poiZon:

Bro once u tender a B.sc, u must tender d lower degree that gave u the higher degree.
Dont mislead this forum

No you dont! In fact you can obtain a degree without a school certificate!!! many universities abroad will enroll you as a mature student without any formal education as you can see here:

https://www.studential.com/university/applying/UCAS-application-guide/UCAS-for-mature-students/should-I-apply

"Although some mature students take A levels, AS levels, BTEC Nationals and Scottish Highers, most universities will not ask you to have formal qualifications. You can search for the entry requirements for any undergraduate courses you are interested in here: http://www.ucas.com/students/coursesearch/."

secondly,

To be elected as Governor of a State in Nigeria, one must fulfill the following requirements:

He must be a citizen of Nigeria by birth;
He must have attained the age of thirty-five years;
He must be a member of a political party and that political party must have sponsored him; and
He must also be educated to at least the School certificate level or its equivalent.

Let your education be not just on paper like Degi. the problem with many Nigerians is that we are not as educated as we think we are.

vicdom:
I hope and wish all these APC apologists (AKA zombies) would sit down and read a sound and aptly delivered judgement of the learned judges of the SC. But they won't simply because they are zombies, dimwitted, illiterates, simpletons, riffraffs and ultimately nitwits to discern a well structured and delivered judgement of the Apex court. Useless mofos. Spits###

i hv read tru but u and i know that had this case being that concerning the presidential election,this same supreme court would have done all in its ambits to sustain it citing relevant sections of the law particularly as the court knows that its consequence outweighs its merit. that should have also come to play here.

There is no hope for Nigeria.

The youths are the leaders of tomorrow, No the youths are worse than the leaders of today.


Just see the comments;

*The Supreme Court judges are intelligent.
*Sound judement from the Supreme Court.
*Mary Odilli was just one person, other judges also have their judgements.
*Sound Judgement from the learned justices.


But 2 weeks ago after Imo judgement it was;

*The Supreme Court has been compromised by Buhari.
*Tanko was the one who gave Imo judgement.(despite a unanimous judgement from all the judges)
*See what APC has turned Supreme Court into.
*Tanko has destroyed the Supreme Court.




The politicians will continue to see the youths as clowns.
Americans and Europeans worry about a good economy versus a bad economy.

We worry about APC versus PDP.

Caseless:
wow! You did well. People say it's a sound judgement, but I wan to know the ground upon which a review is sought.

The ground they are seeking review bothers on using Kogi case study.

They are two separate events that never agree to each other.

In kogi case
1. Result had not been announced
2. Fake does not contest in APC governorship primary (a ground PDP could have used at the tribunal)
3. APC is at the Mercy of using their discretion to give another replacement.

In bayelsa case it was a pre-election matter.
1. Their undoing was going ahead to still present the man after the high court judgement. They were using strong head, they were advised to replaced the man. But no they went ahead


Well let's see how it plays out at the review next week

isthatso:
The problem we have in this country is that we have people in positions of power who are not intelligent. The requirement for office is a minimum school leaving certificate. He didnt have to tender all these certificates, all he had to do was tender one that complied with the minimum requirement and beared his proper name...end of story.

This is what Ogun state governor did, he knew he didnt have NYSC so he didnt tender his degree and just tendered his WASC. In this case all Degi had to do was tender his degree which bears the name he wants to use and forget the WASC. WASC is not required if you have a higher qualification.

There is nothing in the constitution that says you have to tender all your certificates. You have the choice of which certificate to tender as your qualification to contest, so long as what you tender meets the requirement.

You can only be judged on what you tender!!! Note the judgement did not say he did not meet the requirement to contest, it said he presented forged documents.

Stupidity of the highest order and IMHO shows the calibre of leadership he would have brought to Bayelsa state!!!

Long and short......He will go down in history as a man who forged/presented a document that was never required and thereby disqualified himself.

.. You ve said it all.

cckalima:
i hv read tru but u and i know that had this case being that concerning the presidential election,this same supreme court would have done all in its ambits to sustain it citing relevant sections of the law particularly as the court knows that its consequence outweighs its merit. that should have also come to play here.

What help the judgement was that They have not been sworn in.

Buhari had already been sworn in and we all know what plays out then.

fergie001:

The Degi is a mad man.

I only posted this for those hurling insults on Odili.

She was not even the one that read the lead judgement.

She only chaired the panel.

I'm supprised at how they began to trace her to Mbaise

isthatso:
The problem we have in this country is that we have people in positions of power who are not intelligent. The requirement for office is a minimum school leaving certificate. He didnt have to tender all these certificates, all he had to do was tender one that complied with the minimum requirement and beared his proper name...end of story.

This is what Ogun state governor did, he knew he didnt have NYSC so he didnt tender his degree and just tendered his WASC. In this case all Degi had to do was tender his degree which bears the name he wants to use and forget the WASC. WASC is not required if you have a higher qualification.

There is nothing in the constitution that says you have to tender all your certificates. You have the choice of which certificate to tender as your qualification to contest, so long as what you tender meets the requirement.

You can only be judged on what you tender!!! Note the judgement did not say he did not meet the requirement to contest, it said he presented forged documents.

Stupidity of the highest order and IMHO shows the calibre of leadership he would have brought to Bayelsa state!!!

Long and short......He will go down in history as a man who forged/presented a document that was never required and thereby disqualified himself.

Thank you

[/b]Do you think David Lyon will ever forgive his supposed deputy for such a very expensive negligence?[b]

My question is :[/b] why didn't the court simply punish his deputy for giving INEC false information rather than involving David Lyon who is innocent?[b]

Lawyers in the house, please I need clarification

greggng:



The are not naive...if same judgement went the other way round u and ur gullible pdp will insult the judiciary ....there is no morality in politics ....that's why people support their parties irrespective of whether they are wrong or right . Pdp has visited several embassy with protest about imo election ....it was same supreme court that delivered that judgement

You are being sentimental with the truth even while staring you in the face.

The truth is whether we like it or not the SC court erred in the IMO judgement. I hope they review and correct it. It would send a bad precedence but would be better than allowing that judgement stand just because SC has the final say.

That the SC gave an erroneous judgement does not mean every judgement is or will be erroneous, so saying that because the same SC delivered 2 judgements it must be agreed with even when we all know that one of the judgement was in error is rather sentimental.

If you don't understand. The Bayelsa judgement was right the IMO judgement was wrong and it was the same SC that delivered both judgement.

Iamgrey5:
I understand your point, but a judge could have easily given another verdict tbh

It's not like the case is extremely solid.

The judgment is based on the discretion of the judge but she chose to resolve the case again the defendant.

First, the Justice Ejembi Eko who delivered the lead judgement is Male and not female. Perhaps you are under the impression as some others, that because the panel was led by Justice Mary Odili, she also authored the judgment. Panels are always led by the most senior in hierarchy who may not necessarily author the lead judgement; for this panel Justice Mary is the most senior.

Secondly, forgery does not necessarily mean that there must be someone else that bears the names other than the one claiming them. The issue arose from having dissimilar names on multiple documents, claiming ownership of all and yet not using the proper legal means of correcting names if you claim they are wrong. It is on these basis that the Supreme court arrived at its decision and properly chastised the Court of Appeal for agreeing with some preposterous positions canvassed by the respondent.

Bbbwings:

I just tire o
How can someone be so stupid

Many Nigerians are so focused on the "school certificate" they miss the bolded parts in the requirement: ...................at least school leaving certificate or it's equivalent

fergie001:
dansuqi garfield1 blindersoff ybalogs Caseless

Kai

Iamgrey5:
Actually this further proves the judgment was very political


There's no evidence the certificates were
forged


No one came forward that the other names belonged to them


Forgery is a serious criminal case that needs to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

. wowww You have good points kindly forward these point to Lyon before the Tuesday Supreme court Hearing ....Funny funny talk every where

Iamgrey5:
I understand your point, but a judge could have easily given another verdict tbh

It's not like the case is extremely solid.

The judgment is based on the discretion of the judge but she chose to resolve the case again the defendant.

I agree.its what i have been saying.its just like the tribunal judgment in osun state

codedguy1:


You are being sentimental with the truth even while staring you in the face.

The truth is whether we like it or not the SC court erred in the IMO judgement. I hope they review and correct it. It would send a bad precedence but would be better than allowing that judgement stand just because SC has the final say.

That the SC gave an erroneous judgement does not mean every judgement is or will be erroneous, so saying that because the same SC delivered 2 judgements it must be agreed with even when we all know that one of the judgement was in error is rather sentimental.

If you don't understand. The Bayelsa judgement was right the IMO judgement was wrong and it was the same SC that delivered both judgement.

Can you even take a look at what you wrote ..no point made....how did they erred according to you? Analyse it and link it to the point of law.....I wanna hear statement that could proffer the alternative to supreme court judgement with facts. What you expect the sc to do is not what they law want them to do. You are a bad teacher without any verifiable means of arriving at your point ....cos you only spoke gramma nothing was buttressed

engineerboat:


She was not even the one that read the lead judgement.

She only chaired the panel.

I'm supprised at how they began to trace her to Mbaise

Don't mind dem.....looking for anything to hold...

Dansuqi:

Kai

What happened?

You are ashamed on behalf of the guy abi?

Don't lie.....

TheFearless:
[/b]Do you think David Lyon will ever forgive his supposed deputy for such a very expensive negligence?[b]

My question is :[/b] why didn't the court simply punish his deputy for giving INEC false information rather than involving David Lyon who is innocent?[b]

Lawyers in the house, please I need clarification

The law states that it is a joint ticket.

Hence, whatever affects A affects B....same as President-Elect/VP-Elect.

Iamgrey5:
I understand your point, but a judge could have easily given another verdict tbh

It's not like the case is extremely solid.

The judgment is based on the discretion of the judge but she chose to resolve the case again the defendant.

It is not based on discretion... several law where cited to show that he forged his certificate, the manner, timing and inconsistence in the change shows alot of incoherence. The other party was able to convinced the learned judged that he forged his certicate. Case close.

ChristianNorth:
Wole (father of technicalities) and Ikpeazu would have won this case against Ustadz Usman or at least get something better than this, though they are likely to lose at the trial and lower courts because of our electoral act.

In SC everything is possible because they have the power to set and set aside precedents. All you have to do argue intelligently and use technicalities. While Onnoghen Supreme Court relies mostly on the merit of the matter and natural justice to arrive at their judgement, Tanko's Supreme court is just unpredictable.

They don't know when to use technicalities, precedents and equity.

I have never seen a court so useless.

Anyway, Bayelsa judgement is apt and their finest in recent times.

Kai,for the third time i agree with you though its an afterthought.one of the mistakes apc made was to use rookie and inexperienced lawyers to handle such a sensitive and delicate case compared to the veteran ustaz who destroyed atiku at the pept.i wont be surprised if those lawyers are related to degi and lyon.too many mistakes.this was a fifty fifty case,an open one that could go or swing either way.a brilliant and adept lawyer like ikpeazu good at marshalling arguments viva voce would have gained the upper hand

isthatso:


No you dont! In fact you can obtain a degree without a school certificate!!! many universities abroad will enroll you as a mature student without any formal education as you can see here:

https://www.studential.com/university/applying/UCAS-application-guide/UCAS-for-mature-students/should-I-apply

"Although some mature students take A levels, AS levels, BTEC Nationals and Scottish Highers, most universities will not ask you to have formal qualifications. You can search for the entry requirements for any undergraduate courses you are interested in here: http://www.ucas.com/students/coursesearch/."

secondly,

To be elected as Governor of a State in Nigeria, one must fulfill the following requirements:

He must be a citizen of Nigeria by birth;
He must have attained the age of thirty-five years;
He must be a member of a political party and that political party must have sponsored him; and
He must also be educated to at least the School certificate level or its equivalent.

Let your education be not just on paper like Degi. the problem with many Nigerians is that we are not as educated as we think we are.

You're giving schools abroad as examples of those that would admit you for degree programs without formal education but which Nigerian University does that? If you're presenting a degree certificate of a conventional Nigerian University like UI for instance, then you should be ready to present your WASSCE or OND or A'Level etc that would have made it possible to be admitted to such programme.. Dont try to be smart by half.

fergie001:

What happened?

You are ashamed on behalf of the guy abi?

Don't lie.....

Christiannorth summarized everything

SpecialAgent:


Bros, you really don't even need a lawyer to see the forgery here. Too many inconsistencies & the affidavit are all dated 2018!! This man was too careless

Buhari had similar issues but wole found a way

Ilekokonit:
If you look at the judgement, it states that the election was held on November 16 2020. Does this mean that they don't have proof readers in the Supreme Court ? And does this amateurish error mean APC have grounds to challenge the judgement ?

Lawyers in the house, what sayeth thee ?

Lawyers in the house,christiannorth,duwdu,ejimatic,zoedew

Dansuqi:

Christiannorth summarized everything

Great....I gave him the first LIKE

Alanpoza007:

You're giving schools abroad as examples of those that would admit you for degree programs without formal education but which Nigerian University does that? If you're presenting a degree certificate of a conventional Nigerian University like UI for instance, then you should be ready to present your WASSCE or OND or A'Level etc that would have made it possible to be admitted to such programme.. Dont try to be smart by half.

My friend please talk like an educated person and stop showing that you are just another Degi.

The requirement in the constitution is a "minimum". Tender you degree without WASC and see if anybody will disqualify you. No court in the land will demand your WASC because thankfully our courts are filled with people who actually understand English.

I suggest you go for remedial classes in English!!!

If the requirement was "wasc" irrespective of any degree you have and they must see the WASC certificate the constitution will say " a candidate must have wasc certificate" by saying "a minimum of" it means thats the lowest certificate you must have, WASc becomes optional.

Your problem and that of Degi is English....see where it got him!!!

The law says minimum, is degree not above the minimum? where does it say in the constitution or electoral law you must submit all your academic qualifications? You submit that which is needed to satisfy the requirement...thats all and if a degree satifies the condition, then thats all you are required to submitl!!!

No doubt you will argue, like I said your problem like our brother Degi is english...dont expect a response from me except you can show me in the constitution or electoral law where a candidate is expected to present WASC when he his presenting a qualification that is above the minimum requirement odf WASC, otherwise I suggest you enroll in an english course.

The problem with many people today is they speak English, they read and write but they truly do not understand or comprehend the true meaning of what they read. i really wonder sometimnes if it is a problem with English or an IQ problem.

Dansuqi:

Lawyers in the house,christiannorth,duwdu,ejimatic,zoedew

Na typo nah.....abi u wan go court for that one again?

Iamgrey5:
Actually this further proves the judgment was very political


There's no evidence the certificates were
forged


No one came forward that the other names belonged to them


Forgery is a serious criminal case that needs to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

my brother even the institution that issued the certificates where not invited to make inputs as to the originality of the certificate. again before you enrole for any program or exams forms are filled, why didnt the defense team reach for those forms to see if the names on the form submited and receipts issued at point of purchase abinitio were the same. that would have largely proved in each instances that its the same person and that he was just a victim of his recklessness and ignorance

fergie001:

No grounds.....
I think they are using this case to kill Imo.

Because the pdp is doing same, they want to.
They are also citing the case of Adamu Mu'azu in 1999...holds no waters.

I will try to get more facts yet protect the individual. If you what I mean.

You cannot compare imo to bayelsa.it see you don't know how bayelsa is even in terms of votes.apc will rather lose the entire nc than lose bayelsa

vicdom:
I hope and wish all these APC apologists (AKA zombies) would sit down and read a sound and aptly delivered judgement of the learned judges of the SC. But they won't simply because they are zombies, dimwitted, illiterates, simpletons, riffraffs and ultimately nitwits to discern a well structured and delivered judgement of the Apex court. Useless mofos. Spits###

Lol. I wish you said the same thing after the Imo judgement. Las, las, we are all hypocrites.

Dansuqi:

Buhari had similar issues but wole found a way

Stop overhyping Uncle Wole....

Will the CJN disqualify PMB?
Even if you lead that case, you will still win it.

Did Wole not represent Faleke...abegi