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sassysure:
She don't know her husband at all.
She should read papers, interviews etc to see how messed up that guy is.
Even a mad man still get somebody that calms him down.


Come, if u want to insult Hollywood actresses,add their men too.
Don't be partial.

peacettw:
If you are referring to me as part of the people, then you must be in serious denial that this will end well.

Family and money remain the two things that serve as anchors in this treacherous world.They have unwittingly lost both.

If you can't see this Am.anee, then get off my mention.

sassysure:
Go to malls, places of work, talk show programmes, it's Megan everyday. I'm even tired of the whole thing.

I just said that British people though liberal are very traditional.
More traditional than us.

Here, the senior citizens voice are like thunder. U must respect them o. They have been following and watching and came to the conclusion Megan is a bitter pill to swallow.

I wanted to scream at one old woman at the mall one day.
U need to see her badmouthing this lady, Megan.

As per them staying married. I hope they do but Harry is somebody that is never stable. Megan too has her motives. If it didn't go as she want, with time, we will start hearing some funny stories.

sassysure:
There was this poll that was deleted off social media.
Saw it on BBC1.
One random social media user said they should vote for Megan to be stripped off her official title.
Like joke, thousand voted yes.
That was how this started.
Not up to 3 weeks they made that announcement.
I'm thinking, like the news commentator, they never saw this coming.
It was a silly online joke by a teen but the rate with which people voted yes was alarming.

Also, I am positive this is what made Harry made that decision.
Being a highly volatile person he did it on social media instead of consulting his family first.
When asked to comment on that poll, the family where in shock and I think it was Prince Charles that said that it's a joke taken far. Everything about that poll died natural death.

Harry has always been the prodigal son. Emotionally unstable and alone in th mot of plenty.

bukatyne:
You are working top bottom; I am working bottom up.

Every wise person counts the cost of a decision before taking it.

If Meghan says she did not think the royal family would be dismissive of her and she would have to triple prove herself, then she is extremely slow.

I also do not have an interest in them breaking up; divorce breaks people and messes their lives.

However, given the trend, they will.

Neither seems to have the characteristic to make their marriage work.

The press is dismissive in two years; they leave the royal family. A challenge comes up in their marriage?

And note that the press is not the royal family. So refusing to grant interviews or associate with the press would actually be a better 'revenge'.

How many 'normal' people disown or step down from their families when there are issues?

bukatyne:
Is Kate not below William's class?

Dislike again? She is inconsequential to me.

She has all the baggage possible and instead of her to pipe low, she is acting like she is the best thing to happen to Harry.

Harry's marriage to her is a mistake. But again, Harry himself doesn't seem like someone responsible with partying naked and other stuffs. He also doesn't seem like someone wise enough to grasp who he really is hence his ease to throw away his birthright.

Now, some others are irresponsible with a sense of civil obligation and pursue spouses to help them achieve that.

She is bi-racial, divorced, an actress, at war with all her family yet she could not spin the situation in her favour by going higher when they go lower.

If she aligned herself with the royal protocol, it would get to a stage the British would stand up for her and she will be a guiding light to others after her.

Instead, she allowed instant gratification without the future rob her of it.

bukatyne:
You don't like royal family but you like royal money,

Na beans?

Omooba77:
Hope Meghan no go spoil Harry life like this

crackkhaus:
Brits have never understood why Americans are the way they are (loud, arrogant, etc), it's a common stereotype.
Sassysure, I lie?

Then on top of her being American, she is now a divorcee, a Hollywood actress (some of the fakest people on earth), she doesn't get along with her family members (was it not only her mum that attended her wedding), and then to make it worse, her body language and attitude when meeting with British commoners always appears dismissive...and you're asking what she did wrong?

Even as an actress, one would think she would have been skilled enough to act a part in public..lol.
She shot herself in the foot.

cococandy:
Also for having never met her how are you so entirely sure that she didn’t love him. That it Must be the royal money.

And you’re sure this is objective?

Sterope:
Tell me what you knew of her before her marriage minus the Hollywood part please. She was an actress who kept to herself and her charity. She is not Angelina Jolie!!!

Very silly stereotype! Silly analysis!

cococandy:
Please how did she act like she’s the what thing that happened to Harry? This is obviously your interpretation of what you want to see based on what you have already convinced yourself. And it reeks of dislike. Was it how she smiled? Or how she walked? What was it exactly that she did to make her seem like she thinks she’s the best thing to happen to him?

As for your other points.
So she’s bi-racial. Meaning she should automatically see herself as less-than. Right?
Divorced. Meaning she’s less-than again. Right?

You’re saying a black person should grovel and take the nigga title from her masters happily because they have bent over backwards by taking her as one of them?

bukatyne:
Goodluck.

cococandy:
For all those who think the royal family is sacred and as such must not be polluted with black blood, or divorced blood. Or if they must be, then the “culprit” has to live apologetically for daring to think they are fit for royalty.


Do Know that they are humans who BTW are not really that good of a group of humans anyway.

Their so called wealth was built on the backs of our fathers and mothers and the milking of our resources until very recently and is still being taken to appease them.

Before you think enslavers, pedophiles, murderers and thieves are too good for your kind, ask yourself what you did to deserve it.

Let’s not endorse them in their belief that they are some sort of super humans who we have to calculate how to breath around them. They hold all the power because of us.

I don’t know why this thread got me upset but I think I need a breather

Sterope:
Tell me what you knew of her before her marriage minus the Hollywood part please. She was an actress who kept to herself and her charity. She is not Angelina Jolie!!!

Very silly stereotype! Silly analysis!

midnighter:
People here are conflating issues

The fact that the two of them are stepping back from their royal duties is not 100% related to her being stubborn, arrogant or whatever.

I myself dont necessarily agree with all that she does, but the question is this:

Dont men married to "appropriate" women also feeling like breaking free? Is it only "nice" women who deserve a happy life with their husbands, free of misogyny and racism?

Meghans character flaws are not supposed to be the whole focus here and its actually our Nigerian tendency towards blaming women for everything that is blurring the lines

cococandy:
They didn’t disown their family.Let’s keep to facts please. They took a step back from the royal affairs.

I don’t think you’re working bottom top or too bottom or any method for that matter.

You do dislike her and it’s obvious from your posts .

For someone who you admit is remote from your life and you don’t know, it would make more sense to me if you were just plain objective in your analysis rather than on the attack.

You accuse her of wanting royalty. Then accuse her of leaving it.
She has to be one. Either a social climber who will cling to the royalty with all her might or a woman who loves her man and will leave the royalty if that’s what he wants. But she can’t be both.

You’re not being objective. And you can’t claim it’s not because of dislike. Maybe you need to take a step back and read your posts.

bukatyne:
I said some posts ago that Harry is a poster child of someone left to his devices.

Wrong choices trail such people.

From lifestyle to choice of a wife to this.

Meghan knew what she signed up for when she decided to marry Harry. The press has always been unkind to people and they move on. They did same to Obama & family yet they did not step down.

They did same to Goodluck Jonathan, he still contested second time and lost.

Shebi madam Meghan was reputed to leave acting because she is marrying into the royal family. Is she not going back to it?

Any relationship that makes one to lose his/her essence would not stand the test of time. Unfortunately, they are even in a clime that divorce is done at the drop of a hat.

In all of this, I have not seen one thing Meghan is sacrificing; Harry is the one giving it all up. His title, his customs, his traditions, his family etc.
The lure of getting his freedom might be 'sweet' till he realizes it is really gone. It is not on suspension; it is not like partying naked in Las Vegas for the weekend and coming back home to his privileged life. It is all gone! Puff!

Meghan's life was not in danger that he would say I am choosing my wife's life over my family.

Goodluck to Harry.

Cc: DexterousOne

@Cococandy:

Did Meghan know what she was getting into or not?

I am a firm believer of rights WITH responsibilities.

Even average people research into the family (customs, traditions, beliefs etc) of their spouses how much more an enlightened actress marrying into the British Royal Family which is the most publicized in the world?

Meghan cannot claim victimhood in this case.

jesmond3945:
jonathan

bukatyne:
If it was China Chu, Titi Lagbaja, Chioma Nwoke, Halima Aminu, Jacequline Moniseur or Amiga Lasanga that was in Meghan's place, my comments would be same. I have nothing against Meghan as a person.

In every society, there is class system so yes, when the upper class stoops lower to marry someone out of their class, the other person pipes low.

One of the reasons I am not a fan of inter-class marriage.

And this is not a black vs. white thing.

Observe our politicians who were elected/rigged into temporal positions: their children marry themselves. Take top rich pastors: their kids marry themselves. Peeps who are upper class by birth e.g. traditional rulers and monrachs: Their children marry one another. Take a look at the old money families: They marry themselves. Infact, some old money would not tangle with nouveau rich because they feel they don't have the class or prestige.

Look at children who break out of the mold and marry below their class.

Meghan had several strikes against her so she should have studied the royal family well and aligned with them. It was the time to be about her own individuality. If she wanted her individuality, she should have married a non-royalty and she would have the freedom to flex as she deems fit.

LordAdam16:
You seem to forget Nigeria is almost entirely monarchial.

The Ooni's last wife received the Meghan treatment for comparable reasons.

So, I'm not exactly sure who you're appealing to.

I always find it intriguing how aloof your kinds are of how conservative and traditional 6 of the 8 billion people on the planet really are.

The crown built their wealth on exploitation. So did every royal house in history, including those still thriving in this country.

If a Prince or Nobleman (chief) treated a monarch in Nigeria as rudely as Harry has treated Her Majesty at the behest of a commoner; such an individual would receive harsher treatment from the throne and the populace.

Thus, when you say Royals don't want to pollute their blood, most royal houses all around the planet are exactly the same. The entire premise of monarchy rests on exclusivity. That's its foremost allure. That this is lost on you is no surprise now that I think about it.

-Lord

crackkhaus:
You will have to tone down and converse with me with factual statements and not refer to what I type as silly. Very few people are worse than I am here when it comes to making posters appear stupid, so let's not go there.


Now you just asked me to tell you what I knew of her before her marriage minus the Hollywood part, your reason for this is to make it seem like I don't know her real attitude.
Well, this is a rather infantile way to make a point considering you also don't know anything of her minus Hollywood and royal marriage, so in essence, you too can't be sure of her real behavior.

However, here's the difference between you and I and why you're completely going off on a tangent.
She is in public life, her mannerisms and attitudes are under public scrutiny.
The way she behaves around British commoners is very much unacceptable for a member of the royal family, this is not my personal opinion - anyone who actually watches her when she goes on engagements with Harry knows this, it's also something she gets trolled on by the media.
Diana became the people's princess by mastering public mannerisms, Kate Middleton does the same thing and is not so much in bad books.

Whether I know her or you know her before Hollywood or before marriage is besides the point, and shows you've got nothing to say to make a factual argument...this is because her public persona already tells everyone a lot about her mindset. She can't be acting like an outsider who would rather be at home when in public, and then expect that people watching will think she is accommodating and less uptight in private.
No one has that time to start imagining her to be a different person - how a person acts in public is how they will be judged. SIMPLE.

You also called the British impression of Americans a silly stereotype. Again, ignorance..because it exists whether you believe it or not.
It is a pervasive British impression about Americans and it is called a stereotype, meaning it may not be true about ALL Americans.
What this means is that it was now Meghan's job to show/prove she is not like the Americans most British already assumed her to be.

And if she felt that she didn't need to prove anything to anyone, because this is exactly what most entitled arrogant modern women think, then she shouldn't have married a British prince.
That I-dont-care American attitude does not play well in the UK, not to mention when you're now in the royal family whose wealth comes from the tax paid by the very same people you don't care to please.

cococandy:
I’m sorry bukatyne responsibility is not the same as accepting maltreatment, enduring racism or daily harassment. That’s not a responsibility. The other royal members of the family were not harassed like them.
Does responsibility include accepting that your child is a monkey because he has black blood? And the royal family said nothing in defense of it’s newest great grandchild. Something they would never let fly if any of the other kids were involved

Even when the tabloid carried news of prince Williams infidelity, the royal house quickly issued a cease and desist letter. So they knew how to stand up for members of their family but stood quietly while this young man and his family were being barraged with hate.

You obviously dislike her but for whatever reason that is up to you. Don’t be like this is about her accepting her responsibilities or traditions of the family. Just be upfront about your dislike of her.

Name one thing she did that was wrong so as to qualify as breaking the family tradition?

She knew she was marrying into a royal family and was probably prepared to do the job of a duchess. None of that job description involves cuddling your black child at night and crying because the world thing you’re monkeys and everyone is okay with that.

I guess she chose her black race and hence is not really a victim of the racism

cococandy:
If you didn’t mean anything personally against her, maybe refrain from phrases such as daft, or phrases that insinuate she’s a gold digger. Or endorsing the ones that portrayed her a calculating social climber who will deal with him. bearing in mind that you don’t know her like you rightly said.

But it’s fine. I’ve said I can on this thread anyway. Anything else will be me repeating myself.

crackkhaus:
Everything worked together to make her situation worse, including character flaws.

She already had the baggages, stereotypes, and family history of disunity working against her. The least she could have done is to act in the exact way the British people would make her their beloved.
Those people know they pay for her lifestyle as a Duchess and deserve to see a semblance of what they are paying for.

Like seriously, have you even sat down to really observe her mannerisms in public? Don't just type because you want to type.

Watch how Diana acted with commoners, watch how Kate acts with commoners, then compare them to how Meghan acts.
Unless you just want to be unnecessarily biased or you lack the ability to observe body language & facial expression, only then will you conclude she behaves the way a courtier ought to.

peacettw:
Well said.

Sterope:
Loud, arrogant dismissive...yada yada yada bla bla bla

The question remains the woman you know so well. What do you know of her before her marriage? Because her interest hasn't changed. She is still heavily involved in charity like she was. She did not have a bad publicity like other actresses. She kept to herself. What everyone knew about her was her father, her mother, her divorce and Suit.

So what part of her gave you the vibe of loud, arrogant and dismissive and all of your other silly projections? Is it that you and Piers Morgan know something we do not know about her


You are bitter, hateful and envious like the lots of them

sassysure:
She will do what she got to do behind closed doors.
This is to pacify the British people.

He made a very big mistake going online.
And this is where I fault Megan.
She should have resisted that and even report him to the queen or his father. So that if the grapevine want to gossip, they will say Megan was against it( even if she supported that in her heart)

They have protocol on things like this

midnighter:
I already acknowledged that some of her behaviour is not good, so I dont see your point.

The fact that you ignored what I wrote and framed your entire comment around Meghan instead of taking the announcement in context of Harry's life in general just proved my premise that you are mixing issues.