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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by unstoppable51(m): 9:30pm On Dec 21, 2019
jiggaz:
Unstoppable51 Good afternoon bro.. I just saw this amazing article on your blog now and i had to post it!! God bless you exceedingly... It's all about Christ Jesus...

Thanks a lot beloved. The Lord reward your efforts in making His Gospel known all over the world. It's not easy doing what you do for the spread of the Gospel on this platform and several other places. And to think that you have been consistent at it for years now not minding what anyone thinks or says is amazing.
The good Lord greatly reward all your efforts sir. Like a sweet smelling fragrance, the knowledge of the sacrifice of Jesus and it's eternal implications for humanity shall spread all over the world, with nothing stopping it!
Keep up the good work bro!
BTW, have you read this https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/11/the-new-covenant-in-christ-gods-promise-fulfilled.html
I'm sure you will find it edifying too!
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by unstoppable51(m): 9:35pm On Dec 21, 2019
Hismasterpiece:


The gospel is ply means good news, that is, news so good that its just too good to be true. Yes Jesus preached the Gospel. The gospel is summarized in John 3:16.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

This is the Gospel. Since the beginning when Adam sinned and died, all men too began sinning and dying . Death, which is the consequence of sin, is both being spiritually separated from God (having a sin nature while alive & eternal punishment in hell after life is over), and all miseries brought about by sin (guilt, depression, etc).

But God, not wanting to condemn the whole world to hell (God judging us is not an act of wickedness. He is a just God, and must punish sin) sent His Son to bear the consequences of the entire world's sins.

Jesus wasn't born a sinner. He never sinned and lived up to God's standard. But when Jesus hung on the cross, He took upon Himself the curse of the law, He took upon the sins of the whole world on our behalf.

What makes His sacrifice superior to all others is the fact that He was God, and He was innocent.

God condemned Jesus, so He wouldn't have to condemn us. So, if anyone puts their faith in Jesus, such a person is made part of Jesus. All His righteousness, holiness, perfection is attributed to such a person. All that persons sins will be forgiven, and no further sacrifice would be needed to appease God's wrath when such a person sins, because His wrath has been fully borne by Jesus.

Whoever believes in God will have eternal life. Eternal life, according to Jesus, is not just living forever in Heaven, but knowing and having intimacy with God the father and Jesus. John 17:2-3.

In summary, judgment has been taken on your behalf, and by believing you are made right with God.

John chapter 3 is the gospel from Jesus's perspective. The book of romans chapters 1-8 is the gospel from Paul's perspective except that Paul went deeper to explain things in detail.

Jesus wasn't talking about God forgiving us when He said forgive and you will be forgiven. What He simply meant is that we should all treat people the way we want them to treat us; we should give people what we want them to give us.

What He meant by our righteousness exceeding that of the scribes and pharisees was this: The scribes and pharisees were self-righteous and thought that they were right with God by observing the law, but as I have already said, such righteousness doesn't count before God. So, we are to have God's kind of righteousness, the one He attributes to all who believe in Him. (Believing in Jesus is the same as believing opinions God. John 12:44).

All those other things you pointed out are just His teachings. The Gospel is His birth, death and resurrection, done for our sakes, so we can all be made right with God.

My heart just warmed up with joy reading this your comment bro. This is indeed the Gospel summed up!

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(m): 10:28pm On Dec 21, 2019
unstoppable51:


Thanks a lot beloved. The Lord reward your efforts in making His Gospel known all over the world. It's not easy doing what you do for the spread of the Gospel on this platform and several other places. And to think that you have been consistent at it for years now not minding what anyone thinks or says is amazing.
The good Lord greatly reward all your efforts sir. Like a sweet smelling fragrance, the knowledge of the sacrifice of Jesus and it's eternal implications for humanity shall spread all over the world, with nothing stopping it!
Keep up the good work bro!
BTW, have you read this https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/11/the-new-covenant-in-christ-gods-promise-fulfilled.html
I'm sure you will find it edifying too!
You welcome my bro... Thanks for the encouragement... I am not bothered by the opposition and it gives me more fire to spread the true Gospel Of Christ here... People must hear the good news.. All glory to our Lord Jesus Christ. I will definitely check out the article you recommended... Thank you.

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Finallydead: 5:44am On Dec 22, 2019
unstoppable51:


Thanks a lot beloved. The Lord reward your efforts in making His Gospel known all over the world. It's not easy doing what you do for the spread of the Gospel on this platform and several other places. And to think that you have been consistent at it for years now not minding what anyone thinks or says is amazing.
The good Lord greatly reward all your efforts sir. Like a sweet smelling fragrance, the knowledge of the sacrifice of Jesus and it's eternal implications for humanity shall spread all over the world, with nothing stopping it!
Keep up the good work bro!
BTW, have you read this https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/11/the-new-covenant-in-christ-gods-promise-fulfilled.html
I'm sure you will find it edifying too!
Is it really good to not care what anyone thinks even if its scriptural, sir. Wouldn't that be pride and insubordination to the Lord?

This piece would have been a bit convincing if we had no scriptures to ourselves like in the theocratic catholic era and for simple logic that betrays it.
Unfortunately/fortunately we have a single scripture that outrightly refutes the subtle deceit here. Paul, the renowned forefront preacher of GRACE says in 1Cor5:1-5
that in order for the believer living in "sins" TO BE SAVED in the Lord's day, he would have to be sentenced to terminal affliction that subjects his flesh to satanic torment here on earth. Well why would loving grace do this, you may ask? Simple. Because if he is left to die in his "sins", he will not be saved in the Lord's day. Well how does this satanic torment help? Simple again. In a condition where your body is seriously afflicted, you are forcefully prevented from continuing in sins and the time gained is used to set your heart,soul, and mind in a right(repented) condition to enter eternity safely.
Again the preacher makes God such a weakling whose sacrifice of His very sacred blood can only take away sin nature ideologically but cannot give man freedom from sinful acts, realistically. What an un-Omnipotent God that preacher serves. But Jesus says" I, the Truth will set you free"...(Jn8:32)
And James says believing,all by itself, only puts one on the same level with demons (Jam2:17) but true faith is shown by the works you do (Jam2:18,19) and Paul says faith is evidence(something tangible and perceivable) of the unseen(Heb11:1).
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(m): 7:18am On Dec 22, 2019
Lord Jesus Christ...
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by unstoppable51(m): 7:35am On Dec 22, 2019
Finallydead:

Is it really good to not care what anyone thinks even if its scriptural, sir. Wouldn't that be pride and insubordination to the Lord?


Context sir. Look how I used the statement. Don't stretch it beyond that.
Do have yourself a beautiful Sunday sir!

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Finallydead: 8:04am On Dec 22, 2019
unstoppable51:


Context sir. Look how I used the statement. Don't stretch it beyond that.
Do have yourself a beautiful Sunday sir!
The only reason I brought you into this is cos, for some reason, you're actually my followee. Can't remember why, but maybe I thought you were a scriptural poster cos of one of your previous posts, or something. But whatever it was, I would learn today.
The point sir is, in this context, you actually give him a helping hand of encouragement even though what he posted has been outrightly refuted by the scripture(as my quoted post, you avoided, clearly showed) without correcting him, which says you also share in the guilt of encouraging the spread of falsehood, which will affect many souls, except of course, my post was unscriptural. You have every right to do so, of course, I'm not saying you can't do what you wish but I'm only bringing it to your notice. Do have a nice Sunday with this understanding too, sir!

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by airminem(f): 8:31am On Dec 22, 2019
True
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jaxxy(m): 8:33am On Dec 22, 2019
Very profound teaching
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by AlphaStorm: 8:36am On Dec 22, 2019
Lets wait and see how many nairalanders will make heaven
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Homers123(m): 8:39am On Dec 22, 2019
The person will be buried.
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by gambia(m): 8:39am On Dec 22, 2019
AlphaStorm:
Lets wait and see how many nairalanders will make heaven

grin
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by victorazyvictor(m): 8:42am On Dec 22, 2019
Daejoyoung:

How did he destroy sin? how did the death of jesus on the cross destroy sin?

Read!!!

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(m): 8:43am On Dec 22, 2019
airminem:
True
Thanks

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(m): 8:43am On Dec 22, 2019
jaxxy:
Very profound teaching
Thanks bro..
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Minjim: 8:45am On Dec 22, 2019
Daejoyoung:

How did he destroy sin? how did the death of jesus on the cross destroy sin?

You need detailed explanation.
It's beyond human comprehensive ability.
Just cos we can't comprehend it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
In due time the knowledge will unfold

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by henrybangs44(m): 8:48am On Dec 22, 2019
this is the best religious write up I have read on nairaland

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Alennsar(f): 8:51am On Dec 22, 2019
Hismasterpiece:


Jesus was God's sacrificial lamb which took away the sins of the world.

During the days of the old covenant, if someone sinned they were to sacrifice an animal, usually a lamb, goat or bull, and this sacrifice would cover their sin and secure God's forgiveness for a while, but when they sinned again, they would have to appease God's wrath by carrying out another sacrifice. Read Hebrews 9-11.

So, when Jesus hung on the cross as God's own sacrificial lamb for the sins of the entire world, He took upon God's judgment for sin and made salvation available to the whole world. His sacrifice doesn't just cover sins like the former covenant, but it takes sins away... All records of it for all who receive it.

Salvation entails righteousness, justification, forgiveness, health, peace with God, etc.

Jesus said, and all over the new testament it is reiterated that the only way to receive anything from God is by believing. He said that if anyone believes in Him, he is not condemned. John 3.

So, to answer your question, the death of Jesus doesn't make you righteous, but believing in the Gospel of Jesus (that He is the son of God, was crucified for your sins, and was resurrected to newline) is what makes you righteous in God's eyes. Romans 3. Romans 10.

The only righteousness that counts to God is His own Righteousness, the Righteousness of faith, that is, His Righteousness which is imputed to all who believe in Him. Romans 10.

Righteousness is simply being made right with God or being at peace with Him.

Satisfied?

But why did your god allow his only son to be sacrificed for others sin. I taught the Bible said the father will not bear the burden of his son sins and vice versa.
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:01am On Dec 22, 2019
unstoppable51:


My heart just warmed up with joy reading this your comment bro. This is indeed the Gospel summed up!

Praise God!

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:02am On Dec 22, 2019
Alennsar:


But why did your god allow his only son to be sacrificed for others sin. I taught the Bible said the father will not bear the burden of his son sins and vice versa.

You: Why did God allow His only son to dies for the world's sins?

Me: Because, Love! grin grin

Hallelujah!
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by eagleonearth(m): 9:08am On Dec 22, 2019
Daejoyoung:

What happened at the cross?
You destined to rot in hell because of Adam's error got rescued to spend eternity with God. You became an overcomer at the cross. Only believe
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Alennsar(f): 9:10am On Dec 22, 2019
Hismasterpiece:

You: Why did God allow His only son to dies for the world's sins?
Me: Because, Love! grin grin
Hallelujah!
What kind of love is that
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Seetto: 9:12am On Dec 22, 2019
But why will God sacrificed his only son for the sins of mofos the like of bobrisky and many more, by now Jesus will be highly disappointed for God putting him on that filthy cross to be disgracefully stripped unclad with unending floggings and castigation from people whom end up in the act of gay, prostitution, corruption, unending drug addict, rituals, fornication, adultery, homicide, murder, kidnapping, fraud, envy....etc.
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:13am On Dec 22, 2019
Alennsar:


What kind of love is that

The kind that passes all understanding.

Ephesians 3:19
[19]May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully. Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by olayemioshiyemi: 9:19am On Dec 22, 2019
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God....Hebrew 10:31
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by jiggaz(m): 9:19am On Dec 22, 2019
henrybangs44:
this is the best religious write up I have read on nairaland
Thanks bro..

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:20am On Dec 22, 2019
Seetto:
But why will God sacrificed his only son for the sins of mofos the like of bobrisky and many more, by now Jesus will be highly disappointed for God putting him on that filthy cross to be disgracefully stripped unclad with unending floggings and castigation from people whom end up in the act of gay, prostitution, corruption, unending drug addict, rituals, fornication, adultery, homicide, murder, kidnapping, fraud, envy....etc.

God did it because of love, the great love He has for all of us, not because He knew that all will take advantage of it, but because He wills and hopes that all will.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8,13
[4]Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
[5]or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.

[6]It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.
[7]Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
[8]Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

[13]Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.

2 Peter 3:9
[9]The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life


Romans 5:6-8
[6]When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners.
[7]Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good.

[8]But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

And you judging the likes of bobrisky and co are you innocent? Or don't you know that Jesus died for your sins too? And you are just as unworthy of the blood of Jesus as they all are?

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Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by souloho19(m): 9:23am On Dec 22, 2019
Daejoyoung:

You didn't answer this question in the article. How does death on the cross remove the nature of sin? l am yet to hear any explanation of this from a Christian or how this works.

Easy.
The wages of sin is death.
Christ died to pay the price of our sinful nature. He died and went to hell (Seoul) and resurrected on the 3rd day.
The cross is also symbolic based on other prophesies in the old testament. Like the case with the serpent on the cross that saved the isrealites when they gazed on it.
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Seetto: 9:27am On Dec 22, 2019
Hismasterpiece:


God did it because of love, the great love He has for all of us, not because He knew that all will take advantage of it, but because He wills and hopes that all will.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8,13
[4]Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
[5]or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.

[6]It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.
[7]Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
[8]Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

[13]Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.

2 Peter 3:9
[9]The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life


Romans 5:6-8
[6]When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners.
[7]Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good.

[8]But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

And you judging the likes of bobrisky and co are you innocent? Or don't you know that Jesus died for your sins too? And you are just as unworthy of the blood of Jesus as they all are?

The fact that you see someone committing sins, you shouldn't speak against it so that you will not be termed hypocrite, I think you need serious flogging,
If you died and found yourself in hell fire, Jesus sacrifice on the cross is useless.
Re: What Happens When A Believer "Dies In Sin"? A Biblical Exposition Of What Sin Is by Seetto: 9:32am On Dec 22, 2019
Hismasterpiece:


God did it because of love, the great love He has for all of us, not because He knew that all will take advantage of it, but because He wills and hopes that all will.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8,13
[4]Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
[5]or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.

[6]It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.
[7]Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
[8]Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!

[13]Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.

2 Peter 3:9
[9]The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life


Romans 5:6-8
[6]When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners.
[7]Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good.

[8]But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

And you judging the likes of bobrisky and co are you innocent? Or don't you know that Jesus died for your sins too? And you are just as unworthy of the blood of Jesus as they all are?

I am not judging bobrisky, he has already judged himself, I am afraid he became a bad influence to many young people, this your irrational thinking is the reason why things are getting out of hand.

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