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| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 1:57pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:You just ignorantly blabbing my friend, there is no single data to support your postulation. All studies shows that Swahili is the most widely spoken language in Sub-Saharan Africa. Hausa is not spoken by 50% of Nigerians, there are northern minorities that don't speak Hausa as either first, second or third language. Hausa is only widely spoken in Niger republic out of the other sahelian country in West Africa. Here is the list of languages spoken by Nigeria neighbors in the north Chad: Chadian arabic is the lingual franca Cameroon: Fufulde is only spoken by minorities in the north of the country (they account for less than 20%of the country population) Benin: Fon and Yoruba are the most widely spoken Niger: Hausa is only spoken by 54% of the population (about 14m people) other non bordering Sahellian nation like Mali, Burkina Faso, Central Africa republic etc hardly understand or speak any Hausa language. So, how would Hausa speaker exceed that of Swahili? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 2:15pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 2:40pm On Mar 16, 2020 |
Usman Dan Fodio was an Arabian Fundamentalist warmonger. And the only reason we know who he was is purely due to the horific atrrocities that he led into the region. Usman Dan Fodio and his cronies were invaders, crusaders, jihadist that brought with them poverty, misery and pain, and thats just focusing on Islam and all the attrocities that Islam has partaken on the continent. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 2:23pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Social engineering is what is happening to our Hausa brothers and sisters. Due to the close similarities with some of our languages with Arabic, people are being force fed a bunch of lies. For instance, what language was spoken first, Hausa or Arabic? Obviously, Hausa predates Arabic. Arabic is a borrowedsic of an African script written by olden days Nubians. i.e The Nubian known as Ali Baba e.t.c |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 2:26pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:How deluded can you be. To begin with, the Hausa are not even the most prominent civilization to come out of what is now called Nigeria. There are better civilization from the south, such as the Oyo empire and the Benin empire, empires renowned for craft and civilization. Secondly, the Hausa or Sokoto caliphate is not even the most renowned civilization in sahellian, where Songhai empire of Mali dominated for years. The Sokoto caliphate was the youngest empire in Nigeria and it only lasted for 99 years. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 2:39pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
According to genuine history, the Hausa language predates Arabic in as much as the 'Great Sphinx' at Giza predates the 'Statue of Liberty'. Arabic is a relatively new language, in every possible form. The Arabic language was adopted from written accounts of earlier African academics. The Arabs came to African before and after their encounter with Abu Bakre, Abu Ubadiah e.t.c Keep hold onto your virtuousness, get rid of all the traces of the Abrahamic religions. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 2:43pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:Teach! |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 2:46pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
This man brought this rubbish Fulani people that are killing and maiming into Nigeria. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 2:48pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 6:21am On Feb 29, 2020 |
myobjective:Not actually brother. They had the best architectural style then and I also read about their system of government in a book which had the same Oyo and Benin system. Theirs was well structured and arranged, system of taxing, education and the rest. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 2:58pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 3:12pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
myobjective:Furthermore, the Sokoto Caliphate in itself was problematic due to the fact that it represented a warrped and flawed ideology that was never intended to be advantageous to the general public. For the mere fact that it represented an evil and foreign ideology known as Islam. Both Christianity and Islam are evil, spiteful and malicious ideologies that need to be far away from our continent. The Hausa people are wonderful and their language is equally gorgeous. The next time one of them phony historians come up to preaching about Muhammad and Islam, ask that person what is the meaning of Islam. What is the importance or meaning of Christianity? What is the importance or meaning of Islam? What is the meaning of history? Did either Christianity or Islam participate in both the Arabian and Transatlantic slavetrade, yes or no? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 3:11pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 4:03pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:LMAO Slave centers can never be more renowned than civilizations that governed trade and culture in the sahel. Nobody is talking about the caliphate, each northern sultanate on its own is greater than any southern civilization let alone if you consider the works of the hausa states together. When kano was incorporated into the songhai empire and auwa daughter of askiya the great was married to rumfa, it was another hausa king (kotal kanta) who defeated the songhai and liberated them. This allowed kano to venture into and conquer some songhai regions. This is just kano and kebbi let alone the other hausa states. The southern empires you mentioned are known for nothing other than being doll makers and slave markets. And by the 19th century when the caliphate came into existence there was no doubt who the powerhouse in this region was. I blame the europeans, by God if not for their intervention we'd have laid your cities to waste and reduced you to humble submission. No biggie, we still have you right where we want you. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 3:13pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 11:26am On Mar 03, 2020 |
Ausrichie:Call a spade, a spade. Call an ace, an ace. Feudalism is a historical fact, that happened to the Chinese and they came out the other side smelling of roses. I get the point your making, however, dont let your initial point confuse you from the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that not all Fulani are in power or are influential or have any kind of bearing on the politiking of today. Stop demonising a people for the sake of petty laughs, please let's become smarter still. Lets understand that its part of a ploy, in order to divide people from their brothers and sisters. When its all said and done, all Nigerians are fighting for the same thing bud, fighting to keep afloat. Be who yousic, from where ever in our world, everyone has the same complaints about the current politics. Nigerians are a union inside of a union, these are the facts. And these are the facts that arent available to us due to the misinformation and false assertions peddled by Christianity and Islam. Christianity and Islam are mere distractions to the real work that ought to already have begun. Concentrate our focus on reality, real history. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 3:19pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:Which studies? show me the latest studies that support your numbers and i will show you mine. I was being modest when i said 50% of nigerians speak hausa, some would argue 60. Hausas and fulanis alone make up 35-40 percent of the countrys population, then add in other ethnic groups like kanuri, nupe, and the middle beltan ethnicities, both muslim and christian that use hausa as their lingua franca. Benue is the only northern state where hausa isnt widely spoken. Thats 50% modestly, then niger where hausa is spoken by 90% of the population. What a clown, You ignorantly searched nigers demographic and while ethnic hausas make up 54% of the population other ethnicities use it as a lingua franca from the fula to the berbers. Sudan has a hausa community in the millions, ghana, chad guinea etc all countries with sizeable hausa speakers. Swahili comes close, but they dont have our numbers but other than them any other language you compare with hausa is a bad joke. Yoruba and hausa as far as reach and influence are not even in the same league. Stop fooling yourself. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 3:22pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 1:22pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Those Caliphates are null and void due to the toxicity of their existence. These are the reasons that one ought to study real history. The people of Sokoto predate Islam in years that would amount in their hundreds and thousands. Historians have proven beyond reasonable doubt that there were countless civilisations in those regions that predate both Christianity and Islam. The Sokoto Caliphate isnt the important aspect of that Empire, but the fact that a foreign power had a puppet kingdom in those historical regions of the world. As in the history here is that, Arab fundamentalist warmongers had infiltrated our sacred great continent to the extent that some faker and traitor could open thoughts to such possibility of ruling as a subordinate to a foreign ideology and a foreign power. Thats the real important take here. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 3:26pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Amujale:This literally doesnt make any sense whatsoever. What do you mean infiltrated? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 3:29pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Amujale:Hausa arabic oromo amharic hebrew etc all have the same roots. All afro asiatic speakers are products of the afro asiatic urheimat, their original civilization before they dispersed and gradually mixed and evolved into who they are today. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 3:34pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Nigerian languages are the most commonly spoken ones throughout the world. i.e Hausa, Edo, Fulani, Ibo, Yoruba e.t.c Hausa and Yoruba language have huge backing on the continent and all Nigerian languages are spoken at a healthy rate worldwide. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 3:47pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 4:09pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Precisely, Hausa is Arabics main roots. Arabic is a derivative of the Hausa language, yet, you have fake historians teaching counterintuitive falsehood i.e Hausa came from Arabic. Hausa did not come from Arabic. The Arabic language is a derivative of the Hausa language. We know for a fact that the Fula and Hausa languages predate Arabic in thousands upon thousands of years. And we also know that the first Arabian fundamentalist to run an aggressive campaign in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Morrocco came before their fundamentalist manufactured Islam. They got stuck, as they couldnt get past the gates of Sudan and heres where people similar to Usman Dan Fodio comes into the picture. Therefore, even without adding the evidence from Ali Baba's note pad, Hausa has the ability to influence the invention of Arabic due to the fact that its there the longer. Arabic couldnt have influenced Hausa language due to the fact that the Arabic language hadnt even existed at the time Hausa language is being spoken by Nubians. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Ibrahimmrfish(m): 3:47pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:You forgot to add,Sudan,Ghana,Chad all have Hausa speaking population. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Amujale(m): 4:00pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nigerians played major roles in creating the Nile civilisation. As a matter of fact, all the major Nigerian and other West African civilisations have a huge impact on the Nile Valley Civilisation. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 4:15pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Amujale:Well, you spoke wisely can't say anything but this is really the truth. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 4:18pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:Keep quiet. Swahili is the most spoken language in Africa followed by Arabic. Go and search it and see. Even great learned men have suggested that it should become Africa's lingua francs. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by eagleu: 4:18pm On Feb 28, 2020*. Modified: 6:09pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Our corruption, decadency failure to thrive all started in sokoto, so a revolution starting from sokoto is our only solution!!! |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 4:24pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Ausrichie:First of all, Arabic is not considered an indigenous african language dummy. Secondly swahili having more speakers than hausa is a common misconception promoted by swahilis popularity outside the continent and the fact that that its spoken in multiple east african countries. The numbers dont support that and most recent research prove that hausa has more speakers. Subsequently, anyone who proposes a lingua franca for africa is a bigger dummy than you. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 4:31pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:I said search online before disgracing yourself. Great men like Ngugi wa Thiongo is who you are calling dummy foolish boy. Just checked Hausa and it said 63million while Swahili 100million - 150million keep on getting values from nowhere little boy. Calling a great writer foolish chai it is now you that is smart. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 5:02pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Ausrichie:Lol You're the one disgracing yourself with your outdated figures. There are over 63 million ethnic hausas let alone hausa speakers. Hausa is not only the most spoken indigenous african language but the 11th most spoken language in the world according to the spectator index. Like i said, there are over a 100 million hausa speakers in Nigeria alone. Mandarin: 1090 English: 983 Hindustani: 544 Spanish: 527 Arabic: 422 Malay: 281 Russia: 267 Bengali: 261 Portuguese: 229 French: 229 Hausa: 150 Punjabi: 148 German: 129 Japanese: 129 Persian: 121 Swahili: 107 Telugu: 92 |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 5:08pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Their end is coming very fast. �� 2023, Nigeria would go to war. Let each region get ready. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by MetaPhysical: 5:56pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
MODS, DAN FODIO HAS TAKEN ENOUGH PUNCH ON THIS THREAD. ABEG SHUT THIS THREAD DOWN! ![]() |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 6:06pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:So u are from Southern Borno? You should most likely be Bura or Gwoza right? Cos you definitely cannot be Marghi or Kibaku. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 6:13pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
fk002:You are just spewing thrash to myobjective. Who did you show love to? You showed love to middlebelt people with Boko Haram, Bandits, Fulani herdsmen and the ethno-religious clashes that have been happening since decades? You must be very deluded. You a just a confused Tubeben musulmi (Muslim convert) as your Hausa fulani masters call you. ... A typical Hausa fulani muslim is even better than you because we know where they stand. You indigenous Muslims who we call our brothers are worse than snakes. |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 6:27pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:It is very obvious that you are an ignoramus and I can't waste my time on you anymore. Even the KSA are now worried about the failure of their economic reforms and you are here talking rubbish? The public trading of Saudi Aramco was a massive failure! https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-11-18/aramco-failure-to-win-foreign-investors-makes-ipo-a-local-event Read you dummy, read! Abuja belongs to us, you can cry a river for that . Where were you when Hausas were dealt with in Bwari town (north of Abuja)?Do you want to jump over Southern Kaduna to claim Abuja and merge it to Kano? Abuja is surrounded by Christian Gbagyis on all corners. Jaji which is in the north of Kaduna city is a Gbagyi Christian dominated town and u want to claim Kaduna? Is your brain working? You are a cockroach and you cannot do anything other than running to hide after attacking small interior farm villages with old women and children. Anytime our people and yours have had a face to face combat, we have always dealt with you people... Go and reclaim Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi if you have so much power as you claim. Go and hit your head in shame, there are more Christians in the north of Kaduna river than Muslims in the south of the river. So who exactly have you crushed before? |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 6:53pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
Dupamecano:You must be high on "codeine" Hausa is the Chadic language with the largest number of speakers, spoken as a first language by some 44 million people, and as a second language by another 20 million. The total number of Hausa speakers is estimated at 63 million, according to Ethnologue. Wikipedia |
| Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 6:59pm On Feb 28, 2020 |
myobjective:c LOL Ethnologue is using outdated cia factbook figures and admitted to that in their website. Again, there are more than 60 million ethnic hausas (first language speakers). This is a bare fact. I dont know why you are hell bent on arguing against this. Then you add in the second language speakers and a modest estimate will show that 50 percent of nigerians speak hausa. Thats 100 million in Nigeria alone. |
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