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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 8:37pm On Dec 28, 2019
khia:


The Hebrews were not and are not Caucasian.

I wonder how at this day and age, at this point in the evolution of knowledge, anyone can still be thinking that Jesus is a white guy, I'm like, what d fxxk shocked

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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khia: 8:39pm On Dec 28, 2019
PrecisionFx:





''"Bill gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Benjamin Netanyahu, Roman Abrahamovic""

Dont be senseless Bro. These men u listed are white European caucasian men, they dont look like middle eastern in anyway. They are white Europeans, the same found in Germany, France, Great Britain n Russia.

Now read n learn...

Bill gates is an american jew.
Roman Abrahimovich is a Russian Jew.
Benjamin Netanyahu is a European Jew.
Zuckerberg is an American jew.

Theres a huge difference between a Hebrew and a jew. A hebrew is someone who comes from the lineage of bible Israelites while a Jew is simply anyone that practices Judaism as a religion. That's why u have Chinese jew, japanese jew, american jew, Russian jew, Spanish jew, Arab Jew, etc.





""It would interest you to know that Israel identifies herself as an European nation""

Israel of today are free to identify with any continent they like, it's all bull crap. Goan read history like I said and also goan read ur world map. In the world map, Israel is located in Africa.....

150 years ago, israel was said to be in Africa

Later they became Asians.

Today they are Europeans, LMFAO.










Now clear ur ignorance by reading this book Authored by Henry Ford, The progenitor of Ford Company. The Book is called *The International Jew*...


Bravo!!!!!

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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:01pm On Dec 28, 2019
MrPresident1:


1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall notprevent them which are asleep.


If you understood this verse, you would go on to undestand that Jesus is a fully melanated darkskinned person

Guy, your case is beyond reasoning. What connection does the second coming have to do with Jesus being black?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
I wonder how at this age and time people would allow themselves to be mentally swindled into thinking Jesus was a black man. What a shameless and blatant lie.

No one is claiming Jesus is white. If Arabs don’t qualify to be called “whites” or those from the ancient Semitic stock as same. Obviously they aren’t whites either!
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by MrPresident1: 10:40pm On Dec 28, 2019
OkCornel:
I wonder how at this age and time people would allow themselves to be mentally swindled into thinking Jesus was a black man. What a shameless and blatant lie.

No one is claiming Jesus is white. If Arabs don’t qualify to be called “whites” or those from the ancient Semitic stock as same. Obviously they aren’t whites either!


Ancient Assyrians, ancient mesopotamians, what complexion were they?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 10:50pm On Dec 28, 2019
MrPresident1:


Ancient Assyrians, ancient mesopotamians, what complexion were they?
Like their Arab descendants occupying the very same Middle Eastern region today!

Arabs are not whites! Neither are they blacks!
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Commando8: 11:31pm On Dec 28, 2019
MrPresident1:


Shame. One day, you will know that those dates are roadmarks. Critical time and route markers that helped to track prophecy as it fulfilled and unfolded.

I am expecting too much from mere mortals at this time. When Christ returns, we will have this discussion again


Simple!
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by khiaa(f): 11:52pm On Dec 28, 2019
ZiriMane:

If Benjamin Netanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel is not Israeli then it would also be safe to say Vladimir Putin is not Russian or rather Queen Elizabeth is not British.

Anyway, what do I know¿...Sincerely, you could be right.

Well to answer your question you don't know much about this topic. If you take an African lion out of Africa and bring it to Japan is it no longer an African lion? Those so-called white Israelis are originally from Europe.

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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:05am On Dec 29, 2019
ZiriMane:

Please, can you give me another reference other than any of Henry Ford's work? It's pretty much clear this texts were published for their Anti-Semitic purposes and therefore would undermine the Jewish race in all its entirety

Have u read the book? Facts speaks for itself and once u start reading facts, even ur common sense will guide u correctly, there's nothing like Anti semitism here.

Henry Ford didn't write the book, he publicly employed the services of very reputable Archeologists n Historians to research, find n gather evidence and write the book.



Common sense is quite common does Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Roman Abramovich look in anyway like the people living in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq or Syria ?? How can a clear white caucasian man with white silky hair come from around Egypt while ALL Egyptians as at 2019 are either black, brown or red...think, think think.

This is basic social studies.





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It is a well known fact that the 2nd president of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser said that the hebrews left hebrews as blacks and retained as whites.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:16am On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:
I wonder how at this age and time people would allow themselves to be mentally swindled into thinking Jesus was a black man. What a shameless and blatant lie.

No one is claiming Jesus is white. If Arabs don’t qualify to be called “whites” or those from the ancient Semitic stock as same. Obviously they aren’t whites either!



""No one is claiming Jesus is white""

Where did u pick up this nonsense from
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:19am On Dec 29, 2019
ZiriMane:

If Benjamin Netanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel is not Israeli then it would also be safe to say Vladimir Putin is not Russian or rather Queen Elizabeth is not British.

Anyway, what do I know¿...Sincerely, you could be right.


The president or prime minister of Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA are all foreigners, they are white Europeans who conquered n sized those countries by the barrels of a gun.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 12:21am On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:
This thread is laughable to be honest. If only the black race were truly aware of the achievements of their ancestors, they wouldn’t be dragging and claiming if the Jews were black or if blacks were Jews.

From the glory of the Bini Kingdom, to the amazing mastery of astrology by the Dogon tribe in Mali, to the achievements of King Mansa Musa of that same Malian empire, to the wealth of the Ashanti empire. Or is it the kingdom of Cush (ancient Ethiopia), or the mysterious but yet enchanting Nok Culture in sub-Saharan Africa.


Many other countless achievements lost to the sands of time in terms of knowledge and spirituality, yet people are here trying to validate the black race by claiming they were ancient Jews with outright lies and anomalies.

Smh, ignorance and identity crises.






Whatever our ancestors achieved in the past isn't a reason why lies about who the hebrews truly should be swept under the carpet
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:57am On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:







Whatever our ancestors achieved in the past isn't a reason why lies about who the hebrews truly should be swept under the carpet
So who were the Hebrews? Blacks?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:01am On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:



""No one is claiming Jesus is white""

Where did u pick up this nonsense from

Clarify yourself please. I need to be sure you ain’t putting words in my mouth.

Read my posts carefully and check if I ever claimed Jesus was a white man.

Can anyone in their right senses claim middle easterners are whites? Or blacks? Do Arabs for example classify as whites? Are Semitic peoples classified as white or black?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:14am On Dec 29, 2019
There is absolutely no evidence that the Jew’s had black skin, not that it would matter, but we must restrict our findings based upon what the Bible says and not speculation or conjecture. There are also no reliable extra-biblical sources or even secular historical sources that say that Jesus was black. Hebrews likely had olive-colored skin, not black or white as some pictures falsely showed Christ to be. Matthew was written to the Jewish Christians who could see that Jesus was clearly the prophesied Messiah that would be this Promised Seed of Abraham (Gen 12:3) and the descendant (son) of David.


Jesus’ Ethnicity
There is little doubt that since Jesus was born a Jew He had to have the attributes of other Jews and there is no recorded historical accounts of black Jews in His time, however there were black Jews who had converted to Judaism but that is no reason to believe that Jesus was black. The descendants of Abraham all had olive colored skin with a light brown complexion just as do all Jews around the world today, no matter what part of the world they live in. Hebrews 7:14 clearly states that “it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests” (Heb 7:14). Jesus being from Nazareth and being a Galilean meant that He was easily identifiable as to where He came from, just like Peter was (Matt 26:69).


Are There Black Jews?
Since Israel is so close to Africa, it is very possible that some of the Jews expelled by the Rome from Judea traveled to and lived in Africa. Some of the Jews could easily have intermarried with blacks but this has nothing to do with Jesus’ ethnicity and His being 100% Jewish by lineage (Matt 1). Some so-called Black Hebrews claim that they are descendants of the Jews and it is possible since some may have intermarried, there could be some but those of the nation of Israel originally were all ethnic Jews.


Even today there are blacks that claim that they are of Jewish descent and they practice very ancient Jewish customs but it is not whether they have Jewish blood in them but whether they are true, 100% descendants of the biblical Hebrews.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2014/06/12/was-jesus-black-what-race-was-jesus-christ/
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:20am On Dec 29, 2019
ETHNICITY AND RACE - SEMITIC PEOPLE;

In the racialist classifications of Carleton S. Coon, the Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race, not dissimilar in appearance to the neighbouring Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, and Kartvelian-speaking peoples of the region. As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the religions (ancient Semitic and Abrahamic) and Semitic-speaking ethnicities as well as the history of these varied cultures as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution.

Some recent genetic studies have found (by analysis of the DNA of Semitic-speaking peoples) that they have some common ancestry. Although no significant common mitochondrial results have been found, Y-chromosomal links between Semitic-speaking peoples of the Middle East like Arabs, Jews, Mandaeans, Samaritans, and Assyrians/Syriacs have shown links, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron).

A DNA study of "six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev)" found that Jews were more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors.

Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians/Syriacs, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have a common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 2:23pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:

Henry Ford didn't write the book, he publicly employed the services of very reputable Archeologists n Historians to research, find n gather evidence and write the book.
The way you are talking I'm kinda feeling you've read the book but don't know when a thing is Anti-Semitic. International Jews by Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications that highlighted hatred for the Jews which in some way influenced the Holocaust. It was purely Anti-Semitic to me.
PrecisionFx:

Common sense is quite common does Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Roman Abramovich look in anyway like the people living in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq or Syria ?? How can a clear white caucasian man with white silky hair come from around Egypt while ALL Egyptians as at 2019 are either black, brown or red...think, think think.
I never mentioned these names as from anywhere that you just mentioned. These names you mentioned all have Jewish ties and they are white. However, ancient Hebrews may not necessarily be caucasians but they wer'nt black either.
PrecisionFx:

It is a well known fact that the 2nd president of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser said that the hebrews left hebrews as blacks and retained as whites.
Take no offence, although I've been rating you high a bit of late with your arguments but after this your statement I just kinda felt you've only just wanted to be regarded as an intellectual.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by ZiriMane(m): 3:02pm On Dec 29, 2019
khiaa:


Well to answer your question you don't know much about this topic. If you take an African lion out of Africa and bring it to Japan is it no longer an African lion? Those so-called white Israelis are originally from Europe.

Educate me, how did the present Hebraic race migrate into the present day land of Isreal? since you claim this present race of Isrealis where not the original dwellers. In Australia there are evidences of the indigenous Australians, (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders), in America there are evidences of the presence of people that originally inhabited the land the Native Americans even in Egypt there is still the presence of dark skinned Egyptians check this link www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+skin+egyptian&id=BDCFA63E4242928F44C61662699962786A7AD358&FORM=IQFRBA . Other than the Ethiopian Jews which other group of Israelis are dark skinned? and where did the original dark skinned dwellers migrate to?
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:10pm On Dec 29, 2019
ZiriMane:

The way you are talking I'm kinda feeling you've read the book but don't know when a thing is Anti-Semitic. International Jews by Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications that highlighted hatred for the Jews which in some way influenced the Holocaust. It was purely Anti-Semitic to me.
I never mentioned these names as from anywhere that you just mentioned. These names you mentioned all have Jewish ties and they are white. However, ancient Hebrews may not necessarily be caucasians but they wer'nt black either.
Take no offence, although I've been rating you high a bit of late with your arguments but after this your statement I just kinda felt you've only just wanted to be regarded as an intellectual.




"Henry Ford was a collection from his personally owned Newspaper publications""

This is a very daft submission, I didn't read beyond dis line.

Cure ur own ignorance wen u choose to.

Good day cheesy
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:


Clarify yourself please. I need to be sure you ain’t putting words in my mouth.

Read my posts carefully and check if I ever claimed Jesus was a white man.

Can anyone in their right senses claim middle easterners are whites? Or blacks? Do Arabs for example classify as whites? Are Semitic peoples classified as white or black?

Middle easterners are reddish n black.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Dec 29, 2019
lilianofentse:
so that means the Hebrews were negroids. Pls clarify

Yes they were,remember the story of Moses of as a baby?the wife of the king found him in a basket floating on the river and she took him to the palace and raised him as theirs.That story alone suggests that Moses was a dark skin man for the king and others to have accepted him as one of theirs means he must have looked like them and secondly remember that the Israel of today was created in 1948 and those Caucasians there are the results of Hitler action in Germany and Europe and the European evaders always try to exterminate the indigenous people e.g Australia,America and Argentina etc killed most of the blacks and it was normal and acceptable in those days.

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Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:52pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Middle easterners are reddish n black.


Source and basis?

According to you, Semitic people were/are reddish and black?

I dey wait, please share your source and evidences.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:


Source and basis?

According to you, Semitic people were/are reddish and black?

I dey wait, please share your source and evidences.


Which source do u want? Will u cook stew with it? Go to the middle east and find out the color of the people that have lived there for ages, that's the color of the hebrews
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 7:56pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:



Which source do u want? Will u cook stew with it? Go to the middle east and find out the color of the people that have lived there for ages, that's the color of the hebrews

Never knew you were joking all this while. undecided

Middle easterners were/are reddish and black indeed.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:04pm On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:

So who were the Hebrews? Blacks?

Black, Brown, Red.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:07pm On Dec 29, 2019
OLIVE SKIN;

Olive skin is a human skin color spectrum. It is often associated with pigmentation in the Type III to Type IV and Type V ranges of the Fitzpatrick scale. It generally refers to light or moderate brown, brownish, or tannish skin, and it is often described as having yellowish, greenish, or golden undertones.

People with olive skin can sometimes become more pale if their sun exposure is limited. Lighter olive skin tans more easily than does fair skin, and generally still retains notable yellow or greenish undertones.

Geographic distribution

Type III pigmentation is frequent among populations from parts of the Mediterranean, Asia, and Latin America. It ranges from cream to darker olive skin tones. This skin type sometimes mildly burns and tans gradually, but always tans.

Type IV pigmentation is frequent among populations from the Mediterranean, as well as parts of Asia and Latin America. It ranges from brownish or darker olive to moderate brown, typical Mediterranean skin tones. This skin type rarely burns and tans easily.

Type V pigmentation is frequent among populations from the Middle East, parts of the Mediterranean, parts of Africa, Latin America, and the Indian subcontinent. It ranges from oliveto tan, Middle Eastern skin tones. This skin type very rarely burns and tans quite easily.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin




Jesus is black crew, the above article should clear up the ignorance y’all displaying. Read this slowly and carefully, before jumping into lies to fuel your fantasies.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Black, Brown, Red.

Add some purple as well.
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:


Add some purple as well.

Pink n light green too
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 29, 2019
OkCornel:


Never knew you were joking all this while. undecided

Middle easterners were/are reddish and black indeed.

Cure ur ignorance wen ur ready.

The middle easterners are black, brown n red, it's a known fact
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:12pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Cure ur ignorance wen ur ready.

The middle easterners are black, brown n red, it's a known fact

Lol, which fact?

Black, brown and red? Lmao.


Brown I know, black and red? Na you sabi that one...

Bring source and evidence , na lie. And you’re claiming to be enlightened? This is a joke
Re: Are Hebrews Really Black People ? by OkCornel(m): 9:13pm On Dec 29, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Pink n light green too

Please add indigo and blue as well cheesy

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