MrPresident1:


You probably have noticed that I don't argue so much on the forum. I only made an exception for you.

The path has been pointed to you to begin your journey.

Goodluck!

ZiriMane:


Educate me, how did the present Hebraic race migrate into the present day land of Isreal? since you claim this present race of Isrealis where not the original dwellers. In Australia there are evidences of the indigenous Australians, (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders), in America there are evidences of the presence of people that originally inhabited the land the Native Americans even in Egypt there is still the presence of dark skinned Egyptians check this link www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+skin+egyptian&id=BDCFA63E4242928F44C61662699962786A7AD358&FORM=IQFRBA . Other than the Ethiopian Jews which other group of Israelis are dark skinned? and where did the original dark skinned dwellers migrate to?

OkCornel:


You mean the same scientists that believe humans originated from Africa rather than the Garden of Eden in the Middle East?


Do you also believe humanity started from Africa? I just want to be very sure you are not cherry picking facts to bolster your argument.

In addition, can you provide us with evidence of two black parents that birthed a generation of white kids in recent times to support your argument?

Scottallen:


What scripture are you talking about? You paint the scripture to suit your imagination and narrative. The old Israelites knew the Egyptians. They were never the same. Soon, you would claim the Greeks, the Phonecians (otherwise called Lebanese), the Persians, Assyrians and other ancient people. God made each to their own kind. We in this part of the world have nothing to do with Ancient Egypt.

The Bejas, Nubians, Dinkas, the many tribes of Northern Sudan and some tribes of Southern Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia, Ethiopia, these are the ones that have some link with Ancient Egypt.

However, ancient Egyptians themselves were not the same with the Ancient Hebrews. The ancient Hebrews were olive skinned as can still be seen in the surrounding environment till this day

khia:


As you know the ancient Egyptians were black, can you explain to me how Joseph, Paul, Moses, and your baby Jesus were mistaken to be Egyptians? How did they blend in with the Egyptian people?

OkCornel:
By the way, the Syrians (Aramites), Iranians (Persians or Elamites), Turks (Lydians), Assyrians, Chaldeans were and are still olive skinned people occupying the middle east today. These Semitic races are closely related to the Jews, these people were never known to be blacks.

But certain people who would rather settle for lies will still propagate falsehood that the Jews are or were once blacks. What manner of stupid lies are these?

OkCornel:


Lol, which fact?

Black, brown and red? Lmao.


Brown I know, black and red? Na you sabi that one...

Bring source and evidence , na lie. And you’re claiming to be enlightened? This is a joke

Scottallen:


Like I said the Ancient Hebrews were olive skinned with a little black admixture. The ancient Egyptians have the color of the Eritreans, Ethiopians and Somalians. The Nubians are still there in lower Egypt.

I maintain that we West Africans have nothing to do with Ancient Egypt or Isreal.

Scottallen:


Like I said the Ancient Hebrews were olive skinned with a little black admixture. The ancient Egyptians have the color of the Eritreans, Ethiopians and Somalians. The Nubians are still there in lower Egypt.

I maintain that we West Africans have nothing to do with Ancient Egypt or Isreal.

khia:


The ancient Hebrews were not an admixture of anything, they were a pure dark skin people. God forbid them to mix with other nations. West Africans aren't the only people with very dark skin, some Ethiopians and Somalies are darker than west Africans.

PS.. In case you didn't know it the middle east was part of Africa before the 20th century.

Scottallen:


Lies and illusion! I have nothing to argue with you. Keep believing your own lies! Christianity and Islam brought about all these bullshit. No one wants to be African anymore.

It is hilarious!

OkCornel:


Is the goal post shifting from Jesus is black to Jesus is dark skinned?

Lmao, Jesus was a dark skinned person abi? But the following Semitic races (Turks, Syrians, Persians, Armenians etc) are not blacks ba?

Ever still wondered if Jeremiah 13 v 23 still means anything to you.

23 Can the Ethiopian change HIS SKIN, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.


Why wasn’t the Hebrews or any other Middle Eastern race used as a point of reference if indeed the Semitic race is as dark as the Ethiopians (Cushites)?

khia:


I'm neither christian nor Islamic, I don't even believe in religion, I just love history. What have I lied about? Are these statements lies?

1. Some Ethiopians and Somalis are darker than West Africans.

2. The Ancient Egyptians were black people.

3. The middle East was considered part of the African continent before the 20th century.

Stating facts about the ancient Hebrews has nothing to do with not wanting to be African. Where did you come up with that bullshit?

khia:


The ancient Hebrews were not an admixture of anything, they were a pure dark skin people. God forbid them to mix with other nations. West Africans aren't the only people with very dark skin, some Ethiopians and Somalies are darker than west Africans.

PS.. In case you didn't know it the middle east was part of Africa before the 20th century.

khia:


I'm neither christian nor Islamic, I don't even believe in religion, I just love history. What have I lied about? Are these statements lies?

1. Some Ethiopians and Somalis are darker than West Africans.

2. The Ancient Egyptians were black people.

3. The middle East was considered part of the African continent before the 20th century.

Stating facts about the ancient Hebrews has nothing to do with not wanting to be African. Where did you come up with that bullshit?

mysticwarrior:
moses wife was a dark skin woman different from the hebrews who left Egypt, and she was reffered to as a kushite woman, the ancient Hebrews were not pure dark skin people as you claim.

OkCornel:


Smh, I’ve worked and I’m still working with people of different nationalities (middle easterners inclusive)

So guy, your advice is dead on arrival. Scream from now till eternity, the Hebrews and by extension the Semitic race are not blacks. Deal with it.

khia:


You are going by the modern people not the ancient ones. I bet you can find very dark skin descendants of those ancient people you named in those countries.

OkCornel:


In addition, please let them explain why the Jewish prophet Jeremiah was fascinated by the skin of the Cushites (Ethiopians)

Jeremiah 13 v 23;
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Scottallen:


Majority of Somalians are not darker than the average West African. The Bejas, and Nubians are still in upper Sudan and lower Egypt. Those are the ones who share similar history with the ancient Egyptians.

The ancient Egyptians were Black people but there were different from West Africans or Bantu or Congloids. They painted themselves on the walls. They have a skin color different from thr Nubians. However, they were still black. The Nubians were darker. Nobody cared about skin color in those days. Africa is vast. We have never been one people. Each region has its own kind of people

The Middle East has never been part of Africa unless in antiquity. The gulf of Aden has always been there. Also, the sinai peninsula has always been there.

Before the advent of Islam and Christianity, we West Africans never had all these bogus stories of origin from the Middle East. It all boils down to religion. You have been affected by the lies subconsciously.

Embrace your root! You are from here in West Africa and the surrounding regions and no place more!

CaveAdullam:
Although I'm learning, not knowledgeable alot about this topic, but when I was at the concluding part of the book of Lamentations yesterday morning I came across this;

4:8-9
NIV:Their princes were brighter than snow and whiter than milk, their bodies more ruddy than rubies, their appearance like lapis lazuli.

NIV:But now they are blacker than soot; they are not recognized in the streets. Their skin has shriveled on their bones; it has become as dry as a stick.

5:10
NIV:Our skin is hot as an oven, feverish from hunger.

Any inference at all?

OkCornel:


Same way I can find albinos in Africa (albinism cuts across most races too though), which doesn’t mean a damn thing.

Now back to the matter on ground. If Semitic people were once blacks, what happened to the entire Middle Eastern nations over the past 2,000 years that changed their complexion to what it is today?

1) Lud (Lydians/Turks)
2) Aram (Syrians)
3) Arphaxad (Chaldeans/Iraqis)
4) Asshur (Assyrians)
5) Elam (Persians/Iranians and parts of Iraq)

Were these people blacks too?


I would appreciate historical evidences. Thanks.

khia:


Like I said some of those descendants are still there and they are still black. You being a black man you know how hard it is to keep your pe.nis out of non black puna. Interracial marriages existed back then and wiped out the aboriginals just as the pure black race in Brazil was basically wiped out because of interracial sex.

OkCornel:


Good morning bro.

If you check, I’ve always maintained the middle easterners were olive skinned. Olive skinned people have the tendency to tan and get darker (note, not black) under harsh conditions as shown in Lamentations 4 v 8-9.

When conditions get better, they revert to their former state.

Up till now, I’ve been asking why and how the Semitic races in the Middle East aren’t blacks if their ancestors were so. No answer.

CaveAdullam:
i guess it is an additional evidence to the ones you have at hand.

mysticwarrior:
moses wife was a dark skin woman different from the hebrews who left Egypt, and she was reffered to as a kushite woman, the ancient Hebrews were not pure dark skin people as you claim.

OkCornel:


Not sure I understand, as per evidence to the Jews were blacks?

khia:


Where in any of my posts did I say they were west Africans? Your problem is you cant separate west Africans from other black people. The Aboriginals of Australia are darker than west Africans, the native Indians in India are darker than a lot of west Africans, some Egyptians are darker than west Africans yet they aren't west Africans and they are black .

Do some good research and you will find that the middle East was once part of the African continent until it was changed by you know who (whites)in the 20th century. There is no shame in admitting that you were wrong the shame is in continuing your ignorance.

mysticwarrior:
the ancient Egyptians are of dark skin people similar to those in Sudan,Eritrea, Somalia and Ethiopia, but they are not of the same race as the people of west Africa, west Africans are negroes and those people are not.

Scottallen:


I'm tired of arguing with you. You can claim the whole world is black. It changes nothing.

Peace!

mysticwarrior:
the ancient Egyptians are of dark skin people similar to those in Sudan,Eritrea, Somalia and Ethiopia, but they are not of the same race as the people of west Africa, west Africans are negroes and those people are not.