jimyjames:



If Islam was the Dan fodio's agenda of conquering the west then I will say he actually achieved that, look at the huge population of Muslims in south west

Osu , stop your Islamophobia .
Islam came to the West and even the North hundreds of years before the birth of Dan Fodio .

Traditionally , Islam was called 'Esin Imale' meaning the religion of the Malians .
Islam penetrated the West as a result of interaction between the Oyo empire and the Malian traders .

Osu, go get proper education

jimyjames:

Which part did I skip sir ?

You read you didn't understand

FFK has got idiots hanging on his every word out of ignorance, fear and inferiority. W born liar of no mean repute.

It was not Uthman Dan Fodio who brought Islam to the North and Nigeria. Islam was alive and kicking before he came.

Most Hausa kingdoms were overthrown by Hausa muslims. Please get it straight, people fight to break yokes.
It was a no-brainer. A mono theistic religion VERSUS idol worship, snake worship, juju and human sacrifices.
At the period in question, the entire west africa was undergoing great upheavals.
Slavery, empire building, idol worship and the dictatorship of pagan priests and traditionsl rulers collecting harsh tributes from weaker towns.
Christianity and Islam were seen as liberators not enslavers.

Even in Yorubaland, people were embracing christianity and islam massively before actual colonial government came OR Jihadists were invited at Ilorin to assist some Are Ona Kankanfo to defeat his Alafin.

eagleu:
If you were denied West African history by those who don't want you to know the truth, just know that the murderous Othman dan fodio came to palace of the sarkin of the area.

Mohammed was his name, and Fodio killed him on the pretext of practicing "impure" islam.
Using tricks, he endeared himself to the king, found his weakness, and then overthrew him in his own palace. When the late sarkin's people protested, he mowed them down with army of his followers from Futa Jalon.

As a reward, he sent his cousin to Kano, where they executed the same strategy. And the rest of Hausa kingdoms from Katsina to Daura was history.

Othman dan fodio was blood thirsty savage who should not be worshipped in anyway.

BTW, this is why they stopped teaching this history in Nigeria schools

It appeared that you are the one that need to read history. By the way,the name of the king was Yunfa and he was a student of Dan-fodio.And Fodio was never from Futajalo, he was born in Gobir which make him a Nigerian.

Antoeni:
I Just Checked the Cap worn By Uthman Danfodio and that of the King In Rivers Governor Wike Insulted. It’s Different

There was no photography in Africa of 1804. That wass not dan fodio.

Sammy07:


You Don shift your goal.
Anyways, it's not Fulani that introduced Islam to Yoruba land

Fulani never introduced Islam to anyone in Nigeria.The Hausa's were already Muslims 600 before Dan-fodio. As for the story of Mali introducing Islam to Yoruba,i will say it's highly unlikely,cause in Ahmed baba writing he described Yoruba as one of the slave tribes.Which i totally believed he most have hear the name from Hausa people,the only tribe that have a proving record of being a merchant tribe and have a trade route across west Africa.So any how you put it,Islam find it way to Yoruba through Northern Nigeria.

To he honest, I find that people are getting more and more ignorant.
It is sad.

How can FFK be lying and controlling people's mind in cruel ways like this.

How can an intelligent, grown up man actually believe that Islam can be imposed on someone by force .

Please if you actually truly believe this, you need to visit a psychiatrist OR maybe go for an IQ test because you may be mentally challenged.

All religions are HIGH MENTAL activities. How do you force it on people? .
I am a christian and preaching and getting people to accept CHRIST is hard enough because it means giving up a lot..how much more ISLAM with five times a day prayer, fasting, reading Korean intensely etc. Please tell me how you can FORCE this on people and how can you believe it as possible except you are a drug addict with extended mid-life crisis like FFK.

Danfodio is a terrorist, pure and simple!

MetaPhysical:

There was no photography in Africa of 1804. That wass not dan fodio.

There was no camera any were in 1804,it was invented in 1816 by French man.

Sammy07:
FFK is actually correct..

Only the Yorubas have faced the Fulani one on one and defeated them

Cc: jimyjames

The Tivs too.

Ibrahimmrfish:

Fulani never introduced Islam to anyone in Nigeria.The Hausa's were already Muslims 600 before Dan-fodio. As for the story of Mali introducing Islam to Yoruba,i will say it's highly unlikely,cause in Ahmed baba writing he described Yoruba as one of the slave tribes.Which i totally believed he most have hear the name from Hausa people,the only tribe that have a proving record of being a merchant tribe and have a trade route across west Africa.

Thank you for this. Centuries before Uthmann Dan Fodio came, the richest man in the world then was a king/emperor living in North East Nigeria. He ess a muslim and once went on pilgrimage to Mecca and caused the most unseen economic transformation along the way across the desert all the way to Mecca with tonnes of Gold.
Very devout muslim.

It is historical fact that Kanuris of North East Nigeria resisted Uthmamn Dan Fodio and it was along the lines of "we are better muslims than you" .

I actually suspect that this Boko Haram thing has spiritual roots in that attitude to Islam.

This is why I find it annoying when SE or SS youths start discussing Islam in Nigeria. There are very few muslims in SS and SE. In Yorubaland we have muslims as brothers, sisters, uncles and aunties.
I have friends who became muslims just because they knew they wanted more than one wife. No muslim I know was conquered into Islam. You can take your own fears and let it kill you on your bed.

So we know about the religion of Islam. I dont accept it but I know it
You dont know it. You cant know it..so shut up.

You again displayed your ignorance about the Yorubas on a public forum.


Islam has been in the Yorubaland since around the 15th century and about 300 years before the birth of Uthman Dan Fodio

jimyjames:

Actually they did dipped the Koran in south west and made Yoruba's majority Muslims

It is important to close this thread and stop.discussing history with children of spare parts sales apprentices.

Their minds are closed and a previous generation has altered their destinies negatively with lies.

Let them continue to worship FFK, the acclaimed intimate friend of Bianca

ogbuefi677:
The Tivs too.

Igala,Bareba,Kanuri,Hausa of Damagaram and Abuja(Name change to Suleja).

If Nigerians know their history well,they will do well to keep an eye on the Fulani's,those group are a dangerous group,as for the sokoto sultan,that guy has been shit and piss right from day one,the most useless first class king in Nigeria,he is scared shit of boko haram and never ever speaks for his people. Uthman dan fodio was a butcher and a scholar and yes he was defeated by the yorubas in his surge into western Nigeria,he was a mad man that wanted to spread his mad ideology all over west Africa.

Simplyleo:
Whenever this cocaine addict talks about war, I will just be imagining if he is actually ready for any war. Now, he is seriously trying to ignite war, if it starts, will he even be able to throw stones? As in, who are the "we" he always refer to?

Well, for now, I will assume he always refer to his subjects sucking his balls whenever he talks. And if that is the case, is it not appropriate he always define the "we" so he wouldn't be mistaken as referring to the South west? Because, the last time I checked, the South west was not at war with anyone or group and wasn't agitating for any.

I don't think you worth living?

firo08:

I don't think you worth living?

Really?

Is this how you were brought up?

eagleu:
If you were denied West African history by those who don't want you to know the truth, just know that the murderous Othman dan fodio came to palace of the sarkin of the area.

Mohammed was his name, and Fodio killed him on the pretext of practicing "impure" islam.
Using tricks, he endeared himself to the king, found his weakness, and then overthrew him in his own palace. When the late sarkin's people protested, he mowed them down with army of his followers from Futa Jalon.

As a reward, he sent his cousin to Kano, where they executed the same strategy. And the rest of Hausa kingdoms from Katsina to Daura was history.

Othman dan fodio was blood thirsty savage who should not be worshipped in anyway.

BTW, this is why they stopped teaching this history in Nigeria schools

I wonder why those Hausa kings and their people didn't fight back...or were their men all dressed in skirts?

Simplyleo:

Really?

Is this how you were brought up?

Because your assertion was based on hatred not on the interests of one Nigeria.
It's high time we starts telling ourselves the awesome truth. Those speaking up are not enemy of the government or the nation but they want a peaceful co-existence.

XANDERBOY85:


I wonder why those Hausa kings and their people didn't fight back...or were their men all dressed in skirts?

I wander why you deliberately choose to be ignorant.Try using your phone positively,there is something call Google it.It can reduce the level of ignorance you find yourself it.

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firo08:

Because your assertion was based on hatred not on the interests of one Nigeria.
It's high time we starts telling ourselves the awesome truth. Those speaking up are not enemy of the government or the nation but they want a peaceful co-existence.

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Tales for Nnamdi Kanu.

XANDERBOY85:


I wonder why those Hausa kings and their people didn't fight back...or were their men all dressed in skirts?

Good question at first, but when you think about it--why don't they fight back today?

Why don't we all fight back when peaceful farmers are murdered and plundered in cold blood by people proclaiming to replicate dan fodio's exploits?
Why don't we fight back when small 11 year old girls are stolen by 89 year old Fulani emirs as wives?
Why don't we fight back when Christians are murdered in church, and their killers released after a few months in custody, because they have "repented"
The whys continue almost indefinitely.

slivertongue:
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.its the business of the north to fight their battles

North battle gini? the north is not fighting any battle my guy, southerners in the north are been tactically eliminated and the hordes are moving southwards.

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Simplyleo:

Really?

Is this how you were brought up?

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Sammy07:

You Don shift your goal. Anyways, it's not Fulani that introduced Islam to Yoruba land

The thing taya me o, people will just come online to disgrace themselves.

jimyjames:



If Islam was the Dan fodio's agenda of conquering the west then I will say he actually achieved that, look at the huge population of Muslims in south west

Any where the Fulani capture, they install an emir, how many emir do we have in Yoruba land except Ilorin?.
Even Ilorin was stolen from Afonja children, Fulani never fought a war with the Yorubas to get Ilorin.
For further clarifications, read about the Alafin Aole and Are onakakanfo Afonja debacle, and the Yoruba Fulani war at Oshogbo.
All the Fulani armies that came to fight that war were killed, Solagberu a Yoruba convert, who came to fight against the Yoruba army, was captured alive along side the Fulani war Lord.
Solagberu was beheaded, but the Fulani war Lord was spared, he was asked to take the head of Solagberu to Ilorin, this should serve as a warning to any Yoruba who wants to join Fulani to fight against Yorubas.
They told the war Lord, that the decision to have Fulani in Ilorin is Afonja's, not Yoruba problem.
They warned the Fulanis to stay put in Ilorin and NEVER enter any other Yoruba land.
This is why, when you leave Oshogbo, you will get to Ikirun, Offa and many more towns, before you get to Ilorin, all these areas, their obas wear BEADED CROWNS and not some turbans.

The important thing to re-state is that Yoruba muslims converted to Islam willingly and without external compulsion.
It was the light they saw as opposed to idolatry and the dictatorship of priests and babalawos in native religion.
A Yoruba Are Ona Kankanfo, Are Latoosa was muslim. That did not stop him from resisting Fulani incursions into Yoruba internal wars when it was necessary.

Hausa people too came to Islam before the Fulanis came into Nigeria.

If Fulanis always had the political savvy to offer a better political system to people and liberate them from oppressive situations by which they later expand their caliphate then it is something to be careful about.
Being careful means having good governance, eschewing corruption and guaranteeing individual freedoms