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Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by benji93: 7:26pm On Jan 27, 2020
You can find some important documents published earlier than 1994 in their soft versions. So if you cannot provide information on at least one library that has it or provide a copy of a page out of the book, your information cannot be considered as authentic. It's that simple. I have tried different combinations inorder to find a trace to that document, but to no avail. I cannot conduct research on something, when i don't know where to start from. Perhaps you can provide the link to the youtube video.

For your last statement, that's some bullshit. Every library of decent reputation must have a system that allows you to access their database. So you should be able to find all the books-electronic and hard- they have at any moment in time. That's not laziness. Do you expect me to just go into a library with a collection of over 50000 books and start searching through. Organized libraries usually have sections of the library designated for specific categories of books. You find the section, then the book. Don't come here with that laziness narrative. My access to the library is limited, if the library cannot provide instructions on how to find each of their books.
Empiree:
You went to school right?. This was in 1994. Did computer exist then?.

Yes, they should have put copy on software with invention of computer and tech but they chose not to. So, if you are student of knowledge you owe it to yourself to research. Don't take my word for it.

And truly some people do have hardcopy. I watched it live when a guy was reading it to us few weeks ago on YouTube but the paper copy is almost trash. He could hardly read some sentences bcus the writing faded and paper festered. I will only post the video at you request which means it is in your best interest to learn.

Don't be emotional just bcuz you don't like this revelation. You should rather seek the truth. Actually lazy people rely on software every time. There is a reason we have library
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Nobody: 7:29pm On Jan 27, 2020
Simbrixton:
u support fulani all d time and na still u go dey complain say anoda person dey betray guy i sabi ur type for area abeg

una no dey stay one place always complaining

won kere si number wa


That's because we know the people we are dealing with. They can hardly be trusted.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Dayoara: 7:32pm On Jan 27, 2020
This muric is a major social problem that is causing a set back for the development of this country.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Simbrixton(m): 7:36pm On Jan 27, 2020
Osagyefo98:



That's because we know the people we are dealing with. They can hardly be trusted.
i see how fulani trust you but killed 50 people in uzo uwani goodluck trusting fulani i hope bitterness gets you what you wish for
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by benji93: 7:37pm On Jan 27, 2020
Bullshit. You were the insincere one. Most Nigerians in communicating information tend to do this generally. You indicated that the "church birth certificate" is a requirement, but according to the list of requirements that's only one of three options. You were the one stressing your opinion with the premise that, you must have a church birth certificate to be able to join. That's another level of dishonesty.You were not providing the entire information. When i first saw your initial post, you were clearly communicating your grieveances and basing them on the false information that you need a church birth certificate to get into "Amotekun", so it's unfair. I have provided a reliable source that shows that some churches provide birth certificates, so provide a reliable source that shows that mosques grant birth certificates too. The requirements on birth certificates was clearly based on the information they have, so if they include "church birth certificates" that's alright, as far as other kinds of birth certificates are allowed. So if mosques issue birth certificates, tell us. Simple. Once you see the word " church", the reason for that inclusion has to be religious?
Empiree:
what are you talking about?. You denied initially that birth certificate from church was not a requirement and now you speaking from both sides of your mouth after I presented evidence.

MURIC and Muslims were simply saying 'why did they include church in the first place?'. Why not restrict birth certificate to govt or include birth certificate from Mosque too knowing too well there are Mosques or muslim institutions that give birth certificate. Why only included church?. Now that I opened your yansh you are free to go

I thought you were sincere. Smh

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Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Trump2020: 7:40pm On Jan 27, 2020
benji93:
Actually, i won't lie to you. A large number if not most of the "Muslims" are "Traditional-Muslim" grin. You can call it syncretism. After kewu, na to go "te ifa" grin
You are right.

Early morning you will see respected yorubas especially their women at motor parks wearing white and white with traditional gong begging and invoking the goddess Osun
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jan 27, 2020
Nairaland is making this Islamic Xtremist popular. Why would MOD always push his craps to the front page? This platform is for educating, entertaining and informative....not for all this nonsense by this extremist
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by benji93: 7:49pm On Jan 27, 2020
Sorry, but this wasn't my point exactly. Those women at the motor parks may actually be traditional worshippers. If they are , then that's their choice of religion. But "Muslim" in the morning, "Omo Ifa" at night is a no no.
Trump2020:

You are right.

Early morning you will see respected yorubas especially their women at motor parks wearing white and white with traditional gong begging and invoking the goddess Osun
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Trump2020: 7:55pm On Jan 27, 2020
leksite120:
There's nothing like Yoruba Muslim, Yoruba is Yoruba. I don't support his statement too, but that's what religion has caused , people support religion more than tribe.. The same way South east prefer Yoruba Christians and because of the hate towards Muslims, they'll try to segregate them from the Yoruba Muslims with their words.
Were you guys not the one that taught us that there is difference between a Yoruba Moslem and. Christian
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 7:58pm On Jan 27, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Exactly bruv!

I didn't say you were delusional for nothing cheesy
have a nice day. Never seen your moniker before either
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 7:59pm On Jan 27, 2020
raumdeuter:


What is the religion of someone named Akin Adesokan or Oyeronke Akinlolu
ask them
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Ostrogoth(m): 7:59pm On Jan 27, 2020
Tomide007:
This organization has no relevance even among southwest Muslims that I know....I think they're sponsored by elements outside the SW to bring disunity to the region.
You may have a point here, never thought of it that way but now I see the logic. Yoruba Muslims are very liberal on average and NEVER engage in partisan Islam. MURIC is not even widely accepted or followed by any Muslim sect down here. Seems that this guy is just the front for a northern divide and rule agenda who know very well that we see ourselves first as oduduwa's sons first before we even think or talk about religious differences.

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Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Nobody: 8:02pm On Jan 27, 2020
Simbrixton:
i see how fulani trust you but killed 50 people in uzo uwani goodluck trusting fulani i hope bitterness gets you what you wish for


Stop sounding like better person.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by murmee: 8:04pm On Jan 27, 2020
Tomide007:
This organization has no relevance even among southwest Muslims that I know....I think they're sponsored by elements outside the SW to bring disunity to the region.
The North knows that the only way to bring disunity amongst the Yorubas is to introduce religion disharmony. It is very sad that they have found a good tool to achieve this goal in MURIC. I wonder why reasonable Yoruba muslims cannot call MURIC to order!

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Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Timatayo1: 8:06pm On Jan 27, 2020
Bastard
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 8:07pm On Jan 27, 2020
Laziness is what's worrying you. Nigerians don't like research. You like to have your dinner served to you while you sit on reclining chair.

I have told you they hide this info from the public. Onus is on you to research. If you don't believe now, someone, somewhere in the future will tell you the same thing i just told you and that will trigger your memory what we just discussed here. You will thank me even if you don't see me if this (future) finally happens. Tears will flow down your cheek and you will remember a guy called 'empireee' said this on NAIRALAND years ago
benji93:
You can find some important documents published earlier than 1994 in their soft versions. So if you cannot provide information on at least one library that has it or provide a copy of a page out of the book, your information cannot be considered as authentic. It's that simple. I have tried different combinations inorder to find a trace to that document, but to no avail. I cannot conduct research on something, when i don't know where to start from. Perhaps you can provide the link to the youtube video.

For your last statement, that's some bullshit. Every library of decent reputation must have a system that allows you to access their database. So you should be able to find all the books-electronic and hard- they have at any moment in time. That's not laziness. Do you expect me to just go into a library with a collection of over 50000 books and start searching through. Organized libraries usually have sections of the library designated for specific categories of books. You find the section, then the book. Don't come here with that laziness narrative. My access to the library is limited, if the library cannot provide instructions on how to find each of their books.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by proff010: 8:10pm On Jan 27, 2020
I don't understand! What is the meaning of this?
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Rigidbuildings(m): 8:10pm On Jan 27, 2020
References:
The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) has called on Governors of Southwest States to allow the Operation Amotekun embrace all citizens living in the sub-region.

MURIC also advised that the new security organization should not lean towards any religion or target any ethnic group for victimization.

The call was made in a statement on Monday issued to DAILY POST by the Director of the human rights organization, Prof. Ishaq Akintola.

This was sequel to the resolution of the governors of the South West to give a legal backing to the Amotekun security outfit.

The statement added, “No homo sapien compos mentis living in Yorubaland will oppose the setting up of a security outfit to complement the existing security agencies on ground (the army, police, NNDC, DSS, etc).

“We all want lives and properties secured all over Nigeria. That is why people living on every street have security arrangements in place while some individuals also have both day and night guards in their private offices and homes.

“It is therefore mischievous to give the impression that Muslims are against the South West security initiative. No reasonable Nigerian today will frown at attempts to boost security in any part of the country. What we oppose is the religious and ethnic tinge which the handlers gave Amotekun.

“You cannot blame Muslims for crying out when you ask them to bring birth certificates from churches before joining Amotekun. Neither can you expect them to stand akimbo when you tell them to bring letters of recommendation from churches.

“Muslims in the Yoruba enclave are not opposing Amotekun per se. What they oppose is a situation where a ostensibly anti-Islam security outfit comes into operation in Yorubaland.

“Apart from the reference to birth certificates from churches and letters of reference from pastors, the choice of nomenclature is another controversial issue because it has a strong Christian identity.

“Why ‘Amotekun’ as a name for crying out loud? Research has revealed the biblical origin of this name and it makes Muslims suspicious. Why Amotekun of all brands?

“Jeremiah 5:6 says, ‘A leopard shall guard over their city’. Amotekun is mentioned in this verse with particular reference to guarding a city.

“Now, we have a sub-region where Muslims have been under persecution for ages coming up with a security outfit under the name of the same leopard mentioned in the bible as a guard over the city.

“This is not a coincidence. The handlers of Amotekun picked the name deliberately from the bible in order to score a spiritual point. It is very critical. It calls for serious concern. So why give a security unit a religious name?

“We advise the planners of the new security outfit to give it another name in the interest of peace and harmony in the sub-region. This is necessary if they want to carry all stakeholders along. Amotekun as a name is already controversial. We do not need a Christian security unit.

“Neither do we need a Muslim security outfit. The security agency in the South West must not only be neutral, it must also be seen to be neutral.

“We affirm that Muslims form the majority in the population of the South West. They are therefore critical stakeholders and the unity of the Yoruba cannot become fait accompli without involving the Muslims in the sub-region. Muslims must be carried along in any security network in the zone. We are interested in security.

“We are security conscious. We will therefore join a South West security initiative if it is not tainted with Christian landmarks. We will have confidence in a security outfit that involves Muslim leaders, not one that parades pastors, bishops and archbishops alone.

“It must also be noted that a security group that starts with subtle threats to our brethren in faith in another part of the country cannot be safe for Muslims in Yorubaland. There is no racism or tribalism in Islam (Qur’an 49:13). It is a global brotherhood. Yoruba Muslims love Yorubaland.

“They also love Nigeria. But they owe their Creator, Allah, an unflinching and undiluted love towards their brothers and sisters in Islam no matter their race, tribe or colour. From Allah we came and unto Allah we shall return.

“On that Day, nobody will be judged on the basis of his tribe but on the basis of his deeds on earth. Nonetheless, we believe in a united Nigeria and we will support a security unit that constitutes no threat to any tribe in the country, be it Igbo, Fulani, Ijaw, or Tiv.

“However, the latest assurance coming from certain quarters that birth certificates from churches and letters of reference from pastors was not part of the original pre-requisites is most welcome.

“MURIC will support any security arrangement anywhere in Nigeria so long as such arrangement is devoid of gymnastic religiousity and acrobatic ethnicity.

“In addition, the organisers of Amotekun must desist from attempts to intimidate perceived opponents of the scheme. Leaders of the group must caution their foot-soldiers against excesses.

“They must distance themselves from arm-twisting gimmicks like deliberately misinterpreting statements made by people who oppose the Amotekun idea.

“For instance, MURIC has very strong evidence that some elements in the Amotekun camp have issued death threats to its leader. That is unacceptable. It is an attempt to silence opposition.

“All opinions must be allowed in a democracy. That is freedom of speech. Those who attempt to muzzle opinions give the impression that they have hidden agenda. It presupposes that the Amotekun security project will be biased and unprofessional when it finally comes on board. We refuse to be intimidated. It changes nothing in our stand and style of advocacy.

“In a nutshell, as the organisers deliberate on the legal framework to back the complementary security project in the South West, we advise that such legal framework includes a clause that lays emphasis on religious neutrality, security for all citizens residing in Yorubaland regardless of their ethnic background and a new name which is acceptable to all faiths.”

https://dailypost.ng/2020/01/27/amotekun-islamic-group-sends-message-to-southwest-governors/


The northerners reactions since the introduction of AMOTEKUN have been mysterious! It is obvious they have bad plans for Nigerian. More reason why they have been unsettled. May their evil thoughts never come to reality. We don’t want a civil war. We just need the protection of the Yoruba community. GOD bless ODUDUWA
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 8:12pm On Jan 27, 2020
benji93:
Bullshit. You were the insincere one. Most Nigerians in communicating information tend to do this generally. You indicated that the "church birth certificate" is a requirement, but according to the list of requirements that's only one of three options. You were the one stressing your opinion with the premise that, you must have a church birth certificate to be able to join. That's another level of dishonesty.You were not providing the entire information. When i first saw your initial post, you were clearly communicating your grieveances and basing them on the false information that you need a church birth certificate to get into "Amotekun", so it's unfair. I have provided a reliable source that shows that some churches provide birth certificates, so provide a reliable source that shows that mosques grant birth certificates too. The requirements on birth certificates was clearly based on the information they have, so if they include "church birth certificates" that's alright, as far as other kinds of birth certificates are allowed. So if mosques issue birth certificates, tell us. Simple. Once you see the word " church", the reason for that inclusion has to be religious?
why was birth certificate from Mosque not an option?. I don't need your essay. Just answer the question.

Why only church included while there is substantial amount of Muslims in the country and Muslim institutions that issue birth certificate?. Is Nigeria CHRISTIAN county?
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by adecz: 8:14pm On Jan 27, 2020
Just raising a point.


Southerners are not as obsessed
with religion like the north that take it
as do or die.


They always bring religion into
everything.


Takara:

So Amotekun is supposed to be the Christian response to Hisbah? Yo have vindicated MURIC
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Jonathan39: 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2020
But Nnamdi kanu is representing us the Igbos. Don't drag Nnamdi kanu into your mess
Taeewo:
He is not representing we muslim..

You guys should just take note on that, anything he says should just see as what Nnamdi Kanu too do say.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by benji93: 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2020
Hey Bros, you don't know me, so don't bring the laziness bullshit. I infact strongly advocate one conducts research before dumping information in the public space. You cannot provide a youtube link and you cannot give us any information on how any piece of that piece can be obtained. You obviously cannot support your argument, hence your resort to ascribing the non-availability of information to my laziness. Now, they hide this info from the public? grin If it cannot be verified, why then are you emphasizing on the point. I wish you well in your endeavours.
Empiree:
Laziness is what's worrying you. Nigerians don't like research. You like to have your dinner served to you while you sit on reclining chair.

I have told you they hide this info from the public. Onus is on you to research. If you don't believe now, someone, somewhere in the future will tell you the same thing i just told you and that will trigger your memory what we just discussed here. You will thank me even if you don't see me if this (future) finally happens. Tears will flow down your cheek and you will remember a guy called 'empireee' said this on NAIRALAND years ago
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Suremikky(m): 8:19pm On Jan 27, 2020
I don't have strength to start reading this long nonsense..when innocent people were been killed on daily bases this goat did not come out to say Jack...their father
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by murmee: 8:20pm On Jan 27, 2020
Sterope:
“You cannot blame Muslims for crying out when you ask them to bring birth certificates from churches before joining Amotekun'

I saw the silly requirement. They better see to it. The draftsman should be questioned.
The organizers of Amotekun would have asked the Muslims to bring letters of recommendation from the mosques or alfas. Most OPC members are muslims and Christians never complained!
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Kokoebapluse(m): 8:27pm On Jan 27, 2020
I like dix man, Yoruba ni ohnbo ohnbo awon landede, there won't be any region security dominate by Muslim or Christan, both 3 religion in Yoruba will take part

Muslim
Christan
Iseshe

We re all one in Yoruba land but if Christian try nonsense, we will let them know that Jesus know nothing about Christianity, and Christian visit Jerusalem is a wasting of money, no separation in Yoruba land ooo
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by pieces18: 8:30pm On Jan 27, 2020
Yoruba's as a matter of urgency find a way of dealing with this traitor living in their means. But where exactly did he come from? And it seems the man has a problem with his brain. But on a serious note, this man is trying very hard to sow seeds of hatred among the most united region of this country. Tackle this traitor before he imports BH to your region.

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Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Samunique(m): 8:41pm On Jan 27, 2020
Empiree:
are you crazy?. Look at the bolded. Did you read CAN (Christian Association Of Nigeria) manifesto in 1994?. It contained deadly statements that divided Muslims and Christians in Nigeria and especially Yoruba. MURIC knows exactly what he's saying. He and many muslims have read the Christian manifesto published in 1994. I advise you to please look for it. It is not available online. It is hidden in library. The manifesto was the reason north set up Sharia. Christians in Nigeria wanted to take over the country in the 90s with the help of Israel, UK and US funding.

CAN and CHRISTIAN organizations Nigeria delibrately hide this manifesto. The day you guys read it you will begin to understand Muslims. Ask your pastors. Ask Adeboye, Oyedepo they know about it.

Allow me to paraphrase one of the statements in their manifesto.

"We pray God to destroy Islam in Nigeria and cause misunderstanding amongst Muslims"


Please people look for CHRISTIAN MANIFESTO IN NIGERIA PUBLISHED IN 1994.

THANKS
I've been a Christian for quite a while and have never heard anything like Christian manifesto.

Pls u will do yourself a whole lot of good if u can provide us with evidence that this actually exsits or you remain silent forever.

It's only a lair lie u that will say, "his witnesses are no more alive that they're in heaven.

How can you make this bogus alegation without any substantial evidence

Fanactism is a disease !!!
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Insectkiller: 8:42pm On Jan 27, 2020
I don't need to read this message..it will definitely be from that dafttt man called 'MURIC'

The message must definitely be a meaningless one.

OP Next!!!

shocked shocked
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 8:43pm On Jan 27, 2020
benji93:
Hey Bros, you don't know me, so don't bring the laziness bullshit. I infact strongly advocate one conducts research before dumping information in the public space. You cannot provide a youtube link and you cannot give us any information on how any piece of that piece can be obtained. You obviously cannot support your argument, hence your resort to ascribing the non-availability of information to my laziness. Now, they hide this info from the public? grin If it cannot be verified, why then are you emphasizing on the point. I wish you well in your endeavours.
it must be emphasized today bcus their plan back in the 90s has played out and still playing out exactly as written in their 1994 manifesto. As I said before you don't have to believe. In the future you may overhead conversation about it from someone that will trigger your memory what we just discussed today.

I have more info but since your reaction is somehow bemoaning I will hold on. I only respect you for fact that you responded compared to others who perhaps know what I'm saying but they didn't want to drag it.

You make it sound as if I'm just telling you that they hide the info. I said this at outstart of our discussions. You ever heard of censorship?. You think they put everything out there for the masses?. My advise is for you to look beyond religion. So long as you see those pastors as your brothers it will hinder your investigation or research. They are crooks.
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Empiree: 8:45pm On Jan 27, 2020
U went to school for a reason, correct?. I believe you are a good student of knowledge. Therefore, with this little info you receive I will urge you to do your comprehensive research
Samunique:
I've been a Christian for quite a while and have never heard anything like Christian manifesto.

Pls u will do yourself a whole lot of good if u can provide us with evidence that this actually exsits or you remain silent forever.

It's only a lair lie u that will say, "his witnesses are no more alive that they're in heaven.

How can you make this bogus alegation without any substantial evidence

Fanactism is a disease !!!
Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Jonathan39: 8:50pm On Jan 27, 2020
Stop decieving yourself, you are not Igbo and don't represent the Igbo... Idiot
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