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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 9:26pm On Jan 18, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Even if it is oversubscribed they will give priority to small Investors.


Union Bank raised N20 billion via commercial papers @5%, pension fund managers bought everything within minutes.
Serious! Pension fund managers have a lot of trillion to invest.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 10:11pm On Jan 18, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Even if it is oversubscribed they will give priority to small Investors.


Union Bank raised N20 billion via commercial papers @5%, pension fund managers bought everything within minutes.

Sir, that one tire me. Person no fit invest this days in peace without over subscription. Morgan capital sent me another union bank CP which will take place on Monday.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 10:13pm On Jan 18, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Even if it is oversubscribed they will give priority to small Investors.


Union Bank raised N20 billion via commercial papers @5%, pension fund managers bought everything within minutes.
This FG bond, what's the minimum amount one can buy from primary market? I never buy bond before o
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by janga(m): 10:44pm On Jan 18, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
This FG bond, what's the minimum amount one can buy from primary market? I never buy bond before o

50mill is minimum in primary markt. And plz PaEmma if someone wanted to buy a FG Bond with 100mill and after opening a stockbrokin account, did he/she need to credit the 100mill to that stockbrokin acct and then keep waiting to see if the bond will be successful or fail
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 11:00pm On Jan 18, 2020
DigitalMallam:

Price history from the link you provided is blank/empty.
Besides I didn't cook up the figures I gave earlier, it was from my personal & practical observation. I maintain mmf account with them and the interest I get now daily [even as at now()] is half of my daily interest mid Dec.
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 11:04pm On Jan 18, 2020
janga:


50mill is minimum in primary markt. And plz PaEmma if someone wanted to buy a FG Bond with 100mill and after opening a stockbrokin account, did he/she need to credit the 100mill to that stockbrokin acct and then keep waiting to see if the bond will be successful or fail
You mean everybody seeking this FG bond want to tie their 50mill there?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kolping: 2:15am On Jan 19, 2020
Flour Mills Issues Up to N20 Billion in Medium-Term Bonds
MARKETS - January 17, 2020

Flour Mills of Nigeria Plc, Nigeria’s leading integrated food business and Agro-allied Group, manufacturer of the iconic brand-Golden Penny, says the company intends to issue up to N20, 000,000,000 in medium-term bonds following approval by its Board of Directors.

The conglomerate noted that subject to appropriate pricing, it planned to use proceeds from the Bonds to refinance existing short term debt and increase further the efficiency of its balance sheet with the ultimate objective of maximizing the wealth of its shareholders

It stated that the Bonds which are expected to be Senior Unsecured Fixed Rate Bonds with tenure of 3 and 5 years respectively are part of its previously approved N70,000,000,000 Bond Issue Programme.

Also, it said that the process of obtaining requisite approvals from Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, for issuance of the Bonds has begun

https://businesspagengr.com/flour-mills-issues-up-to-n20-billion-in-medium-term-bonds/
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fxmanager(m): 3:55am On Jan 19, 2020
kunleweb:



We'll. Its to look for a. Comfortable resistance zone and sell. On highs, lock in profits, check if commission fees will be positive but if negative calculate the rate against the profit and let it position remain in tact. I wonder why our nation isn't honing in on this, yet we claim to have astute minds in CBN, when China has been raking in billions in dollars the past 15 years FROM FX. If only African governments knew that most of the loan they go to get from China comes from the profit it holds in the FX market especially counter trend sudden bounce movements. Africans always claim to be bookworms put hardly. Put their knowledge into its optimum use. ( I speak in reference to the CBN and the finance ministry combined). If consulted I don't think its hard to evaluate how to rake in 1 billion dollars from the market seasonally. If Goldman Sachs, George Soros can be doing it, then I wonder why we have institutional deficiency. angry


( When we talk, they take notes, copious notes grin - the realm of the gods grin and when they can't beat the intellect, they resort to blackmails, libels, defamation, character assassination. Chai inferiority complex is a disease grin)
In a simple term, we call it Currency Reserve Portfolio Management. A look at what China is doing in the link below
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/china-diversifying-fx-reserves-assets-to-counter-us-dollar-exposure.html
This is likened to Forex Portfolio Management where traders moves your funds across different countries currency according to the economic situation of that country to make profits, but to find that professional trader is hard. He has to note what will affect the direction of currencies by analysing both the report of the economy, geopolitical tension and mergers and aquisation, etc and technically combine to make and inform trading decision
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 4:15am On Jan 19, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
This FG bond, what's the minimum amount one can buy from primary market? I never buy bond before o

This very one is N10,000 minimum investment
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 4:18am On Jan 19, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
You mean everybody seeking this FG bond want to tie their 50mill there?

Oga u funny shaa. Kai laugh wan kill me. Yes nau, they wanna tie it for 5yrs, 10yrs and 30yrs��
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:21am On Jan 19, 2020
needful:


Sir, that one tire me. Person no fit invest this days in peace without over subscription. Morgan capital sent me another union bank CP which will take place on Monday.

Too much money in the system, but why will you buy the commercial paper will that meagre returns?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:26am On Jan 19, 2020
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From the advert, I think one can invest a minimum of 10k. Please get more information from your Stockbroker
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:28am On Jan 19, 2020
janga:


50mill is minimum in primary markt. And plz PaEmma if someone wanted to buy a FG Bond with 100mill and after opening a stockbrokin account, did he/she need to credit the 100mill to that stockbrokin acct and then keep waiting to see if the bond will be successful or fail

The money will be transferred into your Stockbrokers account .

With the right description eg purchase of FG bond
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:29am On Jan 19, 2020
needful:


This very one is N10,000 minimum investment

You are right
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:30am On Jan 19, 2020
janga:


50mill is minimum in primary markt. And plz PaEmma if someone wanted to buy a FG Bond with 100mill and after opening a stockbrokin account, did he/she need to credit the 100mill to that stockbrokin acct and then keep waiting to see if the bond will be successful or fail


The one that requires N50 million are not usually advertised and the offer last few hours and not 5 days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:38am On Jan 19, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
You mean everybody seeking this FG bond want to tie their 50mill there?

Not this particular one, but usually it is N50 million and above. This one is aimed at democratising the Investment and should not be for a selected investors.

Institutional investors like mutual fund managers, pension fund managers, endowment fund managers, insurance companies, businesses and High Networth Investors commit hundreds of millions of naira and billions of Naira to it. They don't see it as tying down of money.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kunleweb: 5:24am On Jan 19, 2020
Fxmanager:
In a simple term, we call it Currency Reserve Portfolio Management. A look at what China is doing in the link below
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/china-diversifying-fx-reserves-assets-to-counter-us-dollar-exposure.html
This is likened to Forex Portfolio Management where traders moves your funds across different countries currency according to the economic situation of that country to make profits, but to find that professional trader is hard. He has to note what will affect the direction of currencies by analysing both the report of the economy, geopolitical tension and mergers and aquisation, etc and technically combine to make and inform trading decision



Trust me finding such expats isn't as hard as would have been thought. The drive is what matters which obviously our tench rats do not have and do not understand its benefits hence are intellectually bereft and technically incapacitated to do the do.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 6:56am On Jan 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


You are right

I will try and contact Cardinal stones about the bond purchase.

Do you think they are a good stock brocking firm?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:07am On Jan 19, 2020
yomi007k:


I will try and contact Cardinal stones about the bond purchase.

Do you think they are a good stock brocking firm?


Cardinal Stone is good, are they still at South West Ikoyi?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 7:37am On Jan 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Too much money in the system, but why will you buy the commercial paper will that meagre returns?

Am not really interested in it Sir. Mutual fund rate is still better than that there 5%.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 7:41am On Jan 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


You are right


But Sir, My fear with this very bond is transferring say 10m and they end up alloting only 2m. Does it usually happen with primary market bond?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 8:01am On Jan 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



Cardinal Stone is good, are they still at South West Ikoyi?
5 Okotie road ikoyi.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by eghos24(m): 8:15am On Jan 19, 2020
RealityShot:
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Is this from stanbic?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 8:50am On Jan 19, 2020
needful:


But Sir, My fear with this very bond is transferring say 10m and they end up alloting only 2m. Does it usually happen with primary market bond?
Good question. I don't want to do same and get paltry allotment.

Cc: ukay2 and emmanuelewumi
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 9:15am On Jan 19, 2020
IamR:

Good question. I don't want to do same and get paltry allotment.

Cc: ukay2 and emmanuelewumi


N10 million should fly, if it doesn't the excess will be paid back into your account by DMO immediately
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C505: 9:27am On Jan 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:


Google any of the stock brokers, i gave you. You can register online through their website

Sir pls can I send you a mail? Haven't done bond before so I'm looking to try this before it expires.

Please don't tell me to ask my questions here. Most replies I read here are usually not understandable because typing can be a pain so a lot of people try to keep it short and simple.

I can come back later and write my movement gotten from you

Thanks will be looking forward to your reply
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by delawal: 10:02am On Jan 19, 2020
jobark:
A little piece of advice from the little knowledge i continually build on as we all learn everyday.

A lot of us are mixing stages of financial progression and distorting the “build” process. Its a difficult thing to say but you sometimes have to understand that at an earlier stage in finance, savings is key rather than investment as the end goal or target for an investment is to give you passive income or compound your investments.

There’s nothing totally wrong with gradually building capital and focusing on opportunities to add to your savings before venturing into investments.

Coupled with the not so friendly rates in the market averaging 5% for a risk free investment a real life scenario means

N1 million will return about 49k after deductions for a year.

49k spread in 12months means an average of 4k every month.

4k today can’t be termed passive income as it is 13% of minimum wage.

Personally, if my portfolio size hovers around this, I’ll rather seek business opportunities or provide finance for a trusted contractor, consultant or supplier around that could pay me commission above the 4k monthly average.

This is just my opinion and it shouldn’t be taken in a wrong way as we all learn and are open to clarifications or superior suggestions.

u re right. people should go and find real Biz and do. imagine 4k return on a million naira per month. that's abuse of money .

personally , I have cancelled all my money investments DT ran into millions of naira after d rate crash in DEC. for this two weeks DT have passed I have seen more returns on my money. intact now I knew I have been wasting my time doing all these low roi investments . na real Biz be d koko.

all these people advising people to continue this kind investments aside people who re abroad, people just just go do real Biz. in anything u do avoid buying stocks for now. dis economy is highly unstable for such

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by healthserve(m): 10:06am On Jan 19, 2020
delawal:

u re right. people should go and find real Biz and do. imagine 4k return on a million naira per month. that's abuse of money .

personally , I have cancelled all my money investments DT ran into millions of naira after d rate crash in DEC. for this two weeks DT have passed I have seen more returns on my money. intact now I knew I have been wasting my time doing all these low roi investments . na real Biz be d koko.

all these people advising people to continue this kind investments aside people who re abroad, people just just go do real Biz. in anything u do avoid buying stocks for now. dis economy is highly unstable for such


The funny thing is until one dips both feet fully into the real sector, they'll never ever understand and even attack the concept when presented.
But those that know know, the taste of the pudding can not be known without eating it.

Unless one goes beyond self imposing limitations/boundaries, they'll almost never embrace concepts beyond familiar territory,however functional, operational and viable.

Congrats on your new discovery wink

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by delawal: 10:47am On Jan 19, 2020
let me be a little specific. after d rate crash. I tried out a real Biz with 3% of d total amount DT gave me about 50k monthly in money market investment. in d first week I made a sell DT gave me profit of 30k which which is more than half of d profit I get from money market.

now am thinking of more things to invest in, real things. I use to be blind before. now can see. my advise is for people who can to try out a Biz .just start small small. do little things if u can and see if it can grow.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by janga(m): 11:27am On Jan 19, 2020
delawal:
let me be a little specific. after d rate crash. I tried out a real Biz with 3% of d total amount DT gave me about 50k monthly in money market investment. in d first week I made a sell DT gave me profit of 30k which which is more than half of d profit I get from money market.

now am thinking of more things to invest in, real things. I use to be blind before. now can see. my advise is for people who can to try out a Biz .just start small small. do little things if u can and see if it can grow.

most of peoples here are business man,services reseller,freelancer and those cashflow of money earn with business is what goin into investment security and those coupon gotten via bond is moving into real estate. one man food is another man poison, so do what work best for u

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 11:29am On Jan 19, 2020
janga:


most of peoples here are business man,services reseller,freelancer and those cashflow of money earn with business is what goin into investment security and those coupon gotten via bond is moving into real estate. one man food is another man poison, so do what work best for u

Exactly my point. Most people here have other jobs. Starting a business will require proper management unless you want to run a charity.

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