Hefy4real:



Not needed. Forums like this is never the best way to teach the truth. No matter how reasonable you sound, you’ll only be speaking into the air. @Deandean gave a very reasonable answer but they’ll all avoid it like a plague

Hefy4real:



Not needed. Forums like this is never the best way to teach the truth. No matter how reasonable you sound, you’ll only be speaking into the air. @Deandean gave a very reasonable answer but they’ll all avoid it like a plague

Masking:


Which book? The bible or JW publications?
Cos neither does. This screenshot is from this weeks meeting.

If the bible were truly written by ancient men, and not by inspiration from God(2timothy 3:16), how were the writers in the olden days able to decipher those scientifically proven truths recorded in job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22?? Cos even hundreds of years after, people still thought the earth was flat and being held by 2 turtles.

Masking:

I still dont get how the bible supports genocide/slavery? Are you talking about warfare in isreal?

Cos the bible clearly shows d law was only a tutor, but you are now under grace, d law of christ

Chi59:

Here's another f.ool.
You are at liberty to believe whatsoever you want to so long as it doesn't affect another person's life. Period.

Deandean:


Smiling....mention that one we championed that is band my brother..
But to tickle your fancy,i will set u straight.hyperbilirubinemia is just excess bilirubin in the blood,leave English,bilirubin is a byproduct of breakdown of blood cells and shld be removed from the body.but when a new baby is unable to do so itself,it leads to hyperbilirunemia or jaundice.
Now in your house,when your gutter is not flowing,and the water stinks.do u pack the stinking water n pump in fresh clean ones or do you unblock the flow .
Blood transfusion does not treat the underlying cause of jaundice my friend,it doesn't fix liver malfunction,it doesn't fix Rh disease,breatfeeding failures and other causes of hyperbilirubinemia.transfusion is treating a symptom while watching the cause, no wonder transfused children re often brought for more transfusion in the future.
Now explore modern medicine in phototherapy,fiber optic blankets,the six months exclusive breastfeeding program, liver malfunction and Rh disease treatment etc,this is how modern medicine tackle the causes not the symptoms.i have not mentioned the risk factors associated with transfusion yet.it could update your knowledge sir...meanwhile,do you even know why OJB jezreel eventually died after his transplant?...many many things this lazy,greedy doctors hide from us my brother...make informed decision for yourself and loved ones

Masking:


Jehovahs witnesses follow the instructions in the bible to the letter.

In situations where science/man made laws are at variance with God's law law, what gives??

On the issues of fractions, which of Jah's laws is it at variance with? For that reason man, it becomes a matter of conscience. Do you understand?

On the issue of fornication fractions, maybe if you identified the fractions, i can tell you what d bible says

Hairyrapunzel:


Exchange blood transfusion. Remove the baby's blood and put donors blood simple.

When you don't know ask. No be only phototherapy or fibre optics or exclusive breastfeeding for 6months in a newborn.

You guys are just psychopaths. No wonder JW doctors never go into paediatrics cos they are potential baby killers

ableguy:

You are very correct my brother, one is even exposed empty apostates and those who plainly hate and mock jws

Hefy4real:


Do not mind them. They only want the best alternative treatment available without the use of blood. Just because you do not know that alternatives exist does not make them killers. In fact bloodless surgery is considered to be the best by surgeons and doctors the world over. If you are a surgeon or doctor in Nigeria and you are not in the know, it is understandable �. We all know what syllabus is used to teach us. But never reject advanced medical directives if you want to grow in a medical field.
No pressure and no forcing of my beliefs on you �

Hefy4real:


Do not mind them. They only want the best alternative treatment available without the use of blood. Just because you do not know that alternatives exist does not make them killers. In fact bloodless surgery is considered to be the best by surgeons and doctors the world over. If you are a surgeon or doctor in Nigeria and you are not in the know, it is understandable �. We all know what syllabus is used to teach us. But never reject advanced medical directives if you want to grow in a medical field.
No pressure and no forcing of my beliefs on you �

Hairyrapunzel:


Ok tell us the alternatives that exist when doctors have told you that only ebt is the option?

Hairyrapunzel:


Gods word is not for debate but you quote secular sources when you want to accept blood fractions/components gotten from blood donated by worldly people. Lol

Hefy4real:


To be frank, i really do not hate you or view you as less intelligent than i am. It can be quite shocking or weird to just accept change even when it is the best
If only your questions are genuine, i would have answered you beyond your wildest imaginations with proofs and references from more qualified practitioners who our politicians all run to to seek the best treatment. I know you will reject them because you feel you’ve known it all. Peace out fellow

DavidEsq:

U haven't answered my questions, oga ITK

Funkybabee:
That's serious



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Originalsly:
When the FG tramples on our belief.... I hope we will remember it is us who supported them to do so in the first place.
The baby was jaundiced. That is what the FG needed to investigate. Who made that diagnosis? If there is such a thing.... is itit an immediate threat to life?... is blood transfusion the emergency treatment?... not in the medical field... but never ever heard of people with jaundice having to undergo blood transfusion. What if the baby dies as a result if the blood transfusion?....would the hospital be blaming the death on jaundice? I hope that should any medical issue arise from the forced transfusion... that JW worldwide should use their resources to sue separately the hospital... the FG and the individuals involved.

DavidEsq:

I witnessed a blood transfusion given to a baby over 3 times. The result was that the child began to jerk violently. The child was later referred elsewhere. Even medical practitioners of high repute would tell u that blood transfusion is not the best treatment for patients who even need it.

DavidEsq:

So there is no specific scripture where blood transfusion or use is condemned? Hence use of blood in this manner can be categorized as works that accompany faith. Is that what u are explaining?

jibovico:
Good and Courageous parents who stood for their beliefs no matter what. May Jehovah reward your stand. Most times we watch movies and always align with the character who stood for his/her beliefs and we applaud. Why don't we now apply such? Well done Faithful parents.

Hairyrapunzel:


You never asked any question. Mr I love God's word that loves using secular sources to justify doing things that his jehovah has warned against in watchtower magazines.

ucham:

Oh what a shame. Is this normal to any body reading? That I asked a direct question, and rather than answer me, you are directing me to your website.
Someone quoted Acts 15:29 that says "abstain from blood" earlier and I said I that's good. Now show me from the same Bible where the Bible says we can receive blood fractions.

You really need to think critically about this question, because your life may be at stake some day.

This question is open to any jw reading to answer it.

Olajumoke11:
are you a jw?

DavidEsq:

Goan include or quote those scriptures u claimed in your parochial self inflicted grandstandism and deep seated search for self justification, that were according to u, wr excluded. I do not believe in big words or grandstanding or being easily irked by the views of a religious sect just because I was probably cast out and feel the need to always slam dem, whenever subjects relating to them crop up in the internet. I'm not sworn to sweat to death over a particular religious sect, to besmear them just because I feel they shouldn't have cast me out. I'm not the one with a history of always having the veins on my neck and forehead stand out to bursting point just because the name of religious sect is called up online. I don't worry my already stressed bones with obvious petty talk. Dont u see the pain u have taken to scan thru this thread and hop on the head of anyone who u feel has a view divergent to yours? It wouldn't take lummy to figure out the source or reason for ur huffs and puffs which have no bearing in plain open reasoning. Now watch how he flips his switch or blows his top.

DECLAN2015:

U can have complication even with food u eat everyday and so?

atoleybaba:
if u genuinely need an answer you would go to the website, it is certain you just want the answer not because u really want to hear it but u just want to tackle the doctrine of the witnesses...besides the issue about drugs taaken instead of transfusion iss long to start writing....the best I can do for u is to direct u to the site to read about the drug used . Besides which drug are d witnesses using that contain blood? Go to that website if u really need an answer

Hairyrapunzel:


Last last jehovah never placed ban on blood transfusion. Nathan knorr a jw leader one time did in 1945. Come and beat us baby killer.

Hairyrapunzel:


The child is still alive that's all that matters. It shows that blood transfusion can still save life.

It doesn't always follow what you preach saying blood transfusion is always bad.

Stop looking for someone to
blame in this situation.

Hairyrapunzel:


Why should he go to a website? You can't show him bible verse?

Hefy4real:


To be frank, i really do not hate you or view you as less intelligent than i am. It can be quite shocking or weird to just accept change even when it is the best
If only your questions are genuine, i would have answered you beyond your wildest imaginations with proofs and references from more qualified practitioners who our politicians all run to to seek the best treatment. I know you will reject them because you feel you’ve known it all. Peace out fellow