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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 11:34am On Feb 09, 2020
oyatz:
If the SW, SS, SE, Kwara, Kogi , Plataeu and Benue should form one Country, there will be three power bkocks- Yorubas, the minorities and the Igbos. These will ensure balance of forces and checkmate each other.



Very bad idea.

You want to form a mini Nigeria be that.

Besides, I don't see the Igbos and the Yorubas in the same country after secession.

The purpose of secession will be defeated when you bring unrelated people to form another country just because you want to eliminate the Hausa/Fulani.

The Yorubas are well over 50million worldwide.

They are enough form a country of their own without having to cope with cries of marginalisation from minority ethnic groups again.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by LevisEluwa: 12:30pm On Feb 09, 2020
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FrLukas:


Very bad idea.

You want to form a mini Nigeria be that.

Besides, I don't see the Igbos and the Yorubas in the same country after secession.

The purpose of secession will be defeated when you bring unrelated people to form another country just because you want to eliminate the Hausa/Fulani.

The Yorubas are well over 50million worldwide.

They are enough form a country of their own without having to cope with cries of marginalisation from minority ethnic groups again.
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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by DavidEsq(m): 12:45pm On Feb 09, 2020
Yukov:
It's either the Op hasn't being to Nigeria or he is just an hypocrite. Though Netherland is more civilized than Nigeria but a lot of area in Nigeria way better than the gibberish you posted there. Show us all the pics around Netherlands first before we start comparing.

What did I even smoke this afternoon cry
Thank God u realised u smoked something grin grin

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 1:33pm On Feb 09, 2020
Chris1987:
do you know it was the Dutch that colonized South Africa? And there are still white Dutch that now claim South Africans?
The Dutch that colonized South Africa were brutal and brought about apartheid. However, the ones in the Netherlands actually changed the laws to allow blacks from their carribbean colonies to migrate to Netherlands in the 1950's and the number now is about 500 thousand.

The famous Black Dutch sportstars like Edgar Davids,Clarence Seedorf,Patrick Kliuvert,Ryan Babel parents were some of the first migrants from the Dutch Caribbean Islands to migrate to Netherlands.

There is something wrong with with the African continent that makes leaders act mad.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 1:40pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


Rwanda is more or less on Nigerias level.

Botswana and Namibia have a very high abnormal amount of people living in grinding poverty.
They are not on Nigeria level. They have 24 hour electricity and progressive leadership.

Go and check how the poverty rates are dropping in those countries and how foreign investors are rushing to their countriies.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 1:45pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

They are not on Nigeria level. They have 24 hour electricity and progressive leadership.

Go and check how the poverty rates are dropping in those countries and how foreign investors are rushing to their countriies.

Brother even Ghana boasts of 24 hours light .and yes I know they have progressive leadership.

I have checked out their poverty rates and their poverty rates are really high.

55 percent of rwandans live on less than one dollar a day. Same as Nigeria.

60.4 percent of batswana and 50.1 percent of Namibians live on less than 5 dollars a day whereas even in Moldova , the shithole of europe 16.3 percent of people live on less than 5 dollars a day and Mexico that Americans look at as a shithole has 34.8 percent of people living on less than 5 dollars a day.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 1:51pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


Brother even Ghana boasts of 24 hours light .and yes I know they have progressive leadership.

I have checked out their poverty rates and their poverty rates are really high.

55 percent of rwandans live on less than one dollar a day. Same as Nigeria.

60.4 percent of batswana and 50.1 percent of Namibians live on less than 5 dollars a day whereas even in Moldova , the shithole of europe 16.3 percent of people live on less than 5 dollars a day and Mexico that Americans look at as a shithole has 34.8 percent of people living on less than 5 dollars a day.
Rwanda is recovering from one of the worst genocide in history and look how far they have come after 2 decades. They now have 24 hour electricity in most urban areas and have plans to provide every area with 24 hour electricity. Give them another 20 years under Kigame and they will the Singapore of Africa.

Botswana has visionary leadership that have brought about a drop in the poverty rate even though it is still high.

Don't ever compare Botswana,Namibia or Rwanda visionary leaders with Nigeria's present ruling bandits. It is like comparing darkness with light.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 2:01pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

Rwanda is recovering from one of the worst genocide in history and look how far they have come after 2 decades. They now have 24 hour electricity in most urban areas and have plans to provide every area with 24 hour electricity. Give them another 20 years under Kigame and they will the Singapore of Africa.

Botswana has visionary leadership that have brought about a drop in the poverty rate even though it is still high.

Don't ever compare Botswana,Namibia or Rwanda visionary leaders with Nigeria's present ruling bandits. It is like comparing darkness with light.

Paul kagame is the best African ruler.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 2:12pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

Rwanda is recovering from one of the worst genocide in history and look how far they have come after 2 decades.They now have 24 hour electricity in most urban areas and have plans to provide every area with 24 hour electricity. Give them another 20 years under Kigame and they will the Singapore of Africa.




I like Rwanda and kagame , but let's be honest , in the next twenty years , it's highly unlikely Rwanda will be Singapore of Africa.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:14pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


Paul kagame is the best African ruler.
We all had hope that Buhari was going to be like Paul Kagame with all the propoganda that was in the airwaves of how he fought corruption and the plans he had for the country. And we all got deceived by the fantastically corrupt kingpin of corruption who is even worse than Abacha.

Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 2:20pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

We all had hope that Buhari was going to be like Paul Kagame with all the propoganda that was in the airwaves of how he fought corruption and the plans he had for the country. And we deceived by the fantastically corrupt kingpin of corruption who is even worse than Abacha.


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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:21pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:



I like Rwanda and kagame , but let's be honest , in the next twenty years , it's highly unlikely Rwanda will be Singapore of Africa.
It will be an economic powerhouse. They just need to maintain the current momemtum and foreign investors will continue to flood the country.Education receives the second highest allocation in the countries budget.

They are already setting the up country for success and to become a technology hub.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by nlPoster: 2:23pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:



There is something wrong with with the African continent that makes leaders and people act mad.

How does the continent do this?
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:25pm On Feb 09, 2020
nlPoster:


How does the continent do this?
Out of 53 countries in Africa- less than 3 are working that are run by black africans, if we exclude the Northern African countries populated by Arabs.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:43pm On Feb 09, 2020
BurnStoner:
There are people who are still mad that Okada and Keke were banned some few days ago and some of you wants Naija to look like this ? How biko?
There is no social security payment made to the unemployed like in Western countries. Lagos state had good intentions, but went about it the wrong way. Crime is going to sky rocket in Lagos., you have thrown thousands of people into the streets, without a well thought out plan of what kind of employment you want them to engage in.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 2:46pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

It will be an economic powerhouse. They just need to maintain the current momemtum and foreign investors will continue to flood the country.Education receives the second highest allocation in the countries budget.



They are already setting the up country for success and to become a technology hub.

Based on current trends , in the next twenty years Rwanda gdp per capita will be merely $ 4,474. that of Singapore is 63,000 dollars.

Foreign investment that is coming into Rwanda is not the kind that pulls surplus agricultural labor into more productive work.

Most of the economic growth Rwanda is experiencing is service led mostly jobless growth.

Rwanda spends about 7 percent of their budget on education , Nigeria spends around the same too.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 2:48pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

Out of 53 countries in Africa- less than 3 are working that are run by black africans, if we exclude the Northern African countries populated by Arabs.

Even the ones run by Arabs in North Africa aren't working.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by DSoj(m): 2:49pm On Feb 09, 2020
Very true.
We chased them away too early and the country was run by dullards for over 40 yrs who knew NOTHING about governance.
Now we have major roads and national monuments named after them. Rubbish.

The reason why South Africa has a system that works is because they still have whites in control even though not directly ruling. The day whites leave SA, SA will fall just as Mugabe chased them away, today Zimbabweans are lameting

We black Africans... only God knows how he take create us.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:51pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


Even the ones run by Arabs in North Africa aren't working.
Morocco is working.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 2:52pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


Based on current trends , in the next twenty years Rwanda gdp per capita will be merely $ 4,474. that of Singapore is 63,000 dollars.

Foreign investment that is coming into Rwanda is not the kind that pulls surplus agricultural labor into more productive work.

Most of the economic growth Rwanda is experiencing is service led mostly jobless growth.

Rwanda spends about 7 percent of their budget on education , Nigeria spends around the same too.


Foreign investors have confidence in Paul Kagame that is all that matters. He will be able to attract investment in any sector.

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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 09, 2020
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Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 3:55pm On Feb 09, 2020
Beachside:
Rwanda,Singapore,and Qatar are small countries that have no reason to be underdeveloped. Rwanda is the same landmass as Cross river state . Singapore is the same size as Calabar . Botswana and Namibia are my favorite African countries . With populations of only 1 to 2 million each ,they have no reason to be underdeveloped.
Then why are all the states in Nigeria underdeveloped?That excuse is balderdash, so Nigeria is underdeveloped because of it's population?
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by urahara(m): 3:57pm On Feb 09, 2020
DSoj:
Very true.
We chased them away too early and the country was run by dullards for over 40 yrs who knew NOTHING about governance.
Now we have major roads and national monuments named after them. Rubbish.

The reason why South Africa has a system that works is because they still have whites in control even though not directly ruling. The day whites leave SA, SA will fall just as Mugabe chased them away, today Zimbabweans are lameting

We black Africans... only God knows how he take create us.

So much self hate.

Botswana and south Africa are kind of on the same level and yet Botswana has never been run by whites.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 4:00pm On Feb 09, 2020
urahara:


So much self hate.

Botswana and south Africa are kind of on the same level and yet Botswana has never been run by whites.
It all to do with leadership-Botswana,Rwanda and Namibia are the only countries that show the world blacks can run functional societies.

South Africa leaders are fantastically corrupt just like Nigerian leaders and are running the country to the ground. The truth is that it was the whites that built all the infrastructure you see in South Africa to European standards. After they were handed power after apartheid they all wanted to become overnight and now corruption is a big problem in the country.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 09, 2020
Beachside:

Nigeria is a fictitious third world shithole created by colonial powers for greedy gains . It will never develop with the current system. All ethnic nations in Nigeria should be autonomous and have control of their resources, economy and development. Singapore would probably be shithole if part of Malayasia. Rwanda would probably be shithole if part of Congo. Botswana means Tswana land . My favorite countries are Ethno states like Botswana,Japan,South Korea,Scotland,Lithuania,Chile,netherlands.
Unless we assemble our Dream Team consisting of our best,brightest and incorruptible-Nigeria will remain a fantastically corrupt shithole.
Sports Minister - Kanu Nwankwo/Jay Jay Okocha
Minister of Finance - Tony Elumelu/Jim Ovia
Minister of Petroleum - Basil Omiyi/Mitiu Sunmou (Former MD's of Shell)
Minister of Trade - Adebayo Ogunlesi (Board member in Goldman Sachs )
Attorney General - Femi Falana
Minister of Information - Maupe Ogun (Channels TV)
Minister of Technology - Jason Njoku
Minister of Culture - Genevieve Nnaji/Omotola Jakende
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by ZombieHUNT: 4:39pm On Feb 09, 2020
tartar9:
You forgot to add that we'd probably be sodomy loving and atheists by now undecided
What does it profits a man if he gains the whole world but losses his soul

This is 2020...
SMH
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by oyatz(m): 4:51pm On Feb 09, 2020
FrLukas:


Very bad idea.

You want to form a mini Nigeria be that.

Besides, I don't see the Igbos and the Yorubas in the same country after secession.

The purpose of secession will be defeated when you bring unrelated people to form another country just because you want to eliminate the Hausa/Fulani.

The Yorubas are well over 50million worldwide.

They are enough form a country of their own without having to cope with cries of marginalisation from minority ethnic groups again.

It was a hypothetical postulation.

It has nothing to do with eliminating the Hausa-Fulani.


However, it's very possible for the 17 Southern States plus Kwara, Kogi, Plateau and Benue to live peacefully in one Country because most the people in such States share many ancenstral and cultural heritage.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 5:04pm On Feb 09, 2020
oyatz:


It was a hypothetical postulation.

It has nothing to do with eliminating the Hausa-Fulani.


However, it's very possible for the 17 Southern States plus Kwara, Kogi, Plateau and Benue to live peacefully in one Country because most the people in such States share many ancenstral and cultural heritage.
When meritocracy is replaced with tribal prejudices then Nigeria will develop.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 5:07pm On Feb 09, 2020
oyatz:


It was a hypothetical postulation.

It has nothing to do with eliminating the Hausa-Fulani.


However, it's very possible for the 17 Southern States plus Kwara, Kogi, Plateau and Benue to live peacefully in one Country because most the people in such States share many ancenstral and cultural heritage.

I can assure you that all you would be doing is forming another Nigeria that won't work.

The 17 Southern states as you call them have little in common.

We can form different countries and then trade as neighboring countries of West Africa.

But to be in one country?

I am forced to ask if you are new on Nairaland.

Otherwise you'll have realised by now that there is no love lost between the various ethnicities you want to jam together in one country.

I'll just rather have all Yoruba speaking states in one country and have Yoruba and English as the Lingua Franca.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 5:16pm On Feb 09, 2020
FrLukas:


I can assure you that all you would be doing is forming another Nigeria that won't work.

The 17 Southern states as you call them have little in common.

We can form different countries and then trade as neighboring countries of West Africa.

But to be in one country?

I am forced to ask if you are new on Nairaland.

Otherwise you'll have realised by now that there is no love lost between the various ethnicities you want to jam together in one country.

I'll just rather have all Yoruba speaking states in one country and have Yoruba and English as the Lingua Franca.
That doesn't change the fact the leaders at helm with not be any different from The Nigeria that was left behind. How do we get the best,brightest and incorruptible to take over power from the ruling fantastically corrupt feudal lords.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Nobody: 6:10pm On Feb 09, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

That doesn't change the fact the leaders at helm with not be any different from The Nigeria that was left behind. How do we get the best,brightest and incorruptible to take over power from the ruling fantastically corrupt feudal lords.

Do you agree that it will be easier to rule a smaller nation than a larger one?

I am sure smaller nations states won't make the same mistake as Nigeria.

And if we do, well we can only blame ourselves this time as there won't be other tribes to blame like it currently is in Nigeria.

I'm not saying everything will be smooth, but at least we will know that there's no one else to blame but ourselves.
Re: How Nigeria Would Have Looked Like If Ruled By The Dutch by Ope122(m): 6:24pm On Feb 09, 2020
This will happen if only the youths are able to fight against this scam of a country

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