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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 12:16pm On Nov 21, 2019
Wallade:


My sentiments exactly, you are one of those people talking university autonomy in the case of remuneration process without a proper understanding of university autonomy as provided by the law.

You have the time to type long epistle and when your level of information is queried, you find a convenient excuse of your employer's time and being busy.

Your type of lecturers are the ones we are trying to retire from the industry: the type of lecturers that would rather have students go searching, reading and worrying without giving directions and teaching. You just come to the class and lounge, when questioned you rather find the convenient excuse that students should go research.
You are rude and unruly/
I am not a lecturer and have no idea why you would make such a foolish assumption
I cannot respond to every jobless ignoramus who trolls me and that response was exactly what you deserved..I can see you were deeply wounded by that . Sorry Life is tough
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Wallade(m): 12:26pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:

You are rude and unruly/
I am not a lecturer and have no idea why you would make such a foolish assumption
I cannot respond to every jobless ignoramus who trolls me and that response was exactly what you deserved..I can see you were deeply wounded by that . Sorry Life is tough

Mr busy employee, you shouldn't be angry. I only wanted to see your understanding of University Autonomy as granted by the law that you so much emphasised.

Your response was rather insults and attitude. I understand your frustration since you concluded that your life is tough.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by bluefilm: 12:29pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:

lol
Guy I am not even in Nigeria .
I am abroad in Togo grin

I am not opposed to the change. I do not support it either
What I have heard is the government's side and ASUU's side
Knowing Nigeria I can predict this will lead to another round of strikes that affect poor people

I am more interested in due process and rule of law.
I am not one of those who believes that a "good objective" is what pursuing by any means.
Universities are key to national development and this is an avoidable crisis
What happens in civilized places is public debate and compromise
If the government is smart then that way they can win the argument in the court of public opinion
Not everything needs aggression/ There is still space for a Win-win
You need to learn not to personalize things

Audio Togo!

You better go and tell all your fellow cold room specialists to quickly go and enrol into the IPPIS.

Nonsense. sad

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Wallade(m): 12:38pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:

lol
Guy I am not even in Nigeria .
I am abroad in Togo grin

I am not opposed to the change. I do not support it either
What I have heard is the government's side and ASUU's side
Knowing Nigeria I can predict this will lead to another round of strikes that affect poor people

I am more interested in due process and rule of law.
I am not one of those who believes that a "good objective" is what pursuing by any means.
Universities are key to national development and this is an avoidable crisis
What happens in civilized places is public debate and compromise
If the government is smart then that way they can win the argument in the court of public opinion
Not everything needs aggression/ There is still space for a Win-win
You need to learn not to personalize things

You are the one personalising issues and to think you are in Togo, as claimed by you, makes your u position on this subject even laughable.

Let me make it simple for you since you are so busy working for your employer:

Does your employer go to the court of public opinion to increase or reduce your welfare package and remuneration?

Does your employer go to the court of public opinion when they ask you to sign in and out of work and give all the hours agreed in your terms of employment to the organisation you so much slave for?

Would you query your employer if you are asked to clock in and out to determine how many hours to pay you as per work time?

As usual, I am expecting your insults, abuse and attitude. I will be shocked if you react otherwise.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Champneys: 12:57pm On Nov 21, 2019
Always a dictator.

Any bastar....d who tells you he is a reformed democrat or not a dictator, slap the person into oblivion!
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by chukel(m): 1:11pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
Who are "you guys"
Young man calm down
We all want the best for our country
Is Nigeria the only country with universities
Yes we all want the best for our country and should debate it. No one knows everything. Even if we disagree we can still do so politely

I know for a fact that Buhari's children,Osinbajo's children and Tinubu's children do not attend Nigerian Universities.

My point is government should change the law if they want to do this government cannot be lawless

Government negotiated the current situation and if they want to change it they should negotiate
We all know if they try to force this through unilaterally what will happen but becayse their children are unaffected they do not care

On a different note I do not think the FG should fund the Universities directly rather we should look at debating a new model that ensures the Universities are funded from fees paid by students. Government could offer scholarships ,grants etc . Across the world different countries are debating how to fund university education and we must do the same too to ensure good quality over quantity

We cannot afford federally funded university education. Quality education is expensive and those who want it should pay for it
u guys are lecturers. I couldn't make any meaning out of what you typed. Are universities autonomous? If yes, then government should stop paying lecturers so they can generate their salaries. If government is paying their salaries, then government has the right on how it should be paid. You can't dictate to your employer on how you should be paid. You guys have not categorically said why you should not be on ippis. Saying the politicians' children don't attend Nigerian universities is absolute nonsense in this issue
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by bossvicks06: 1:19pm On Nov 21, 2019
This guy erh, u have plenty sense... succint aand exact
Those ASUU niggas are just set of mad lazy bones who dont care the least about the students they claim to teach
Most of my undergraduate leactueres, still use their undergraduate handouts to teach, after more than 15 yrs of graduation, they are the reason people have lost hope in the educational sector
sreamsense:
I beg, ASUU, go and sit down, do the right things and stop hiding under canopy of dictorship to attract sympathy from educated illiterates in the society. If you know he has bridged the constitution, drag him to court. Buhari, is somebody we need now to turn around the country for good, many people complaining and blaming buhari are either have skeleton in their cupboard, eating from proceed of corruption or born after morality was chased out of the country.

The more you hate Buhari, the more God is blessing him, you can ask all prophets of dooms and ipob members. God never granted their bad wishes against him, where are the ibops that asked for his head, called him Jubril and somebody that can never comeback from his illness?

Where are the likes of politicians that ganged up against him starting from Atiku, Saraki, Sheu sanni, Fayose and many others thinking they will disgrace him and stop him from coming back second time despite Dubai strategy ? They have been relegated politically. So, ASSU, please, park well, your sector is too corrupt, let Buhari, use APC broom to clean your dirty areas.

ASSU, should stop telling us big grammar that FG is not spending enough in education, ASSU should rather tell us and justify how well they are spending little government is allocating to them with the way they are just recruiting unemployable/yahoo-yahoo and skilless youths from our institutions through lazy and unskillful lecturers exchanging sex for grades


Why will government be wasting money in term of salary on professors and PhD holders who can not transfer useful skills they have acquired over the years during lectures on students that are expected to be leaders of tomorrow just because they are not talented in teaching and transferring of knowledge? Ordinary reaserches they are known for, many of them can't come out with any tangible research except copy and paste of student project and yet, they will blow grammar they are not getting sponsors from organizations as if organizations are working because of them to waste their money. Many organizations are ready to sponsor researches that are tangible and have future

There are many corruption cases going on in academic environment, government needs to take bold steps to sanitize the sector to revive education and makes it more functional. ASSU should allow Buhari to do needful!
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by BlackBovi: 1:26pm On Nov 21, 2019
opportunes:
The Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) has described alleged disobedience of President Muhammadu Buhari -led administration to laws of the land as the greatest corruption. The union spoke on the latest directive by the Federal Government that her officials will move to campuses to begin enrolment of university workers on the Integrated Personnel Payroll and Information System (IPPIS).

ASUU, while reacting through its .University of Ibadan Chairman, Professor Deji Omole, stated that the union cannot be harassed or intimidated by those who have penchant for breaking the law of the land. According to him, breaking existing laws with impunity is the greatest corruption. Omole added that it is worrisome that a government under democracy is afraid of negotiation and dialogue but prefers to use force.

The ASUU boss maintained that the union will use available democratic means to prevent the violation and desecration of the Nigerian University system which the children of the President and top government officials do not find worthy of attending. “The government’s pronouncement to forcefully enrol university workers is an act of violence against the university system. It is worrisome for a government under democratic dispensation to resort to force rather than dialogue.

“If not, why is the government afraid of negotiations. We are not perturbed by the directive. A government claiming to be fighting corruption should not break the law. “The university Autonomy Act is very clear on university administrators. There is no greater corruption than those breaking the law of the land. Breaking of existing laws. with impunity is the greatest corruption anywhere in the world; we refused to be harassed or intimidated. “We are not strangers in this country.

We are veritable stakeholders. We cannot be harassed. We have told them what to do. Let the government come back to negotiation’s table and let’s discuss the grey areas. Forceful enlistment will not solve the problem. “We are not disturbed but we are worried, government is getting dictatorial. A supposedly democratic government is getting dictatorial,” Omole said.

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/ippis-buhari-becoming-dictatorial-ASUU.html
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by pryme(m): 1:32pm On Nov 21, 2019
Jung:


Keypad warriors who know nothing about how a country works. Ignore them

Humor me, does ASUU fund itself?
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by pryme(m): 1:57pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:
Who are "you guys"
Young man calm down
We all want the best for our country
Is Nigeria the only country with universities
Yes we all want the best for our country and should debate it. No one knows everything. Even if we disagree we can still do so politely

I know for a fact that Buhari's children,Osinbajo's children and Tinubu's children do not attend Nigerian Universities.

My point is government should change the law if they want to do this government cannot be lawless

Government negotiated the current situation and if they want to change it they should negotiate
We all know if they try to force this through unilaterally what will happen but becayse their children are unaffected they do not care

On a different note I do not think the FG should fund the Universities directly rather we should look at debating a new model that ensures the Universities are funded from fees paid by students. Government could offer scholarships ,grants etc . Across the world different countries are debating how to fund university education and we must do the same too to ensure good quality over quantity

We cannot afford federally funded university education. Quality education is expensive and those who want it should pay for it

Thats why it will be suicidal to leave our students at the mercy of a group of corrupt individuals that will bleed them dry all because they are independent.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Enemyofpeace: 2:16pm On Nov 21, 2019
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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by castro(m): 2:25pm On Nov 21, 2019
It is quite obvious that many people spewing venom do not really understand the laws that govern the university system. ASUU during GEJ's era rejected it, they reached a compromise and GIFMIS software was created to handle staff salaries and the likes because as at that time provisions were not made for certain transactions made in the system to be handled. ASUU has challenged the proponents of IPPIS to show how the program works which they could not. ; Letts face it, ASUU is made of professionals and they know that the software is being marketed by individuals just like REMITA and some people would sit at their homes and be fatting fat for every transaction done on the software. There are laws existing before now that grant universities autonomy just like in other universities in the civilized world and this was affirmed by Chief Afe Babablola a renowned legal luminary. If he can advocate that and some of u are here running your mouths about personal matters between a student and lecturer which is outside the scope of what is being discussed, kindly keep mute and look at the critical issues on ground.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by masseratti: 3:08pm On Nov 21, 2019
24kmagic:
No be only dictatorial, na "Babcocktorial".

All these corrupt, unpatriotic professors.
I always say that most Nigerian professors are shameless, unpatriotic and without class.

They know what this IPPIS shit will do to their corrupt personalities that's why they are kicking against it.

Those men are too corrupt.


It is only a Nigerian professor that will collect millions from an illiterate politician and sell his conscience and the rights of many people during elections.

All those Resident Electoral Commissioners are just bunch of rubbish.
can t
You guys educate us on what the problem is with fg insisting they come on the scheme and why the lecturers don't want to.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by masseratti: 3:10pm On Nov 21, 2019
castro:
It is quite obvious that many people spewing venom do not really understand the laws that govern the university system. ASUU during GEJ's era rejected it, they reached a compromise and GIFMIS software was created to handle staff salaries and the likes because as at that time provisions were not made for certain transactions made in the system to be handled. ASUU has challenged the proponents of IPPIS to show how the program works which they could not. ; Letts face it, ASUU is made of professionals and they know that the software is being marketed by individuals just like REMITA and some people would sit at their homes and be fatting fat for every transaction done on the software. There are laws existing before now that grant universities autonomy just like in other universities in the civilized world and this was affirmed by Chief Afe Babablola a renowned legal luminary. If he can advocate that and some of u are here running your mouths about personal matters between a student and lecturer which is outside the scope of what is being discussed, kindly keep mute and look at the critical issues on ground.
thank you, at least you have an idea what they are talking about.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by donvicky2007: 5:13pm On Nov 21, 2019
Jung:


Could you possibly hit your head against something to juggle your thought and perhaps remind you that a lot of masters and PhD holders dont want to go into academics?

Just a light tap on the head. Or use a stick please.

And who told you that a lot of Masters and PhD holders don't want lecturing job, where are you statistics, until you provide statistics to drive home your point, you should shut your mouth please..
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by israelmao(m): 7:04pm On Nov 21, 2019
0monnak0da:

You are engaging in debate


I asked you a very simple question


They are Not employees of the FG
That is not true

Rather than argue educate yourselves and familiarize yourself with LAW

There were and are many entities which the FG owned and owns e.g NEPA, NNPC to name a few

Their employees are not employees of the federal government IN LAW

The FG Gazetted a Universities Autonomy Law.

Go and study it

I assume you attended university
So apply the skills you learnt there to arm yourself with facts before arguing blindly

Thanks for your enlightenment,although I know university autonomy law does exist but I'm yet to really make out time to study it to details to be candid.I have never been a party to injustice I am only angry about the lecturers' attitudes toward their original or lawful duties.Though according to law it is truly autonomous but in the eyes of those lawless people at the apex of government is it truly autonomous?Many court orders have been disregarded most especially under this current administration but one may say, deliberate disobedience to certain law doesn't mean that law is not in existence.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by fatiuabdul: 9:38pm On Nov 21, 2019
now is ASUU turn to pay for their misdeed.
ain't them the one that rigged bubu into power?
karma is a bitch!
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Jung(m): 10:30pm On Nov 21, 2019
musulumi:
It's you and your friend you quoted that should be disallowed from using keypads because it's obvious you don't understand a thing about writing.

Go to the comedy section and enjoy yourself, leave here for the intellects to interact peacefully.



I dont know. Pretty sure other your final year project (that's if you went to the university), you have never written anything intellectual in your life. Blatant ignoramus arguing about why ASUU is wrong without employing facts to back up your claim.

Being mawkish will not help you either. I'm looking across the room for intellectuals and you dont measure up.

It's very much like a jibe we used to throw in school....

When dem tell meat to stand up for soup, kpomo sef go raise hand.

That's you.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Jung(m): 10:34pm On Nov 21, 2019
donvicky2007:


And who told you that a lot of Masters and PhD holders don't want lecturing job, where are you statistics, until you provide statistics to drive home your point, you should shut your mouth please..

Lol do you know how many masters and PhDs are not worth the paper they are written on? Do you know how many masters graduates dont even have a good CGPA to proceed to a direct PhD, or those who finish PhDs and cant defend them?

You're only concerned with lecturers not teaching well and victimizing students. Being puerile won't let you see beyond your nose.

You have no argument please. Try front.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by donvicky2007: 11:19pm On Nov 21, 2019
Jung:


Lol do you know how many masters and PhDs are not worth the paper they are written on? Do you know how many masters graduates dont even have a good CGPA to proceed to a direct PhD, or those who finish PhDs and cant defend them?

You're only concerned with lecturers not teaching well and victimizing students. Being puerile won't let you see beyond your nose.

You have no argument please. Try front.

And what of those whose masters and PhDs worth every damn thing written on them, how many of them have been absolved into the system..The norm is that once you are the best graduating student in your department, the department tends to retain the student as graduate assistant but is very rare now.

Forgetting that someone who doesn't have a PhD grade can still do MPhil and such person can teach or lecture in polytechnics....

How can someone not defend his or her PhD, after going through pre and post data presentations in the department, Faculty defense, School of postgraduate defense and finally External Defense by an external examiner, then that person went to your useless school.

if your department frustrated you during your program, that doesn't mean other departments are like yours.

When you have statistics come let's argue.
For now your argument is baseless.


F**k off as you have nothing meaningful to say. However, you are just myopic and short sighted in your reasoning.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Jung(m): 6:33am On Nov 22, 2019
donvicky2007:


And what of those whose masters and PhDs worth every damn thing written on them, how many of them have been absolved into the system..The norm is that once you are the best graduating student in your department, the department tends to retain the student as graduate assistant but is very rare now.

Forgetting that someone who doesn't have a PhD grade can still do MPhil and such person can teach or lecture in polytechnics....

How can someone not defend his or her PhD, after going through pre and post data presentations in the department, Faculty defense, School of postgraduate defense and finally External Defense by an external examiner, then that person went to your useless school.

if your department frustrated you during your program, that doesn't mean other departments are like yours.

When you have statistics come let's argue.
For now your argument is baseless.


F**k off as you have nothing meaningful to say. However, you are just myopic and short sighted in your reasoning.


Sigh..

You cannot comprehend my words because you aren't there. You think the education half baked system refers to only undergraduates? Think again child.

You just rant for no just reason. Start and end statements erratically. I must say, your use of conjunctions leave a lot to be desired as well. I know I'm arguing with a young person. No need to waste my time trading words with you.

Thankfully, you dont know enough to make you wiser, and as such,, ignorance is a blessing for you.

Enjoy your day and stop all these puerile rants.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by donvicky2007: 8:33am On Nov 22, 2019
Jung:



Sigh..

You cannot comprehend my words because you aren't there. You think the education half baked system refers to only undergraduates? Think again child.

You just rant for no just reason. Start and end statements erratically. I must say, your use of conjunctions leave a lot to be desired as well. I know I'm arguing with a young person. No need to waste my time trading words with you.

Thankfully, you dont know enough to make you wiser, and as such,, ignorance is a blessing for you.

Enjoy your day and stop all these puerile rants.

Just look at kettle calling pot black. You have no sense of reasoning at all, ranting on social media like a mad dog.

You think everyone here is your mate, I don't blame transsion holdings that made you have access to substandard smartphone, if not, you will still be running around in your village naked.

Jung:


I dont know. Pretty sure other your final year project (that's if you went to the university), you have never written anything intellectual in your life. Blatant ignoramus arguing about why ASUU is wrong without employing facts to back up your claim.


Listen to yourself, You just sound like a rabble. You are cursing musulumi, but forgetting that you are a riff-raff.
Get out of here BUSH PIG.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by musulumi(m): 11:01am On Nov 22, 2019
Who is this one picking a war of words with, me? Man common grow some valid balls and behave. I don't argue with people of questionable home training like you, ok ?

Come back here to engage me when you are sensible.

End.
Jung:


I dont know. Pretty sure other your final year project (that's if you went to the university), you have never written anything intellectual in your life. Blatant ignoramus arguing about why ASUU is wrong without employing facts to back up your claim.

Being mawkish will not help you either. I'm looking across the room for intellectuals and you dont measure up.

It's very much like a jibe we used to throw in school....

When dem tell meat to stand up for soup, kpomo sef go raise hand.

That's you.

Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Jung(m): 11:46am On Nov 22, 2019
musulumi:
Who is this one picking a war of words with, me? Man common grow some valid balls and behave. I don't argue with people of questionable home training like you, ok ?

Come back here to engage me when you are sensible.

End.
God forbid.

I'll spend that time making your house rent money lmfao.

Enjoy your day fam.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by musulumi(m): 2:29pm On Nov 22, 2019
Me house rent.....oh right I know your type. So you pay house rent, sorry to come this low with you.
Jung:

God forbid.

I'll spend that time making your house rent money lmfao.

Enjoy your day fam.
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