abians voted for APC and I can see that in the election result. Gracias! 2 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by 0monnak0da: 8:07pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero:Was there APC in 2013 |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 8:10pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
0monnak0da: Yes, Attached is a publication of premium times in May 7, 2013. Link: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/133168-okorocha-formally-joins-apc.html 1 Like
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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Ojiofor: 8:14pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Sanchez01: 8:19pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44:I think the celebration of those guys is purely on APC getting a hold of Bayelsa and not some alliance. The idea basically is that APC's presence in Bayelsa will very soon impact other South South states, particularly Delta State where Uduaghan, though useless, has been making moves to make the APC stronger in the state. Edo is in the bag already for the APC, which means the impact of the SE in a typical voting process now won't mean a thing to the APC as the governors will deliver a fair number of votes to the presidential candidate, that is if they don't end up winning. We shouldn't also forget the Akpabio factor in Akwa Ibom. The recent presidential result in the South East further revealed that the region's voting strength is not a threat to any opposition as opposed to what the South West revealed. And for a supposed PDP region which didn't deliver well as should, the area of focus for any opposition remains the South South. The West is always good with confusing aspirants which makes it difficult for any of them. In the end, winning Bayelsa is a major factor for the APC. The said alliance, I'm sure, is your interpretation but then, the win is big for the ruling party. 3 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Sanchez01: 8:30pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LabDNA:Not sure you understand the meaning of the words 'bloc votes'. There was no such as bloc votes in the South South in the recent elections. The difference between both parties wasn't wider than 400k votes, which should naturally be disturbing to the PDP as the region is supposed to a stronghold. Plus, there's no such thing as 'SESS'. Don't lump the SOUTH SOUTH with the SOUTH EAST in the name of politics. 3 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Nobody: 9:27pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44:No, the results shows that they will vote Atiku and Obi in 2023. Tinubu or Osibanjo is d next president..save this comment |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Nowenuse: 9:53pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LegendHero: Show me the registered voters in Rivers for both elections. 2019 was clearly rigged in favor of APC. Cos this also happened in Delta too since we can assume that elections in Rivers is different. What about Delta & Akwa Ibom? Why were they different too? |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by LegendHero(m): 10:48pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Nawa o. I’ve always respected you here coz you always comment as someone with knowledgeable history about the Middle belt. What happened today that made you start speaking off topic is a thing of concern to me coz I don’t even know how to reply you. Since 2003, the leading parties always rig in their stronghold. That was why there is a phrase about Nigeria politics that said “You can only rig where you are popular”. The SS number was rigged in 2015 because there is little or no opposition in ACN in the SS to challenge Jonathan. That was why we have those mad figures in 2015. The popularity of the PDP in the SS already waned in 2019 coupled with the fact that some SS’ner big wigs are in APC. They made sure PDP was unable to rig the numbers and the APC was able to garner almost more than 30% vote of that region. This is the simple explanation I can give. If you still remain adamant about your words then I don’t know what else to say. Gracias! |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Kpoikpoi: 12:25am On Nov 20, 2019 |
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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Kpoikpoi: 12:29am On Nov 20, 2019 |
It's very funny how the South East focuses so much on the South West forgetting that South South, North East, North West and North Central will never support them. How blind and dumb can an Okoro man be? 3 Likes |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by MetaPhysical: 1:14am On Nov 20, 2019 |
PassingShot: PaChukwudi, You cannot get this lesson anywhere, even if you paid for it in a seminar. Im sure you are bewildered by this brief tutorial here. It hits home, does it not? Now, show me you are a true Nwafor, a proud Igbo warrior....send a couple of thousands to Passingshot for appreciation. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by DMerciful(m): 1:49am On Nov 20, 2019 |
See how you guys celebrate rigging and writing of results. You think politics is like man utd Arsenal were you benefit nothing than entertainment? Here, the future of generations to come is at stake if we dont create a credible electoral process raumdeuter: |
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by tricksters: 2:26am On Nov 20, 2019 |
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