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What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 11:31am On Dec 19, 2021 |
Happy Sunday Nairalanders Well, am sure we all are aware of the Bible verse that says "the wages of sin is death" But to my knowledge,I find out that all humans must die and even some wicked people we know still live longer than the ones we call saints. Sometimes, you will see some wicked people live so long till old age before they die and you will also see some kind hearted people dying young. If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it Please any one with good knowledge should explain.Thanks 8 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by itsme01: 11:34am On Dec 19, 2021 |
Only God knows who is truly wicked, forget about illusions 23 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by lomprico(m): 11:35am On Dec 19, 2021 |
The price to pay for your sins is death unless u repent. Modified; The death here is spiritual death not physical. Everyone will die the physical death be you good or evil and if u die in sin you will be condemned to damnation (the kind of death the passage talked about) 9 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Amotolongbo(f): 11:39am On Dec 19, 2021 |
itsme01:wickedness is defined and we all know what it is. Any act which is against love and detrimental to one’s neighbor and can’t be done to oneself is wickedness. Neighbor here can be sibs, parents, relatives, friends or anyone 45 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 11:41am On Dec 19, 2021 |
lomprico:You will still die one day either you repent or not 15 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Hashabiah: 11:51am On Dec 19, 2021 |
Solofresh2:The bible says in 2Peter3:9 that the Lord is patient and longsuffering ; not wanting anyone to perish. In fact, if you read through the Old Testament, you'll see that it took over 400 years for God to bring judgment on the Canaanites who practiced child sacrifices and idolatry . This is clear proof that God is someone who chooses to give an extended period of grace so that all(including the wicked ) may come to repentance 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by itsme01: 12:23pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
Amotolongbo: Some people misjudged as saints are sometimes more wicked than the ones we know to be wicked 9 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Dtruthspeaker: 12:34pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
itsme01: You already said the Magic word "misjudged". So we require Proper and True Judgement! 2 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Dtruthspeaker: 12:39pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
Solofresh2: Did you not hear that the wicked must eat the fruits of their wickedness? So they have to live to see and eat their destruction before they Die! 4 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Amotolongbo(f): 12:42pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
itsme01:There is a place of conscience. Moreover, one can’t be good to all and one can never be wicked to all 3 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by lomprico(m): 12:46pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
Solofresh2: It's not the normal death but condemnation in hell fire. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by sonmvayina(m): 12:57pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
You commit crime, a court of competent jurisdiction can sentence you to death.. |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by IfIPerishIPeris: 1:03pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
Sin kills you Spiritually, and Guarantees you Destruction and Death in Hell. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Emusan(m): 12:24am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2: Truly there more to it but only if you can start the reading from previous chapters especially 5. I'll quote some part of chapter 5 to shield more light on it. Firstly, as you rightly asked "why do we believe everyone will still die?" Apostle Paul who wrote that "The wages of sin is death" also knows this fact you pointed out as can be seen in verse 12 Secondly, Now why is it that the wages of sin is death? This can also be seen from chapter 5. Pay attention to the @underlined key words 9 "...we will also be kept safe from God’s anger." Adam and Christ 12 Adam sinned, and that sin brought death into the world. Now everyone has sinned, and so everyone must die...In some ways Adam is like Christ who came later. 15 But the gift that God was kind enough to give was very different from Adam’s sin. That one sin brought death to many others... 16 There is a lot of difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gift. 18 Everyone was going to be punished because Adam sinned. But because of the good thing that Christ has done, God accepts us and gives us the gift of life. 19 Adam disobeyed God and caused many others to be sinners. But Jesus obeyed him and will make many people acceptable to God." In conclusion, you can see that everyone was going to be punished as a result of Adam's sin. So this punishment is death though not only physical death but also going into nonexistent state of man but the Gift of Christ made God accepted us back that is giving us another chance to live instead of going into a state of nonexistent. So if we continue to allow sin to reign in us and refuse to accept the gift that Christ paid for, we'll get DEATH as the gift of sin. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 1:48am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2:Death is as defined by God in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22, God's judgement and curse on unbelievers since the fall of Adam and Eve. In God's Old Covenant, the wages of sin is indeed Death - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 - but in God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, God gifts all, sinners and saints alike, with eternal life , this to all those who sign up to accept Jesus Christ.- John 3 vs 16 - 21 About the wicked, God didn't say they will die before you of anything like that. Stop listening to the stories your Pastors and mogs feed you with.. . They are nothing but lies. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is promised long life and God does not kill your enemies so... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 3:22am On Dec 20, 2021 |
itsme01:That is not true. Jesus Christ at least taught His followers to know those who belong to Him from those who don't. He said by their fruits, you shall know them. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 3:25am On Dec 20, 2021 |
lomprico:Not in Jesus Christ! Death is the penalty for sinners of the Old Covenant Law of Moses- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. However, in the New Covenant, even the sinners have eternal life gifted them, only it will be spent in damnation at the end. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by lomprico(m): 7:43am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: That is the death! |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 8:25am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I just want to know why the Bible said that because, everyone is gonna die |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 8:34am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Emusan:So what you are trying to say now is that, anyone that sin will not live anymore in the spirit but anyone in Christ will live forever? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 12:59pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
lomprico:No, It isn't. |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 1:00pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2:Why the Bible said what? Where? |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 1:22pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Why the Bible said the wages of sin is death, knowing fully well that every one will die |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by lomprico(m): 1:26pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: It is |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 1:26pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2:Paul wrote that in his letters which is primarily addressed to his audience of primarily Jewish believers in Rome. Paul is not Jesus Christ or God who you should instead be more focused on though. |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 1:30pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:So are you saying it is not true or we should not believe that "the wages of sin is death" ? |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 1:33pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2:I already explained it to you... Death as the wages of sin is of the Old Covenant - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 In God's New Covenant, however, Death is not the wages of sin, instead eternal damnation is - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 1 Like |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 2:54pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Okay I want to ask you something, don't be annoyed Are you a man or a Woman |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Kobojunkie: 2:59pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Solofresh2:What does gender have to do with the topic abeg? |
Re: What Does "The Wages Of Sin Is Death" Really Means by Solofresh2: 3:11pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I know it has nothing to do with the topic I just want to know |
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