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Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:24am On Dec 20, 2019
damtan:

Wise one, I ain't dumb.
All the other 6 best ahead of her also chose medicine as their choice of course?
Ofcourse, she chose the most competitive course and The most competitive Northern Nigeria university. If they can't admit more than 120 students, then 3 students per state is 36*3=118, apart from school of matric students, catchment area, ELDS, still she won't be admitted
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by femi4: 9:24am On Dec 20, 2019
chewwie:
Let me get this straight. So if a boy or girl from Borno or Yobe scores 201 as the highest in the state, he or she will get into MBBS ahead of a girl who scored 300+ because of quota, diversity and inclusiveness? What baloney! Total malarkey! Where is the reward for her hard work? She would have easily sat for her WASSCE, cheated, made 6 credits, and enter road forking all the boys in Niger state, get pregnant abort, spread HIV, and constitute nuisance, but no, she decided to work hard.
The incompetence in our educational system is grossly alarming!
Its a shame, that's what our educational system has turned into
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by johnpablo541(m): 9:25am On Dec 20, 2019
MoIbrahim:
From what you wrote, I can tell you for free the ethnic group that you belong to. That is in case, your parents have not told you before.

One can even guess the shape of your head too grin


You guessed wrong. I am Urhobo from delta state. Did what i write offend you?
One more question, why do all the states in the North fall under Educationally less developed states ? I mean all the Northern states.
And your region has been in power for 9 regimes Calls for serious concern.


I think it should be written like this
LIST OF EDUCATIONALLY LESS DEVELOPED STATES
1. Bayelsa state
2. Ebonyi State
3. Cross-rivers State
4. Rivers State
5. All states in all the geopolitical zones in Northern Nigeria

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Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by IamMichaels: 9:25am On Dec 20, 2019
MoIbrahim:
Honestly *the person who wrote this piece “Injustice to one is injustice to all” is completely ignorant of the process of admission in Ahmadu Bello University Zaria,*

For those of us that wrote Jamb 3 times passed all and failed to secure admission whom also are from the catchment area of the University felt the same way but later got to understand the process & how it works!

There are some unique facts about ABU that we must appreciate which includes among so many others; ABU is the most cosmopolitan University in the whole of Africa not even Nigeria �� it’s no news that ABU Zr has students from each and every of the 774 local governments in �� which makes it a mini ��.

When it comes to teaching staff, ABU is the only record holder of having atleast 1 senior staff from each and every of the 36 states in Nigeria and it has remained so till date. So in essence not even the University of Abuja that is in the heart of Nigeria can boast of having students from all the 774 local governments or a staff from each of the 36 states in the Country. Then we should be proud of ABU Zr.

I can personally attest to the fact that in each and every Departmental admission guideline clearly spells out three criteria’s and is religiously adhered to which includes: 1. Merrit list 45% of the total students admitted to the dept (Atleast 2 to 3 students with the highest score from each state). 2. Catchment area list 35% (like any other university in Nigeria ABU considers students from its selected States as it catchment area). & 3. Less Educationally developed states list 20% (in other to give candidates in some selected states that are not as educationally developed as the others a chance to be in ABU as they are at a disadvantage and cannot stand their colleagues from the opposite side) which makes 100% for each department and in doing this no state is left out. Please tell me which other University in Nigeria can say same of their institution? I’ll tell U the answer for free “NONE”.

As regards the case of one *Goodness Thomas, she would have made it for the MBBS Merit list from her state but unfortunately she was number 7 on the list in terms of jamb score from Niger state* and only the first two were picked as it is in d case with all other 36 states and the FCT, she also wouldn’t have made it for the 2nd & 3rd criteria for admission as the number from the Medical and Dental Board limits ABU MBBS to only 120students per session so please do the maths how would U have admitted Goodness into MBBS and justify it even if U are on the admissions committee?

It is also important that I call the attention of the writer of this mischievous piece, that Goodness Thomas was quick to change her 1st choice to ‘Anatomy’ from MBBS seeing she didn’t make the 1st list and she was admitted in the 2nd list of admission which she accepted gladly and quickly, so why are people been mischievous and sharing very wrong information on social media?

I have seen the list of about 25 candidates this year alone from Kwara, Benue and Kogi states who scored above 300 and didn’t make the list for MBBS but unfortunately their representatives don’t have social media handles to speak out on their behalf.

This year alone ABU received more than 40,000 qualified candidates which is the largest number of applicants for any university in Nigeria and Jamb gave ABU the clearance to take in 11,000 candidates which is also the highest number any university is taking in this year, so who will speak for the over 29,000 qualified candidates? Even ASUU is crying that accademic staff are over stretched due to the number of lecturer to student at the moment.

As it stands, ABU is among the 1st generation of universities in Nigeria and there has been plans from the management under the leadership of Prof. Ibrahim Garba with support from the Nigerian Universities Commission (NUC) and the Ministry of Education for ABU Zr to Migrate into a fully pledged Post-Graduate University and that can only happen if the number of undergraduates intake is cut by more than half the number its currently taking in.

So please let’s call all mischief makers to order and if anyone has any issue on admission of a candidate to write to the University rather than embarking on campaign of calmuny on social media to dent the reputation of a University we all hold Dear.

Abubakar A Rafindadi.


Total rubbish, Total nonsense... Why won't a school appreciate this level of hardwork from a student. Please let the truth be told... Everything na man know man
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:26am On Dec 20, 2019
Bari22:
I'm coming

Coming to where?

Oga please stay on ur lane.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:28am On Dec 20, 2019
ursamajor:

Are you also so dumb that you cannot understand that no all of them could have chosen medicine and ABU
It's said all of them chose ABU, and I'm sure at least 4 of them would have choose MBBS. Meanwhile, the OP said it's 3 per state multiple 3 * 36 state =118 students, remember they can't admit more than 120. And also if you know there is school of Matric students, who are to be admitted, there is ELDS, There is catchment area and international students
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:29am On Dec 20, 2019
Bedwyr:


It is, and I speak as a medical doctor.
I'm also a medical student. Prove me wrong
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by unmask: 9:33am On Dec 20, 2019
9gerian:
There are usually two explanations for such anomalies; one is the real reason for the action, the other is what the public gets told is the reason.

Quota system is the reason nothing works in Nigeria. The educational system is consistently watered down to fit / reward the lifestyle of the lazy and uninterested people mostly from Northern Nigeria, while the deserving ones are being short changed and frustrated. Yet, we expect improvements in the country. This is the same scenario across all sectors of the Nigerian economy.

The funny thing is that a level playing field devoid of or with very minor quota system would have helped the disadvantaged regions to improve and catch up, instead of the slowing down of every other region to make the disadvantaged regions look not too far left behind. Now we have a nation that is the laughing stock of others that were at par with it a few decades ago.

The question is will this girl and others constantly being deprived like her not be better admitted based on merit than those ones with 180 and even less JAMB score?

This is why when matters of development are being discussed, there is a wide gap in the understanding across the North and South of Nigeria.

Nigeria should have remained with the regional / parliamentary system of government so that regions develop at their own paces.

Sighs! angry


The girl scored 302 not 350

If we probably check the list of admitted students to that course they probably have 300 or more
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by teepain: 9:33am On Dec 20, 2019
Obviously AASU, has never deemed it fit to fight against quota system and other quotas used for admissions.

The members of AASU benefit from the fluid interpretation that comes with this quota system. You have the VC's list and some other bullshits.

Yet, they have the temerity to drag the Nigerian masses into their fight with FG over IPPIS.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by deboakins(m): 9:34am On Dec 20, 2019
This is a good riddance to bad rubish, how can she not be addmmited into her own course of choice just because of on stupid quota system you're claiming to be operating in your school? Does this really make sense at all, so, any candidates who scored far below her from another state will be allowed and addmmited. this is nothing but a pure madness. When is merits and performances going to be rewarded in this country called nigeria? that is the more reason why we are not moving forward as a nation.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:34am On Dec 20, 2019
nengibo:

Yoruba Muslim, how dies that justify the evil committed by Islamic terrorists
If they are of Islam, why will they kill any Muslim, they kill more Muslims And bomb more mosques. So they are against Islam, you google is your friend, or go to the north to find out
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by bnovative(m): 9:34am On Dec 20, 2019
Snowale:
Ofcourse, she chose the most competitive course and The most competitive Northern Nigeria university. If they can't admit more than 120 students, then 3 students per state is 36*3=118, apart from school of matric students, catchment area, ELDS, still she won't be admitted
You can only speculate, let ABU respond with the list of admitted students to mbbs with details of state of origin and scores.
How many northern states students study medicine in Nigeria in year? Jamb could be a guide here.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 20, 2019
Snowale:
I'm also a medical student. Prove me wrong

Little bit of advice, don't look down on the anatomists, physiologists, nurses, etc.

They are the folks that would help you become a better doctor.

And they are not duller than you, if you must know.

If you go through life thinking you are better than others because you read medicine, think again. I know many people who were more intelligent than I am who did not read medicne.

Good morning. An anatomist, again, is not a dull person because he or she is reading anatomy.

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Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by unmask: 9:39am On Dec 20, 2019
ObongNizz:
The foolish quota system that has given us a dullard like Buhari as president is what is at play here. The quota system will be the death of this nonsense country. Whoever will be refusing a score of 302 admission and give the same admission to one mugu that scored 181 is an educated fool. That's why we have all these foolish northerners in all the best job positions.
Even common entrance will tell you that pass mark for Sokoto is 2. Is that not madness?!
How can someone just arbitrarily decide that only 2 students be admitted from Niger state?
Are you people well at all?
I nor blame una.
Na the yeye parents wey allow their genius pikin to apply to an Almajiri university that will victimize the girl that I blame.
Better pikin, go and write SAT and Cambridge and leave their shithole school for them.
You deserve to study where intelligence is celebrated.
Let the abokis and mallams go and die with their stupid quota system.
Nonsense Buhari, Northerners and APC.
is there proof that they admitted anyone with 180?

It could also be the person with 180 from a Southern state that got admission if it did happen.

Finally it is MBBS.....you have to be extremely sound to get into one of the top schools for that course.....and her 302 might just be a 300 overall when the list of qualified applicants are arranged
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by teepain: 9:40am On Dec 20, 2019
femi4:
Its a shame, that's what our educational system has turned into

Our educational system didn't just into this rubbish, it has always been like that.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by planetzone10: 9:42am On Dec 20, 2019
When Nigerian politicians wants to justify illegality with their speech, they muddle up facts and fictions together, knowing fully well that only few would bother to sift through the two. Whoever this guy is I don't know, but he'll make a good Nigerian politician. He is good at spewing out jargons and thrash thoroughly mixed together and making look like he's talking sensibly. He said and I quote "
As regards the case of one Goodness Thomas, she would have made it for the MBBS Merit list from her state but unfortunately she was number 7 on the list in terms of jamb score from Niger state* and only the first two were picked as it is in d case with all other 36 states and the FCT, she also wouldn’t have made it for the 2nd & 3rd criteria for admission as the number from the Medical and Dental Board limits ABU MBBS to only 120students per session so please do the maths how would U have admitted Goodness into MBBS and justify it even if U are on the admissions committee" the question I want to ask this guy is: did everybody who had very high score in jamb in each state apply to ABU as this statement he made which I quoted above suggests? No matter how cosmopolitan ABU is, most first generation federal universities are just as much cosmopolitan. I finished from University of Ibadan, and one of the best young lecturer in my department(mathematics) at that time was from Kano state and other departments had lecturers from across the country too. So let's call a spade exactly what it is, a girl scored above three hundred and we have someone here telling us why not admitting her to the faculty of medicine in ABU is justified, what a load of bullshit! there is no justification for turning down such a brilliant young mind. I wish that girl had applied to university of Ibadan instead of ABU, then she would have been able to realize her dreams.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Iseddy: 9:44am On Dec 20, 2019
Pes13:
I laughed when I saw that news.

302/400 and he was shouting foul play. Maybe he thought Mbbs is equally sorted after like Education Management.

I am a medical student in UI, UI doesn't have catchment area, 100% admission slot is by merit.

However, there are almost 400 candidates that score 300+ in utme every year, and the carrying capacity for Mbbs in UI is just 180.

That means, several candidates with 320+ won't end up getting Mbbs in the end, by the time aggregate score is determined.

There is no foul play in this matter, only ignorant people who is not in the system will type such gibberish.
please increase the volume for some people vomiting nonsense to hear
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by damtan(m): 9:48am On Dec 20, 2019
Snowale:
Ofcourse, she chose the most competitive course and The most competitive Northern Nigeria university. If they can't admit more than 120 students, then 3 students per state is 36*3=118, apart from school of matric students, catchment area, ELDS, still she won't be admitted
Yea, I understand

If she had chosen south western university, she won't be having this issue. The competition may be stiff but yet, she might just make it
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by unmask: 9:49am On Dec 20, 2019
stonemasonn:
And you're very sure all 120 successful candidates at ABU scored 300+
are you sure they didn't?
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Ijawwomaninoyo: 9:49am On Dec 20, 2019
traihit:



This is not even about religion and tribalism. That's too petty. But by supporting what happened in that school, you've supported the assassination of hardwork, diligence and meritocracy and thus, you are not qualified at all to complain about the failure in Nigeria's system anymore.

Is it even an official write up from ABU?
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:50am On Dec 20, 2019
callthefred:


Hating on you? It's obvious you'll do worse if you're in position of authority. You already have Boko Haram and banditry...your people are even now recruited for highway robbery and kidnapping in the South. Continue in your self destruction..
A word is enough for the wise, most people doesn't know why things are not working well for them, now you know, I hope you will make changes
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by bnovative(m): 9:52am On Dec 20, 2019
unmask:
The girl scored 302 not 350

If we probably check the list of admitted students to that course they probably have 300 or more

300 or more from her state?
You really believe every state in Nigeria had their ward doing mbbs in Abu?
For me the proper thing to do is for ABU to publish the names of students who applied for mbbs, their state and scores. Anything less is a sham
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by KayyDee: 9:53am On Dec 20, 2019
Although ABU seem to have their admission policy already spelt out b4 this young girl's unfortunate misadventure, This is still not right in the 21st century where merit reigns supreme in most counties of the world.

In fact what their admission policy entails is that: someone from Zamfara who only scored 230 or lower, could be admitted to study medicine in ABU if he's ranked 1st or 2nd in his state's Jamb result (for that particular course/department). He ends up being a Med Doctor. While someone from e.g. Ekiti who scored 320 is denied because he's 4th in his own state.
So, if this is what ABU calls merit, then that is indeed the poorest form of merit that i have ever seen.

This is even despite the fact that they have reserved another 20% for educationally less developed states (whom we all know that are almost all from the Northern region)


While ABU's intentions might not necessarily be bad (as they may truly be pursuing a truly altruistic agenda, like having a truly cosmopolitan school), it still makes no sense in this modern time.
_______ _______ _______ _______ _______

In fact, admission to higher institutions should be at least 90% based on pure merit, as it's done in most Developed world.

Except they want to tell us that this is to accommodate most Core Northern states, who might not be able to get such competitive scores to be in some top departments.
This is because, i believe that without this their admission policy, most southern states will still make it in, by their own individual merits.


--Shallom--
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by unmask: 9:54am On Dec 20, 2019
damtan:


Can you please tell us your utme aggregate? As much as I knw, 302 is more that enough for medicine
the question is for which schools? State universities? Or the top federal universities?
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:55am On Dec 20, 2019
femi4:
Ode! Bring out the list of first six candidates that scored over 302.
You are just low in quality up there
Seems you know nothing about how competitive MBBS is. I have seen people with better score, who were not admitted. 3 aspirant per state*37 states=121, they can't admit more than 120, and she is the 7th best, apart from that they have school of matric graduands who should be admitted, there is ELDS and catchment areas, and international students
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by donprinyo(m): 9:55am On Dec 20, 2019
IAmStrange:
And some people were attributing it to Islam, calling it Islamic agenda.

Many began to spite the school, calling it all sorts of derogatory names, with Islam in the picture.

WaLlohi, the minds of many of these people are dark and evil, the Muslims have just become too weak to expose them.

Indeed, it's the truth what Allaah said:

“Never will the Jews nor the Christians be
pleased with you (O Muhammad) till you follow their religion"

It's Islamophobia that will kill some people.

Did a story not come up one time of Covenant university rejecting admission to one Muslim guy in a similar fashion like this?

Did anyone shout Christianization?

When a Muslim does something, they attribute it to Islam. If it's the other way round, you won't hear such a thing coming from us.

Why are you all so deeply obsessed with Islam if you do not fear for its greatness and try to talk it down or criticize it at any given chance?

The reality is that many of these people are just insincere, sick-minded hypocrites!

Imes is coming! Imes is coming! The world should prepare. angry

The reality of your true selves, how evil your hearts are actually and how foolish your arguments and philosophies are will soon be exposed to the world when Imes comes.

All of you should continue! angry Imes will be making you all famous; yes, the whole will know you all for your evil and hypocritical ways.

By the time Imes will come, humiliation will be your companion. humiliation will be your nick names. You will all wine and dine with humiliation unless you repent and turn towards truth.

When Imes comes, it will be the end of your era and the beginning of a new one.

When Imes comes, it will be game over for many of you hypocritical lots

Imes is coming, You should all get prepared! angry

And you are free to wail and attack me on mention. grin That's your way and it will only make your humiliation more interesting when Imes eventually shows up. grin

Imes, we await your coming grin cheesy
As long as ur people kills and u support it, i will forever condemn ur actions
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by MasterKernel: 9:56am On Dec 20, 2019
Snowale:
You are a ludicrous, swashbuckler and harebrained individual who is like to sting up himself due to mental instability and use of madjoun.

What is wrong about a federal university admitting 3 per state, ELDS qualified, Merit and catchment area, then screen 120 best out of them. You need to start thinking with your brain, not the tip of your penis


Are you naturally this dumb or do you have to put in effort, eeeh!?
If I wanted to kill myself, I’d climb up your ego, and jump to your IQ.

You've replaced excellency for quota system, you can't see anything wrong about that. After all, no candidate from your unlettered clan can match her.
Re: ABU Didn't Admit Goodness Thomas Into MBBS Cos In Niger Alone She Ranked No. 7 by Nobody: 9:56am On Dec 20, 2019
Perkins2018:


How did you know the idiot is Yoruba when there are lots of igbos with Yoruba monikers on this forum? You see how retarded you are?
I know him personally, so you can go hang yourself with the ropes of your frustrations and hatred for yoruba's

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