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Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by contumely2: 6:53pm On Dec 19, 2019
In his miseducations such as Chosen, Choosing a girl and No Green light No approach, UBUNJA maintains that you should allow a girl choose you first.
He opines that you should only approach a girl whose green lights you have seen.

He posits that being chosen reduces stress, risk of rejection etc for the guy.
According to him, a chosen guy already satisfies all requirements and need not do anything further to impress the girl.

SOME of the above postulations are true but admit of many limitations.
1. You may never have the opportunity to see a woman's green light. An example are girls you are meeting for the first time on the streets, buses, malls etc.

You may need to approach these girls first. Some of them may later grow to be smitten by you and subsequently chase you. At this stage, you are now the prize. Or loosely, you are now chosen.

2. Some green lights are so unclear that you can only see them after an approach has been made. This is prevalent because of our conservative culture here where men are required to make the move or shoot shots first.

3. Waiting to be chosen or for green lights limits your chances of experiencing abundance with girls. Only when you approach many will you have abundance and also increase your chances of being chosen by one of the many girls.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by ubunja(m): 8:24pm On Dec 19, 2019
Maximum respect for taking out time to put your opinion in a clear and calm manner.

This is the post in question for anyone who needs to know: https://www.nairaland.com/5520205/ubunjas-miseducation-chosen

Let's get to it:
contumely2:

In his miseducations such as Chosen, Choosing a girl and No Green light No approach, UBUNJA maintains that you should allow a girl choose you first.
He opines that you should only approach a girl whose green lights you have seen.

He posits that being chosen reduces stress, risk of rejection etc for the guy.
According to him, a chosen guy already satisfies all requirements and need not do anything further to impress the girl.

SOME of the above postulations are true but admit of many limitations.
1. You may never have the opportunity to see a woman's green light. An example are girls you are meeting for the first time on the streets, buses, malls etc.

You may need to approach these girls first. Some of them may later grow to be smitten by you and subsequently chase you. At this stage, you are now the prize. Or loosely, you are now chosen.

The issue I see here is that you don't have a Clear understanding of what a Green Light is.

The most common Green Light is when a girl keeps looking your way for no apparent reason. Over and over. And sometimes you catch her looking at you. Or when you look at her, her face has just turned away to escape your look.

That's a green light.

Second is a smile that again comes from nowhere. But is so subtle that sometimes you're not sure if it was a smile or if you're sure it was a smile you think that maybe it wasn't meant for you. Ever seen a girl smile at you and you look behind you thinking that maybe she's smiling at someone behind you, cause for sure you don't know that girl and you see no reason why she should be smiling at you? Yeah that kind of smile. It's a green light.

Now, don't tell me you can never have the opportunity to see these things.

And of course you've to take context in account.

In any case, a future writeup will deal with the issue of green lights in depth. Their history, type and degrees of seriousness.


contumely2:


2. Some green lights are so unclear that you can only see them after an approach has been made. This is prevalent because of our conservative culture here where men are required to make the move or shoot shots first.

No, you don't have to approach a girl first to see a green light. A green light is not a kiss or sex.

But Yep, Green Lights by nature are NEVER 100% clear. You got that right. And why are they never 100% conclusive?

Its a defense strategy for the woman.

E.g A girl comes up to you at work to admire your shirt and touches the fabric as if to feel the quality. THAT'S A GREEN LIGHT. That touch/contact is a green light. But so you don't call her a ho, the touch comes in disguise of checking out your shirt quality. If the girl just straight-up touched you, you'll freak out. So she hides the touch behind a legitimate and real reason: to feel your shirt quality. That way, if you're clever you catch the message. If you're slow it's an opportunity lost.

Same thing when a woman calls you to "fix her TV". She wants you in her house. The TV is just a cover. If you're slow in Game, you'll fix her TV and go. But a Player reads between the lines and knows what's up.

Why does she need a real, concrete reason for you to be in her house? So if someone comes unexpectedly, she has a real, concrete reason for your presence in her house. So she's protecting her reputation.

Now, this is why Green Lights are never 100% clear. It's a defense mechanism. Just in case....

As a player you must add two or more hints to make sure you're being given a green light or not.

Eg. She asked you to her house to fix her TV? Then when you got there she changes into revealing clothes saying "it's hot", then she keeps commenting on your biceps, and keeps asking you why she never seen you with a girl? All these hints added together = a Green Light. It confirms everything beyond doubt.


So what are we saying? Green Lights are never conclusive as a defense mechanism for a woman. And most cases you must add two or more hints to judge beyond doubt its a Green Light you're being given. But at times you've to run with a single hint. Cause sometimes that one hint will be super bright.

contumely2:

3. Waiting to be chosen or for green lights limits your chances of experiencing abundance with girls. Only when you approach many will you have abundance and also increase your chances of being chosen by one of the many girls.

What's the point of claiming abundance when out of the 50 girls you'll blindly approach a week only 3 will respond positively? And how many girls do you really need??

On an average day I personally get minimum 2 women that give me "the look" that says "I find you likeable". Now, if I acted on these daily, already I would be dealing with an abundance of women every week.


Problem is that guys don't know what to look for that tells them girls like them.

And they fear if they wait for the women to choose them, they might wait for ever. But that's not true. Women are always choosing men cause women don't all like the same type of man physically.

Also guys fear waiting to be chosen means they'll be chosen by low quality Women. That's true. And there are two solutions to this: 1. Attack and devour these low quality women and use them as practise and to grow your self esteem. 2. Work on upgrading yourself. Something as simple as new clothes and hitting the gym elevates your Sexual Market Value and catches the eye of higher quality women....

Let me stop here for now.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by kazyhm(m): 9:04pm On Dec 19, 2019
That post was/is the best of all posts.....only if you don't understand the message there in.......getting remix like Lil Wayne lollipop isn't a bad idea after all

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by Nobody: 9:41pm On Dec 19, 2019
kazyhm:
That post was/is the best of all posts.....only if you don't understand the message there in.......getting remix like Lil Wayne lollipop isn't a bad idea after all
i prefer ubunja "nice guys are the sluts...." thread ,to me thats the overall best of all his miseducations
Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by kazyhm(m): 9:54pm On Dec 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
i prefer ubunja "nice guys are the sluts...." thread ,to me thats the overall best of all his miseducations


I like that too but that chosen ehn......is symbolic.


Not everyone understand the message in that post.....that's why its bothering people psychologically...hence all different versions of interpretations......it stand for self respect with standards of the highest order without ego......

The Disadvantage of the position of men at the threshold of sexual and romantic relationship

Also telling you to pay attention to detail........and have a discerning spirit........


And most important of all let the women/ladies should show enough commitment and work to deserve the relationship because they stand to gain the most......as a man in a relationship, if you not spending you're losing weight

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by jackals(f): 5:13am On Dec 20, 2019
I think some people still don't understand the " chosen miseducation" . The post was a blessing to men and women (generally). Women learnt something extraordinary in that Post. Now I understand what it takes to be that trophy wife I've ever wanted to be to him. It's all about" did he chose me"? did he want me so crazily to ignore everythin so that only me will matters to him?. I've never agree with ubunja; but chosen is one write-up I've only ever related with. 100%, it's the truth.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by ubunja(m): 6:10am On Dec 20, 2019
jackals:
I think some people still don't understand the " chosen miseducation" . The post was a blessing to men and women (generally). Women learnt something extraordinary in that Post. Now I understand what it takes to be that trophy wife I've ever wanted to be to him. It's all about" did he chose me"? did he want me so crazily to ignore everythin so that only me will matters to him?. I've never agree with ubunja; but chosen is one write-up I've only ever related with. 100%, it's the truth.
kazyhm has said it best, that post "stands for self respect with standards of the highest order without ego".

Its the Ego of these guys that is preventing them from taking in the truth. The Hunter in them is too strong after a lifetime of action. It will take time for these guys to shed that mentality and evolve. Some will never evolve and will chase and chase till they die. When they could easily just be still and let women do the chasing. Its sad.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by cerpvad(m): 8:24am On Dec 20, 2019
Good one bruh. Yours is another constructive review of the ubunja 's CHOSEN sermon which most NL guys purportedly hold in high esteem.

I have said it before that the CHOSEN theory is born out of FEAR OF REJECTION by women. It is an opium to fight Obsession with women. This is because it is put out there to debar guys from eternal girls chasing. The objective is cool enough, though.

But let ubunja and his disciples know that the CHOSEN theory is not totally relevant at the APPROACH STAGE which is the first point of entry to a girl's life. At the APPROACH stage, waiting for green light before talking to a girl is a too shallow approach which limits your chances and choices. Many a girl does not know if they like a guy or not until the guy makes his first impression and starts talking to them. It is until then they start to realize the guy posseses the specs they want.

I will keep emphasising it that real and confident guys (I mean ATTRACTIVE GUYS), do not find the CHOSEN theory relevant and its offshoot,the NO GREEN LIGHT NO APPROACH theory does not hold water.

As an attractive guy, you are already a CHOSEN potential for girls, so you are not bothered by the fear of being rejected or not chosen. You know that your weapons of attraction never fails. Even if it fails you have a back up with ABUNDANCE MENTALITY, meaning you don't care if a girl choses you or not because there are thousands of other beautiful girls out there who will worship the ground under your feet.
contumely2:

In his miseducations such as Chosen, Choosing a girl and No Green light No approach, UBUNJA maintains that you should allow a girl choose you first.
He opines that you should only approach a girl whose green lights you have seen.

He posits that being chosen reduces stress, risk of rejection etc for the guy.
According to him, a chosen guy already satisfies all requirements and need not do anything further to impress the girl.

SOME of the above postulations are true but admit of many limitations.
1. You may never have the opportunity to see a woman's green light. An example are girls you are meeting for the first time on the streets, buses, malls etc.

You may need to approach these girls first. Some of them may later grow to be smitten by you and subsequently chase you. At this stage, you are now the prize. Or loosely, you are now chosen.

2. Some green lights are so unclear that you can only see them after an approach has been made. This is prevalent because of our conservative culture here where men are required to make the move or shoot shots first.

3. Waiting to be chosen or for green lights limits your chances of experiencing abundance with girls. Only when you approach many will you have abundance and also increase your chances of being chosen by one of the many girls.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by ubunja(m): 1:27pm On Dec 20, 2019
cerpvad:
Good one bruh. Yours is another constructive review of the ubunja 's CHOSEN sermon which most NL guys purportedly hold in high esteem.

I have said it before that the CHOSEN theory is born out of FEAR OF REJECTION by women. It is an opium to fight Obsession with women. This is because it is put out there to debar guys from eternal girls chasing. The objective is cool enough, though.

But let ubunja and his disciples know that the CHOSEN theory is not totally relevant at the APPROACH STAGE which is the first point of entry to a girl's life. At the APPROACH stage, waiting for green light before talking to a girl is a too shallow approach which limits your chances and choices. Many a girl does not know if they like a guy or not until the guy makes his first impression and starts talking to them. It is until then they start to realize the guy posseses the specs they want.

I will keep emphasising it that real and confident guys (I mean ATTRACTIVE GUYS), do not find the CHOSEN theory relevant and its offshoot,the NO GREEN LIGHT NO APPROACH theory does not hold water.

As an attractive guy, you are already a CHOSEN potential for girls, so you are not bothered by the fear of being rejected or not chosen. You know that your weapons of attraction never fails. Even if it fails you have a back up with ABUNDANCE MENTALITY, meaning you don't care if a girl choses you or not because there are thousands of other beautiful girls out there who will worship the ground under your feet.
someone is becoming a pained troll...

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by cerpvad(m): 5:48pm On Dec 20, 2019
No trolling intended
ubunja:
someone is becoming a pained troll...
Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by ubunja(m): 6:00pm On Dec 20, 2019
cerpvad:
No trolling intended
okay.

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by ubunja(m): 6:24pm On Dec 20, 2019
Everybody, say Hie to a troll...

Defenderalert:
May the Lord bless your marriage and may you not have multiple broken marriages like some bitter creatures called Ubunja who will never stay married and are "advicing" on how to join them in their ditch of frustration. Amen.

MiseduGAY crap aint doing shi.lol

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Re: Why Ubunja's "CHOSEN" Is Not Sacrosanct. by Adeniyi33(m): 6:32pm On Nov 21, 2021
ubunja:
Maximum respect for taking out time to put your opinion in a clear and calm manner.

This is the post in question for anyone who needs to know: https://www.nairaland.com/5520205/ubunjas-miseducation-chosen

Let's get to it:


The issue I see here is that you don't have a Clear understanding of what a Green Light is.

The most common Green Light is when a girl keeps looking your way for no apparent reason. Over and over. And sometimes you catch her looking at you. Or when you look at her, her face has just turned away to escape your look.

That's a green light.

Second is a smile that again comes from nowhere. But is so subtle that sometimes you're not sure if it was a smile or if you're sure it was a smile you think that maybe it wasn't meant for you. Ever seen a girl smile at you and you look behind you thinking that maybe she's smiling at someone behind you, cause for sure you don't know that girl and you see no reason why she should be smiling at you? Yeah that kind of smile. It's a green light.

Now, don't tell me you can never have the opportunity to see these things.

And of course you've to take context in account.

In any case, a future writeup will deal with the issue of green lights in depth. Their history, type and degrees of seriousness.




No, you don't have to approach a girl first to see a green light. A green light is not a kiss or sex.

But Yep, Green Lights by nature are NEVER 100% clear. You got that right. And why are they never 100% conclusive?

Its a defense strategy for the woman.

E.g A girl comes up to you at work to admire your shirt and touches the fabric as if to feel the quality. THAT'S A GREEN LIGHT. That touch/contact is a green light. But so you don't call her a ho, the touch comes in disguise of checking out your shirt quality. If the girl just straight-up touched you, you'll freak out. So she hides the touch behind a legitimate and real reason: to feel your shirt quality. That way, if you're clever you catch the message. If you're slow it's an opportunity lost.

Same thing when a woman calls you to "fix her TV". She wants you in her house. The TV is just a cover. If you're slow in Game, you'll fix her TV and go. But a Player reads between the lines and knows what's up.

Why does she need a real, concrete reason for you to be in her house? So if someone comes unexpectedly, she has a real, concrete reason for your presence in her house. So she's protecting her reputation.

Now, this is why Green Lights are never 100% clear. It's a defense mechanism. Just in case....

As a player you must add two or more hints to make sure you're being given a green light or not.

Eg. She asked you to her house to fix her TV? Then when you got there she changes into revealing clothes saying "it's hot", then she keeps commenting on your biceps, and keeps asking you why she never seen you with a girl? All these hints added together = a Green Light. It confirms everything beyond doubt.


So what are we saying? Green Lights are never conclusive as a defense mechanism for a woman. And most cases you must add two or more hints to judge beyond doubt its a Green Light you're being given. But at times you've to run with a single hint. Cause sometimes that one hint will be super bright.



What's the point of claiming abundance when out of the 50 girls you'll blindly approach a week only 3 will respond positively? And how many girls do you really need??

On an average day I personally get minimum 2 women that give me "the look" that says "I find you likeable". Now, if I acted on these daily, already I would be dealing with an abundance of women every week.


Problem is that guys don't know what to look for that tells them girls like them.

And they fear if they wait for the women to choose them, they might wait for ever. But that's not true. Women are always choosing men cause women don't all like the same type of man physically.

Also guys fear waiting to be chosen means they'll be chosen by low quality Women. That's true. And there are two solutions to this: 1. Attack and devour these low quality women and use them as practise and to grow your self esteem. 2. Work on upgrading yourself. Something as simple as new clothes and hitting the gym elevates your Sexual Market Value and catches the eye of higher quality women....

Let me stop here for now.


God bless you


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