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Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:42pm On Nov 19, 2019
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by madridguy(m): 12:46pm On Nov 19, 2019

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by mrvitalis(m): 12:48pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

Oga this was unnecessary ...let them celebrate 2023 is not far again

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by DAVEZONIGLTD: 12:48pm On Nov 19, 2019
Truth.
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by horsepower101: 12:52pm On Nov 19, 2019
Ignore those comments. Some people are very desperate to taunt Igbos with anything.

APC ruled a south east state for 8 years yet some people accuse igbos of not moving on.

These frustrated people are angry at igbos and will find anything to throw at Igbos out of desperation.

I am glad most igbos on Nairaland chose to ignore them.

Bayelsa election Kwa that average igbos had no idea was going on. This is beyond stupidity.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by tpiar: 12:53pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.


The offenders on the flag hoisting thread, when I checked some of it, have a post history of trouble making and ethnic baiting.

How does this translate into an alliance forged by the recent election, someone explain please.
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 1:10pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by deboysben(m): 1:25pm On Nov 19, 2019
mrvitalis:

Oga this was unnecessary ...let them celebrate 2023 is not far again
you can't do anything if buhari says sw will continue after him.


Oga go and sit down you lost it when you supported this evil in 2015 and even turn yourself against your people thinking you are intelligent.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by deboysben(m): 1:27pm On Nov 19, 2019
horsepower101:
Ignore those comments. Some people are very desperate to taunt Igbos with anything.

APC ruled a south east state for 8 years yet some people accuse igbos of not moving on.

These frustrated people are angry at igbos and will find anything to throw at Igbos out of desperation.

I am glad most igbos on Nairaland chose to ignore them.

Bayelsa election Kwa that average igbos had no idea was going on. This is beyond stupidity.
seriously

though I'm not against them celebrating cos it's their time

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by deboysben(m): 1:31pm On Nov 19, 2019
PassingShot:

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.
i will believe this till 2022.

Remember 2023 is still far. Things can change before then.
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:32pm On Nov 19, 2019
madridguy:
grin grin grin Elder Chukwudu, open below links for your better understanding.

https://www.nairaland.com/5536515/david-lyon-visits-bola-tinubu

https://www.nairaland.com/5536559/david-lyon-calls-tinubu-leader

I already did.But I still dont get it

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:35pm On Nov 19, 2019
PassingShot:

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.

wrong assumptions.I could also infer that the North has started abandoning the APC with PDP"s victory in key northen states like Sokoto,Bauchi,Adamawa and even Kano(even though it was later rigged).

BTW You didnt say anything on the subject matter of this thread which is the relationship between the results of this election and the imaginary alliance between the SS/SW.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:36pm On Nov 19, 2019
deboysben:
you can't do anything if buhari says sw will continue after him.


Oga go and sit down you lost it when you supported this evil in 2015 and even turn yourself against your people thinking you are intelligent.

LOL LET HIM SAY IT FIRST grin grin

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by statusquoante: 1:37pm On Nov 19, 2019
The truth is, GEJ, the political lord and saviour of the pigggiddddiooots, 'defecting' to the APC is a blow below the belt for them. It's a pill too bitter to swallow! It's actually a death knell on the imaginary SE/SS alliance... grin

Will they support GEJ's action or go against it Will they now turn against GEJ for whom they have slaved and suffered all these years

Have Yorubas been right afterall in booting GEJ out in 2015 seeing his weakness

It's such a difficult time for piggiiidddiooots... smiley

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:38pm On Nov 19, 2019
Does the results of this election show in any way that the people of the SS especially the Ijaws will turn out and vote for Tinubu or Osibanjo in 2023 (Assuming if at all anyone of them gets the APC ticket)

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:39pm On Nov 19, 2019
statusquoante:
The truth is, GEJ, the political lord and saviour of the pigggiddddiooots, 'defecting' to the APC is a blow below the belt for them. It's a pill too bitter to swallow! It's actually a death knell on the imaginary SE/SS alliance... grin

Will they support GEJ's action or go against it Will they now turn against GEJ for whom they have slaved and suffered all these years

Have Yorubas been right afterall in booting GEJ out in 2015 seeing his weakness

It's such a difficult time for piggiiidddiooots... smiley

Wow thats news to me.I remember Someone supported a PAC candidate in the Ondo Election but no one called it defection

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 1:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


wrong assumptions.I could also infer that the North has started abandoning the APC with PDP"s victory in key northen states like Sokoto,Bauchi,Adamawa and even Kano(even though it was later rigged).

BTW You didnt say anything on the subject matter of this thread which is the relationship between the results of this election and the imaginary alliance between the SS/SW.
No, you can't say that since PDP has always been strong in those regions.

If you still didn't see my post to your poser as answering your question on alliance, I give up then.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 1:44pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
Does the results of this election show in any way that the people of the SS especially the Ijaws will turn out and vote for Tinubu or Osibanjo in 2023 (Assuming if at all anyone of them gets the APC ticket)
The answer is that there is more indication to suggest more friendly reception of BAT/Osinbajo and APC in the region entirely.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by deboysben(m): 1:44pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


LOL LET HIM SAY IT FIRST grin grin
oh you still hope in credible election where one can manipulate his strong base with federal might against his opponent. OK oo continue

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:44pm On Nov 19, 2019
PassingShot:

No, you can't say that since PDP has always been strong in those regions.

If you still didn't see my post to your poser as answering your question on alliance, I give up then.
Not since 2015.No one even imagined PDP had a chance of winning Kano the biggest state in the North.Who could have imagined that in 2015?

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:46pm On Nov 19, 2019
deboysben:
oh you still hope in credible election where one can manipulate his strong base with federal might against his opponent. OK oo continue



shebi you beleive aboki will rig for you kwa Kontinue dreaming dude

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 1:46pm On Nov 19, 2019
deboysben:
i will believe this till 2022.

Remember 2023 is still far. Things can change before then.
Yes. But we are analyzing current development.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 1:48pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Not since 2015.No one even imagined PDP had a chance of winning Kano the biggest state in the North.Who could have imagined that in 2015?
When did PDP win Kano?

The fact remains that PDP has always been strong in the north since 1999. You can't use what happened in 2015 to say otherwise.

On the other hand, the same can't be said of APC in the SS/SE regions since 1999. Common!

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by deboysben(m): 1:49pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


shebi you beleive aboki will rig for you kwa Kontinue dreaming dude
OK oo
Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 1:51pm On Nov 19, 2019
PassingShot:

When did PDP win Kano?

The fact remains that PDP has always been strong in the north since 1999. You can't use what happened in 2015 to say otherwise.

On the other hand, the same can't be said of APC in the SS/SE regions since 1999. Common!

Lol PDP became a nyamiri party in the North in 2015.In 2019 the North just showed us there are the real masters of sophisticated politics.I even see more Northern states falling to the PDP in 2023 especially if the APC goes ahead to field a southern candidate

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by tpiar: 1:52pm On Nov 19, 2019
Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP

You believe friendship and emotional sentiment carries more importance than interests in the overall scheme of things? In Nigeria?

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Kpoikpoi: 1:54pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by Kpoikpoi: 1:55pm On Nov 19, 2019
That's because you are Igbo and Igbos don't know anything about politics.
Keep looking you will see eventually.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 2:00pm On Nov 19, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


Lol PDP became a nyamiri party in the North in 2015.In 2019 the North just showed us there are the real masters of sophisticated politics.I even see more Northern states falling to the PDP in 2023 especially if the APC goes ahead to field a southern candidate

Did PDP win Kano in 2015 or 2019? You avoided that question grin

Do you expect PDP to field a Northern candidate?

Even if PDP does that, APC will not field a northern candidate but will still win the election. That debate is for another day.

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PaChukwudi44(m): 2:11pm On Nov 19, 2019
Did PDP win Kano in 2015 or 2019? You avoided that questio

Yes they won.

Do you expect PDP to field a Northern candidate

Its as sure as Man Utd not winning the premier league this year

Even if PDP does that, APC will not field a northern candidate but will still win the election. That debate is for another day.

grin grin grin grin I will live to see how that will happen especially without the 5%

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by PassingShot(m): 2:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
When did PDP win Kano? 2015 or 2019?

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Re: Lyon's Victory And An Imaginary Political Alliance Between The SS/SW by solmusdesigns: 2:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
grin

@PaChukwudi44

This election pain some people oooo...


but then while they ask question about how 1+1 equals 2 , APC already controls 21 state out of the 24 required to win a Presidential Election and APC already made an agreement of rotation between North and South during their merger deal.. so only a political novice would ask how this favours SouthWest




..

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