gidgiddy:


A coup does not succeed unless the administration surrenders.

Dimka conducted a coup and killed the head of state, Murtala Mohammed. Others like Danjuma and Babangida rallied and fouled the coup

Orkah conducted a coup against Babangida, his deputy Abacha fought back and the coup did not succeed

Gowon and his fellow Northerners conducted a coup, even though Ogundipe was receiving support from people like Ojukwu, he could not rise up and do anything

The point of this thread is that when a Yoruba man was to be president, it was an Igbo man who came to his support rather than the Yoruba nation who were comfortable to have their Regional Governor slaughtered and their most senior officer chased away, just because it was Northerners

Leemao...
Receiving support from Ojukwu that was hiding in a police station himself
Get real bro !!!

Get a proper book and stop regurgitating propaganda from radio Biafravd .

The coups of the 1960s were purely tribal . Igbos in January 1966 and a return fixture by the Abokis in July 1966. So , don't compare with Dimka and Orkar . By the way, Dimka and Orkar didn't succeed because they didn't have the numbers and were from the minority tribes . Use your tongue to count your teeth !

Your ignorant rant changes nothing actually .
Going by your pseudo- logic , are Yorubas weak for not killing and maiming yeebos for killing Akintola, Ademulegun and his pregnant wife and Ralph Sodeinde too

itsme01:


he is doing a fastastic job, because that is how Ipobian piglet reason

Lol..
Only few people know his modus operandi here .
He's an agent of division and destabilization whose sole aim is to further the agenda of the caliphate .

Ikinternational:


I noticed you did not say anything about your pocket
Just more empty drivel
I don't do stupid tribal. I do personal achievements. Furthermore,
I highly doubt your father can afford Aba land prices.

Btw is Abia not in Nigeria? Your state is California in comparison abi. Electricity all day, good police, no SARS, no unemployed youths wandering the streets. Little to no government corruption n things function as they should.

So which state is this you're from? I already have a passport I'd love to visit to see this marvel

Why would any sane human want to go live in that pigsty called Abia to start with

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itsme01:


a child who lacks history of his ancestors must learn it on the street one way or the other, so enjoy it

hope you don't end up like you lord Ojukwu

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itsme01:


quote your source and stop spreading lies, when the coup was staged Col Katsina had already instructed his friend Col Adebayo who had relayed the message to Ogundipe and Ogundipe had tried warning foolish Agiuyi Ironsi but he wouldn't listen as he insisted on going on his scheduled tour.. Aguiyi Ironsi's chief transport officer was President Buhari and his ADC was Theophilus Danjuma and Ogundipe had warned Aguiyi Ironsi of the grave danger but the stuborn dude still never listened,.. when Aguiyi was murdered his death wasn't announced but was only declare missing, and during coups until it was ascertained that the number one was dead or captured with proof of his body nobody dare announce himself the head of state... Ogundipe's attempt to mobilise troops from ikoyi close to the state house marina met stiff resistance as nobody listened to his orders.. since he had no troops to command he left Nigerian shores on a naval ship heading to UK, where he later settled and subsequently became an ambarsabor

Doesnt it look strange to you that a Yoruba man who was the most senior officer in Nigeria at the time, and should have been president, only got support from an Igbo in the East?

gidgiddy:


A coup does not succeed unless the administration surrenders.

Dimka conducted a coup and killed the head of state, Murtala Mohammed. Others like Danjuma and Babangida rallied and fouled the coup

Orkah conducted a coup against Babangida, his deputy Abacha fought back and the coup did not succeed

Gowon and his fellow Northerners conducted a coup, even though Ogundipe was receiving support from people like Ojukwu, he could not rise up and do anything

The point of this thread is that when a Yoruba man was to be president, it was an Igbo man who came to his support rather than the Yoruba nation who were comfortable to have their Regional Governor slaughtered and their most senior officer chased away, just because it was Northerners

Dimka’s coup was made up of officers from the middle belt, there was no way such a coup carried out by a minority region would succeed. So, it was very easy for Danjuma to mobilize officers from the core north who were angry over the murder of Muritala and others from the south to counter the plot.

Orkah’s coup also suffered the same fate as Dimka’s coup. In addition, the plotters wanted to arrest IBB instead of killing him when they had the opportunity at Dodan attacks. Even if they had killed IBB, the coup would still have failed because of what I earlier pointed out.

In the case of Ogundipe, he was never part of the coup. That notwithstanding, he attempted to foil the coup by convening a meeting of the military ruling council immediately news broke out that a coup was ongoing. The council met and it was agreed that negotiations should be opened with Murtala and his boys at Ikeja cantonment. Gowon was the most senior northern member of the council and it was agreed that he should be the one to go to Ikeja and negotiate with the plotters while Ogundipe stays back at the state house. What the plotters wanted as at that time was secession (Araba) and not power.

On getting to Ikeja, Gowon jettisoned his mission and started making moves on how to take over as the head of state. Fortunately for him, he got the backing of Murtala, the entire northern military officers and rank and file, political and traditional rulers from the north and the American and UK governments. UK and US supported him because they were against secession of the northern region.

When Ogundipe realized that Gowon was a turncoat, he tried to mobilize troops to storm Ikeja but he was surrounded by northern soldiers and nobody obeyed his orders. Ojukwu who was making mouth on phone ran away from Enugu to hide in a police station in Onitsha. So, in the absence of any troop to call upon, he had no choice than to quickly leave the country. If not, Gowon and his northern boys would storm the state house and kill him because he was already a hindrance to him taking over.

I took my time to lecture you on what really happened so that uninformed Igbo folks like you can stop the misinformation.

YeeboMuslim:

Why would any sane human want to go live in that pigsty called Abia to start with

Oga don't dodge now. I said I want to visit.
You know travelers tend to have discretionary income.
So which state are you from again? Don't disappoint me

gidgiddy:


Doesnt it look strange to you that a Yoruba man who was the most senior officer in Nigeria at the time, and should have been president, only got support from an Igbo in the East?

Ojukwu never offered any real support other than making mouth on the phone. Did he send any troop to Lagos?

Ojukwu’s support was not out of love for Ogundipe or the Yorubas. It was just one of political expediency. Ogundipe was a very senior officer and Ojukwu was willing to take orders from a senior instead of Gowon who he saw as his junior.

gidgiddy:


Doesnt it look strange to you that a Yoruba man who was the most senior officer in Nigeria at the time, and should have been president, only got support from an Igbo in the East?

first its not called President as it is not democracy, secondly he got support from his friends and not from the East, because even Soldiers in Lagos from Eastern Origin refused to follow him when he wanted them to trace Aguiyi to Ibadan, all of them shrugged and never wanted to fight even for Aguiyi.. If Ojukwu was serious he would had lead atleast several battalion straight through Ore to Lagos and then Ibadan to fight Northerners but instead he barely picked up the phone to call Ogundipe for Ogundipe to single handedly match to Radio Nigeria which was the most secured part of Lagos with soldiers crawling every inch and to just walk up and announce himself to Nigerians that he is the new head of state after he must have used his bare hands to fight all the soldiers stationed at radio Nigeria as chuck noris that he is


Abeg this issue is about common sense, a bank is being robbed and you want the most senior DPO to walk alone when his boys aint following him straight to the bank and kick the robbers out, because his friend Ojukwu from Enugu phoned him to do so? does it sound reasonable

Ikinternational:


Oga don't dodge now. I said I want to visit.
You know travelers tend to have discretionary income.
So which state are you from again? Don't disappoint me

I'm from the pace setter state ; the state of firsts and cradle of civilization in Nigeria.

Omo Ibadan tokan tokan !!!!

gidgiddy:


Doesnt it look strange to you that a Yoruba man who was the most senior officer in Nigeria at the time, and should have been president, only got support from an Igbo in the East?

A president in a millitary government after a successful ethnic coup he was never a party to.
You are way dumber than I initially gave you credit for

alfasexy:
Afonja and cowardice are 5&6

But Ojukwu that has gut, led over 2million of his people to death !

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itsme01:


first its not called President as it is not democracy, secondly he got support from his friends and not from the East, because even Soldiers in Lagos from Eastern Origin refused to follow him when he wanted them to trace Aguiyi to Ibadan, all of them shrugged and never wanted to fight even for Aguiyi.. If Ojukwu was serious he would had lead atleast several battalion straight through Ore to Lagos and then Ibadan to fight Northerners but instead he barely picked up the phone to call Ogundipe for Ogundipe to single handedly match to Radio Nigeria which was the most secured part of Lagos with soldiers crawling every inch and to just walk up and announce himself to Nigerians that he is the new head of state after he must have used his bare hands to fight all the soldiers stationed at radio Nigeria as chuck noris that he is


Abeg this issue is about common sense, a bank is being robbed and you want the most senior DPO to walk alone when his boys aint following him straight to the bank and kick the robbers out, because his friend Ojukwu from Enugu phoned him to do so? does it sound reasonable

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itsme01:


first its not called President as it is not democracy, secondly he got support from his friends and not from the East, because even Soldiers in Lagos from Eastern Origin refused to follow him when he wanted them to trace Aguiyi to Ibadan, all of them shrugged and never wanted to fight even for Aguiyi.. If Ojukwu was serious he would had lead atleast several battalion straight through Ore to Lagos and then Ibadan to fight Northerners but instead he barely picked up the phone to call Ogundipe for Ogundipe to single handedly match to Radio Nigeria which was the most secured part of Lagos with soldiers crawling every inch and to just walk up and announce himself to Nigerians that he is the new head of state after he must have used his bare hands to fight all the soldiers stationed at radio Nigeria as chuck noris that he is


Abeg this issue is about common sense, a bank is being robbed and you want the most senior DPO to walk alone when his boys aint following him straight to the bank and kick the robbers out, because his friend Ojukwu from Enugu phoned him to do so? does it sound reasonable

Ojukwu was in an obscure police station in Onitsha not Enugu actually ...The coward was hiding there .
See goodygoody abi wetin be the op name dey make mouth over 50 years after ..Typical Ibo coward

gidgiddy:


Doesnt it look strange to you that a Yoruba man who was the most senior officer in Nigeria at the time, and should have been president, only got support from an Igbo in the East?

Lol...
Audio support from an obscure police station in the remotest part of Onitsha .
Ojukwu was aptly described by his father in- law. Go figure !

seunmsg:


Dimka’s coup was made up of officers from the middle belt, there was no way such a coup carried out by a minority region would succeed. So, it was very easy for Danjuma to mobilize officers from the core north who were angry over the murder of Muritala and others from the south to counter the plot.

Orkah’s coup also suffered the same fate as Dimka’s coup. In addition, the plotters wanted to arrest IBB instead of killing him when they had the opportunity at Dodan attacks. Even if they had killed IBB, the coup would still have failed because of what I earlier pointed out.

In the case of Ogundipe, he was never part of the coup. That notwithstanding, he attempted to foil the coup by convening a meeting of the military ruling council immediately news broke out that a coup was ongoing. The council met and it was agreed that negotiations should be opened with Murtala and his boys at Ikeja cantonment. Gowon was the most senior northern member of the council and it was agreed that he should be the one to go to Ikeja and negotiate with the plotters while Ogundipe stays back at the state house. What the plotters wanted as at that time was secession (Araba) and not power.

On getting to Ikeja, Gowon jettisoned his mission and started making moves on how to take over as the head of state. Fortunately for him, he got the backing of Murtala, the entire northern military officers and rank and file, political and traditional rulers from the north and the American and UK governments. UK and US supported him because they were against secession of the northern region.

When Ogundipe realized that Gowon was a turncoat, he tried to mobilize troops to storm Ikeja but he was surrounded by northern soldiers and nobody obeyed his orders. Ojukwu who was making mouth on phone ran away from Enugu to hide in a police station in Onitsha. So, in the absence of any troop to call upon, he had no choice than to quickly leave the country. If not, Gowon and his northern boys would storm the state house and kill him because he was already a hindrance to him taking over.

I took my time to lecture you on what really happened so that uninformed Igbo folks like you can stop the misinformation.

If you can take your time to post these nonsense and posit it as historical facts, the least you could do is to provide some sort of verifiable source...right? I also like how you conveniently "forgot" the part where Brigadier Ogundipe was openly disrespected by a Northern soldier of a far more junior rank, who bluntly refused to carry our orders from Ogundipe and made that clear enough... say what you want, but the truth remains that no officer or leader from the Western region supported Ogundipe taking over from Ironsi in the aftermath of the counter coup... Not a SINGLE Yoruba leader resisted the arbitrary takeover of power by the North... at least Ojukwu was bold enough to refuse to recognize Gowons office, and stuck to that principle to the end.

YeeboMuslim:

I'm from the pace setter state ; the state of firsts and cradle of civilization in Nigeria.

Omo Ibadan tokan tokan !!!!

So Oyo State my kids can get job after university. Police don't harass. No potholes to kill my tire. No Gen noise, you don't have to bribe government officials to do their job, Nepa will not send bill if they didn't supply light? I don't ever have to fetch water? Good Hospitals/clinics/pharmacies with original drugs?
Even though I don't believe you(sounds too good to be true) I will still make plans to visit just in case there's a state in Nigeria that got it right

YeeboMuslim:

Ojukwu was in an obscure police station in Onitsha not Enugu actually ...The coward was hiding there .
See goodygoody abi wetin be the op name dey make mouth over 50 years after ..Typical Ibo coward

What nonsense lol, some of you unintelligent mo.rons just relish regurgitating the same old crap tales you probably read from the internet, that's why Nairaland is a citadel of ignorance, poor cognitive reasoning and sheer stupidity... why would Ojukwu be hiding in the East when he had already repatriated all officers and men of Northern origin back to their regions? Every account I've read about the events of the coup and counter coup NEVER mentioned Ojukwu "hiding" anywhere in the East. As a matter of fact, the East remained at the time the only region that had no Northern soldier occupying its region or military installation... why Ojukwu SUCCESSFULLY sent all the Northern soldiers packing from the East, the Western region under Colonel Adeyinka recoursed to shamelessly hiding and kissing Aboki ass in the name of "playing it safe and savvy"... while the Yoruba population were groaning under Northern occupation all over Western region!

Tobrasky:

If you can take your time to post these nonsense and posit it as historical facts, the least you could do is to provide some sort of verifiable source...right? I also like how you conveniently "forgot" the part where Brigadier Ogundipe was openly disrespected by a Northern soldier of a far more junior rank, who bluntly refused to carry our orders from Ogundipe and made that clear enough... say what you want, but the truth remains that no officer or leader from the Western region supported Ogundipe taking over from Ironsi in the aftermath of the counter coup... Not a SINGLE Yoruba leader resisted the arbitrary takeover of power by the North... at least Ojukwu was bold enough to refuse to recognize Gowons office, and stuck to that principle to the end.

I made it very clear in my post that northers soldiers refused to take orders from Ogundipe so what are you talking about?

If you need source, you can pick up Ma Siollun’s book pictured below.

Lifestone:

But Ojukwu that has gut, led over 2million of his people to death !

Death is better than a life of cowardice.

YeeboMuslim:

Leemao...
Receiving support from Ojukwu that was hiding in a police station himself
Get real bro !!!

Get a proper book and stop regurgitating propaganda from radio Biafravd .

The coups of the 1960s were purely tribal . Igbos in January 1966 and a return fixture by the Abokis in July 1966. So , don't compare with Dimka and Orkar . By the way, Dimka and Orkar didn't succeed because they didn't have the numbers and were from the minority tribes . Use your tongue to count your teeth !

Your ignorant rant changes nothing actually .
Going by your pseudo- logic , are Yorubas weak for not killing and maiming yeebos for killing Akintola, Ademulegun and his pregnant wife and Ralph Sodeinde too

It is true that Ojukwu was at the Central Police Station in Enugu but he was hardly in hiding, everyone knew where he was and he was still the substansive Governor of the Eastern Region.

Do you know why the Northern Soldiers in Enugu could not do anything? They knew that if they carried out any coup in the East, surrounded by millions of Igbos, none of them would leave the East alive. They were less than a thousand of them.

But in the West, they knew Yorubas would be a walkover. So they just walked in, slaughtered the Military Governor of the Western Region, Lt Col Fajuyi, the marched down to Lagos chased away the highest ranking officer of the Nigerian Army, a Yoruba man who should have been the next head of state, Brigadier Ogundipe.

Can you imagine if Enugu had been capital of Nigeria and Northerners went and killed Ironsi and Ojukwu then brought Gowon to come and rule Nigeria from Enugu, surrounded by millions of Igbos? Do you think this would have been possible? Igbos would have burnt them and Enugu down.

Of the 3 main tribes, the only ones they could do this to are Yorubas

But the fact remains that when the Yoruba nation could not stand up for their most senior officer, Ojukwu stood by him

YeeboMuslim:

Lol...
Audio support from an obscure police station in the remotest part of Onitsha .
Ojukwu was aptly described by his father in- law. Go figure !

That audio support was far more than Ogundipe got from his fellow Yorubas right there in Lagos

na all of us dy suffer am nw

alfasexy:


Death is better than a life of cowardice.

That is folly ! Simple

itsme01:


I really don't argue with dunce on Saturdays... enjoy your ignorance

It takes one silly dunce to recognize another. What the ignorant dingbats called free education in the defunct western region was sustained by heavy taxation on the people of defunct western region of Nigeria. Most of the parents could not save to send their wards to secondary schools. Despite the so-called free education, defunct western region lagged behind the defunct eastern region in any phase of formal education.

unbitchable:
foolish people... First, there's nothing like "President" in the military era. Ogundipe never participated in the coup, Ojukwu never participated in the coup. How dare Ojukwu, a non coup player ask another non coup player to assume the seat of power without the permission of the coupists? . Both Ojukwu and Ogundipe were military men, so they understand the rules of engagement in a coup. The coup was purely a northern coup and their intentions was as clear as daylight. A coup is not a superiority contest whereby the most senior assume the seat of power. Every head of States was a Mastermind of a coup, Ogundipe was never one and cannot make himself a head of state without the coup plotters who had seized all the machinery of government. This was exactly how Ojukwu pushed millions of ibos into their untimely death.

From this silly deduction, it is safe to say that Gowon who claimed not to have participated in July 29, 1967 coup and publicly supported by the Yari.ba peeps should not have assumed the position of Head of State? Nigeria is indeed a basket of fools. What rules of engagement are you talking about? In a fractured coup, anybody had a shot to assume power. I can say you are not a student of history. If the coup plotters had seized all the machinery of the government, there should not have been a war. The July 29, 1967 coup plotters did not have control of government machinery in eastern region and Midwestern region. Maybe partial control of western region due to the brazen display of cowardice by the Yari.ba peeps who capitulated at the sight of Nigerian soldiers from northern region of Nigeria.

gidgiddy:


It is true that Ojukwu was at the Central Police Station in Enugu but he was hardly in hiding, everyone knew where he was and he was still the substansive Governor of the Eastern Region.

Do you know why the Northern Soldiers in Enugu could not do anything? They knew that if they carried out any coup in the East, surrounded by millions of Igbos, none of them would leave the East alive. They were less than a thousand of them.

But in the West, they knew Yorubas would be a walkover. So they just walked in, slaughtered the Military Governor of the Western Region, Lt Col Fajuyi, the marched down to Lagos chased away the highest ranking officer of the Nigerian Army, a Yoruba man who should have been the next head of state, Brigadier Ogundipe.

Can you imagine if Enugu had been capital of Nigeria and Northerners went and killed Ironsi and Ojukwu then brought Gowon to come and rule Nigeria from Enugu, surrounded by millions of Igbos? Do you think this would have been possible? Igbos would have burnt them and Enugu down.

Of the 3 main tribes, the only ones they could do this to are Yorubas

But the fact remains that when the Yoruba nation could not stand up for their most senior officer, Ojukwu stood by him

You are a clown.
Are Yorubas weak for not pouncing on the Igbos for killing Ademulegun, Akintola and Shodeinde ?

I have a reason for asking . I'll get back to answering you as per Yoruba weakness if you can reply my question . Please !!

seunmsg:


Dimka’s coup was made up of officers from the middle belt, there was no way such a coup carried out by a minority region would succeed. So, it was very easy for Danjuma to mobilize officers from the core north who were angry over the murder of Muritala and others from the south to counter the plot.

Orkah’s coup also suffered the same fate as Dimka’s coup. In addition, the plotters wanted to arrest IBB instead of killing him when they had the opportunity at Dodan attacks. Even if they had killed IBB, the coup would still have failed because of what I earlier pointed out.

In the case of Ogundipe, he was never part of the coup. That notwithstanding, he attempted to foil the coup by convening a meeting of the military ruling council immediately news broke out that a coup was ongoing. The council met and it was agreed that negotiations should be opened with Murtala and his boys at Ikeja cantonment. Gowon was the most senior northern member of the council and it was agreed that he should be the one to go to Ikeja and negotiate with the plotters while Ogundipe stays back at the state house. What the plotters wanted as at that time was secession (Araba) and not power.


On getting to Ikeja, Gowon jettisoned his mission and started making moves on how to take over as the head of state. Fortunately for him, he got the backing of Murtala, the entire northern military officers and rank and file, political and traditional rulers from the north and the American and UK governments. UK and US supported him because they were against secession of the northern region.

When Ogundipe realized that Gowon was a turncoat, he tried to mobilize troops to storm Ikeja but he was surrounded by northern soldiers and nobody obeyed his orders. Ojukwu who was making mouth on phone ran away from Enugu to hide in a police station in Onitsha. So, in the absence of any troop to call upon, he had no choice than to quickly leave the country. If not, Gowon and his northern boys would storm the state house and kill him because he was already a hindrance to him taking over.

I took my time to lecture you on what really happened so that uninformed Igbo folks like you can stop the misinformation.

Gowon has repeatedly denied being a participant in July 29, 1967 coup in Nigeria. It is funny how most Nigerians play the hand of their argument. It acceptable to you that Gowon who was most senior officer from the northern region to assume the position of Head of State while Ogundipe who was the most senior officer in Nigeria army not acceptable to you. Nigeria will never see progress as most Nigerians have a frame of mind reserved for the ninnies.

YeeboMuslim:

You are a clown.
Are Yorubas weak for not pouncing on the Igbos for killing Ademulegun, Akintola and Shodeinde ?

I have a reason for asking . I'll get back to answering you as per Yoruba weakness if you can reply my question . Please !!

Do not pat yourself on the back. Yari.ba peeps precipitated the most killing during the era in discuss. Majors Samuel Daramola and Ibrahim Taiwo readily come to mind.

Dedetwo:


From this silly deduction, it is safe to say that Gowon who claimed not to have participated in July 29, 1967 coup and publicly supported by the Yari.ba peeps should not have assumed the position of Head of State? Nigeria is indeed a basket of fools. What rules of engagement are you talking about? In a fractured coup, anybody had a shot to assume power. I can say you are not a student of history. If the coup plotters had seized all the machinery of the government, there should not have been a war. The July 29, 1967 coup plotters did not have control of government machinery in eastern region and Midwestern region. Maybe partial control of western region due to the brazen display of cowardice by the Yari.ba peeps who capitulated at the sight of Nigerian soldiers from northern region of Nigeria.

who is this idiot?. the coup was successful. the coup plotters determined who takes over the seat of power. whenever the seat of power falls, a coup becomes successful.
there was a war because ojukwu declared biafra in breach of the oath he had sworn to which had no secession clause. prior to that, northern soldiers no longer took orders from ojukwu in the east.

Dedetwo:


Do not pat yourself on the back. Yari.ba peeps precipitated the most killing during the era in discuss. Majors Samuel Daramola and Ibrahim Taiwo readily come to mind.

Answer my question and stop dancing around

Dedetwo:


Gowon has repeatedly denied being a participant in July 29, 1967 coup in Nigeria. It is funny how most Nigerians play the hand of their argument. It acceptable to you that Gowon who was most senior officer from the northern region to assume the position of Head of State while Ogundipe who was the most senior officer in Nigeria army not acceptable to you. Nigeria will never see progress as most Nigerians have a frame of mind reserved for the ninnies.

I stated clearly in my post that Gowon was with Ogundipe initially before he became a turncoat and seized power for himself.

I never said it was acceptable to me for Ogundipe not to become the head of state. My point is clear, Ogundipe was not in any position to seize power from those that masterminded the counter coup. He had no troop to enforce his seniority. If he had insisted, the plotters would have killed him without thinking twice.