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Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 7:44pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
It does not matter whether the governor knows or not. The chief warder of Calabar prison (a federal one) take orders from the Supreme military council leader and he will follow orders either the governor of the region knows about it or not.

Just like Buhari can give command for any federal prisoner in Kirikiri to be released and Sanwo-olu will dare not question the directive.
Sanwo-Olu is a very poor example. You cannot compare a democratic climate to a military command and control structure and the protocols involved. Who controlled the soldiers in the Eastern Region?
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by 0monnak0da: 7:45pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Sanwo-Olu is a very poor example. You cannot compare a democratic climate to a military command and control structure and the protocols involved. Who controlled the soldiers in the Eastern Region?
OK what about the release of Obasanjo in 1998?
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LabDNA:
Xbee007:
I don't usually get involved in this sort of argument but you misled people, myself inclusive, when you posted the picture of that book.
If you read his post in its entirety and you're honest to yourself, you will conclude that he was requesting for a book of Awolowo that you've read that aludes to Ojukwu releasing Awo. Because that was the crux of this argument.
Instead, you posted a book published in 1960 and never alluded to that fact.
It's either you are not a good reader or you trying to be clever by half or both.

I have asserted severally that in all of his books he never mentioned that Gowon released him and refused to admit that Ojukwu released for reasons I have stated above (go back and read slowly). Even though only the East had the power to release him as Ojukwu had called a press conference to declare that the East won't recognize Gowon.

I posted the book because I needed to debunk his attempt to discredit my claims of reading Awo's books and try to create doubt on my credibility. How do I drum this into your amygdala and cerebellum.

Again, in all of his books, pre-independence and post-independence he never mentioned being released by Gowon or Ojukwu. Awo was a very proud and stubborn boy in his youth. Before he completed standard 3 (primary school) in 1927 he had already served 4 different masters due to his stubborness. He was either sent home or ran away from their homes.

Read his books and get into his mind. Not propaganda.
Stop pretending to be blind because you already have your preconceived bias and narratives.

Good night.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by 0monnak0da: 7:49pm On Nov 21, 2019
LabDNA:
It's either you are not a good reader or you trying to be clever by half or both.

I have asserted severally that in all of his books he never mentioned that Gowon released him and refused to admit that Ojukwu released for reasons I have stated above (go back and read slowly). Even though only the East had the power to release him as Ojukwu had called a press conference to declare that the East won't recognize Gowon.

I posted the book because I needed to debunk his attempt to discredit my claims of reading Awo's books and try to create doubt on my credibility. How do I drum this into your amygdala and cerebellum.

Again, in all of his books, pre-independence and post-independence he never mentioned being released by Gowon or Ojukwu. Awo was a very proud and stubborn boy in his youth. Before completed standard 3 (primary school) in 1927 he had already served 4 different masters due to his stubborness.

Read his books and get into his mind. Not propaganda.
Stop pretending to be blind because you already have your preconceived bias and narratives.

Good night.
Di Mandela state who released him in his biography?

Did Obasanjo state who released him in any books

Did Fela mention IBB in any of his songshuh
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by ProudDick: 7:54pm On Nov 21, 2019
MelesZenawi:
You must really be a joke.
You created falsehood and expected dialogue.

World of fantasies.





All I know is that Obafemi Awolowo made a mortal mistake of assuming he can poke Igbos without consequences......and of course he died regretting it.
Died regretting what? He lived a fulfilled life. Ojukwu ate his vomit. His Biafra failed and he died trying to rule a country he tried to divide.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by ProudDick: 7:55pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
So you think the prison chief warder can release Awolowo, the leader of the Yorubas without the Governor of the region knowing about it? In a military regime? Not possible.
Everyone knows about it. It was in the news when Gowon made a declaration to his release.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Tranquillity360: 7:56pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
This is the same Ojukwu asking the govenment to return to Nigeria after he was in exile in 1979. You will clearly see that his desires to rule made him embark on a pointless war that costed all of us our unity. He was still keen on becoming a ruler of parliament in a country he fought against.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWM8OvgEE24&feature=youtu.be
Typical yoruba man.you have shown your really self and the mentality of a yoruba man towards Igbos.

You call it pointless war.


What cost the war?


Why you yorubas never asked Gowon why he didn't keep Aburi accord.

To you yorubas,Igbos is the cause of all your nigeria problem,allow them to go.No
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 7:56pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
Lol, dont mind them. Normally I should have stopped answering them since page 3 of this thread but that will give them more power to peddle the false narratives.

This is their modu operandi.
Deny the truth to the end even if you are taken back in time in the face of strong evidence.
Bring out personal assertions to try to bend the truth and invalidate its authenticity.
Resort to personal abuse to digress the author from the subject matter and pollute the thread.
Lastly, make sure you keep lying, lying, lying, and never budge anytime to accept any truth.


[b]I even have the video where Gowon convened the national conference in Lagos in September 13th, 1966 with all the regions represented. He was trying to ask the way forward from Nigerians and what mode of government system we wish to practice. How was he be able to convey that conference without him having control over Calabar prison a month earlie[/b]r.
Another faulty comparison.

A constitutional conference in Lagos attended by all regions in September does not in any way infer that Gowon had any authority over the Eastern Region. I hope you know the Eastern Region refused to attend the next conference held in October. Why did Gowon not force them to attend if he had control?
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by gidgiddy: 8:01pm On Nov 21, 2019
Johans1991:
you forget that Nigeria was not under regional government then, ironsi had already turned regional to unity government.
Secondly, in the military there is this saying "YOUR RANK IS YOUR AGE" as far as they promoted your junior to a rank higher than yours,you must I mean MUST take directives from him even if you senior him with 100yrs in d service.
Lastly, a governor have no right to release a federal prisoner without d permission of the president. For example, no south east governor have the right to release the ipob prisoners that are in prison now.
They told you that Ironsi removed Regional government? It wasn't true. What Region do you think Ojukwu declared as Biafra?

Gowon was not promoted.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Omoodua007: 8:06pm On Nov 21, 2019
Tranquillity360:
Typical yoruba man.you have shown your really self and the mentality of a yoruba man towards Igbos.

You call it pointless war.


What cost the war?


Why you yorubas never asked Gowon why he didn't keep Aburi accord.

To you yorubas,Igbos is the cause of all your nigeria problem,allow them to go.No
Yoruba is not stopping you from going pack and declare your Biafra
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by 0monnak0da: 8:06pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Another faulty comparison.

A constitutional conference in Lagos attended by all regions in September does not in any way infer that Gowon had any authority over the Eastern Region. I hope you know the Eastern Region refused to attend the next conference held in October. Why did Gowon not force them to attend if he had control?
Why did Ojukwu release Awo 48 hours after Gowon Ordered the Release even though Ojukwu had been governor nearly 8 months and 3 months earlier Awo had written to Ironsi seeking Pardon
Why THAT MOMENT?

Did Ojukwu go along with the order because HE AGREED with it or did he INITIATE IT independently



Did he issue a different pardon
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Magicians: 8:09pm On Nov 21, 2019
This is could be true but the burden to prove it is left to your Igbos. Do you have prove to that claim, that is all that some of us have been asking your forefathers fathers n now you
chiedozie198100:
yorubas and their penchant for lies.

awolowo even thanked ojukwu publicly for his release. he was hosted in Enugu, where he declared that if Biafra broke away, the west had no choice than to follow.

only for the master liar to cross over to the west and turned coat.

attempting to rewrite history is borderline INSANITY.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:09pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Another faulty comparison.

A constitutional conference in Lagos attended by all regions in September does not in any way infer that Gowon had any authority over the Eastern Region. I hope you know the Eastern Region refused to attend the next conference held in October. Why did Gowon not force them to attend if he had control?
No I don't know. Can you please give me a source to back your claims? I want to learn.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:10pm On Nov 21, 2019
Magicians:
This is could be true but the burden to prove it is left to your Igbos. Do you have prove to that claim, that is all that some of us have been asking your forefathers fathers n now you
Lol you wan give them heart attack. Where they wan see proof?
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Tranquillity360: 8:11pm On Nov 21, 2019
Omoodua007:
Yoruba is not stopping you from going pack and declare your Biafra
says by a Hypocrite yoruba man.

The Same igbos left in 1967 but your fathers fought for three years just to bring them back to your sad waste.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Magicians: 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2019
chiedozie198100:
yorubas and their penchant for lies.

awolowo even thanked ojukwu publicly for his release. he was hosted in Enugu, where he declared that if Biafra broke away, the west had no choice than to follow.

only for the master liar to cross over to the west and turned coat.

attempting to rewrite history is borderline INSANITY.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
OK what about the release of Obasanjo in 1998?
Did the Governor of the state say he wasn't aware that Obasanjo was to be released?
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Omoodua007: 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2019
Tranquillity360:
says by a Hypocrite yoruba man.

The Same igbos left in 1967 but your fathers fought for three years just to bring them back to your sad waste.
We are talking 2019
And no they didn’t fight to keep you they stopped and defeated your expansionist agenda
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
No I don't know. Can you please give me a source to back your claims? I want to learn.
Go look up page 183 of Ademoyega's "Why we struck".
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:17pm On Nov 21, 2019
Tranquillity360:
says by a Hypocrite yoruba man.

The Same igbos left in 1967 but your fathers fought for three years just to bring them back to your sad waste.
They fought you because you fore-bearers through Azikwe first made sure secession is not included in the constitution.

Azikwe also tried stopping the North from seceding. Do you know the North echoed the thought of seceding before? Zik had to type a lengthy statement to convince the North never to secede.

Azikwe also colluded with the FG and eastern region government to jail Adaka-Boro for treason when he tried secession of the Niger Delta.

Your military boys went along to kill the leaders of other region excepts theirs and they even had the audacity to mock other regions with the dead body of their leader.

For all this great sin you committed against Nigeria then, they will NEVER allow you to leave. The Biafran war is the payment for everything your fore-bearers did to Nigeria and they settled the scores with that war.

Now in 2019, anybody that stop you from leaving the country to get your Biafra is an idiot.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by 0monnak0da: 8:17pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Did the Governor of the state say he wasn't aware that Obasanjo was to be released?
|Did we say Ojukwu wasn't aware
huh
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:23pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
Why did Ojukwu release Awo 48 hours after Gowon Ordered the Release even though Ojukwu had been governor nearly 8 months and 3 months earlier Awo had written to Ironsi seeking Pardon
Why THAT MOMENT?

Did Ojukwu go along with the order because HE AGREED with it or did he INITIATE IT independently



Did he issue a different pardon
double post
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Chemcrown:
mrvitalis:
The east never recognized Gowon ,so how can they obey him
up till now only few easterners recognised Buhari yet they dare not disobey him. Do you know the meaning of military head.
Also, it was not eastern region that jail him but federal government now
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by gidgiddy: 8:25pm On Nov 21, 2019
The story of Awolowo's release shows just how things worked during the time of Regions.

The head of states powers are limited under Regionalism. Real power lay in the Regions. That's why Gowon could not remove Ojukwu as military Governor of the Eastern Region even though Ojukwu did not recognize Gowon as head of state. Gowon who was parading himself as head of state had to meet Ojukwu in Aburi Ghana for peace talks

In reality, Gowon had no powers as head of state and the Eastern Region did not recognize him.

That's why only a fool will believe that Gowon who was not recognized by the Eastern Region and Ojukwu, as head of state, could order the release of anyone in the East.

But the most surprising thing about all this is that despite all the powers that the Regions enjoyed under Regionalism, when Gowon abolished the Regions, only the Eastern Region had the guts to say no

When it was clear that Gowon and his Northern goons were out to abolish Regionalism in other to create states and perpetuate 'divide and rule', everyone except the Eastern Region said no.

Yorubas and the Niger Delta today ask for restructuring. But when it was time to join Ojukwu and stop the North from Balkanising the Regions and dominating everyone, they joined the North to fight Ojukwu.

In the face of divide and rule, oppression, slavery and domination by the North, they readily accepted slavery when Ojukwu was fighting for the freedom of his people

Today they are begging the North for the same powers that they helped the North to fight to take away from Ojukwu and his people.

What a tragedy
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
Why did Ojukwu release Awo 48 hours after Gowon Ordered the Release even though Ojukwu had been governor nearly 8 months and 3 months earlier Awo had written to Ironsi seeking Pardon
Why THAT MOMENT?

Did Ojukwu go along with the order because HE AGREED with it or did he INITIATE IT independently



Did he issue a different pardon
Ive been saying it over and over. Ojukwu AGREED and was in total support. Ironsi was not a good politician. He was scared to release Awo so as not to offend the north because their most important leaders had been eliminated in a coup designed to install Awo. I've read accounts of how there were attempts to murder Awo in prison. He didn't release Okpara, K.O Mbadiwe, RFK and co either.

Ojukwu like many young officers from the South admired Awo but in the military you obey your C.O. and Ironsi was in charge
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Ive been saying it over and over. Ojukwu AGREED and was in total support. Ironsi was not a good politician. He was scared to release Awo so as not to offend the north because their most important leaders had been eliminated in a coup designed to install Awo. I've read accounts of how there were attempts to murder Awo in prison. He didn't release Okpara, K.O Mbadiwe, RFK and co either
Then we are all saying the same thing. let me break it down for you in summary:
You agreed Gowon gave the order for Awo to be released from prison; Yes or No?
You agreed that Ojukwu knew of the order and he was in support of the release of Awo; Yes or No?


If your answer to both statement above is a Yes, then we are all saying the same thing.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by 0monnak0da: 8:27pm On Nov 21, 2019
joeyfire:
Ive been saying it over and over. Ojukwu AGREED and was in total support. Ironsi was not a good politician. He was scared to release Awo so as not to offend the north because their most important leaders had been eliminated in a coup designed to install Awo. I've read accounts of how there were attempts to murder Awo in prison. He didn't release Okpara, K.O Mbadiwe, RFK and co eithe
Please clarify the emboldened
,WHO did not release
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by Tranquillity360: 8:27pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
They fought you because you fore-bearers through Azikwe first made sure secession is not included in the constitution.

Azikwe also tried stopping the North from seceding. Do you know the North echoed the thought of seceding before? Zik had to type a lengthy statement to convince the North never to secede.

Azikwe also colluded with the FG and eastern region government to jail Adaka-Boro for treason when he tried secession of the Niger Delta.

Your military boys went along to kill the leaders of other region excepts theirs and they even had the audacity to mock other regions with the dead body of their leader.

For all this great sin you committed against Nigeria then, they will NEVER allow you to leave. The Biafran war is the payment for everything your fore-bearers did to Nigeria and they settled the scores with that war.

Now in 2019, anybody that stop you from leaving the country to get your Biafra is an idiot.
which means your yorobass are idiots?

We have seen how you people reach anytime issue of Biafra rises.


We also see how you guys rejoice when the nigeria army are killing unarmed ipob demonstrating because they want to leave you guys.
What does that says about you guys.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:32pm On Nov 21, 2019
Tranquillity360:
which means your yorobass are idiots?

We have seen have you people reach anytime issue of Biafra rises.


[b]We also see how you guys rejoice when the nigeria army are killing unarmed ipob [/b]demonstrating because they want to leave you guys.
What does that says about you guys.
Why won't be rejoice when the uncultured albino fugitive Kanu was all around radio Biafra churning out hate speeches against the Yorubas.

He told his disciples to kill any oyoroba bastard they see, he told his people never to attend any Yoruba churches, he keep churning out hate speeches upon hate speeches against the Yorubas and you think we will not be happy if the IPOBs are beaten blue and black by the military.

The main issue is that when your government in the SE (Governors, representatives, leaders, Ohanezes) start clamoring for Biafra as a whole, then anybody that tries to stop you from getting Biafra is an idiot.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by joeyfire(m): 8:36pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
Please clarify the emboldened
,WHO did not release
Ironsi didn't release them
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by richie240: 8:41pm On Nov 21, 2019
LegendHero:
You guys first denied the photos!
Then you denied a printout of the New York Times 1966 edition!
Now you are still denying a video proof?


Nnamdi Kanu understood you guys more than I do, infact I just see the reason why almost 70% of a tribe believed Buhari is Jubrin from Sudan.
U've not seen/heard anything!
One will still tell u d video was 'photoshopped'.
They choose what to believe/discard irrespective of d facts.
Re: Youtube Video That Showed Gowon Released Chief. Awolowo From Prison In 1966 by LegendHero(op): 8:45pm On Nov 21, 2019
richie240:
U've not seen/heard anything!
One will still tell u d video was 'photoshopped'.
They choose what to believe/discard irrespective of d facts.
Lol. Nawa o
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