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Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 6:53am On Mar 01, 2020
Population of Niger Delta States and Allocation
Bayelsa State-Population-1,704,512-Annual Allocation-N299 billion
Delta State-Population-4,112,445- Annual Allocation - 390,3 billion
Akwa Ibom State-Population- 3,902,051- Annual Allocation -672,984,760,760
Rivers State-Population-5,198,605-Annual Allocation-480 billion

No healthcare facilities,drainage,road network across the state and sanitation.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 6:59am On Mar 01, 2020
The simple answer is because the people are too politically sentimental in their judgement.

All of these states have been ruined by one particular party which has held sway for 99% the time

And anyone who gets elected as a flag bearer in this zone From that party can start dancing Uhuru because he would definitely go on to win election and re-election so no need to do anything except embezzle.


Seriaki Dickson is a typical example

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:11am On Mar 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
Population of Niger Delta States and Allocation
Bayelsa State-Population-1,704,512-Annual Allocation-N299 billion
Delta State-Population-4,112,445- Annual Allocation - 390,3 billion
Akwa Ibom State-Population- 3,902,051- Annual Allocation -672,984,760,760
Rivers State-Population-5,198,605-Annual Allocation-480 billion

No healthcare facilities,drainage,road network across the state,sanitation.

Because Nigerians have this flawed idea about development

They think that development is about sharing the money...which would then be used to import stuff, which would be used to pose.

Another thing is that the money we are calling is not enough. Bayelsa has 300billion naira...not up to 1 billion dollars. Delta just has 1 billion dollars, Akwa Ibom...2-3 billion dollars, Rivers, about 1.5 billion dollars....

Then you head to places like the US...where the amount budgeted by a teaching hospital for facilities expansion is 1 billion dollars.

Nigeria is a poor country. Our reliance on oil is making it worse. The only way for these states...and for every other state to develop, is to take the long and hard road to industrial development. Many oil producing states could develop a viable exprot industry on industrial derivatives from oil, fishing, making fishing equipment, and selling it to the African continent. That's how countries prosper. But no, we want handouts, and more handouts...and we take loans if the handouts are not enough

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:12am On Mar 01, 2020
Mikehot:
The simple answer is because the people are too politically sentimental in their judgement.

All of these states have been ruined by one particular party which has held sway for 99% the time

And anyone who gets elected as a flag bearer in this zone From that party can start dancing Uhuru because he would definitely go on to win election and re-election so no need to do anything except embezzle.


Seriaki Dickson is a typical example

Forget party...even if we replace PDP with APC in the SS...it will be the same story.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:17am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Forget party...even if we replace PDP with APC in the SS...it will be the same story.

Did I mention any party?

The truth still remains when a particular party sees governance as it's birth right, it can never take the people serious.

Must it be pdp/apc by the way

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by edoairways: 7:27am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Forget party...even if we replace PDP with APC in the SS...it will be the same story.

I agree with you

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:32am On Mar 01, 2020
Mikehot:
The simple answer is because the people are too politically sentimental in their judgement.

All of these states have been ruined by one particular party which has held sway for 99% the time

And anyone who gets elected as a flag bearer in this zone From that party can start dancing Uhuru because he would definitely go on to win election and re-election so no need to do anything except embezzle.


Seriaki Dickson is a typical example
Bayelsa receieves more allocation than Kano with 3 times it's population. And it still looks like a war zone.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:34am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Because Nigerians have this flawed idea about development

They think that development is about sharing the money...which would then be used to import stuff, which would be used to pose.

Another thing is that the money we are calling is not enough. Bayelsa has 300billion naira...not up to 1 billion dollars. Delta just has 1 billion dollars, Akwa Ibom...2-3 billion dollars, Rivers, about 1.5 billion dollars....

Then you head to places like the US...where the amount budgeted by a teaching hospital for facilities expansion is 1 billion dollars.

Nigeria is a poor country. Our reliance on oil is making it worse. The only way for these states...and for every other state to develop, is to take the long and hard road to industrial development. Many oil producing states could develop a viable exprot industry on industrial derivatives from oil, fishing, making fishing equipment, and selling it to the African continent. That's how countries prosper. But no, we want handouts, and more handouts...and we take loans if the handouts are not enough
Now oil is still relevant in the world economy the Niger Delta state should be looking to diversify. Too bad they only have leaders interested in sharing money.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:49am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Forget party...even if we replace PDP with APC in the SS...it will be the same story.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 7:54am On Mar 01, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
[s]Population of Niger Delta States and Allocation
Bayelsa State-Population-1,704,512-Annual Allocation-N299 billion
Delta State-Population-4,112,445- Annual Allocation - 390,3 billion
Akwa Ibom State-Population- 3,902,051- Annual Allocation -672,984,760,760
Rivers State-Population-5,198,605-Annual Allocation-480 billion

No healthcare facilities,drainage,road network across the state and sanitation[/s].

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by rollingrocks: 8:03am On Mar 01, 2020
author=catoluy post=87071294]

You caught him red handed. Why didn't he ask why Lagos state that has been enjoying the major part of the wealth from the Niger delta states for decades as capital of Nigeria just as Abuja is currently doesn't look like New York, Los Angeles,London, etc. By their post you shall know them. Afonja na dem!!!!

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by mrvitalis(m): 8:06am On Mar 01, 2020
Your figures are very very wrong
No state in Nigeria receives more than 250 billion per year ...its impossible

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by jesmond3945: 8:28am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Because Nigerians have this flawed idea about development

They think that development is about sharing the money...which would then be used to import stuff, which would be used to pose.

Another thing is that the money we are calling is not enough. Bayelsa has 300billion naira...not up to 1 billion dollars. Delta just has 1 billion dollars, Akwa Ibom...2-3 billion dollars, Rivers, about 1.5 billion dollars....

Then you head to places like the US...where the amount budgeted by a teaching hospital for facilities expansion is 1 billion dollars.

Nigeria is a poor country. Our reliance on oil is making it worse. The only way for these states...and for every other state to develop, is to take the long and hard road to industrial development. Many oil producing states could develop a viable exprot industry on industrial derivatives from oil, fishing, making fishing equipment, and selling it to the African continent. That's how countries prosper. But no, we want handouts, and more handouts...and we take loans if the handouts are not enough
i beg to differ. what 300 billion will do if we use local resources and manpower, 2 billion dollars can never do it. Julius berger will use 10 billion to construct a road in naija but use 50 billion dollars to construct the same road in america. you know why cheap labour and cheap materials.
Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 8:49am On Mar 01, 2020
I beg to differ. No state in the Niger delta receives such allocation anually and your post is very sentimental. Take Akwa ibom state for instance, more than 70 percent of the monthly allocation is spent on the cost of governance. How do you expect Akwa ibom to look like the capital of the most developed African country. You should be comparing Lagos which is a slum and Abuja to Johannesburg

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 8:55am On Mar 01, 2020
rollingrocks:


You caught him red handed. Why didn't he ask why Lagos state that has been enjoying the major part of the wealth from the Niger delta states for decades as capital of Nigeria just as Abuja is currently doesn't look like New York, Los Angeles,London, etc. By their post you shall know them. Afonja na dem!!!!

I know them very well. They are the most self centered people on this earth...they don't reason like normal human being. They won't tell you that Lagos is the next beneficiary of huge allocation after Niger Delta states even though it produces nothing. They won't tell you that Lagos was developed with Niger Delta oil money. They won't tell you that all the oil major companies are headquartered in Lagos, which helps Lagos economy.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 9:07am On Mar 01, 2020
catoluy:


I know them very well. They are the most self centered people on this earth...they don't reason like normal human being. They won't tell you that Lagos is the next beneficiary of huge allocation after Niger Delta states even though it produces nothing. They won't tell you that Lagos as developed with Niger Delta oil money. They won't tell you that all the oil major companies are headquartered in Lagos, which helps Lagos economy.
They won't also tell you that Lagos records IGR of close to 35 Billion naira monthly which is about 3 times of what Akwa ibom receives as it monthly allocation and they're expecting Akwa ibom to look like Johannesburg when Lagos doesn't even look like Kampala. Funny people

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 9:17am On Mar 01, 2020
Edygrin:
I beg to differ. No state in the Niger delta receives such allocation anually and your post is very sentimental. Take Akwa ibom state for instance, more than 70 percent of the monthly allocation is spent on the cost of governance. How do you expect Akwa ibom to look like the capital of the most developed African country. You should be comparing Lagos which is a slum and Abuja to Johannesburg

Want to know why 70% of allocation in akwa ibom goes on cost of governance...(note it is the same in every other state)

Because everyone expects government to create jobs.

And the jobs most people have in mind are government clerical Jobs, not industry related jobs.

So, civil services are bloated and the salary bill rises. And chops the allocation.

Which for most states isn't up to 1 billion dollars.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by awujale231: 9:39am On Mar 01, 2020
No state in Nigeria was designed to succeed
They are meant to be beggar states
And like beggars their pans are always out in Abuja.

No matter where you come from, it's a shithole

Nigeria is an almajiri nation, Wake the hell up and demand for the break up of this hellhole where life is cheaper than rice

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 9:46am On Mar 01, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Want to know why 70% of allocation in akwa ibom goes on cost of governance...(note it is the same in every other state)

Because everyone expects government to create jobs.

And the jobs most people have in mind are government clerical Jobs, not industry related jobs.

So, civil services are bloated and the salary bill rises. And chops the allocation.

Which for most states isn't up to 1 billion dollars.
This is understandable. Now using the OP's stats which is inflated by the way, if you convert Akwa ibom's annual allocation to dollars it's about $1,841,271,567.07 and assuming the state spends $1B on the cost of governance it's remaining about $800M which is $67M a month.. How many projects do you think $67M can execute. Thats why most of this states resort to loans... The federal allocation can do nothing for this states. There are a lot of things we need to change in this country

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by 7lives: 10:05am On Mar 01, 2020
catoluy:


I know them very well. They are the most self centered people on this earth...they don't reason like normal human being. They won't tell you that Lagos is the next beneficiary of huge allocation after Niger Delta states even though it produces nothing. They won't tell you that Lagos as developed with Niger Delta oil money. They won't tell you that all the oil major companies are headquartered in Lagos, which helps Lagos economy.

Tell us how much Lagos dey collect from the Delta and Bayelsa states government, awon werey.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by oyatz(m): 10:21am On Mar 01, 2020
Edygrin:
I beg to differ. No state in the Niger delta receives such allocation anually and your post is very sentimental. Take Akwa ibom state for instance, more than 70 percent of the monthly allocation is spent on the cost of governance. How do you expect Akwa ibom to look like the capital of the most developed African country. You should be comparing Lagos which is a slum and Abuja to Johannesburg


Many Nigerians don't understand what governance mean at the Stategic leadership level.

Any fool can go to Abuja, collect #300Billions as State Allocation ,use 70%
to payy Government officials and servants and use the remaining to pay contractors that will contract roads, few blocks of houses etc.

Real development that can take One million citizens out of poverty in one year can't be achieved like this system.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by oyatz(m): 10:30am On Mar 01, 2020
Edygrin:

This is understandable. Now using the OP's stats whch is inflated by the way, if you convert Akwa ibom's annual allocation to dollars its's about $1,841,271,567.07 and assuming the state spends $1B on the cost of governance it's remaining about $800M which is $67M a month.. How many projects do you think $67M can execute. Thats why most of this states resort to loans... The federal allocation can do nothing for this states. There are a lot of things we need to change in this country

Excuse me boss,

1) What projects have these Governors done to improve their revenues capacity.
What exactly do they do that aid wealth generation sir?



2) How can you be getting loans for projects that have no revenues generating capacity to repay the loans?


We need to start running Government with the private sector mindset in this country.
Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 10:54am On Mar 01, 2020
oyatz:


Excuse me boss,

1) What projects have these Governors done to improve their revenues capacity.
What exactly do they do that aid wealth generation sir?



2) How can you be getting loans for projects that have no revenues generating capacity to repay the loans?


We need to start running Government with the private sector mindset in this country.

You can also direct those questions to the FG. I can only write about AKS, the thing is the state uses bulk of the allocation on road construction and in a country like Nigeria you can't generate revenue through roads.

I agree with you on the private sector mindset, but the problem is most of this private enterprises when the decide to come invest in the country the central government directs them to a certain part of the country... The problem is at the centre not the states. Some states are barely surviving
Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Nobody: 10:59am On Mar 01, 2020
ANSWER:
Because the BLACK MAN is in charge.

CHARACTERISTICS of a BLACKMAN;
- dirty
- harsh
- crafty
- greedy
- poverty
- religious
- wasteful
- unkempt.
- tribalistic.
- impatient.
- insincerity.
- aggressive
- destructive.
- wickedness
- complicated.
- shortsighted.
- disorganized.
- loud mouthed.
- proud and empty.
For the TRUTH will always be bitter

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by PureGoldh(m): 11:02am On Mar 01, 2020
The answer to your question can't be far-fetched...it's simple...When we want to bring in a change in dx country...it should start within us

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 11:11am On Mar 01, 2020
EVILFOREST:
ANSWER:
Because the BLACK MAN is in charge.

CHARACTERISTICS of Me and my family;
- dirty
- harsh
- crafty
- greedy
- poverty
- religious
- wasteful
- unkempt.
- tribalistic.
- impatient.
- insincerity.
- aggressive
- destructive.
- wickedness
- complicated.
- shortsighted.
- disorganized.
- loud mouthed.
- proud and empty.
For the TRUTH will always be bitter
Fixed it perfectly for you.. You're welcome

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by oyatz(m): 12:04pm On Mar 01, 2020
Edygrin:

You can also direct those questions to the FG. I can only write about AKS, the thing is the state uses bulk of the allocation on road construction and in a country like Nigeria you can't generate revenue through roads.

I agree with you on the private sector mindset, but the problem is most of this private enterprises when the decide to come invest in the country the central government directs them to a certain part of the country... The problem is at the centre not the states. Some states are barely surviving


Every Nigerian has a State and /or reside in a State.

1) Is it the FG that will provide portable water, intra township roads with pedestrian walkways plus street light and good waste management for the people in each State?
Then why do we need States' Government?

2) There are private economic players in every State. The FG doesn't even know most of them, let alone direct them to where to operate.

In the First Republic when there was no oil Money, Sir Ahmadu Bello (the Premier of Northern Region) identified and looked for the best quality cotton seeds which he procurred en mass ,to be distributed through the Native Authorities in each Province and were planted all over the North.

He had trained Agricultural extension workers who traveled from Funtua to Bajoga, from Gboko to Bacita from Mambila to Worno going from Villages to villages providing expert services on the growth of cotton and within a few years, Northern Nigeria became one of the Largest cotton producers in the World.

Why can't we replicate the same zeal, seriousness and commitment with which the Ahmadu Bellos, the Azikiwes/Okparas and the Awolowos/Akintolas used in gennerating revenues for their administrations?

Federal allocation suppose to be a BONUS but not the sole source of revenues for each State.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 12:39pm On Mar 01, 2020
oyatz:



Every Nigerian has a State and /or reside in a State.

1) Is it the FG that will provide portable water, intra township roads with pedestrian walkways plus street light and good waste management for the people in each State?
Then why do we need States' Government?

2) There are private economic players in every State. The FG doesn't even know most of them, let alone direct them to where to operate.

In the First Republic when there was no oil Money, Sir Ahmadu Bello (the Premier of Northern Region) identified and looked for the best quality cotton seeds which he procurred en mass ,to be distributed through the Native Authorities in each Province and were planted all over the North.

He had trained Agricultural extension workers who traveled from Funtua to Bajoga, from Gboko to Bacita from Mambila to Worno going from Villages to villages providing expert services on the growth of cotton and within a few years, Northern Nigeria became one of the Largest cotton producers in the World.

Why can't we replicate the same zeal, seriousness and commitment with which the Ahmadu Bellos, the Azikiwes/Okparas and the Awolowos/Akintolas used in gennerating revenues for their administrations?

Federal allocation suppose to be a BONUS but not the sole source of revenues for each State.
� No need for this long epistle, there's no point in it..

We had a regional government then and apart from that planting cotton seeds wll get you nowhere in today's world. We don't have tecnology and the FG can't even provide steady electricity, How do you expect a state like kwara to survive with an allocation of just N2B.
After paying salaries and other things how do you expect it to provde amenities for it populace.

Even the federal government have resorted to borrowing. IF the fg cant get it right how do you expect this states to
Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Edygrin(m): 12:40pm On Mar 01, 2020
oyatz:



Every Nigerian has a State and /or reside in a State.

1) Is it the FG that will provide portable water, intra township roads with pedestrian walkways plus street light and good waste management for the people in each State?
Then why do we need States' Government?

2) There are private economic players in every State. The FG doesn't even know most of them, let alone direct them to where to operate.

In the First Republic when there was no oil Money, Sir Ahmadu Bello (the Premier of Northern Region) identified and looked for the best quality cotton seeds which he procurred en mass ,to be distributed through the Native Authorities in each Province and were planted all over the North.

He had trained Agricultural extension workers who traveled from Funtua to Bajoga, from Gboko to Bacita from Mambila to Worno going from Villages to villages providing expert services on the growth of cotton and within a few years, Northern Nigeria became one of the Largest cotton producers in the World.

Why can't we replicate the same zeal, seriousness and commitment with which the Ahmadu Bellos, the Azikiwes/Okparas and the Awolowos/Akintolas used in gennerating revenues for their administrations?

Federal allocation suppose to be a BONUS but not the sole source of revenues for each State.
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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Ojiofor: 12:48pm On Mar 01, 2020
Mikehot:
Did I mention any party?

The truth still remains when a particular party sees governance as it's birth right, it can never take the people serious.

Must it be pdp/apc by the way

I haven't read where you complained about same situation in Lagos state where one man chooses who becomes governor since 1999.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by Ojiofor: 12:52pm On Mar 01, 2020
jesmond3945:
i beg to differ. what 300 billion will do if we use local resources and manpower, 2 billion dollars can never do it. Julius berger will use 10 billion to construct a road in naija but use 50 billion dollars to construct the same road in america. you know why cheap labour and cheap materials.

Which 50 billion dollars for construction of road?
You think Europeans dish out billions anyhow like in Nigeria.

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Re: Why Do Niger Delta States Not Look Like Johanessburg With Highest Allocations by ruggedtimi(m): 12:53pm On Mar 01, 2020
Thats because bayelsa state is not controlled by whites.

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