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Oh nice to now find flat earthers on nairaland

How exactly does that prove God or Yahweh, Allah, Odin or Sango if science and all scientists are/were wrong about everything? Would that automatically mean a god created everything?

The awesome fact that Science could even remotely consider the possibility of it being entirely wrong places it miles above your silly religion that becomes hostile when it is questioned.

Science can admit that it is wrong and make corrections.

Religion believes it is always right even in the face of contrasting evidence and becomes hostile instead.

That is the difference between a progressive ideology and that which was meant to retain the status quo in order to control, enslave and divide.

EMILO2STAY:
space is a lie to give the idea that there is no God. But once you realize that the earth is a closed system with some kind of covering like an umbrella then you will have a consciousness that there is something beyond that covering. The bible is a flat eaeth book though I have refrained from using the bible to defend the flat earth. But the bible is full of passages that discloses the shape of the earth and what lies beyond.

The illusion of space is created to give the impression that we are insignificant and not created by a God. Also to give the impression that therw are other worlds with aliens living in them probably millions of years more advanced than human. Thses people fool us because they worship Satan for Satan to have his way with humans he has to lie about every thing.
If according to science aliens are more advance in intelligence, civilization and technology as we see in movies because they evolves couple of millions of years ahead of humans, then it follows that humans should be the oldest evolved organism on earth because we are more intelligent than animals. But the same science is saying that human were not here when dinosaurs were on the earth and that animals like chicken and duck fowls are descendant of the ancient dinosaurs which died out 65 million years ago. And that humans are just about 5million years in evolution, if this is true then how come humans being one of the youngest evolving organism is more intelligent than animals which are supposedly ahead of humans in the evolution timeline. Aren't the animals supposed to be more intelligent seeing that they are the oldest evolving organism just like the so called aliens?

Space according to science cannot exist because a vacuum is always a closed system and not an open system. You cannot have an open system like the earth is supposed next to a vacuum of space because the the atmosphere of the earth will empty into the vast vacuum of space. Also aircraft cannot move in space because it is a vacuum. Aircraft fly here on earth because their engines push against the atmosphere but space is a vacuum of nothingness and so nothing can move in it.

It is alleged that there are thousands of satellites in space but if you watch the videos of astronauts in space you will not see one of the so called satellites.

To add to what you said, what they called outer space is Water. There is an ocean above us. Remember Yah created the earth in the Midst of the Waters. Earth as we know it is water above and water below with a firmament dome Above

EMILO2STAY:
the scientist know the truth. They go by the rule of double think. Which means they know the truth but teach the lie just as they have been instructed. Otherwise they loose their license or research grants.

Even their science laws goes against the theory of space which is in the third law of thermodynamics which deals with enthropy.
You can't have a vast vacuum of space that's is an open system next to a non vacuum of earth that is equally an open system or else the non vacuum should empty into the vacuum thereby making the atmosphere of the earth into a vacuum too. Space is a lie, a creation straight out of the imagination of man to hide the true nature if our world and God.

The truth of the matter is that there is no space above the earth, the only thing above the earth is the firmament which no rocket can pass through, though they tried to break it in 1940s in the operation called fish bowl when they were shooting high kiloton to low megaton nuclear bombs in the sky which was several times more powerful than those used in hiroshima and nagasaki but did not succeed. Even Hilary clinton made several subtle comments about the earth having a glass ceiling which has about a million cracks in it publicly but people didn't know what she was talking about. The videos are on YouTube today. TV shows such as the Truman show and under the dome indicates the elite knows about this firmament.
The only thing above and outside the firmament is the throne of God, it is not venus or mars or any other imaginary nonsense.

Ezekiel 1:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

I see that scoffers and mockers have flocked your posts, you waste too much time and energy replying them

Truthwords:
To add to what you said, what they called outer space is Water. There is an ocean above us. Remember Yah created the earth in the Midst of the Waters. Earth as we know it is water above and water below with a firmament dome Above

maybe I don't know for sure, but there is definitely water above the firmament as the bible said. During the flood of Noah the windows of the firmament was opened and water poured down. But the bible also mentioned that the throne of God is above this firmament.

BlueAngel444:
That's why they spend so much time researching on how to prove their lies. How to make people believe how a vacuum and a non-vacuum can co-exist

They call it mysteries of the "universe" till they can find or give an explanation.


About this fishbowl of a thing, it's likely that global warming is all made up or global warming means something else

Are they bombing Antarctica and calling it global warming

You know I usually heard something like the sky is the limit didn't take it literally cause they used to teach us space in secondary school.


Are those cracks in anyway related to CERN's experiments (something about breaking the veil or crossing dimensions or finding something they shouldn't)

When we talk about global warming or climate change. Please do more research on HAARP. Man has invented machines that can manipulate weather. They use the HAARP weapons which sometimes acts like a microwave weapon to fire heatwaves at a spot to create things like Bush fires, e.g California fire, Amazon Fire, and the Current Australian Bush fires. Go and read about Tesla death Ray invention. Read also about how France Induced the Haiti earth quake. They want the world to believe in climate change. That's why they are deceiving the world with that possessed child actress greta Thunberg. Be observant. Watch the way they are going to use this Australian Bush fire to push their climate change agenda this 2020. The world is not going through climate change, what the world is going through is climate manipulation. Do you know that scientifically speaking, if carbon emissions are completely cut off, all plants in the earth will die, that's because plants breath carbon and release oxygen . There is a deeper population reduction agenda behind these movements.

Bacteriologist:
Oh nice to now find flat earthers on nairaland

How exactly does that prove God or Yahweh, Allah, Odin or Sango if science and all scientists are/were wrong about everything? Would that automatically mean a god created everything?

The awesome fact that Science could even remotely consider the possibility of it being entirely wrong places it miles above your silly religion that becomes hostile when it is questioned.

Science can admit that it is wrong and make corrections.

Religion believes it is always right even in the face of contrasting evidence and becomes hostile instead.

That is the difference between a progressive ideology and that which was meant to retain the status quo in order to control, enslave and divide.

Both religion and science as governed by man is bound to fail and be faulty.

Irrespective of each, the truth is the truth and it doesn't change.

When science becomes religious to claim for a fact a thing that is a mere speculation amongst them then none is greater than the other but two necessary evils either side of a coin.

Both are means used by men. Simple.

Truthwords:
When we talk about global warming or climate change. Please do more research on HAARP. Man has invented machines that can manipulate weather. They use the HAARP weapons which sometimes acts like a microwave weapon to fire heatwaves at a spot to create things like Bush fires, e.g California fire, Amazon Fire, and the Current Australian Bush fires. Go and read about Tesla death Ray invention. Read also about how France Induced the Haiti earth quake. They want the world to believe in climate change. That's why they are deceiving the world with that possessed child actress greta Thunberg. Be observant. Watch the way they are going to use this Australian Bush fire to push their climate change agenda this 2020. The world is not going through climate change, what the world is going through is climate manipulation. Do you know that scientifically speaking, if carbon emissions are completely cut off, all plants in the earth will die, that's because plants breath carbon and release oxygen . There is a deeper population reduction agenda behind these movements.

Am gonna read up on this

A link would be nice

BlueAngel444:
Both religion and science as governed by man is bound to fail and be faulty.

Except **EVERY** progress we have made as a species today is because of -wait for it- : SCIENCE.

If science is bound to fail. It has done a pretty good job as it has helped us to explore and break limits and has generally made life easier for all of us. Including doubters like you.

What has Religion done except DIVIDE is and make us hate each other. Religion keeps preaching death as the wages of sin while Science is bent on makes our lives better EVERYDAY.

BlueAngel444:
Irrespective of each, the truth is the truth and it doesn't change.

Yes. And do you want to know what made us realise that the truth is the truth? Science. Want to know what continually brings us closer to the truth? SCIENCE. Religion gives us answers that cannot be questioned. Lies that cannot be reviewed.

Religion makes people care less about the truth --like you're doing.
Science keeps us challenging each other and driving us further to the truth.

BlueAngel444:
When science becomes religious to claim for a fact a thing that is a mere speculation amongst them then none is greater than the other but two necessary evils either side of a coin.

What the füčk do you mean by "science becoming religious" Do scientists have a worship center or a god they worship? Please let me know how you conclude that science can "become religious." As I find that to be a very ridiculous comment.

Science IS GREATER than religion. As I have already pointed out throughout this post. Your eagerness to undermine science is hanging in the air. If you think science is equal to religion then I want you to point to me an invention that was solely deduced from/inspired by the Bible/Quran/Any other Religious book. I will wait.

Both books if anything have attempted to keep us ignorant and to keep doubting science. And a good example is YOU.

BlueAngel444:
Both are means used by men. Simple.

Would you rather they be used by animals? Both are used by men but religion has been used for evil causes over a far longer period of time. Than science ever will.

Science is the future. Religion will die. How about that? Choke on it.

Bacteriologist:
Except **EVERY** progress we have made as a species today is because of -wait for it- : SCIENCE.

If science is bound to fail. It has done a pretty good job as it has helped us to explore and break limits and has generally made life easier for all of us. Including doubters like you.

What has Religion done except DIVIDE is and make us hate each other. Religion keeps preaching death as the wages of sin while Science is bent on makes our lives better EVERYDAY.

you speak as if Countries that trust in science ain't divided

You speak as if, issues like nuclear war heads, are not a commonly discussed issue in the news.

So you think there ain't those that even fake religion hasn't helped.

Your myopically blaming religion for everything and yet you don't even comprehend how religions have formed and forged the very ideas and concepts in science.

Science is bent on making your life better, that mr man is your religion - what you believe in completely without question.

Bacteriologist:
Yes. And do you want to know what made us realise that the truth is the truth? Science. Want to know what continually brings us closer to the truth? SCIENCE. Religion gives us answers that cannot be questioned. Lies that cannot be reviewed.

Religion makes people care less about the truth --like you're doing.
Science keeps us challenging each other and driving us further to the truth.

Science gives you answers your senses may or not agree to.

And you know our senses can't perceive everything, that's why our science improve with improved perception.

So if our senses can deceive us, and science is a result of our senses, as faulty as our senses are is as faulty and deceptive our science is - except u wanna be dumb enough and say science is from Space n not us.

Religion can be questioned, just as science but fo.ols believe otherwise. Being foolish isn't a function of religion or science but a self denial of perfect intelligence - God, that's is someone or something that is more intelligent and formed what we see.

If we can't trust our senses how can we trust our science?

Science is helpful, only when it is based on the truth

Religion is destructive and a lie when like science it clouds the truth with the imaginations of a man's mind.

Is science about revealing the truth or explaining what we see?

Do you think science began few centuries ago?

Science has been a part of man's culture for ages.

What questions has science answered, without sounding as confused as many religions in the world. To show that their answers are formed from their imaginations and believes.

If we observe the world with the senses God gave us we should discover the truth, that should be true science, true religion but that isn't always the case.

Bacteriologist:
What the füčk do you mean by "science becoming religious" Do scientists have a worship center or a god they worship? Please let me know how you conclude that science can "become religious." As I find that to be a very ridiculous comment.

Science IS GREATER than religion. As I have already pointed out throughout this post. Your eagerness to undermine science is hanging in the air. If you think science is equal to religion then I want you to point to me an invention that was solely deduced from/inspired by the Bible/Quran/Any other Religious book. I will wait.

Both books if anything have attempted to keep us ignorant and to keep doubting science. And a good example is YOU.

a worship center? A god they worship?
Worship is reverence, they believe in gravity that doesn't exist, they calmed for centuries the sun was the center of their world. They have worshiped, worked and dedicated themselves to proving what they have claimed to believed and if they found out it was a lie how many admit it so.

I don't care for either science or religion, I care for the truth and if doubting everything helps then yea I am an example.

We are all ignorant of something, I chose to be ignorant of knowledge of lies.

The bible you speak of wasn't written by perfect men and was in no way speaking of perfect men. Infact the bible posing more questions than answers y because it seeks to direct one's focus to a search for the truth.

Among God's words is this one shouldn't just trust and accept anything.

Another one, come to me, God, and I will show you.

the science I refuse to believe in, as you have, is the science that challenges the very basic thing we see and experience, that challenge our existences and calls it meaningless.

The religion I reject is the one whose God is dumb and doesn't speak nor answer.

Bacteriologist:
Would you rather they be used by animals? Both are used by men but religion has been used for evil causes over a far longer period of time. Than science ever will.

Science is the future. Religion will die. How about that? Choke on it.

Nah, religion won't die as long as man exists the way we currently do - believing our own imaginations. Even now you believe in science, of which man is god of.

Religion might have been the motivation but science has been the weaponization.

Science is just the present.

BlueAngel444:
Genesis 1:6-8 - With understanding the properties of water, it requires a physically hardened substance to keep it contained. Thus, a dome/firmament is not only logical, but is within the proper context of scripture.

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." (Job 26:7 - KJV) From the "north" is being "stretched" over what empty place?


"Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?" (Job 37:18)

The premise of this verse is a "question" being posed, in oder to put "man" in perspective to the Creator. In that teaching moment God reveals a truth about the "expanse," that it is "strong" just like a "molten looking glass."

"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:" (Isaiah 40:22 - KJV)

This verse shares the same language Job 26:7.

What in the "heavens" is being "stretched out" as a curtain? What in the "heavens" are "spread out that would allow us to live under it as a "tent?"


"Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" (Isaiah 44:24 - KJV) Again, what is being "stretched" in the heavens?


"I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded." (Isaiah 45:12 -KVJ) This verse, Isaiah 45:12, is in agreement with Job 26:7 and Job 37:18, as well as, there is no contradiction within the inspired words of God.


Only a fool is willing to declare God a liar by stating that His hands have NOT stretched out the heavens." Let God be true and every man a liar." (Romans 3:4)


"Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together." (Isaiah 48:13 - KJV) What is being "spanned" by God in the heavens?


Ezekiel 1:22-26, Ezekiel 10:1 - The analogies of the "firmament" make no sense without a literal "firmament."


"And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever." (Daniel 12:3 - KJV) Just as the firmament is described as firm like a molten looking glass, it has a hardened surface from which a "shine" can occur.


"Who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and founds his vault upon the earth;" (Amos 9:6a - ESV) -


Vaults are sealed to a surface to contain the contents within, maybe even a firmament?


"And he said, 'Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.'” (Acts 7:56 - KJV) If the "heavens" are only the open expanse/sky, why would it have to be re-opened?

What is being "opened?" Perhaps, the firmament?

"and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal." (Revelation 4:6a - KJV) See also Job 37:18.

"The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place." (Revelation 6:14 - KJV) What is being "departed as a scroll when it is rolled together?"



If anyone is causing a divide/wedge over the true existence of the dome/firmament it is the obstinance of the man to reject God's Word for His descriptions of His firmament.

read your Bible, know the truth and that knowledge shall set you free