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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 11:33am On Jan 25, 2020
RealityShot:
I just decided to stick to treasury bills.
It fits my purpose despite the rate at the moment.

I need Zero Access to my funds.
Plus I like the upfront payment.


Enough distractions already. (am wasting my time looking for new investments, the difference ain't worth all the stress and distraction)

Thank you PA Emmanuelewumi and others for all your help.

U r just in my head, TB was perfect for me. And with what is happening around naija I don't see myself tying down huge funds for 3--5years, money I may need anytime from now.

My budget is done every year. I sha hope thing improve before July.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Satoshi2019: 12:20pm On Jan 25, 2020
Hello gurus. Pls any info on credibility on fixed deposit of Renmoney? Has anyone tried it. Thinking of fixing 1m
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by BlackboiNero(m): 12:54pm On Jan 25, 2020
Hello everyone. Is it true treasure bills are no longer sold to inviduals anymore. If yes, then what's the alternative. I actually for once considered this investment and now this news(hope it's true though)
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by richforever123: 2:32pm On Jan 25, 2020
I came across this App, PiggyVest. It is an app that helps you save money with them (from your bank account) daily, weekly and on monthly schedules and provide interest of as much as 15%. I am very interested in the safelock feature, they claim they pay interest upfront, and I want to invest a huge some, how are the able to give these good interest rates? Are the backed up by a bank? What is the risk level? I really wanna try it, but don't wanna test the depth of a river by dipping legs inside. If there's anyone who had used it, or is still using it, kindly testify.
Thanks for your kind response!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:42pm On Jan 25, 2020
zamirikpo:


U r just in my head, TB was perfect for me. And with what is happening around naija I don't see myself tying down huge funds for 3--5years, money I may need anytime from now.

My budget is done every year. I sha hope thing improve before July.
it not easy
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jobark: 2:44pm On Jan 25, 2020
Satoshi2019:
Hello gurus. Pls any info on credibility on fixed deposit of Renmoney? Has anyone tried it. Thinking of fixing 1m

I’m also considering them alongside Wema ALAT as the two offer almost the Same ROI.

According to their website, they make it known w they are regulated by the CBN and Deposits are secured (NDIC)

Picture 1 shows a return on 1m

Picture 2 may boost your confidence with in them.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 9jatriot(m): 2:51pm On Jan 25, 2020
In theory they are supposed to be a good investment since they are in the business of lending money, I want to also assume that they will have higher rates than TB which also suggest that they are likely to be a little more risky but since people are always borrowing money, I'd like to think they will be in business for a long time and will always need investors.
My personal advice, if you know that during the period the money will be with them your BP will always be high, then don't do it. But if you are willing to take the risk, and not allow your health suffer from fear during the period, then you can invest in them. I think they are under CBN, so they are definitely not in the class of MMM.

Satoshi2019:
Hello gurus. Pls any info on credibility on fixed deposit of Renmoney? Has anyone tried it. Thinking of fixing 1m
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tomtom370: 2:59pm On Jan 25, 2020
This is my reality with a twist.

FBN offers about 9.4% on their Eurobond with a lock in period of 3-5years and minimum deposit of $2,500 but United Capital’s rate is 8% with a lock in period of 30 days at $1,000 entry.

FBN would have been sweet but thinking of the duration and the realities that unfold in this economy, I opted for the United Capital deal.

While expecting the best from life, it’s really good to prepare for the worst as well, that’s why diversification is essential for any diligent mind.

God go help us all.




zamirikpo:


U r just in my head, TB was perfect for me. And with what is happening around naija I don't see myself tying down huge funds for 3--5years, money I may need anytime from now.

My budget is done every year. I sha hope thing improve before July.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Magnetron(m): 3:17pm On Jan 25, 2020
tomtom370:
This is my reality with a twist.

FBN offers about 9.4% on their Eurobond with a lock in period of 3-5years and minimum deposit of $2,500 but United Capital’s rate is 8% with a lock in period of 30 days at $1,000 entry.

FBN would have been sweet but thinking of the duration and the realities that unfold in this economy, I opted for the United Capital deal.

While expecting the best from life, it’s really good to prepare for the worst as well, that’s why diversification is essential for any diligent mind.

God go help us all.

Hello sir, please do you think United capital bond fund is a good investment?



Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:01pm On Jan 25, 2020
[quote author=Magnetron post=86099327][/quote]

United capital is easy to fund, ok customer service.


I'm a little bit apprehensive about adding funds as well, maybe because they're not a bank.

If someone who has used them could enlighten us.


See their funding process.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by billtommy(m): 7:03pm On Jan 25, 2020
According to what I was told about fbn eurobond, minimum holding period is 6 months. But the bond tenor is 3-5 years.....I don't think it should attract any penalty of you take your money in let's say a year after investing. Anybody that is familiar with this should please enlighten us.


tomtom370:
This is my reality with a twist.

FBN offers about 9.4% on their Eurobond with a lock in period of 3-5years and minimum deposit of $2,500 but United Capital’s rate is 8% with a lock in period of 30 days at $1,000 entry.

FBN would have been sweet but thinking of the duration and the realities that unfold in this economy, I opted for the United Capital deal.

While expecting the best from life, it’s really good to prepare for the worst as well, that’s why diversification is essential for any diligent mind.

God go help us all.




Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Jejebabaa: 6:55am On Jan 26, 2020
Nigsrdumb:


I'll tell you what I've gone through so far, my account abroad was shut down because I sent dollars to naija, I also almost lost 1 thousand dollars that got stuck in a corresponding bank.

I really don't know, nothing seems to work properly in naija .

This is strange sir, can you tell us more please as many people on this platform usually send dollars to Naija without any issue with their foreign account

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by codeME: 9:24am On Jan 26, 2020
Hello great people, just seeing this tread and have been reading page by page, i want to be investing a percentage of my profit every month on something, which best way do you think i can go. I will really appreciate good advice. Thanks.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 9:40am On Jan 26, 2020
Since what you want to do is more savings, mutual funds will be your best bet.
Although they are a couple of investment firms you use my preference is for stanbic ibtc mutual funds. You can open it online by sending them a message and they will send you the forms and the kyc requirements, in less than a week you are ready to start putting a part of your income inside it. I do hope you have the discipline to follow through with your plan and not default after 2 months because this is not like school where you get punished for not submitting assignment, instead in this case as in all investments, you are your own supervisor.
Na simple question you be ask o, I come enter de deliver lecture, abeg non vex.
codeME:
Hello great people, just seeing this tread and have been reading page by page, i want to be investing a percentage of my profit every month on something, which best way do you think i can go. I will really appreciate good advice. Thanks.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by codeME: 9:56am On Jan 26, 2020
ojesymsym:
Since what you want to do is more savings, mutual funds will be your best bet.
Although they are a couple of investment firms you use my preference is for stanbic ibtc mutual funds. You can open it online by sending them a message and they will send you the forms and the kyc requirements, in less than a week you are ready to start putting a part of your income inside it. I do hope you have the discipline to follow through with your plan and not default after 2 months because this is not like school where you get punished for not submitting assignment, instead in this case as in all investments, you are your own supervisor.
Na simple question you be ask o, I come enter de deliver lecture, abeg non vex.
hello,
thanks for your prompt response, I will inquire on that, and I love the lecture, good for me, was expecting more. Thanks i really appreciate.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 1:47pm On Jan 26, 2020
billtommy:
According to what I was told about fbn eurobond, minimum holding period is 6 months. But the bond tenor is 3-5 years.....I don't think it should attract any penalty of you take your money in let's say a year after investing. Anybody that is familiar with this should please enlighten us.


Pls can the gurus in bonds pls help us here....

Am very much interested in the answer to the mention above. Of all the ideas flying up and down these few weeks, on this thread , bonds are the surest bet if only.....i can liquidate after a year without any penalties.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 1:50pm On Jan 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
it not easy

At all at all. When will somebody stop pressing calculator every time...... chai.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jan 26, 2020
Jejebabaa:

This is strange sir, can you tell us more please as many people on this platform usually send dollars to Naija without any issue with their foreign account


Everyone's case is different, what I was told is that any payment over 10 k will be flagged automatically on their system.

Whether they contact you or not will be based on certain criteria, for instance if you send a lot over a very short period.

They can ask for compliance paperwork or require you to migrate your account into a business one depending on the circumstances.or flag the tax man.

Anyway better to be careful, d feds are watching.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Donbrig: 2:17pm On Jan 26, 2020
I think there has never been a time in our history with Nigerians having so much money in hand and don't even know how to invest or what to do with it.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Donbrig: 2:21pm On Jan 26, 2020
Nigsrdumb:



Everyone's case is different, what I was told is that any payment over 10 k will be flagged automatically on their system.

Whether they contact you or not will be based on certain criteria, for instance if you send a lot over a very short period.

They can ask for compliance paperwork or require you to migrate your account into a business one depending on the circumstances.or flag the tax man.

Anyway better to be careful, d feds are watching.


This is very very true. Don't send more than 10k dollars or Euro at a goal. They will beam their red light on you.. Always send it instrumentally and take your time in sending it. Once you send over 10k dollars or Euro, you are already classified as a money launderer.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 9jatriot(m): 2:59pm On Jan 26, 2020
I de tell you. As a typical Nigerian who always has someone or something to blame beyond himself, my own scape goat is our educational system. Many of us were brought up to become employees in future, only certain families grown their off springs to become investors or business men in future.
Even some people who run successful businesses do not mentor their kids to follow their path, instead they train them to follow the least path of resistance to become employees so that it gets to a stage where people have money in their hands and suddenly start opening Nairaland threads on what business they can do if they have 5 million for example.

Donbrig:
I think there has never been a time in our history with Nigerians having so much money in hand and don't even know how to invest or what to do with it.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 3:06pm On Jan 26, 2020
9jatriot:
I de tell you. As a typical Nigerian who always has someone or something to blame beyond himself, my own scape goat is our educational system. Many of us were brought up to become employees in future, only certain families grown their off springs to become investors or business men in future.
Even some people who run successful businesses do not mentor their kids to follow their path, instead they train them to follow the least path of resistance to become employees so that it gets to a stage where people have money in their hands and suddenly start opening Nairaland threads on what business they can do if they have 5 million for example.

Very true.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 3:30pm On Jan 26, 2020
9jatriot:
I de tell you. As a typical Nigerian who always has someone or something to blame beyond himself, my own scape goat is our educational system. Many of us were brought up to become employees in future, only certain families grown their off springs to become investors or business men in future.
Even some people who run successful businesses do not mentor their kids to follow their path, instead they train them to follow the least path of resistance to become employees so that it gets to a stage where people have money in their hands and suddenly start opening Nairaland threads on what business they can do if they have 5 million for example.


you have made my sunday with this right up!that is why wt even our degrees most people will still remain poor cos of our faulty education system.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:53pm On Jan 26, 2020
aremso:


you have made my sunday with this right up!that is why wt even our degrees most people will still remain poor cos of our faulty education system.


Don't blame the educational system, the educational system trains us not to make mistakes and to be good employees.
Because we don't want to make mistakes we avoid risks and investments. In investment and business we take calculated risks based on our experience, information and knowledge of the business or investments.

People in big multinational companies collect severance package after retirements that run into N100 million and above, but most of them will become broke in less than 5 years.

Why is it so? I think we have a faulty value system.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 4:02pm On Jan 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



Don't blame the educational system, the educational system trains us not to make mistakes and to be good employees.
Because we don't want to make mistakes we avoid risks and investments. In investment and business we take calculated risks based on our experience, information and knowledge of the business or investments.

People in big multinational companies collect severance package after retirements that run into N100 million and above, but most of them will become broke in less than 5 years.

Why is it so? I think we have a faulty value system.


Very correct, i know of some people that got millions as severance package in Mobil oil around 2007 and today they are in a state of penury even some have even died.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 9jatriot(m): 4:11pm On Jan 26, 2020
I don't know if I should agree or disagree with you.
I have noticed that jews (Isrealites), Lebanese and to some extent Indians are able to run family businesses from one generation to the other. Even when they attend Ivory league schools they still return to their family business and use their knowledge to improve their processes, not so for us here. I guess in that regards we could say value system plays its role here.

emmanuelewumi:



Don't blame the educational system, the educational system trains us not to make mistakes and to be good employees.
Because we don't want to make mistakes we avoid risks and investments. In investment and business we take calculated risks based on our experience, information and knowledge of the business or investments.

People in big multinational companies collect severance package after retirements that run into N100 million and above, but most of them will become broke in less than 5 years.

Why is it so? I think we have a faulty value system.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:33pm On Jan 26, 2020
9jatriot:
I don't know if I should agree or disagree with you.
I have noticed that jews (Isrealites), Lebanese and to some extent Indians are able to run family businesses from one generation to the other. Even when they attend Ivory league schools they still return to their family business and use their knowledge to improve their processes, not so for us here. I guess in that regards we could say value system plays its role here.



Most of them came to Nigeria as blue collar workers and traders, but within 50 to 80 years the family businesses have grown to multi million and multi billion dollar enterprises

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:41pm On Jan 26, 2020
aremso:



Very correct, i know of some people that got millions as severance package in Mobil oil around 2007 and today they are in a state of penury even some have even died.


Most of them will invest in Ponzi scheme, High Yield Investment Programs, businesses that will flop. Some will take their severance package to their pastors and imams to pray over the fund. They will pay tithe, first fruits, sacrifial offering, embarrassing offering, sew different types of seeds, breakthrough offering, exponential growth offering etc.

The best bet is for every worker to Invest on a regular basis while working, do this during your working life. When you do this, whenever you are paid your severance package you already know where you will invest the money and you won't fall for the antics of scammers, spiritualists and smooth talking businessmen.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ibechris(m): 4:51pm On Jan 26, 2020
9jatriot:
I don't know if I should agree or disagree with you.
I have noticed that jews (Isrealites), Lebanese and to some extent Indians are able to run family businesses from one generation to the other. Even when they attend Ivory league schools they still return to their family business and use their knowledge to improve their processes, not so for us here. I guess in that regards we could say value system plays its role here.





Since I was born down to this very day of my existence,I have never met a rich teacher.
Surprisingly, in my 4th year in the University in one of our real estate finance classes,i interjected and boldly asked my lecturer an intelligent lady then,and i said ma, can u teach us how to make money with the application of this course.

Trouble:
She went beserk and said it boldly,I am not hear to teach u and others how to make money,if u want to make money that I should go learn a trade or do something that will give me money.

Since then, I knew no one will teach u how to be successful except u (yourself). It is not about making the money but preserving it by taking certain investible risks. Most educated people in Nigeria are afraid of taking risk,that is why u see these men in business doing well especially these Igbo guys who usually go through years of learning a particular trade and most end up doing so well. It is not about school but mentoring and being able to apply what u have been taught.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tomtom370: 5:23pm On Jan 26, 2020
I see! Thanks for sharing.

I practically missed the 180 days minimum holding period...Guess I have some amendments to make.

If that’s it, then it’s slightly better than United Capital’s offer.

And yes, you won’t be penalised for withdrawal after the 180 days.

Cheers!

billtommy:
According to what I was told about fbn eurobond, minimum holding period is 6 months. But the bond tenor is 3-5 years.....I don't think it should attract any penalty of you take your money in let's say a year after investing. Anybody that is familiar with this should please enlighten us.


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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 5:35pm On Jan 26, 2020
ibechris:





Since I was born down to this very day of my existence,I have never met a rich teacher.
Surprisingly, in my 4th year in the University in one of our real estate finance classes,i interjected and boldly asked my lecturer an intelligent lady then,and i said ma, can u teach us how to make money with the application of this course.

Trouble:
She went beserk and said it boldly,I am not hear to teach u and others how to make money,if u want to make money that I should go learn a trade or do something that will give me money.

Since then, I knew no one will teach u how to be successful except u (yourself). It is not about making the money but preserving it by taking certain investible risks. [b]Most educated people in Nigeria are afraid of taking risk,[/b]that is why u see these men in business doing well especially these Igbo guys who usually go through years of learning a particular trade and most end up doing so well. It is not about school but mentoring and being able to apply what u have been taught.

They're bold when it comes to executing fraud and inflating invoices. It's not restricted to the public sector. It's a problem with several variables. Some folks see mentees as potential competitors
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 5:37pm On Jan 26, 2020
zamirikpo:


U r just in my head, TB was perfect for me. And with what is happening around naija I don't see myself tying down huge funds for 3--5years, money I may need anytime from now.

My budget is done every year. I sha hope thing improve before July.


Same here, I live on yearly budgets. After getting my upfront on tbs, it covers everything for the year and I do reinvest the surplus back to same tbs. But now, things are not working according to plans, affecting everyone around me,cos if my budget is 70 naira for a week but ended up spending 55 naira, I give the remainder to family n friends who need help, i do this randomly, so this normally reduce the number of calls I get regularly for helps. @emmanuelewumi,ahib n others valuable contributors. Bonds seems a bit hard for me to crack for now but still will love to try, what do you think about putting huge funds into mmf, as in all my savings pending the time treasury Bill's will be better. My reason is that : i can pull out of mmf anytime to face tbs full time whenever it bounces back

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