Xbee007:

My point is, if there are no terrorists there troops won't conduct fighting patrol there and they won't be ambushed there.

Alright thou

SamuelAnyawu:
Please fellows stop tagging me unecessarily on this thread . Enjoy your Military source.

Marte is among the LGA with no Civillian

So, no more 90% Chadian, ok.

jln115:
I was talking about the last 9 years as bidixiii stated.

Not the one in May 2009

Regardless out of the 3 crashes and 2 hard landings only one was adjudged to be pilot error......4 out 5 due to mechanical error....says alot!!!

SAAF A-109 crashes are mainly a result of pilot error.

Three pilot-error CFIT crashes during low-level tactical flight operations or training. Two mechanical failures in 2010 (later corrected) causing hard landings: A swash plate control rod break & a tail rotor failure. The cause of the April 2019 crash has not yet been released.

SuperSixSeven:


Have you seen the structural damage on the image? Helicopters are also made of composite materials, you cant fix them like a car by just putting a patch over broken parts. An airframe is stressed extremely during each flight, even hairline cracks will finally damage the aircraft in short time if not found. (Thats why they do these X-ray inspections during their servicetimes)

RIP AW 109

Exactly! You can't tell the extent of structural damage to the fuselage by that one pic.

kabe1:


SAAF A-109 crashes are 1.mainly a result of pilot error.

Three pilot-error CFIT crashes during low-level tactical flight operations or training. Two mechanical failures in 2010 (later corrected) causing hard landings: A swash plate control rod break & a tail rotor failure. The cause of the 2.April 2019 crash has not yet been released.

1. Uhm No
2. "location and type of impact indicate mechanical failure, either of the engine, gearbox or tail rotor"

- 4022: Crashed May 2009- cause pilot error 3 killed
- 4024: Hard landing November 2010- cause mechanical failure
- 4021: Hard landing December 2010-cause mechanical failure
- 4018: Crash March 2013- Cause believed to be pilot error as well as faulty night navigational equipment
- 4013: Crash November 2016 - cause mechanical error
- 4006: Crash April 2019 - cause mechanical error

jln115:

I agree 100% however I do feel Nigeria don't have any credible conventional threats at this moment to warrant spending money on tanks!! Personally I would rather see that money spent on assets that would be better suited for battling unconventional threats..... However I would definitely advocate the purchase of 4th gen multi role fighters like the Jf17(more than 3 though) which won't only be a great conventional deterrent but will also be a great force multiplier when battling irregular forces as well.

Budget being the major determinant I'd have gone for 5 or 6 rebuilt Su 25s for that price.

The military base of the armed forces of Mali was attacked by the #ISWAP jihadists. Scores of Malian soldiers are reportedly killed, can't post the pictures.
Am not surprised seeing Malian ISWAP wearing our woodland camouflage.

More

Malian soldiers captured by #ISIS Terror affiliate #ISGS.

bidexiii:
More

They got too comfortable and forgot they could be attack at any moment. And when will we learn to build base properly in this part of the world?

#ISIS West Africa Province #ISWAP pledges allegiance to new #ISIS Caliph Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi Qurashi in Nigeria.

Note array of arms they are with... Armbrust anti-tank launcher, AKM/AKMS/AK-47/AK-103, PKM, AGL etc.

Anyways some of them are already kissing the ass of there 72 virgins.

Xbee007:

They got too comfortable and forgot they could be attack at any moment. And when will we learn to build base properly in this part of the world?

True yarn mate......


Look at the pictures well, to me these base are way protected compared to NA bases

bidexiii:
The military base of the armed forces of Mali was attacked by the #ISWAP jihadists. Scores of Malian soldiers are reportedly killed, can't post the pictures.
Am not surprised seeing Malian ISWAP wearing our woodland camouflage.

That base doesn't look poorly built. What happened!

bidexiii:



True yarn mate......


Look at the pictures well, to me these base are way protected compared to NA bases

I could see some Hesco sandbags in the pictures. However, they are not tall enough.

And you could actually see the terrorists using their barriers against them just like we see in most ISWAP attacks on NA bases. Barriers surrounding a base should be high enough so that people don't lean on it and shoot the heck out of the people within the base.

Odunayaw:
That base doesn't look poorly built. What happened!

Nothing happened mate.....they base got overran

bidexiii:



Nothing happened mate.....they base got overran

The fact that they attacked over large flat terrain speaks to leadership challenges in the Malian army.
Very careful NOT to speak or criticize military operations that information is scant on.
I am sure in the coming days we will find out how this base was overrun.

kikuyu1:


Budget being the major determinant I'd have gone for 5 or 6 rebuilt Su 25s for that price.

I disagree!! much more you can do with a Jf17 than with a su25.....

LTGEN:

The fact that they attacked over large flat terrain speaks to leadership challenges in the Malian army.
Very careful NOT to speak or criticize military operations that information is scant on.
I am sure in the coming days we will find out how this base was overrun.

Are you know Kidding me.....?
What's wrong with a flat terrain, in fact that's should be an advantage to the soldier defending the Base. And this is not just a flat terrain/base, a well protected one. Am sure it was formerly used by French soldiers, now been used by the Malian forces.

Xbee007:

I could see some Hesco sandbags in the pictures. However, they are not tall enough.

And you could actually see the terrorists using their barriers against them just like we see in most ISWAP attacks on NA bases. Barriers surrounding a base should be high enough so that people don't lean on it and shoot the heck out of the people within the base.

The issue is most African soldiers morale are low and considering the poor training.
Going by the pictures am seeing, the Base protection/height is okay. They have centenary/observing post which they should have spotted the attack miles away.
The rule is never let these guys get close to you, hEll they will brake your line of defence and confusion will set in, especially in the night.
Considering the picture and time of the attack if am right, says a lot about our military

bidexiii:
#ISIS West Africa Province #ISWAP pledges allegiance to new #ISIS Caliph Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi Qurashi in Nigeria.

Note array of arms they are with... Armbrust anti-tank launcher, AKM/AKMS/AK-47/AK-103, PKM, AGL etc.

Anyways some of them are already kissing the ass of there 72 virgins.

I hope DHQ has seen the video.Where are these guys getting their weaponry and kits from.Some one is sponsoring, someone close by.

Toju200:
I hope DHQ has seen the video.Where are these guys getting their weaponry and kits from.Some one is sponsoring, someone close by.

90% of their weaponry are trophies from overran military bases.

jln115:
I disagree!! much more you can do with a Jf17 than with a su25.....

Current priority imo is ground attack for which the -25 Is tailor made. Also the price factor.

kikuyu1:


Current priority imo is ground attack for which the -25 Is tailor made. Also the price factor.

Exactly!! With the Jf17 you get a decent multi role platform which can carry PGMs and practically do everything the su25 can do but can also serve as an air superiority fighter if needed.

Also the Jf17 isn't that expensive

jln115:
Exactly!! With the Jf17 you get a decent multi role platform which can carry PGMs and practically do everything the su25 can do but can also serve as an air superiority fighter if needed.

Also the Jf17 isn't that expensive

Against which fighters?

kemicalreaction:


Against which fighters?

Chad has 3 Mig29 on order, one of which is already in service.

At this stage NAF has nothing to stop even 1 Mig29.

jln115:
Chad has 3 Mig29 on order, one of which is already in service.

At this stage NAF has nothing to stop even 1 Mig29.

This morning, I experienced Joy troops moving out, I suspect that they are troops of 6BN FOB Bonny based on the description on their vehicle.. it was a large number of soldiers, two trucks fully loaded and like 3-4 gun trucks.



But I was disappointed at the gun trucks ... How can they have like 3 gun trucks without a Gpmg or Dshk or Pkm, they only had Ak's on them and the Soldier Manning the gun port placed his Ak there (I wanted to laugh oo..but they were not smiling with anybody)

joshingjosh:
This morning, I experienced Joy troops moving out, I suspect that they are troops of 6BN FOB Bonny based on the description on their vehicle.. it was a large number of soldiers, two trucks fully loaded and like 3-4 gun trucks.



But I was disappointed at the gun trucks ... How can they have like 3 gun trucks without a Gpmg or Dshk or Pkm, they only had Ak's on them and the Soldier Manning the gun port placed his Ak there (I wanted to laugh oo..but they were not smiling with anybody)

pics or it never happened

seankafor:
pics or it never happened

Guy you come use ur own phone snap them ..like one was even putting on balaclava, looking like a thief ....U can imagine there was traffic jam, Even the lieutenant with them came down to control the road (though the lt. Was in the first vehicle, gun truck)

Xbee007:

I could see some Hesco sandbags in the pictures. However, they are not tall enough.

And you could actually see the terrorists using their barriers against them just like we see in most ISWAP attacks on NA bases. Barriers surrounding a base should be high enough so that people don't lean on it and shoot the heck out of the people within the base.

They should be made not just high enough but in a way that the outside part of the barrier should be made very steep or perpendicular so that the insurgents will not be able to climb up easily. This is some of the advantages of Hesco sand bags.

bidexiii:



True yarn mate......


Look at the pictures well, to me these base are way protected compared to NA bases

It could be that they got complacent or they did every thing right, did their best but still got overran ; remember that the mouse dream's dreams that would terrify the cat.