FOLYKAZE:


I have been trying to find it but can't identify it among the million of stars.

Is there any specific feature that one can use to identify this is venus and this mercury, not stars?

Horlufemi:


Mercury is hard (maybe because of Lagos pollution) But Venus, you can't miss it. Very obvious, it's usually the bright object in the Western sky before sunsets. They follow the sun closely.


1. To the unaided eye, these planets appear starlike. 2. However, the planets moved relative to the stars. For this reason they were called wandering stars. Our word "planet" comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning "wanderer."

I've posted the current config of the sky.

You need to know constellations and identity them to be see the planets move. It take weeks to see the movement.

Use sky map to help you track them easily you will see

FOLYKAZE:


Thanks for the headup. I live in Ondo state though and would see if I can see the venus. Will give it a trial this week.

wirinet:

Arguing senselessly like you are arguing with an ignorant 6 year old can be mentally exhaustinb and frustrating. Very few people are still interested in stupid arguments with flat earthers, even on facebook and other online platforms.

Venus that was seen by ancient Babylonians, venus that was seen and worshiped as a god by the ancient Romans, venus that is the third brightest object in the night sky, after the moon and sun, is an object someone living in the 21st century cannot be seen from the earth. Is there a better definition of insanity?

How can anyone counter a single flat earth claim, when you guys are yet to provide just one single evidence of the claims.


Why not present the video of the amateur rocket hitting an invisible barrier. It would me almost impossible for an amateur to build a rocket powerful enough to reach earth's orbit. It's takes a rocket that can travel at 11km/s to break the Earth's gravitational field. NASA, Spaces and co spend millions of dollars to send rockets into orbit.


Link where NASA admitted they have never been beyond low earth orbit. So NASA admitted that all the space programmes that they had been carrying out since the early 60s are fake. So NASA admitted that viking 1 &2 missions that landed and explored Mars, voyager 1 & 2, that has left our solar system and entered the heliosphere, and all the other numerous interplanetary missions are fake. Grand delusion.


You are big on stupendous claims but little on evidence. Where are the so called videos of the ISS showing several bubbles? Besides, liquids form round bubbles in weightless environment. So maybe that's what you are talking about.
Let's see the videos you have seen of an astronaut in space nearly drowning, or are you the only one permitted to see it.


See quixotic arrogance. They fooled 99% of the world population, from all governments of the world, to all universities and all academics. Only a few minuscule religious bigots are wise enough not to be fooled.

Horlufemi:


If you don't know you can already see them here then you have no no knowledge on this subject matter flat Earth and co.

Yes you can I've already stated there you can see them

Tomorrow morning if it's clear wake up 5 am start watching the east, you'll see Mercury, it looks like a star. I won't vex if you say it's a lie but every week keep checking it after months you won see it again.

This evening from 5 pm look the west you'll see one bright star that's Venus.

Both planets either rise before or sets after the sun.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.stardroid

Use this app for guidance. Sky map by Google. GPS and Data are the key requirements. Use better phone with good GPS o.

I used to enjoy start gazing but Lagos pollution and light pollution is killing the show to only the brightest stars. Still planets are bright enough.

I don't know if portharcourt sky isn't as polluted as Lagos but I beg you look for the Big Dipper constellation watch it all night (I honestly don't know if it's moved to day time or night time) I pray it's in night time. Or the little Dipper they don't rise and set they rotate. It's more easier to understand if you are in countries like Russia.

Look for the southern cross constellation too. I hope it's in night time. The movement action the sky is like following a curve. Make friends in South America, South Africa and Australia.

If they can see it at night at the same time South of them the Earth is not flat.

EMILO2STAY

OpenYourEyes1:


They are probably trying to breach the shield.. and will continue to do so. In their blindness they hope to conquer GOD after the breach.
I suspect that's the purpose of obelisk or phallus symbol. *obelisk could also represent the rockets use for the breach*

EMILO2STAY:


First of all what you see are known as the wandering stars. There is not a thing to suggest that they are planets. Planets should not be giving off light in different colors. Like I said before, heliocentrist claim that these planets which orbit closer to the sun are seen at night, if according to their solar system theories they should never be seen at night since they orbit closer to the sun. Why should you even see them at five when you have not seen the the suns light?.

EMILO2STAY:
to believe the flat earth cosmology, you have to disbelieve the globe earth cosmology. In the flat earth cosmology there is no space. The earth is the center of the universe.

There are so many problems with the globe earth cosmology, and that is because it is all a lie. Like I said before the problem with lying too much is the fact that you do Not know when you contradict your self.

It is often said by heliocentrist that venus and Mercury can be seen at night with a telescope. But they forget that these two so called planets orbit the inner most circle of the solar system which faces the sun so therefore they cannot be see at night because the earth will be facing the dark side of the the solar system at night. Guess they forgot about that because heliocentrism is not just a lie but it is a big lie.

FOLYKAZE:

Therefore, with limited information about the 200 deities that reign in Orun, only an initiate can affirm if Sun as an entity and deity is among them. However, Sun as a God do not have influence on the general existence of Yoruba people. And maybe they don't see value in it.

FOLYKAZE:


Can this observation be carried out in our obodo Nigeria?

I will like to see those planets.

How and when can I see venus and Mercury pls?

Horlufemi:


Do you know that Venus and Mercury can only be seen at dawn or at evenings both are the only

EMILO2STAY:
oga leave matter for Mathias. There is no difference between the stars you see at night from the one's you call planets, they are all stars. When viewed from a private telescope or a Nikon p900 with over 300x digital what you see is different from the pictures you have been presented. Why will other stars be called suns while the brightest stars are called planets.

Somtimes in new York city the so called venus will be seen up untill 9:36 pm. How is that possible if they orbit the inner circle of the solar system?
Planets should not be shining like a star, but venus is even shining brighter than some stars and they said it is not a star but a planet. These things were called wandering stars before ever they were called planets.



The picture below is from stellarium

Horlufemi:


Did you see it with your eyes? Did you buy a telescope to affirm this?

Get your telescope before you affirm this. I could be right, they could be right. The only way to be sure is to see them with your korokoro eyes. Invest money buy a proper telescope.

Don't take my word for it...get your hands dirty for once.

You've not even attempted the southern cross experiment like I asked you.


Experiments bro, experiments, it will either buttress my view or yours.

Leave what you view or read do your own experiment.

EMILO2STAY:
what are you talking about guy? I don't doubt that these cannot be seen! My arguememt is that they should not be seen in the night if they orbit the inner most circuit of the solar system.

Horlufemi:


It's possible because the Earth is round and because of the 23 degree tilt. You need a bit of spatial intelligence. I don't really have to think about it. I need no calculation.

You claim they are wandering stars. What are stars, why are these ones wandering, what is their make up. Have you taken a proper look at the wandering stars using proper telescope.

EMILO2STAY:
oga why do you keep beating about the bush. Stars are simply celestial bodies that give off light. The wandering stars are so called because they aren't fixed in their constellation like other stars. The earth isn't tilted 23.4 °, that is a lie. They said that because the north pole star "Polaris" can be seen from 23.4° latitude, knowing it is impossible to be seen on a ball from that angle they came up with the lie that the earth is tilted.

EMILO2STAY:
oga why do you keep beating about the bush. Stars are simply celestial bodies that give off light. The wandering stars are so called because they aren't fixed in their constellation like other stars. The earth isn't tilted 23.4 °, that is a lie. They said that because the north pole star "Polaris" can be seen from 23.4° latitude, knowing it is impossible to be seen on a ball from that angle they came up with the lie that the earth is tilted.

Horlufemi:


Then


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsua0oHPZw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEq17FhRNQo

Horlufemi:


You only say is a lie.

Why would they lie?

You need spatial intelligence.

EMILO2STAY:
the reason why they lie I have stated over and over.

EMILO2STAY:
very good videos. Now compare those images of mercury or venus to the one NASA shows you. You will find that NASA gave you CGI.

Horlufemi:


Even your Flat Earth Conspiracy Leaders accept the existence of planets that they are round and they don't call them wandering stars.

Horlufemi:


No tell me. Just copy and paste it here. You know like an excerpt.

EMILO2STAY:
they make up excuses to explain away irregularities with their globe earth model. First they said the earth is a ball till today it is still shown as a ball with perfect circle in circumference. But when people realized the earth is wider in circumference as you go south, they came up with the lie of the earth beeing oblate in shape and depressed around the poles. Another lie is that the earth is pear shaped. This is because it was realized that the earth is wider at the south pole than at the north pole.

Now if they make this claims why have they not shown you a picture of an oblate earth or pear shaped earth from space, Where you have hubble telescope and ISS?

EMILO2STAY:
like which one?

Horlufemi:


Science tells you what it's understands at the moment and update is there's a new discovery. The Earth is round but not perfectly round but if you still look at it with your eye. It will still look round like an ball but accurate measurements shows the ball isn't perfect and not detectable with the eye.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NblR01hHK6U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6ggShL-83E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhxL1LzKww


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lR7s1Y6Zig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OnJCqtTxsA

Horlufemi:


https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#If_the_planets_are_round.2C_why_isn.27t_the_Earth.3F

EMILO2STAY:
there is not a single true image of the earth. All are photoshopped. There is a documentary titled ""a funny thing happens on the moon"",. In that video, you could see how buzz aldrin, Michael Collins and Neil armstrong were shown to be given instructions on how to fake the picture of the earth by blocking out all the lights in the aircraft and allowing just a small rounded opening in the window of the aircraft. This was taken as the first true image of the earth from space. Every single image of the earth you see today are faked. Robert Simmons aka Mr blue marble admitted this. They have not even gone beyond low earth orbit so how do they get the enough distance from the earth to take a picture. Pls use your head. All space agencies in the world have a version of their own earth and they all look different why is so? Because it is all photoshopped. There is nothing like the earth is a ball but not a perfect ball or the earth is pear shaped but you can't see it with your eyes. Then How do they know? Their always come up with silly excuses that has nothing behind it except assumptions which they clearly made up.

Horlufemi:


Even if its faked, It was edited for contrast not changed from flat to sphere. Did you watch any of the videos? I can send you data. I think you're rather more religious with your flat earth than scientific. They cannot look the same as long as the sky isn't the same every time you look. You still havent told me why they would lie the earth is sphere-esque. You've been telling me they lied and not told me WHY

Do yourself this little favour, just trade shoes for a second. Find every proof and experiment that proves the earth is spherical BY YOURSELF. I've been to the other side when I studied Flat Earth. Ati lo ati de. I won't lie i believed it. I wanted it to be true, Then i did my own experiments. The "Southern Cross Constellation Experiment". I had to befriend people from around the world. (although we have lost contact). The southern cross constellation experiment deleted the flat earth theory. You know disabled it.

What if the videos you're watching are just controversial just for them to get views and get paid? Don't get sucked in this crazy world. YouTube's algorithm will keep suggesting flat earth to you till you believe it.

Then I see you have issues with geometry, spatial (3D) reasoning, and scale. it is impossible to see the curvature of the earth from the surface of the earth. the closer you are the less of the earth you can see, and the flatter it is. This is basic geometry maths. The farther/higher you are the more of the earth you can see and you see more of the curve.

Continue with your they are lying, they are lying and don't do your own experiments. Until you do your experiments you're just a FlatEarth Sheep bombarded with "they are lying", "does it look curved to you", "freemasons" etc.

The Shape of the earth flat or sphere-esque holds |0| value to anyone monetary or otherwise.

See satellite images taken from Himawari 8 a Japanese weather satellite, the 8th of the Himawari geostationary weather satellites operated by the Japan Meteorological Agency. The spacecraft was constructed by Mitsubishi Electric with assistance from Boeing, and is the first of two similar satellites to be based on the DS-2000 satellite bus. See images here https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/

I created a video why the earth looks flat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsqCQ9ZidXY

EMILO2STAY:
Every single image of the earth you see today are faked.

EMILO2STAY:
Johnson lost all the flat earth material in a fire which he claimed to be set up by a NASA agent whom he had seen snooping around his house. That was the end of the true flat earth society.