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| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 9:48am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Life after death remains a mystery to man. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Howitzer: 9:51am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: I didn't want to join in this conversation, and I still won't join, I'll just keep observing and learning too.. But i thought to add this. How does looking at a brozen serpent hung on a stick get you healed of a snake bite? Foolishness, right? Absurd, right? But True. The Preaching of the cross is foolishness to this world, but to us who have received the life of Christ, it is the wisdom of God.. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by gaventa: 10:09am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Bros you get sense I swear. Only you get sense. Thanks for this Hismasterpiece: |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by fekolastic(m): 10:17am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Any soul that dies in sin will go to hell, the bible says the wages of SIN is death. And also no man that sin can claim he knows Gods.It is only when we ask for forgiveness and forsake our sins that he will forgive us and make us whole. Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? the answer is no. Our salvation come with renewing our minds daily. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 10:43am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Seetto:In essence you and I are not any better than any of those people. Therefore, the sacrifice was for all of mankind, because we're all infected with sin, no matter the degree to which everyone of us sins. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 10:43am On Dec 22, 2019*. Modified: 11:06am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Howitzer:Looking at a brozen serpent to heal you from a snake bite is not the problem here, the problem here is in what way does looking at it gives you healing. Mainstream christianity says you must believe the sacrifice happened, that God placed jesus there because he needs a kind of sacrifice and blood to take away our sins, so jesus was that sacrifice. The way many people understand this is false if you don't explain it properly to them. When the bible says look at the cross for your healing or paul says the preaching of the cross is foolishness they are not saying that jesus was a substitute for your sin so that if you believe this you become righteous. They are saying the cross is a stumbling block to jews because the jews cannot imagine that a powerful messaiah ( son of God) would be on a cross, and so they cannot believe that God also wants to be seen as a king in this way, as one who shares in the suffering of his people. The cross was foolishness to Greeks and Roman's because the Christians were saying jesus is the true ruler of the world recognized by God and seating at his right hand after death and not Augustus Ceaser who was a great conqueror who was worshipped as the son of God and as one who brought peace, this is foolishness to the gentiles because jesus did not attain status of power, instead he died as a slave and not just as a slave but a common criminal. In Exodus, the children of lsrael were told to look at a snake for their healing so they could understand that salvation of God comes from the most unlikely place even from one hung on a cursed tree. The message here is that there would come a time when the jews and the world would need the help of God and only in looking at jesus would they find it, but they wouldn't want to do that because he died on a tree( and cursed is anyone on a tree). But then they must observe and Learn the ways of God from this symbolic suffering if they want God's salvation and healing. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Daejoyoung: 11:02am On Dec 22, 2019 |
The cross is challenging our worldview of what it means to be powerful and introducing us to how God sees power and status in this world, it is a challenge to our thought process in order to create a paradigm shift. This is why paul said the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of man. The preaching of the cross was foolishness in Paul's day because the cross was not a pleasant symbol, it was a means of Roman oppression and power which jesus turned upside down on it's head. People rejected christianity then because they couldn't understand how a true king in God's eyes would then suffer and die like the common people, even the worst criminals. This is what the bible then means when it says that he bore our sins and shame, meaning that he was counted amongst the transgressors and was in every way made like all of his brethren even the least of them, as well as the greatest sinners amongst them, and there he was telling God to forgive them, loving them even unto death. That is why till this day his blood speaks better things than that of Abel. His blood is not crying unto God for vengeance but for reconciliation of the world, for forgiveness of all even his wicked murderers. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 11:24am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Seetto:How does my thinking affect bobrisky? ![]() |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 11:25am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Seetto:Your point? |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Mummymahdi(f): 11:33am On Dec 22, 2019 |
jiggaz:Then why do we still sin? Am confused ooi |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Mummymahdi(f): 11:35am On Dec 22, 2019 |
fekolastic:Thats it |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by tunde4top(m): 12:02pm On Dec 22, 2019*. Modified: 12:47pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Hismasterpiece:Because our God is a just God. There is what we call "the law of procreation" in Genesis 1 and 2 which states that everything God creates will automatically recreate itself in its own likeness. But when Adam and Eve fell and earned the title of a sinner, they automatically subjected all humanity to that likeness based on the law of procreation. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned John 3:18 whoever believes not is condemned already. So before we were born, we already earned the title of a sinner and condenmed/judged to perish. Is that fair to?. Of course no. So because our God is a fair and just God. He applied the same principle through Jesus. Romans 5:17 (Good news Translation) For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ. Romans 5:19 (Good news translation) And just as all people were made sinners as the result of the disobedience of one man, in the same way they will all be put right with God as the result of the obedience of the one man. (New King James version) For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one begotten only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Successdude(m): 12:19pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
jiggaz:That's How You People LEAD PEOPLE TO HELL ..... You don't read Revelations ? How can the bible tell us we shouldnt commit sin and same time telling us that commiting it doesn't change anything too ... Satan is using you people's funny preaching. There is no truth in this .... |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by BRASH: 12:24pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
So any body that does wrong is not a christian and there is no man that does no wrong. Therefore,according to u, everybody is a sinner including u, and there no christians since all christians do wrong ochibuogwu5: |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 12:32pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
tunde4top:Roger! Thanks. Enjoy your Sunday. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by KingGBsky(m): 12:45pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:Either you an atheist or you are confused. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal savior and see your life change for good. Your questions will be answered when you receive The Holy Spirit into your life. Have a good day. Another thing instead of asking questions that will lead to more questions all you need to do is ask the Holy Spirit who will direct and teach you all things. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Gallantrugged: 1:03pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
I pity Christians with their occultic beliefs... What a waste in life |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Gallantrugged: 1:04pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
I pity Christians with their occultic beliefs... What a waste in life and in the hereafter!!! |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Clinghton: 1:07pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
nice write up,
self- righteousness is being ignorant of our shortcoming. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by kareemkamil(m): 1:31pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Keeping deceiving your self, Christianity isn't a religion |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Nobody: 1:56pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
There is a sin not unto death and there's is a sin unto death (1John5). The first one is the temptation we face like Peter. The second is iniquity (falsehood) and witchcraft. The brother will go to hell if its the second one. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by pressplay411(m): 2:11pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
jiggaz:True. Eternal salvation is genuine when we bear the fruits (evidences). -John the Baptist calls it the fruits of repentance. Luke 3:8 -Jesus calls it Fruit of the Vine. John 15:1-2 -Paul calls it Fruit of the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by JADEK01(m): 2:27pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
jiggaz:I give God all the glory for giving me grace to know Jesus Christ,my salvation is sure |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Ostrogoth(m): 2:44pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:John 6:28-29 says, "Then they said unto Him, 'What shall we do that we may work the works of God?' Jesus answered and said unto them, 'This is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He sent.' " The gospel of the kingdom of God is also summarized into John 3:16 because there is no way you get into the kingdom of God without eternal Life which is a free gift of God according to John 3:16. Jesus taught those who were under the law, today if you are really saved and have the Spirit of Christ within you, you'll find that you forgive people no matter how angry you were. I personally have experienced this many times. I've found myself praying for safety and blessing for those who hate me most. The only commandment Christ gave us when He was going is the commandment of love (John13:34-35, John 15:12-17, 1 Corinthians chapter 13, etc). As the op has rightly pointed out, we live in righteousness by the nature and Spirit of God within us as pointed out in Romans 8. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Omoslim26: 2:54pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:firstly the original plan of God for man is to have total swift nd direct fellowship with God bt sin breached that plan when you believe and accept Christ into your Life the life of Christ that was taking nd resurrected on the Cross comes into you nd kills off the sin nature in you you then receive the power to b called the son of God the greek word for righteousness is dikaios it means justified, right so when you believe and accept the work of Christ of God by faith you become swithed over to the original plan which makes you justified before God |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Ostrogoth(m): 2:57pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Mummymahdi:We sin because even though we are saved, our minds have been programmed to think and therefore follow the old nature and that is why the Bible says we must renew our minds with the Word of God Romans 12vs2. Also to be carnally minded is death but to be Spiritually minded is life and peace (ROM 8v6). Death in this context means all that was characteristic of the old nature such as sin. The Bible tells us how to overcome sin though, please read and meditate on Romans 8 vs 10 to 11. Renewing the mind with the Word of God and by the Spirit of God is why you see new converts become more and more Spiritual as they grow older in Christ. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by stave9ja(m): 2:59pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
I was afraid this might be one of those intentionally twisted teachings and it truly is You started well and highlighted two kinds of sin Bad deeds Sinful nature You explained the death on the cross in relations to sinful nature Perfect and true You now twisted the ending to favor your desires that because your have accepted the death in the cross, you are no more a sinner even if your are still committing bad deeds...... What a confusing conclusion If your accept the cross, you must accept the way of life of him who died on the cross. Your must flee the appearance of evil. You must have a renewing of your mind, you must run the race with fear of God..... Your conclusion states that a man who is sleeping with his neighbors wife, but who have confessed that he had accepted the cross will go to heaven and that is far lie from the pit of hell BE NOT DECEIVED, THE WAGES OF SIN IS STILL DEATH, |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by biggy26: 3:06pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:If you know how man inherited the sin nature, then you will understand how righteousness could be given or received. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Myzzyfrazzy(m): 3:07pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
jiggaz:you said nothing about baptism jon 3:3 , mat 28:18_20, mark 16: 16 Act 2 38 act 8 act 16 romans 5: 4.. nice right up. |
| Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(op): 3:21pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
JADEK01:Amen |
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