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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 8:30am On Feb 26, 2020
Who's this fellow?

So if I decided to have my whole roof covered with solar panels is it anyone's business but mine?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by unicmarket: 9:15am On Feb 26, 2020
Dam5reey:


You were meant to make inquiry and understand the Load involved !!!

I put this to you, What is the Ideal set up for some who uses 2000Watts 24/7, you think he only need 3KW panels

You need comfortably
4-5 thousand watt solar panel array
16 nos of 200ah batteries

To secure 14hrs backup without sunlight

And the day hrs are covered

So 24/7 over covered

Dm me at my signature whatsapp no for the break down.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by remizvxcq(m): 10:42am On Feb 26, 2020
emyfine08:
Please house I have 5kva inverter 24v not yet set it up
My load Watts is about 3000w
I need set it up for 24hr uninterrupted power supply come rain come shines.
What du I need for the set up?.Thanks in advance

You start with Analysis & Design.
Analyse the loads, existing electrical infrastructure, potential sites of installation, power demand patterns, energy time of use.
Design from the batteries, to solar production, to the power control & conversion hardware, and the monitoring software..

You want 3000W for 24 hours, whatever it costs?!
With respect to truthbetold2, we will accept that you have prior needful for energy efficiency measures.

On to the mathematics!
3000W x 24hours = 72000Wh/day or 72kWh that must come from energy storage and or solar power, via the inverters. "Come rain or shine (kongo?)" means prepare for 2-3 days autonomy, so minimum of 2x72kWh = 144kWh of storage batteries.

To save space, money and complexity, you will likely want lithium-based storage, rather than lead-acid storage. Assuming 5kWh-usable LiFePO4 ESS packs that you can pre-order from RITILITY, 144/5 = 28-30 units. If you go with Pylontech 2.4kWh ESS, you will need 60. If BYD 13.8kWh, you will need 10-12. You will probably prefer high-voltage (HV) DC storage and inverters rather than 48v (51.2v/56v) which is low voltage (LV) DC. A single RITILITY 60kW/180kWh ESS would be sufficient. But HV inverter systems prefer to be not on Nigeria’s bad-grid. So its back to three-phase 48VDC and you are effectively paying for a micro-grid solution.

You then need enough solar PV panels and charge converters to BOTH carry your daytime loads during average 5 sunlight hours per day. For your size, a combination of DC-coupling AND AC-coupling should be in the design. Your solar needs to produce 77kwh / 5 PSH/day, or about 15-16kW per day. Allow for clouds and birds, You are now in NiyiOmolyunade’s territory.

Solar components vary greatly in the quality of build and efficiency. Assuming a solid, conservative brand such as JASolar or TrinaSolar, and using the 330W panel as example. Do you have enough space on your roof, or in your compound to fit the panels?!

Next, you pick your inverters: LV, HV, All-in-one, off-grid, on-grid, hybrid?
Control and monitoring software? Battery Cell-level? Remote monitoring? Remote support?
Mounting and cable routing?
Back-up gensets, with automatic start-stop?
AC electrical distribution?
Maintenance and repair care plan? Strongly recommended!

Contact me for an Audit and Design, and Quotation for your project. The cost is fully deductible if you retain us to do your EPC.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 11:51am On Feb 26, 2020
remizvxcq this one na transmission center and sub station for Nepa.

With this type of level na to get full time maintenance staff for ground 24 hours shift.

Well done sir i salute you nice quote

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dkev: 2:33pm On Feb 26, 2020
dear solasola and truthbetold, what the both of you said is unfair. never has anyone on this forum with a large array questioned or insulted anyone's small array/system. these older guys are usually very willing to help others. if you haven't seen houses that need such systems, I have, but still, that is not sufficient reason to basically insult their choice of an electricity system. please do not drive these men away from this thread with your bad attitude. they try out new innovation with their system which gives us the courage to try it out on our smaller systems. And please, truthbetold, stop with the foul language, it makes you look bad

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:07pm On Feb 26, 2020
solasola:

I am ordering one via aliexpress soon. Thanks

That AE thingy is somehow. An order that I've placed for over 3 weeks has remained unshipped till now.

I've had to open trade dispute for some other items that have not arrived and the purchase protection had ran out.

I understand their constraint, really and even I myself will wanna be careful about getting stuffs from there after I experienced some episode of flu around early January when I took delivery of some (like 12 large parcels) items. I didn't have a face mask on or used gloves. The only conscious IPC protocol I observed was to avoid touching my face with my hands thru and also made sure to wash my hands when I was thru with opening the parcels. But a week later, I experienced the type of sore throat and catarrh that I haven't had in a long time, even with serious headaches. I was scared and literarily avoided families and friends for the 10 days that I had that flu.

It may just be the ordinary flu that comes with the hash harmattan but hey, I had reasons to link the parcels to the flu one week after, in my own mind o.

I read that parcels from China being a vehicle for the transmision of the Covid-19 is very remote, but I won't take chances either.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:11pm On Feb 26, 2020
truthbetold22:


In all sincerity, you have the most inefficient system on this Forum. I am not sure why the other enthusiast choose to ignore but renewable energy is not a race or a competition of the largest solar array and largest battery bank. It is more a function of getting steady power at a reasonable and comparative price as opposed to relying on the national grid.

Even at 3X solar capacity production, you would be generating 60,000 watts daily. I struggle to understand why anyone would go through that much energy in a day for a regular house and claim to be a renewable energy enthusiast. It isn't a function of deep pockets, it is more a stupid approach.

Simply swapping out a few energy guzzling appliances and using timers and energy saving lighting will reduce your consumption by half. I struggle to understand how spending 10 million on Solar which needs to be swapped out in 10 years makes sense. At that price point, you are paying 80-100K per month effectively. What then would it cost to simply be on generators.

Again, if you have as much wisdom as you display on this forum, you do not need 19,000 watts of installed panels. Not sure what point you are trying to prove but need I remind you that you are not a factory and do not live in a palace.

Good luck with your endeavors, I mean no harm.

Sho! Na fight?
What did we carry, what did you throw?!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Topmost11(m): 4:18pm On Feb 26, 2020
Anyone having this, and price?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by netotse(m): 4:23pm On Feb 26, 2020
Topmost11:
Anyone having this, and price?
Is that modified or true since wave?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:27pm On Feb 26, 2020
truthbetold22:


Do I need to have 50,000 Watts of Panels when 3000 watts can do the job? You must be very dense.

Next time, try to sound intelligent.
Eskiss sah, can you outline your daily energy requirements that subsist on your 3000 watts and peeps will help you to analyse if your 3kw is good enough.

You shouldn't really talk that way about someone who decides to power air conditioners, deep freezers, pumping machine, heaters and much more on solar.

Abi is it possible for someone to power all that on 3kw array? Please sah, tell me if it's possible o and how I can go about it because me too want to learn so that you won't call me "dense and proud" with big solar installation.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:46pm On Feb 26, 2020
Dkev:
dear solasola and truthbetold, what the both of you said is unfair. never has anyone on this forum with a large array questioned or insulted anyone's small array/system. these older guys are usually very willing to help others. if you haven't seen houses that need such systems, I have, but still, that is not sufficient reason to basically insult their choice of an electricity system. please do not drive these men away from this thread with your bad attitude. they try out new innovation with their system which gives us the courage to try it out on our smaller systems. And please, truthbetold, stop with the foul language, it makes you look bad

Why d'you think they'd be driven away by that comment? They are part of veterans that have manned and kept this thread alive for hundreds of pages and you think they'd be rattled by a newcomer? Haba. Dem Niyi and co are comrades on this forum and I am sure they'll see things as the Yorubas will put it - Ìtì ògèdè ni, kò tó ohun à ñ yo àdá sí

Translated - It's an incosequential matter that does not require losing sleep over.

And honestly, I'm just catching my fun reading truthbetold's diatribes.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 6:37pm On Feb 26, 2020
ceaser:

Eskiss sah, can you outline your daily energy requirements that subsist on your 3000 watts and peeps will help you to analyse if your 3kw is good enough.

You shouldn't really talk that way about someone who decides to power air conditioners, deep freezers, pumping machine, heaters and much more on solar.

Abi is it possible for someone to power all that on 3kw array? Please sah, tell me if it's possible o and how I can go about it because me too want to learn so that you won't call me "dense and proud" with big solar installation.

Most y'all are simply getting Truthbetold wrong. The 3000w thing is just an example he gave. Just like someone said up there... "about the mansion and room self contained thing"

In Truthbetold's argument, why should you build a mansion with several furnished/equipped rooms when you can only be in one room at a time and enjoy whatever you need. The other rooms remain locked and starts gathering dust.

It's always good to do more to leave room for eases but he thinks its overdone. grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 6:46pm On Feb 26, 2020
ceaser:


That AE thingy is somehow. An order that I've placed for over 3 weeks has remained unshipped till now.

I've had to open trade dispute for some other items that have not arrived and the purchase protection had ran out.

I understand their constraint, really and even I myself will wanna be careful about getting stuffs from there after I experienced some episode of flu around early January when I took delivery of some (like 12 large parcels) items. I didn't have a face mask on or used gloves. The only conscious IPC protocol I observed was to avoid touching my face with my hands thru and also made sure to wash my hands when I was thru with opening the parcels. But a week later, I experienced the type of sore throat and catarrh that I haven't had in a long time, even with serious headaches. I was scared and literarily avoided families and friends for the 10 days that I had that flu.

It may just be the ordinary flu that comes with the hash harmattan but hey, I had reasons to link the parcels to the flu one week after, in my own mind o.

I read that parcels from China being a vehicle for the transmision of the Covid-19 is very remote, but I won't take chances either.


Even sellers are super slow to respond to questions asked. The COVID-19 has really dealt a heavy blow to China's commerce and industry. You'll be lucky to have goods bought shipped under a week. I have one pending for the last 15 days, I can't cancel as there is no other store selling it. Shopping now is now for the extreme patient people. Things now move at a snail's pace. But if your country is under quarantine, that is to be expected cry
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by truthbetold22: 7:48pm On Feb 26, 2020
ewizard1:


Most y'all are simply getting Truthbetold wrong. The 3000w thing is just an example he gave. Just like someone said up there... "about the mansion and room self contained thing"

In Truthbetold's argument, why should you build a mansion with several furnished/equipped rooms when you can only be in one room at a time and enjoy whatever you need. The other rooms remain locked and starts gathering dust.

It's always good to do more to leave room for eases but he thinks its overdone. grin

Thank you sir.. you are truly intelligent.. most of the others are just ranting and doing follow follow Membership..

In simple terms, 19k is an overkill for a house anyhow u see it.. Again, Niyi can simply prove me wrong by providing a list of all his appliances.

I ll happily do an energy audit.. As is normal with the black man, waste is a way of life..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:19pm On Feb 26, 2020
mctfopt:



Even sellers are super slow to respond to questions asked. The COVID-19 has really dealt a heavy blow to China's commerce and industry. You'll be lucky to have goods bought shipped under a week. I have one pending for the last 15 days, I can't cancel as there is no other store selling it. Shopping now is now for the extreme patient people. Things now move at a snail's pace. But if your country is under quarantine, that is to be expected cry

yeah, delivery by aliexpress shipping used to be 20 to 35days, now its 45 to 58days. i dey fear to even place order. what i do is to write the seller, and see what he says. 2 i contacted said they are on holidays from jan 17th to march 12th, that i should wait till then b4 placing order
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 9:29pm On Feb 26, 2020
Dkev:
dear solasola and truthbetold, what the both of you said is unfair. never has anyone on this forum with a large array questioned or insulted anyone's small array/system. these older guys are usually very willing to help others. if you haven't seen houses that need such systems, I have, but still, that is not sufficient reason to basically insult their choice of an electricity system. please do not drive these men away from this thread with your bad attitude. they try out new innovation with their system which gives us the courage to try it out on our smaller systems. And please, truthbetold, stop with the foul language, it makes you look bad
haba, am I being quoted out context? You thoroughly got my point wrong. That I don't have the funds to achieve 25kw or go lithium, I would never scorn or beef someone who can. We are learning from their experiences. And if I made a reference to it, its because I am wowed by it.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 9:51pm On Feb 26, 2020
ceaser:


That AE thingy is somehow. An order that I've placed for over 3 weeks has remained unshipped till now.

I've had to open trade dispute for some other items that have not arrived and the purchase protection had ran out.

I understand their constraint, really and even I myself will wanna be careful about getting stuffs from there after I experienced some episode of flu around early January when I took delivery of some (like 12 large parcels) items. I didn't have a face mask on or used gloves. The only conscious IPC protocol I observed was to avoid touching my face with my hands thru and also made sure to wash my hands when I was thru with opening the parcels. But a week later, I experienced the type of sore throat and catarrh that I haven't had in a long time, even with serious headaches. I was scared and literarily avoided families and friends for the 10 days that I had that flu.

It may just be the ordinary flu that comes with the hash harmattan but hey, I had reasons to link the parcels to the flu one week after, in my own mind o.

I read that parcels from China being a vehicle for the transmision of the Covid-19 is very remote, but I won't take chances either.
this viruses are spreading massively o. I am halting any orders for now. Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 10:22pm On Feb 26, 2020
I had quite some catching up to do. Lets put all the rant of this fellow to rest. This poverty mentality is mind boggling . How does it affect anyone what others spend their money on? An empty drum they say.....
This guy is searching for cheap popularity. We all have history on nairaland, when you check some peeps own. Then you understand where they are coming from. Am off to sleep with my lovely family in my 12 hectares mansion. lol. Ehnn
Some will be sad that i live in a mansion like that o.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Topmost11(m): 5:31am On Feb 27, 2020
netotse:

Is that modified or true since wave?

Modified
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 7:16am On Feb 27, 2020
truthbetold22:


Oga shut up, stop sounding ignorant.. if you cannot offer opposing views, u are just a follower.. stop trying to sound like u know what u are saying. Simply dissect the message and not the messenger.

Poverty mentality ke u dere.. u think say na to post fantasies on Nairaland?

Oga that is looking for 20k businesses to start.

Complete slowpoke
O fe gbo bebe Oro abi? silence they say is golden, do not reply a fool, but you might need to reply to show him his foolishness.
Our histories in nairaland and other forums says it all. I do not have to brag here with a faceless moniker but atimes it is good to set matters straight. If i look for a 5k or 20k business to start means nothing at all and does not affect anyone.You should ask when was that and what i have made of it. That you went to med school in germany does not mean you should have no iota of common sense. Spilling trash all over nairaland and causing commotion up and down in various sections. Or is that what they thought you in med school? Referring to another as making stupid purchases? You obviously have low self esteem and have terrible language manners.
If i have a 20k business and it helped my get married with wonderful kids, have a house and other investments, and can also make 1/2 a million purchase in renewable energy, while my bsc degree from oba awon university rots in a file there. Its been a wonderful 20k business then.
Grow up boy.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 7:33am On Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by netotse(m): 8:31am On Feb 27, 2020
Topmost11:


Modified

I have a 500W MSW inverter in can sell to you for cheap if you're interested?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by EnergyMotive: 8:53am On Feb 27, 2020
We are looking for a Solar Technician that can test and advice on an existing solar system installation in Ibadan.This needs to happen fairly quickly. Please send interest with qualifications via WhatsApp to 0808 214 6659. Thank you.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 9:06am On Feb 27, 2020
Classsss! Pls let us not digress. We are still in d class, let us learn.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 9:12am On Feb 27, 2020
EnergyMotive:
We are looking for a Solar Technician that can test and advice on an existing solar system installation in Ibadan. This needs to happen fairly quickly. Please send interest with qualifications via WhatsApp to 0808 214 6659. Thank you.

Just get 2 batteries and 3000w panels according to our resident "expat".

truthbetold22:

Why should I be bitter or jealous over a solar installation? If I had just 2 batteries and had constant electricity, have I not fulfilled the same need as Niyi? Do I need to have 50,000 Watts of Panels when 3000 watts can do the job? I must be very dense

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 9:25am On Feb 27, 2020
idsolar:
Classsss! Pls let us not digress. We are still in d class, let us learn.
On point my brother! There are some discordant flash in the pan, sitting room critics that derive peculiar pleasure by being nasty. There is no iota of sense in you yabbing anybody in your bid to instruct them. Moreover, you are not anybody 's father and also, the money no be your own;
so why the incessant vitriolic diatribes?
Nairaland no do well at all. There should have been civil sense age limits for some threads, walahi!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 9:45am On Feb 27, 2020
Topmost11:
Anyone having this, and price?
That cost less than 6k for new in ALABA. I advice you should just go for the 1000w with charger. Cost 15-20 in alaba . the choice is yours.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by truthbetold22: 10:49am On Feb 27, 2020
solasola:
O fe gbo bebe Oro abi? silence they say is golden, do not reply a fool, but you might need to reply to show him his foolishness.
Our histories in nairaland and other forums says it all. I do not have to brag here with a faceless moniker but atimes it is good to set matters straight. If i look for a 5k or 20k business to start means nothing at all and does not affect anyone.You should ask when was that and what i have made of it. That you went to med school in germany does not mean you should have no iota of common sense. Spilling trash all over nairaland and causing commotion up and down in various sections. Or is that what they thought you in med school? Referring to another as making stupid purchases? You obviously have low self esteem and have terrible language manners.
If i have a 20k business and it helped my get married with wonderful kids, have a house and other investments, and can also make 1/2 a million purchase in renewable energy, while my bsc degree from oba awon university rots in a file there. Its been a wonderful 20k business then.
Grow up boy.

Imagine ur list of accomplishments... very funny. We know u not.. we don’t even know if you have a wonderful wife or wonderful kids.. 500k in renewable energy wink wink.

The joke is on you boy.. You need to grow into a man and achieve proper things. Imagine calling getting married an achievement..

You must be really poor
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by truthbetold22: 10:51am On Feb 27, 2020
Barezzi:


Just get 2 batteries and 3000w panels according to our resident "expat".


Energy audit sense is far from you.. mr wise ass.. Niyi can list his appliances and energy needs..

You don’t even know what an example is.. Hold on to 3000 watts like ur life depends on it smiley

We are still waiting.. till then, u remain a slowpoke who lacks comprehension.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 11:12am On Feb 27, 2020
hmmm. hmmm hmmmm how many time I talk am? make una answer me o. aswear I will kidnap @Niyi and my ransome is just 5kw from his 19kw. abi anotry? see power. enjoy yaself my brother.

I beg make we leave mata for matayas o

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