WinningEleven:

I have actually tried it yesterday and it worked on me

Believe me, its only just begun. You will understand what I'm telling you with time. Meanwhile take as a scripture for the discipline(2Cor11:27). Please don't forget to remove my name for a reference and I'd still advise you try to make the thread an inquiry instead. Thanks.

WinningEleven:
please help me before I do something stupid. its a very simple yet complicated thing
lately, I dunno what is wrong with me. when I see girls, my body quakes.
by quakes, I mean that there is this movement inside of me that makes my heart, chest and stomach hurt for a second. like something inside me is moving uneasily. I don't understand this and it began lately.
what is wrong with me? I have prayed and prayed about it to no avail
FYI I'm a teen

To begin with; Beloved, I have sparingly followed your post and love your fire for God. May He give you the grace to follow Him in Jesus name.
Concerning your post, I can relate absolutely and to be Truly honest with you, it is a phase i've been through. Let me tell you one thing about this thing; when you succumb to that feeling, if you are born again you will notice spiritual energy drain from you. It is so frustrating and it looks like you are stuck in a weird loop.
I love you so much and would want to hear a beautiful testimony from you soonest. If you will agree, we can chat on WhatsApp and break this together.
You can also read the book of romans with the spirit. That book contains many things you would relate with and things that can help you.

WinningEleven:
lemme kuku answer the questions

@winningeleven, I have replied the mail. Feel free to add me up, there is so much to do.

WinningEleven:

FYI, the "angels" you said impregnated ladies were not the kind of spirit beings you think
The bible call them "Sons of God" not angels.
And also, the nature of the children they bore from women showed that their nature wasn't godly but EVIL

Hhhmmmn !
Genesis 6:4
In those days, and even later, there were
giants on the earth who were descendants
of human women and the heavenly beings.
They were the great heroes and famous men
of long ago."

Who were "the heavenly beings" that impregnated daughters of men in Genesis6:4?

What is the Hebrew word for "sons of God"?

MuttleyLaff:


Please dont make the mistake of believing that lie, because the Bible never called any angels anywhere the "sons of God"

Throway your LIE for sewage dump.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Job 1:6.
Now it came to pass on the day when the
sons of God came to present themselves
before Jehovah, that Satan also came
among them."

Compare Job 38:7. 2:1.

Janosky:
Throway your LIE for sewage dump.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Only those who do not wish to see, can be deceived. We should not be upset that the truth is hidden from us, when its we, who so often hide the truth from ourselves, lol.

Janosky:
Job 1:6.
Now it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan also came among them.

You this stubborn man, you're a glutton for beating, you have come back for more lashing, erhn?. Oya, tell now, who specifically are the "sons of God" that are mentioned in that Job 1:6, please I need some laughs tonight, so kindly humour me with your answer, lol. I just have to invite Finallydead here to come watch you again publicly advertising your ignorance and unfamiliarity with who really the "sons of God" are, lol.

Janosky:
Compare Job 38:7. 2:1.

Denying the truth doesn't change the fact of who really the "sons of God" are in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7 and even Genesis 6:4, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
WinningEleven, just be alert and on guard, so when/if you do eat the "The Official JW website lots of practical counsel for young people/youths" that you have the sense wisdom, good and right strength of mind to spit out the bones

MuttleyLaffY no know him problem. Lol.
OP, pay no heed to MuttleyLaff.


Visit this link to download volumes 1& 2 of the life changing book for Adolescents and Youths.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/teenagers/young-people-ask-volume-1/

Janosky:
MuttleyLaffY no know him problem. Lol.
OP, pay no heed to MuttleyLaff.

WinningEleven, Janosky is the finished article and/or evidence of the saying: "You are, what you eat"

Janosky:
Visit this link to download volumes 1& 2 of the life changing book for Adolescents and Youths.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/teenagers/young-people-ask-volume-1/

WinningEleven, if you are that smart enough and/or sensible to know that the sons of God are not angels, then I dont think you'll have any problems wading through resources at the Jehovah Witnesses' website. I use them when opportuned, as I find they have useful and/or interesting information that they provide, but all what I was saying and emphasising on is that, when you eat the meat, whether JW or not JW, just remember to spit out the bones, just like I do, lol.

WinningEleven, learn about the right eating habits and know about how certain foods, when eaten and/or taken in unchecked, can have adverse effect on the human mind, body, spirit and soul

MuttleyLaff:
Only those who do not wish to see, can be deceived. We should not be upset that the truth is hidden from us, when its we, who so often hide the truth from ourselves, lol.

You this stubborn man, you're a glutton for beating, you have come back for more lashing, erhn?. Oya, tell now, who specifically are the "sons of God" that are mentioned in that Job 1:6, please I need some laughs tonight, so kindly humour me with your answer, lol. I just have to invite Finallydead here to come watch you again publicly advertising your ignorance and unfamiliarity with who really the "sons of God" are, lol.

Denying the truth doesn't change the fact of who really the "sons of God" are in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7 and even Genesis 6:4, lol.

Job 1:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 One day the angels[ a ] came to present
themselves before the Lord, and Satan[ b ]
also came with them.
Footnotes:
a. Job 1:6 Hebrew the sons of God
b. Job 1:6 Hebrew satan means
adversary.

Compare Jude1:6, "the sons of God" left their heavenly habitation".
To where?
To the earth.
For Yahweh's assignment? No.

To marry the daughters of men in Genesis 6:4. ( = sin,rebellion against Yahweh because angels are forbidden from sex/marriage).
Yahweh bound them in chains ("Spirits in Prison, 1 Peter 3:19. 2Peter 2:4 (Tartarus) awaiting judgment..
Daniel 3:25, a son of God (angel) was in the burning furnace to protect Shadrach and his friends. Yahweh's assignment.

Luke3:38 who is that son of God that was rebellious?
MuttleyLaff, you have the freedom to laugh at your half baked wayo.

You can only confront *the flesh* with *the Cross of Jesus Christ* which is *accepting that you have died with your flesh/self/old-man together with the crucified body of Jesus Christ* about 2019 years ago on Calvary which brought about *killed our old-flesh and replaced it with the new flesh of Jesus Christ*
thus
2 Corinthians 5:21 Living Bible (TLB)
21 For God *took the sinless Christ* and *poured into him our sins*. Then, *in exchange*, he *poured God’s goodness into us!*

Janosky:
Job 1:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan [b] also came with them.
Footnotes:
a. Job 1:6 Hebrew the sons of God
b. Job 1:6 Hebrew satan means adversary.

Compare Jude1:6, "the sons of God" left their heavenly abode".
To where?
To the earth.
For Yahweh's assignment? No.

To marry the daughters of men in Genesis 6:4. ( = sin,rebellion against Yahweh because angels are forbidden from sex/marriage).
Yahweh bound them in chains ("Spirits in Prison, 1 Peter 3:19, 2 Peter 2:4 awaiting judgment, Tartarus.
Daniel 3:25, a son of God (angel) was in the burning furnace to protect Shadrach and his friends. Yahweh's assignment.
You have the freedom to laugh at your half baked wayo.

Everybody ara adugbo, neighbours please pick and take chairs come gather round watch this man make a right tomfoolery of himself.

Oya now Janosky, please show where from, in scripture, did the Bible specifically say that the "sons of God" are angels ooo. Point out the bible verse that in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt said that the Hebrews for "sons of God" are angel.

Look at you prooftexting with Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19, 2 Peter 2:4. You think Jude 1:6 and all them others are good verses thing, thats all and each in your favour, huh? Smh. Tell me now Janosky, where exactly in 1 Peter 3:19, contextually or not contextually, do you see and/or read any mention of angels in that 1 Peter 3:19 verse, huh? Janosky, if you're aware and do know that "Tartarus" is part of Greek mythology and never a Jewish concept, you wouldnt have had the nerve to mention 2 Peter 2:4, in your quasi scripture list to me, smh.

Look at you trying your hands again at prooftexting, this time, with Daniel 3:25. Had I not already know that Daniel 3:25 is about Christophany, you could and even would have got me fooled me, smh.

Janosky, I am 10000% sure that, you will NEVER find it in you, to present here, where the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically says that the "sons of God" are angels, lol. All you'll be able to do is try your usual "wuru-wuru" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man" devious way(s) to give an answer

Janosky, whilst we are awaiting you oblige the immediate above humble request, why dont you please paste here:
1/ As many translations of Job 1:3 that you can lay your hands on
2/ Also paste here, a reliable interlinear of Job 1:3 for both of us, to together, study, examine and compare it with what you've pasted up for #1 above, lol

If you have the balls, try me, tempt fate now, and just oblige all three requests lol, and watch Janosky, especially with the last two requests, how your argument and your defence, that "sons of God" are angels, is blown out of water, and that's going to be even before your performance has got the chance to get off the ground, lol, bwahahaha.
cc: deuzgreat, WinningEleven, Finallydead

MuttleyLaff:
Everybody ara adugbo, neighbours please pick and take chairs come gather round watch this man make a right tomfoolery of himself.

Oya now Janosky, please show where from, in scripture, did the Bible specifically say that the "sons of God" are angels ooo. Point out the bible verse that in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt said that the Hebrews for "sons of God" are angel.

Look at you prooftexting with Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19, 2 Peter 2:4. You think Jude 1:6 and all them others are good verses thing, thats all and each in your favour, huh? Smh. Tell me now Janosky, where exactly in 1 Peter 3:19, contextually or not contextually, do you see and/or read any mention of angels in that 1 Peter 3:19 verse, huh? Janosky, if you're aware and do know that "Tartarus" is part of Greek mythology and never a Jewish concept, you wouldnt have had the nerve to mention 2 Peter 2:4, in your quasi scripture list to me, smh.

Look at you trying your hands again at prooftexting, this time, with Daniel 3:25. Had I not already know that Daniel 3:25 is about Christophany, you could and even would have got me fooled me, smh.

Janosky, I am 10000% sure that, you will NEVER find it in you, to present here, where the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically says that the "sons of God" are angels, lol. All you'll be able to do is try your usual "wuru-wuru" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man" devious way(s) to give an answer

Janosky, whilst we are awaiting you oblige the immediate above humble request, why dont you please paste here:
1/ As many translations of Job 1:3 that you can lay your hands on
2/ Also paste here, a reliable interlinear of Job 1:3 for both of us, to together, study, examine and compare it with what you've pasted up for #1 above, lol

If you have the balls, try me, tempt fate now, and just oblige all three requests lol, and watch Janosky, especially with the last two requests, how your argument and your defence, that "sons of God" are angels, is blown out of water, and that's going to be even before your performance has got the chance to get off the ground, lol, bwahahaha.
cc: deuzgreat, WinningEleven, Finallydead

When will MuttleyLaff desist from making a mockery of his scriptural illiteracy and blindness?

Job1:3, Is Job "the sons of God" in Job 1:6 & 2:1 ?

Hades exists in Greek mythology. Is the Greek Hades not spoken of in the New Testament ?
In the same vein, is Tartarus not spoken of in 2Peter 2:4?

*Jude 1:6, are the angels who sinned & were chained in Tartarus not awaiting judgment?
Where are criminals kept while awaiting judgment?
2 Peter 2:4 = common sense & divine wisdom.
*Hebrews 1:7. Psalm 104:4 Are angels flesh and blood?

The Hebrew expression "Sons of God" has only one meaning> 'Angels'.
* In Genesis 6:4, what's the crime in a man ('son of God') impregnates his woman?
Genesis 6:4, points to the fact that those offsprings were 'abnormal',so to speak, not according to divine will.
Jude1:6 ,2 Peter2:4. 1Peter3:19,20. Job1:6 are the meat for the bone of Gen6:4.
1Peter3:20 says the 'spirits' in verse19 were disobedient during Noah's day.
* There is none as blind as he who stubbornly refuses to see.... oh MuttleyLaff !!

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Janosky:
When will MuttleyLaff desist from making a mockery of his scriptural illiteracy and blindness?

Job1:3, Is Job "the sons of God" in Job 1:6 & 2:1 ?

Hades exists in Greek mythology. Is the Greek Hades not spoken of in the New Testament ?
In the same vein, is Tartarus not spoken of in 2Peter 2:4?

*Jude 1:6, are the angels who sinned & were chained in Tartarus not awaiting judgment?
Where are criminals kept while awaiting judgment?
2 Peter 2:4 = common sense & divine wisdom.
*Hebrews 1:7. Psalm 104:4 Are angels flesh and blood?

The Hebrew expression "Sons of God" has only one meaning> 'Angels'.
* In Genesis 6:4, what's the crime in a man ('son of God') impregnates his woman?
Genesis 6:4, points to the fact that those offsprings were 'abnormal',so to speak, not according to divine will.
Jude1:6 ,2 Peter2:4. 1Peter3:19,20. Job1:6 are the meat for the bone of Gen6:4.
1Peter3:20 says the 'spirits' in verse19 were disobedient during Noah's day.
* There is none as blind as he who stubbornly refuses to see.... oh MuttleyLaff !![

MuttleyLaff:
Janosky, I am 10000% sure that, you will NEVER find it in you, to present here, where the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically says that the "sons of God" are angels, lol. All you'll be able to do is try your usual "wuru-wuru" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man" devious way(s) to give an answer

Janosky, whilst we are awaiting you oblige the immediate above humble request, why dont you please paste here:
1/ As many translations of Job 1:3 that you can lay your hands on
2/ Also paste here, a reliable interlinear of Job 1:3 for both of us, to together, study, examine and compare it with what you've pasted up for #1 above, lol

If you have the balls, try me, tempt fate now, and just oblige all three requests lol, and watch Janosky, especially with the last two requests, how your argument and your defence, that "sons of God" are angels, is blown out of water, and that's going to be even before your performance has gotten the chance to get off the ground, lol, bwahahaha.

MuttleyLaff:
We will see who is the real "wuru-wuru-to-the-answer" "wayo-wayo" and "cunning-man-die" here, lol and thats if at all, you'll already answer or respond to the above three requests

Stop messing with my precious time please. Where is it that the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically and categorically says that the "sons of God" are angels Janosky, huh?

Janosky you deliberately chose to not reply back in the numbered format and order the three requests were made on you, all so that you're trying to block and prevent your ignorance, lies, biblical illiteracy and blind as a gnat blindness to the truth of who really the "sons of God" in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7 are, to be found out

You've secretly checked out the interlinear on Job 1:3 and have seen the truth in it that's left you alarmed, shocked, worried and frightened. You're now either, too embrassed and shamed or just a weak and/or unpleasant coward, which is why you cant bring yourself up to type and/or paste here the contents of the Job 1:3 interlinear for both of us to painstakingly examine and review together, lol. What a sore loser, smh.

WinningEleven:
You think I haven't tried it at all?
I haven't felt anything since yesterday and today too

How's it been with you? I also saw you removed the other post?

MuttleyLaff:




Stop messing with my precious time please. Where is it that the Bible in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Genesis 6:4, Jude 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Peter 3:19 and/or 2 Peter 2:4 specifically and categorically says that the "sons of God" are angels Janosky, huh?

Janosky you deliberately chose to not reply back in the numbered format and order the three requests were made on you, all so that you're trying to block and prevent your ignorance, lies, biblical illiteracy and blind as a gnat blindness to the truth of who really the "sons of God" in Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7 are, to be found out

You've secretly checked out the interlinear on Job 1:3 and have seen the truth in it that's left you alarmed, shocked, worried and frightened. You're now either, too embrassed and shamed or just a weak and/or unpleasant coward, which is why you cant bring yourself up to type and/or paste here the contents of the Job 1:3 interlinear for both of us to painstakingly examine and review together, lol. What a sore loser, smh.

Bible > Strong's > Hebrew > 1121
◄ 1121. ben
►
Strong's Concordance
ben: son
Original Word: בֵּן
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: ben
Phonetic Spelling: (bane)
Definition: son
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
son
NASB Translation
d.
בְּנֵי האלהים applied to supernatural beings
GENESIS 6:2,4 ; JOB 1:6 ; JOB 2:1 ; בְּנֵי אלהים
Job 38:7 ; בְּנֵי אֵלִים Psalm 29:1 (on which
compare Che's note) Psalm 89:7 ."
**Hebrew bene ha Elohim= angels, sons of God.
**********
Wayo MuttleyLaff dubious use Job1:3 to save face falls yakata....
For your delusional mind 7000 sheep,1000 cattle,3000 camels na sons of God for spirit realm where Yahweh lives.

Janosky:
Bible > Strong's > Hebrew > 1121
◄ 1121. ben
►
Strong's Concordance
ben: son
Original Word: בֵּן
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: ben
Phonetic Spelling: (bane)
Definition: son
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
son
NASB Translation
d.
בְּנֵי האלהים applied to supernatural beings
GENESIS 6:2,4 ; JOB 1:6 ; JOB 2:1 ; בְּנֵי אלהים
Job 38:7 ; בְּנֵי אֵלִים Psalm 29:1 (on which compare Che's note) Psalm 89:7 ."
**Hebrew bene ha Elohim= angels, sons of God.
**********
Wayo MuttleyLaff dubious use Job1:3 to save face falls yakata....
For your delusional mind 7000 sheep,1000 cattle,3000 camels na sons of God for spirit realm where Yahweh lives.

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The fear of pasting the Greek Interlinear for Job 1:3 here, publicly for all to see, is the beginning of wisdom for Janosky, lol

You've secretly checked out the interlinear on Job 1:3 and have seen the truth in it that's left you alarmed, shocked, worried and frightened. You're now either, too embrassed and shamed or just a weak and/or unpleasantly turned yellow coward, which is why you cant bring yourself up to type and/or paste here the contents of the Job 1:3 interlinear for both of us to painstakingly examine and review together, lol. What a sore loser, smh, lol

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you thank you, thank you

You said at #5 above, the whole urges problem started 4-3 days ago, which considering you're at least between 15-18 years old at least implies the issue is a recently developed one, so the question here at #6, is asking that, what to your mind, do you think caused you to begin all of a sudden, develop this seemingly unhealthy strong and compelling attraction to women/girls. Something must have triggered this. You dont seem to have same urges towards your mother, sisters, aunts, nieces etc. You dont seem to have this uncontrollable urge/desire feelings, that is going unchecked, towards not good looking, shapeless and/or not well physically blessed women/girls

Good

Lol, I am not Finallydead. I dont do presupposition and if I do, I often will tell that I am doing it, lol. Dont get worried my brother, this is a shut and close case. You dont really have a problem, what you are in need of is a paradigm shift, once you have it, as I earlier said you'll see all women and/or girls in a different light, lol and all those lust will evaporate, disappear, lol

PS: I really need to already be out, else I'll be late for my appointment. Excuse me. Ah, I've seen Image123 waving the stick at you and beating you with it, lol. It is well, lol

Going through this thread, I must say you made me smile

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/MuttleyManicalHilarious.gif[/img]
The fear of pasting the Greek Interlinear for Job 1:3 here, publicly for all to see, is the beginning of wisdom for Janosky, lol

You've secretly checked out the interlinear on Job 1:3 and have seen the truth in it that's left you alarmed, shocked, worried and frightened. You're now either, too embrassed and shamed or just a weak and/or unpleasantly turned yellow coward, which is why you cant bring yourself up to type and/or paste here the contents of the Job 1:3 interlinear for both of us to painstakingly examine and review together, lol. What a sore loser, smh, lol

Kai !!!!
Are you 'high' on dangerous something ?

The burden of proof rests on MuttleyLaff....
He's the one ranting about Job1:3 interlinear, which has ZERO correlation with "bene ha Elohim" ('sons of God) Job 1:6. 2:1.
I challenge MuttleyLaff to post here the Job 1:3 interlinear , make all man see am....

Janosky:
Kai !!!!
Are you 'high' on dangerous something?

If I had been high on any dangerous something at all, then it just means, it would have been you who introduced me to your dealer, lol

Janosky:
The burden of proof rests on MuttleyLaff....

Listen to him Janosky, trying to pull this stunt with me. Is this the latest you have that your hand has found in your bag of tricks, eh? lol You think you'll become invinble by throwing the "burden of proof" at MuttleyLaff, hmm, lol?

Janosky, fyi, you have this perverse presumption that the burden of proof rests on MuttleyLaff, smh. Prove it nah, where the bible specifically and anywhere ever in black and white, has called angels the "sons of God" and/or when angels are said to be or addressed as "sons of God" C'mon now Janosky, let us invert this your malarkey "burden of proof" wanting to sound smart talk with you showing where the bible spelled out that angels are "sons of God" lol

Of course, OK, for the sake of this thread, let's say the burden of proof, rests with MuttleyLaff, BUT you're CLEARLY seen to be scared and worried of permitting MuttleyLaff to establish the fact beyond a reasonable doubt, and so you, you wont provide a pasted copy for all to see the Job 1:3 interlinear together because you know that:
1/ The bible nowhere specifically and anywhere ever in black and white, has called angels the "sons of God" and neither have angels been addressed to angels as "sons of God"
2/ The Job 1:3 interlinear does not anywhere and anyhow say "bene ha Elohim," even Jehovah Witnesses' NWT (i.e. New World Translation) doesnt use "bene ha Elohim," lol

Tbh, when you hear people sliding the "burden of proof" envelope just like you've just done, it is not because someone, the like you Janosky, at all wants the truth blown wide open and be out, it is because deep down inside, you want the truth hidden, you want to keep things the same, you want the pseudo belief that angels are the "sons of God" to remain just like that, lol.

Janosky:
He's the one ranting about Job 1:3 interlinear, which has ZERO correlation with "bene ha Elohim" ('sons of God) Job 1:6. 2:1

Janosky, if you have nothing to be scared of, why not, simply paste it, maybe to just shut MuttleyLaff up with it nah, hmm, lol? Paste it here, and tell MuttleyLaff to do MuttleyLaff's worse with it, nah, lol

I have countless times seen you quote interlinears, you do even advise others to go and read some Hebrew interlinear transcriptions so to stop scamming themselves, lol, just as you currently unfortunately are erroneously believing and scamming yourself, that the phrase "sons of God" are angels, lol, when there is no where in the bible that specifically spells this out in black and white, lol. All you are doing is "cunning man style, wayo-wayo, wuru-wuru" to the answer, lol.

Janosky:
I challenge MuttleyLaff to post here the Job 1:3 interlinear, make all man see am....

You will have to do the honours to post here, the Job 1:3 interlinear, without my help, all by yourself, my dear sire, lol. It's you who will paste the interlinear yourself with your own hands. I dare you to put your hands into the fiery furnace fire, lol, and lets watch whose hands will get burned, lol This is where the boys get separated from the men, lol. This where we'll know, if you've got insanely big chutzpah or not, lol.

Janosky, you're yakety yak, making noise, screaming blue murder "the burden of proof rests on MuttleyLaff, the burden of proof rests on MuttleyLaff" upandan the place, all because you think its a difficult, hard and impossible thing to do, to show you the truth that the bible nowhere specifically and anywhere, in black and white has ever called angels the "sons of God" nor has it addressed them as or with such phrase and so due to this, its more difficult, harder and an impossible thing for you to admit you're in the wrong. You don't want the whole wide world, to see the truth in Job 1:3 interlinear together at the same time with you because you don't want your illusions destroyed, and with everyone watching, lol. You're scared of the prospect of your "living in a bubble" world crashing down on you, lol.

Dont get me wrong Janosky, everyone's entitled to their opinion about who the "sons of God" are but they including you, cant be entitled to their own facts. The fact is there apparent in the Job 1:3 interlinear, lol, you know this and you're not comfortable of this fact, thats why you cant paste the Job 1:3 interlinear here with your own hands, lol.

Janosky:


Nothing is wrong with you. calm down.
You are passing through a normal phase of development ,puberty phase.
Your parents should have educated you and made you aware of the changes in your body as well as fluctuations of feelings and emotions you would pass through as you transition from teenage years to mature, adulthood.
Beware of the counsel of Ahithophel,that is your peers and others who may mislead you with half truths about sexuality education.
Please Google this very informative book, "Questions Young People Ask- Answers That Work", published by Jehovah's witnesses.
The Official JW website has lots of practical counsel for young people/youths.
God bless.

That isn't a normal phase o.

No amount of hormones should make your body spasm when you see ladies as a teen.

MuttleyLaff:


. Prove it nah, where the bible specifically and anywhere ever in black and white, has called angels the "sons of God" and/or when angels are said to be or addressed as "sons of God" C'mon now Janosky, let us invert this your malarkey "burden of proof" wanting to sound smart talk with you showing where the bible spelled out that angels are "sons of God".....
1/ The bible nowhere specifically and anywhere ever in black and white, has called angels the "[i]sons of God" and neither have angels been addressed to angels as "sons of God"
2/ The Job 1:3 interlinear does not anywhere and anyhow say "bene ha Elohim," even Jehovah Witnesses' NWT (i.e. New World Translation) doesnt use "bene ha Elohim," lol

Tbh, when you hear people sliding the "burden of proof" envelope just like you've just done, it is not because someone, the like you Janosky, at all wants the truth blown wide open and be out, it is because deep down inside, you want the truth hidden, you want to keep things the same, you want the pseudo belief that angels are the "sons of God" to remain just like that, lol.


I have countless times seen you quote interlinears, you do even advise others to go and read some Hebrew interlinear transcriptions so to stop scamming themselves, lol, just as you currently unfortunately are erroneously believing that the phrase "sons of God" are angels, lol.

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Job 1:6-7
6 One day the angels[ a ] came to present
themselves before the Lord, and Satan[ b ]
also came with them. 7 The Lord said to
Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming
throughout the earth, going back and forth
on it.”

Footnotes:
a. Job 1:6 Hebrew the sons of God
b. Job 1:6 Hebrew satan means
adversary.
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Angels were created by God, that fact alone is proof to every sane person that angels are sons of God, the Most High, Yahweh.
Any where you see "sons of God" in your Bible, remove am & type your moniker there, make your belle sweet you die...
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Pls continue to console yourself with your wayo ,iwuruwuru, deceit.
Nobody will force you to believe the truth.

Janosky:
Job 1:6-7
6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan [b]also came with them.
7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

Footnotes:
a. Job 1:6 Hebrew the sons of God
b. Job 1:6 Hebrew satan means adversary.
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Angels were created by God, that fact alone is proof to every sane person that angels are sons of God, the Most High, Yahweh.
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Pls continue to console yourself with your wayo, wuruwuru, deceit. Nobody will force you to believe the truth.

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Whats the matter with this shameless cheap "wayo-wayo, wuru-wuru-to -the-answer" cunning man, erhn?

Where in that Job 1:6-7, did you see the bible spell out angels, erhn?. Is it not "sons of God" we both read in that text ni erhn? So how did you magically see angels being written in the text, erhn? Ah Janosky fear God now, arent animals created by God, arent mountains, rivers, the clouds, trees, birds etcetera created by God, so why arent they too, according to your warped deducted reasoning called "sons of God, the Most High, Yahweh"

Janosky, if with that your another proof-texting with Job 1:6, I should come down on you, you wouldnt like yourself, in fact by the time I am done with you, you'll like Job, hate the day you were born. You think it is angels, right, smh, that presented themselves to God when I can show a thousand and one bible verses, that it is human beings that always explicitly have been presenting themselves to God, lol. Case in point, Moses, as per Exodus 34:2 instruction, presented himself to God. Other bible verse, had, Moses and Joshua presented themselves to God. Even God instructed Moses to specifically, get the Israelites, consecrated, have them wash their clothes, get cleaned up and ready to present themselves to Him, God too. We have Joshua, that gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and called for the elders of Israel, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers; and they presented themselves before God, so you this impossible man Janosky, what are you talking about now, trying to infer that its now angels, in Job 1:6-7, that are presenting themselves to God, lol., smh. My man Janosky lol, you dont understand the implication and in any of those contexts, and for example that Job 1:6, the meaning and reason for that "present themselves before the Lord". You dont know what is going on when "presenting before God" is happening neither have you any clue, what's about to go down when "presenting before God" happens, lol, smh. I pity you Janosky, peele, ndo, sorry, lol

Janosky:
Any where you see "sons of God" in your Bible, remove am & type your moniker there, make your belle sweet you die...
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"But those that received Him,
to them He gave authority to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on His Name,"
- John 1:12

Of course Janosky, that one nah "dandan' now, that one is guaranteed, it goes without you needing to tell me, lol. It comes with the terrain, lol. Yep, I will boldly, proudly and gladly type my moniker there, and that is because of John 1:12 above, lol, praise God Alleluia. Smello dey smell Janosky probably doesnt know about John 1:12, lol.

You're averse to the truth, you're scared shitting inside, lol and thats why you have brown pants on, to mask the fear of facing the truth in the Job 1:3 interlinear. It is giving you deservedly daymares and nightmares, lol.

WinningEleven:
please help me before I do something stupid. its a very simple yet complicated thing
lately, I dunno what is wrong with me. when I see girls, my body quakes.
by quakes, I mean that there is this movement inside of me that makes my heart, chest and stomach hurt for a second. like something inside me is moving uneasily. I don't understand this and it began lately.
what is wrong with me? I have prayed and prayed about it to no avail
FYI I'm a teen

What you're experiencing is not strange!

Almost every sexually potent human do experience the same around 13-19 years, girls do have the feeling earlier than boys!

That's why all members of Jehovah's Witnesses were admonished to educate our children about sex before they reach this stage. The urge may lead to serious psychological damages if not treated in time.

So i'll advice you to go to our website @ JW.org to download or ask JWs for this publication Questions young people ask, answers that works

You also need the assistance of a mature JW to study the publication (if you don't enjoy reading alone)

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WinningEleven, you need a matured one indeed, lol.

BitCraftman:
That isn't a normal phase o.

No amount of hormones should make your body spasm when you see ladies as a teen.

It's normal!

Most people around you are experiencing the same thing, but because they don't come out to do what this smart teen did, you'll never know.

The result of keeping it to themselves is what you're hearing often in the neighborhood.

Prevalence of

Teenage sex
Rape
Underage pregnancies
Homosexuals
Lesbianism
Bestiality
Incest

And so on.

God gave the Israelites almost 200 rules on SEX because he knows that humans will begin experiencing it, and because they've ignored divine counsel on how to study and master their bodies to know how best they can make use of each body part especially sex organs, it will lead to pestilences in the human society.
That's why God insisted that those who have subjected themselves to his standards shouldn't marry any of those who knew nothing about his laws!

God bless you!

Janosky:

Pls continue to console yourself with your wayo ,iwuruwuru, deceit.
Nobody will force you to believe the truth.

Do you really need responding to every post?

Well, if you've dropped your comments on what the OP asked for, and he feels like knowing more you can continue chatting with him(OP) but you can't concentrate when you're carried away with what each person in the market is saying!

They will say they're your BROTHERS/SISTERS in the Lord, yet when you're trying to establish what you've learnt from the Lord to help others apply it they'll start objecting vehemently.

So i wonder how we're brothers in the Lord if we don't share same thought on serious issues!

Lord means Master and master means someone controlling your thoughts, so if we claim to be brothers and sisters under one Lord, how come contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings?

Jesus said religionists of his time were children of Satan because they're LYING to themselves that they're worshiping the same God{John 8:44} yet there is serious contradictions within them! Act 23:6-8

MuttleyLaff:


Please dont make the mistake of believing that lie, because the Bible never called any angels anywhere the "sons of God"

PS: Well done WinningEleven for correcting deuzgreat. I'll soon get to you. You're a smart guy and you wouldnt have any problem overcoming this seemingly problem after I have shared some info and realities with you

finally we have two muttleylaff to battle npw..

Maximus69:


What you're experiencing is not strange!

Almost every sexually potent human do experience the same around 13-19 years, girls do have the feeling earlier than boys!

That's why all members of Jehovah's Witnesses were admonished to educate our children about sex before they reach this stage. The urge may lead to serious psychological damages if not treated in time.

So i'll advice you to go to our website @ JW.org to download or ask JWs for this publication Questions young people ask, answers that works

You also need the assistance of a mature JW to study the publication (if you don't enjoy reading alone)

I'm currently studying the soft texts now sire
Seems it's simplified enough for peeps like me to do alone

Finallydead:

How's it been with you? I also saw you removed the other post?

yes sir I removed it cause when I thought about what you said it was true to me.
the urges are still here but I have a way of choking and controlling them now
thank you very much

muttleylaff and janosky, whats with the long arguments ?

WinningEleven:

I'm currently studying the soft texts now sire
Seems it's simplified enough for peeps like me to do alone

It's just a publication from the Watchtower society, but its helpful for youths throughout the earth.

If you love and enjoy reading on your own, you'll marvel at the wisdom of the publishers but as for lazy readers we encourage them by studying the publication with them.

Just be rest assured that you're perfectly OK, it's the normal process of puberty that majority around you failed to speak out for help in managing it {Matthew 7:7--8} God's holy spirit is the helper that's helping us to develop the new personality that's created in God's image { Romans 6:6, Ephesians 4:22-24, Colossians 3:9-10} this personality will gradually build in us LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF~CONTROL Galatians 5:22-23

With self-control, this urge can't become your Master as it has overpowered and pushed many into
©Premarital sex
©Incest
©Bestiality
©Homosexuality
©Lesbianism
©Rape
©Adultery and so on!

Apostle Paul talked about suchlike urges that he was STRUGGLING with within himself {Romans 7:21-25} he never mentioned the type of urge but it's evident that it's a sinful one.
So my friend all you need is help to become Master over your own body!1Corinthians 9:7

YOU ARE NOT ALONE! 1Peter 5:9