EMILO2STAY: the moon rotates like a wheel through out the night if you can stay awake to observe the phenomena, don't be silly.
The fact that stars have been seen through the moon is nothing new, it is only new to those who are. Novices like you with half baked education. Even somtimes during the day you could see the blue sky through the moon. How is that possible on a ball of rock?
It a pity now you resort to verbal abuse and personal attack for someone who sees himself as an intellectual who came to educate the younger ones. I basically taught you your own relativity science which you called newtonian mechanics. You should be ashamed of your self to be bested by a mad man, that goes a long way in exposing your level of mental state.
EMILO2STAY: the moon rotates like a wheel through out the night if you can stay awake to observe the phenomena, don't be silly.
The fact that stars have been seen through the moon is nothing new, it is only new to those who are. Novices like you with half baked education. Even somtimes during the day you could see the blue sky through the moon. How is that possible on a ball of rock?
It a pity now you resort to verbal abuse and personal attack for someone who sees himself as an intellectual who came to educate the younger ones. I basically taught you your own relativity science which you called newtonian mechanics. You should be ashamed of your self to be bested by a mad man, that goes a long way in exposing your level of mental state.
EMILO2STAY: this is not about ego but about the truth. Since you don't know about the phenomena of the sun and moon seen in the sky during a lunar eclipse then it shows that your a novice in this field. What you are looking for is called selenelion or so by the heliocentrist priest who try to explain it away as a refraction.
You can actually make a model of the flat earth simulating the reality and every day experience as our common sense tells us today with the ocean waters level and the buildings with every other object in all the continents standing upright on the earth crust and the sun and moon and stars going round the circumference of the earth as it is observed on earth.
But you cannot make a model of the earth that simulates reality common sense and every day experience with a ball, because buildings and every other object on the continent will be upside down and some side ways which does not in any way simulate what we experience on earth at all,
you cannot make a model of the ball earth with the sun 93million miles away, 400times bigger than the moon and have a solar eclipse as we see it in reality.
You cannot make a model of the ball earth that explains the midnight sun,
you cannot make model of the spinning ball earth that explains why Polaris the north pole star is still standing in the north pole century after century,
you cannot make a model of the spinning ball earth that explains the difference in seasons between the northern and southern hemispheres,
you cannot make a model of the spinning ball earth that explains why aircraft fly horizontally till they get to their destination were ever they are flying to on the earth,
you cannot make a model of the spinning ball earth that explains why shadows under the sun light moves clock wise as that is an evidence that indicates that the sun is moving and not the earth,
you cannot make a model of the spinning ball earth that explains why stars are rotating like one giant body in the sky,
you cannot make a model of the ball earth that explains why the equator should be the hottest part of the earth. You cannot make a model of the ball earth that explains why it is wider the farther south travelled the wider the earth becomes as the ball earth presents a different configuration in the southern hemisphere than the flat earth,
You cannot make a model of the ball earth that explains why the British navy challenger covered 60,000miles while circumnavigating the southern circumference a distance enough to take her four times on the ball earth configuration.
I can go on and on but just to give you a few problems with the ball earth theory and to let you know that what you call science is the true gibberish. But every problem of the ball earth listed above is best explained with the flat earth reality.
There's free 3d software. Download SketchUp free for your laptop. Create your model. I'll create mine. We upload and compare.
You game?
I'll like to bet 100k 500k you won't get the signs of the heavens cos won't be feasible on your model.
There's free 3d software. Download SketchUp free for your laptop. Create your model. I'll create mine. We upload and compare.
You game?
I'll like to bet 100k 500k you won't get the signs of the heavens cos won't be feasible on your model.
quite beeing desperate go and rest. I smell naivety within you. The person you called a mad man is same person you want to palace a bet of 500k with, have you ever seen any body in your life placing a bet of 500k with a mad man? this also goes to show that you are even madder than the mad man. Just don't quote me again pls disappear with your sillyness.
EMILO2STAY: quite beeing desperate go and rest. I smell naivety within you. The person you called a mad man is same person you want to palace a bet of 500k with, have you ever seen any body in your life placing a bet of 500k with a mad man? this also goes to show that you are even madder than the mad man. Just don't quote me again pls disappear with your sillyness.
I'm ready to bet a 1,000,000 since you're not mad.
See all your flat brain destroyed
For me to believe the flat Earth. Where's the REAL picture of the whole flat Earth with the sun and the moon. Yes that's right it doesn't exist. Flat Earth doesn't exist.
I'm ready to bet a 1,000,000 since you're not mad.
See all your flat brain destroyed
For me to believe the flat Earth. Where's the REAL picture of the whole flat Earth with the sun and the moon. Yes that's right it doesn't exist. Flat Earth doesn't exist.
Sir, this man's brain must be in the workshop getting repaired. If I were you, I'd leave him to enjoy his stupid illusions. Show him scientific evidence and he resorts to dodging them like they were bullets. Arguing with this man puts you at risk of lowering your IQ
abbeg: Sir, this man's brain must be in the workshop getting repaired. If I were you, I'd leave him to enjoy his stupid illusions. Show him scientific evidence and he resorts to dodging them like they were bullets. Arguing with this man puts you at risk of lowering your IQ
am still waiting for you to show me that your own brain is not in the work shop by giving me tested and proved evidence that the earth is round and the sun is truely accurately 93million miles from the earth. Pls do this and shame me or ignore it and shame your self for your foolery.
EMILO2STAY: am still waiting for you to show me that your own brain is not in the work shop by giving me tested and proved evidence that the earth is round and the sun is truely accurately 93million miles from the earth. Pls do this and shame me or ignore it and shame your self for your foolery.
Learn maths. Secondary school maths.
Buy Engineering mathematics and start from number line till like trigonometry. You don't need to get to imaginary numbers.
Learn, then you start doing proper calculations.
If you must know YouTube monetizing makes a lot of money. They need unlearned paranoid people like you to monetize videos by views.
It's not anyone's fault you don't know math.
There's another new theory you need to jump on. "The Earth is a cone" since you are very gullible.
It's on record that your Flat Brain overlords globebusters and jeranism now know the Earth is a sphere but they have kept it from you followers. They will just keep milking you for views.
Buy Engineering mathematics and start from number line till like trigonometry. You don't need to get to imaginary numbers.
Learn, then you start doing proper calculations.
If you must know YouTube monetizing makes a lot of money. They need unlearned paranoid people like you to monetize videos by views.
It's not anyone's fault you don't know math.
There's another new theory you need to jump on. "The Earth is a cone" since you are very gullible.
It's on record that your Flat Brain overlords globebusters and jeranism now know the Earth is a sphere but they have kept it from you followers. They will just keep milking you for views.
keep your stupidity and silly ego to yourself stop typing trash to me. If you have nothing meaningful to say just keep quiet. Am still waiting for your other silly partner, "abbeg" to give me the tested and proven data which confirms that the earth is curved 8inches /mile^2 and the sun 93million miles away. This is day two and I have not seen Him. You can help him out since you studied engineering maths and trigonometry. If you can't pls and pls shut the hell up and never quote me again with your stupidity.
EMILO2STAY: keep your stupidity and silly ego to yourself stop typing trash to me. If you have nothing meaningful to say just keep quiet. Am still waiting for your other silly partner, "abbeg" to give me the tested and proven data which confirms that the earth is curved 8inches /mile^2 and the sun 93million miles away. This is day two and I have not seen Him. You can help him out since you studied engineering maths and trigonometry. If you can't pls and pls shut the hell up and never quote me again with your stupidity.
Wait wait....so now you want to claim that you gave me a question and I ran away? "till this day I haven't seen him" be honest here, which of us is the one dodging questions? I have answered you several times; you haven't answered me ONCE (unless you count your pathetic attempt at copying and pasting that other guy's write up as an answer ) and now you want to use me to lie? Ok, let me explain for the HUNDRETH time: earth is indeed curved approx 8.5"(a bit longer than a 15cm math set ruler) per mile. Now to someone who skipped maths class like you, that seems like a HUUUUUUGE curve,and should be noticeable just by glancing at it. Now, picture this: a mile=around 12 football fields end on end. TWELVE! so, that means the tip of the first field should be 8.5" higher than the end of the12th field. Do you see how tiny a difference it makes? But noooooo, you want the earth to curve like an orange under your feet. Now, if the sun was just above our heads, where do the other planets get their sunlight from? And their seasons? Why does the sun dip beneath the horizon at sunset if it's circles above our heads? Or are sunsets another NASA lie? And it takes sun light 8.5(would you look at that) minutes to reach earth. Doing the math, That equals around 90million kilometers. Also explain how particles from outer space penetrate the "dome" that a nuke allegedly couldn't destroy to react with Earth's magnetic field to make aurora borealis Explain how volcanos get their lava if earth is a pancake Explain how meteorites reach earth Explain how satellite phones work in the middle of the ocean Explain how someone standing in Antarctica can't see Polaris. Explain why I can't zoom a telescope to the South and see the 'ice wall'. I understand Telescopes are more powerful than the "almighty P900" and if earth is flat, no curvature to stop me. Explain how flying round the world in a straight line works And for Pete's sake,
Buy Engineering mathematics and start from number line till like trigonometry. You don't need to get to imaginary numbers.
Learn, then you start doing proper calculations.
If you must know YouTube monetizing makes a lot of money. They need unlearned paranoid people like you to monetize videos by views.
It's not anyone's fault you don't know math.
There's another new theory you need to jump on. "The Earth is a cone" since you are very gullible.
It's on record that your Flat Brain overlords globebusters and jeranism now know the Earth is a sphere but they have kept it from you followers. They will just keep milking you for views.
good lord! this is like exterminating someone with a basuka at close range. so horrifying that even I his enemy is pitiful. goddamn.. nonetheless, ahahshshshhshshahahahahahahahahahahahahahashhaah
abbeg: Wait wait....so now you want to claim that you gave me a question and I ran away? "till this day I haven't seen him" be honest here, which of us is the one dodging questions? I have answered you several times; you haven't answered me ONCE (unless you count your pathetic attempt at copying and pasting that other guy's write up as an answer ) and now you want to use me to lie? Ok, let me explain for the HUNDRETH time: earth is indeed curved approx 8.5"(a bit longer than a 15cm math set ruler) per mile. Now to someone who skipped maths class like you, that seems like a HUUUUUUGE curve,and should be noticeable just by glancing at it. Now, picture this: a mile=around 12 football fields end on end. TWELVE! so, that means the tip of the first field should be 8.5" higher than the end of the12th field. Do you see how tiny a difference it makes? But noooooo, you want the earth to curve like an orange under your feet. Now, if the sun was just above our heads, where do the other planets get their sunlight from? And their seasons? Why does the sun dip beneath the horizon at sunset if it's circles above our heads? Or are sunsets another NASA lie? And it takes sun light 8.5(would you look at that) minutes to reach earth. Doing the math, That equals around 90million kilometers. Also explain how particles from outer space penetrate the "dome" that a nuke allegedly couldn't destroy to react with Earth's magnetic field to make aurora borealis Explain how volcanos get their lava if earth is a pancake Explain how meteorites reach earth Explain how satellite phones work in the middle of the ocean Explain how someone standing in Antarctica can't see Polaris. Explain why I can't zoom a telescope to the South and see the 'ice wall'. I understand Telescopes are more powerful than the "almighty P900" and if earth is flat, no curvature to stop me. Explain how flying round the world in a straight line works And for Pete's sake,
EXPLAIN HOW ECLIPSES WORK ON A FLAT EARTH
You are assuming you are talking to a sane person. You are just wasting your bandwidth.
abbeg: Wait wait....so now you want to claim that you gave me a question and I ran away? "till this day I haven't seen him" be honest here, which of us is the one dodging questions? I have answered you several times; you haven't answered me ONCE (unless you count your pathetic attempt at copying and pasting that other guy's write up as an answer ) and now you want to use me to lie? Ok, let me explain for the HUNDRETH time: earth is indeed curved approx 8.5"(a bit longer than a 15cm math set ruler) per mile. Now to someone who skipped maths class like you, that seems like a HUUUUUUGE curve,and should be noticeable just by glancing at it. Now, picture this: a mile=around 12 football fields end on end. TWELVE! so, that means the tip of the first field should be 8.5" higher than the end of the12th field. Do you see how tiny a difference it makes? But noooooo, you want the earth to curve like an orange under your feet. Now, if the sun was just above our heads, where do the other planets get their sunlight from? And their seasons? Why does the sun dip beneath the horizon at sunset if it's circles above our heads? Or are sunsets another NASA lie? And it takes sun light 8.5(would you look at that) minutes to reach earth. Doing the math, That equals around 90million kilometers. Also explain how particles from outer space penetrate the "dome" that a nuke allegedly couldn't destroy to react with Earth's magnetic field to make aurora borealis Explain how volcanos get their lava if earth is a pancake Explain how meteorites reach earth Explain how satellite phones work in the middle of the ocean Explain how someone standing in Antarctica can't see Polaris. Explain why I can't zoom a telescope to the South and see the 'ice wall'. I understand Telescopes are more powerful than the "almighty P900" and if earth is flat, no curvature to stop me. Explain how flying round the world in a straight line works And for Pete's sake,
EXPLAIN HOW ECLIPSES WORK ON A FLAT EARTH
stop your silly busy body attitude and be reasonable. I said give me a tested and proved data that I can easily carry out an experiment on and confirm it to be true but you keep regurgitating the same thing that has no basis in reality. were is the tested and proved data that a 12 football fields is curved 8inches /m? !! Let me give you an example of what I mean : if the earth is a globe and 25,000 miles in circumference the surface of any standing water mist have a certain level of convexity, every part must be an arc of a circle. From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature of 8inches in the first mile, in the second mile 32, the third 72inch or 6 feet. Now in cambridge county england there is an artificial canal called the old bed ford. It is about 20 miles in length . Dr Samuel rowbotham arranged a boat with a flag of 5ft above the surface of the water. The boat sailed away from rowbotham six statute miles in a straight line. Rowbotham got into the water with a telescope standing 8inches above the water, now in looking through the telescope and observed the receding boat during the whole period the flag and the boat were still visible through out the whole distance. If the earth was curved 8inches /m as supposed, the flag should be 11 ft and 8inches below the horizon.
This is an experiment you can carry out your self over the surface of any water and confirm if the earth is curved or not. Another one of many is the dunkerque light house in France which is 194ft high and visible from 28statute miles away. The calculations using the 8inch /m rule shows it ought be 190ft below the horizon. Now I mentioned these examples because they are been tested and proven facts out of many. This is what I expect from you but have failed in doing so but have proven your self to be a waste of my time. This is the second time I am giving an example you can carry out by your self, the first is the sun dial showing that the sum moves above the earth but you downplayed it with no prove but your usual busy body self and this is the reason I ignore d you initially.
Let me also add that there is no data proving the sun to be 93million miles away it was purely guess work. Your 8.5whatever equaling 90 million kilometers is wrong 93 million miles equally 150kilometers so you are very wrong. In the end you have only proven to be a time waster and a numb skull who can't prove nothing but make empty noise. Give me proven data like I have shown you otherwise don't quote me because I won't reply.
stop your silly busy body attitude and be reasonable. I said give me a tested and proved data that I can easily carry out an experiment on and confirm it to be true...
Are you suggesting he should spend his time and effort to educate you out of your ignorance that many have tried unsuccessfully to educate you out of in numerous threads and on 14 pages in this thread?
Please, don't allow anyone to deceive you! The earth is indeed most definitely flat and if you walk all the way to its edge you'd fall off!
Very good example of a ship visible over the horizon due to refraction. As you see, the ship is actually dipping beneath the horizon, but due to refraction, it appears stationery. The logo on its side exposes how refraction nearly doubles the hull to make it appear normal. This is best observed when the water is warmer than the air. But of course, flat brains wont try it. Insyead they'll cherrypick temperatures and humidity in which their bullshite experiments could come out unscathed. This is the biggest problem of flat earth society: Wrongly carried out experiments.
EMILO2STAY: still spewing empty words proving nothing?
Wallace was a cheat and did not follow rowbothams method but devices a fraudulent method that did not even prove his claim but still claimed it did which is the reason why the court ordered him to return the bet he claimed he won. The bedford level experiment was one of many rowbothams experiment another is the port Nicholson light house in new Zealand which is visible 35miles away at the altitude of 420 miles away from sea level. If the water os convex it ought to be 220 ft below horizon but it is not. Just like you an evolutionist called schadwald tried but failed to prove rowbotham wrong but failed, he claimed visible objects seen on water at great distance is due to refractions. However his refraction theories failed to explain the visibility of lighthouses that should have been below the horizon if the earth was round He was left scratching his head and in the end he agrees rowbotham was right.
Another example is proving the flat earth is the Chicago skyline. Which can be seen 57miles away from grand mere park. Let us calculate the position of Chicago I relation to grand mere park.
Assuming that the earth is a globe 8inches /m
G. M. P= 600ft above sea level
Lake michigan =577ft above sea level
600-577=23
Therefore G. M. P = 23ft above lake michigan
Let us assume that the viewer is at the highest point in G. M. P. we will add 6ft for the hight of the viewer. We come up with an estimate that he used a camera/telescope which is 29ft above lake michigan (23+6=29)
We subtract 7mikes from the distance of 57miles to account for the 29ft elevation of the camera/telescope ( 29ft drop to horizon is approx. 6.6^2 miles × 8inches ) so we have only 50 miles.
Calculating the curvature of the earth using the 50miles distance we find that the Chicago skyline should be 1667ft below the horizon if the earth was round and curved 8inches /m^2 but magically it could still be seen 57miles away ( 50^2 × 8inches= 1667)
Sundials cannot work on a ball earth model with a stationary sun don't be ignorant on purpose try the experiment and see. If you claims it is then show proof of it not just saying it for defence when you have no proof. I challenge you to show me proof. Initially you claimed it is impossible unless you get an imaginary big stick now you are saying it works on both you must be demented . And that 90kilometer wasn't a typo it is an evidence of your ignorance. Otherwise you will correct yourself and put up proof showing a tried and tested method used to calculate the distance of the sun.
If the earth was a ball spinning and moving in space why will Polaris still be standing at the north pole century after century.
You think you have questions?, you have nothing!! I will not answer any because I have answered some of them before and will not answered the rest because you haven't answered mine I have questions i can throw at you enough to fill up nairaland. So stop with your silly questions and answer mine because I asked first when you said you believe in tested and proven data.
Let me also add that the surface of water is the best to conduct experiment on the earths rotundity because even globe earthers like you claim ships disappear across the curvature of the earth on water. And also the natural physics of water is that it stays level no matter the shape of its container.
If the earth were flat you'll see the bottom of the skyline. Why can't we see the bottom of the skyline? No amount of zooming ever showed the bottom.
PS: all images of flat Earth are CGI. Flat earth doesn't exist.
EMILO2STAY: still spewing empty words proving nothing?
Wallace was a cheat and did not follow rowbothams method but devices a fraudulent method that did not even prove his claim but still claimed it did which is the reason why the court ordered him to return the bet he claimed he won. The bedford level experiment was one of many rowbothams experiment another is the port Nicholson light house in new Zealand which is visible 35miles away at the altitude of 420 miles away from sea level. If the water os convex it ought to be 220 ft below horizon but it is not. Just like you an evolutionist called schadwald tried but failed to prove rowbotham wrong but failed, he claimed visible objects seen on water at great distance is due to refractions. However his refraction theories failed to explain the visibility of lighthouses that should have been below the horizon if the earth was round He was left scratching his head and in the end he agrees rowbotham was right.
Another example is proving the flat earth is the Chicago skyline. Which can be seen 57miles away from grand mere park. Let us calculate the position of Chicago I relation to grand mere park.
Assuming that the earth is a globe 8inches /m
G. M. P= 600ft above sea level
Lake michigan =577ft above sea level
600-577=23
Therefore G. M. P = 23ft above lake michigan
Let us assume that the viewer is at the highest point in G. M. P. we will add 6ft for the hight of the viewer. We come up with an estimate that he used a camera/telescope which is 29ft above lake michigan (23+6=29)
We subtract 7mikes from the distance of 57miles to account for the 29ft elevation of the camera/telescope ( 29ft drop to horizon is approx. 6.6^2 miles × 8inches ) so we have only 50 miles.
Calculating the curvature of the earth using the 50miles distance we find that the Chicago skyline should be 1667ft below the horizon if the earth was round and curved 8inches /m^2 but magically it could still be seen 57miles away ( 50^2 × 8inches= 1667)
Sundials cannot work on a ball earth model with a stationary sun don't be ignorant on purpose try the experiment and see. If you claims it is then show proof of it not just saying it for defence when you have no proof. I challenge you to show me proof. Initially you claimed it is impossible unless you get an imaginary big stick now you are saying it works on both you must be demented . And that 90kilometer wasn't a typo it is an evidence of your ignorance. Otherwise you will correct yourself and put up proof showing a tried and tested method used to calculate the distance of the sun.
If the earth was a ball spinning and moving in space why will Polaris still be standing at the north pole century after century.
You think you have questions?, you have nothing!! I will not answer any because I have answered some of them before and will not answered the rest because you haven't answered mine I have questions i can throw at you enough to fill up nairaland. So stop with your silly questions and answer mine because I asked first when you said you believe in tested and proven data.
Let me also add that the surface of water is the best to conduct experiment on the earths rotundity because even globe earthers like you claim ships disappear across the curvature of the earth on water. And also the natural physics of water is that it stays level no matter the shape of its container.
