For those that didn't read it thoroughly, blood donation at General Hospitals in Lagos State hasn't being stopped.
COMPULSORY DONATION being imposed by the health authorities is what was stopped.
There are many births that do not require donations, and the husband and family are held at gun point to donate. You will also sign off saying it was done freely by you before birthing or surgery is done or the patient cleared to leave the hospital premises.
That's not how blood donation works.

Lostz:
hospital should pay for willing donors then sell the blood like they normally do

Where would the hospital get the money to pay the donors ?? Nigerians sha

YeeboMuslim:

Where would the hospital get the money to pay the donors ?? Nigerians sha

Blood cost 7000 for those that can't donate and want to buy. The hospital should pay donors 2000 from the 7000

Lostz:
lies. they even ask you to pay before you donate to a relative.


are those doing the screening not working for the state at the expenses of taxpayers? same taxpayers you still want to pay for screening?

state paying means the screening should be done for free

Have you donated for a relative at a lagos govt hospital or have you given birth there before? They do not ask anybody to pay before donation at any lagos govt hospital, private hospital I dont know.

The screening is not paying the workers carrying out the screening, the screening is the tests run on that pint of blood, so you are paying for the costs of the tests run on that particular pint of blood which makes it certified safe for transfusion.

YeeboMuslim:
Where would the hospital get the money to pay the donors ?? Nigerians sha

the profit they will make from selling blood

Lostz:
people have been given birth safely since the beginning of the world without blood

Lol..
I'm sure you would also agree with me that people have also been dying from childbirth since the beginning of the world .

Having a blood handy is a necessity . You don't know a successful delivery till you are done . You have to prepare .
That's the way medicine is practiced sir .

Lostz:
the profit they will make from selling blood

Okay sir

I'll freely donate blood, the hospital will sell that blood for 15k.

delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.

fkj950ax:


Blood cost 7000 for those that can't donate and want to buy. The hospital should pay donors 2000 from the 7000

Well, I don't know the arrangement in that hospital . I already used UCH as a case study up there .
But at a first glance , the information you have doesn't seem accurate .

What if they could donate , how much does it cost ?

Lastly, there are professional donors and they get paid way way way way more than the 2k you proposed . Lol

NoToPile:



Have you donated for a relative at a lagos govt hospital or have you given birth there before? They do not ask anybody to pay before donation at any lagos govt hospital, private hospital I dont know.

The screening is not paying the workers carrying out the screening, the screening is the tests run on that pint of blood, so you are paying for the costs of the tests run on that particular pint of blood which makes it certified safe for transfusion.

why can't the test be done for free?

I haven't donate blood but one hospital almost forced me to donate blood when I can see my brother does not even need blood. I have to take him to a federal hospital and everything was done without blood transfusion.

Nigerian doctors should stop recommending blood for every minor case because of laziness

fkj950ax:
For those that didn't read it thoroughly, blood donation at General Hospitals in Lagos State hasn't being stopped.
COMPULSORY DONATION being imposed by the health authorities is what was stopped.
[b] There are many births that do not require donations, and the husband and family are held at gun point to donate. [/b]You will also sign off saying it was done freely by you before birthing or surgery is done or the patient cleared to leave the hospital premises.
That's not how blood donation works.

How do you know a birth that wouldn't require donation when an uncomplicated delivery can turn complicated.

NoToPile:



Have you donated for a relative at a lagos govt hospital or have you given birth there before? They do not ask anybody to pay before donation at any lagos govt hospital, private hospital I dont know.

The screening is not paying the workers carrying out the screening, the screening is the tests run on that pint of blood, so you are paying for the costs of the tests run on that particular pint of blood which makes it certified safe for transfusion.

You are doing well

YeeboMuslim:

Lol..
I'm sure you would also agree with me that people have also been dying from childbirth since the beginning of the world .

Having a blood handy is a necessity . You don't know a successful delivery till you are done . You have to prepare .
That's the way medicine is practiced sir .

the mortality rate is low when it comes to child birth. there will be close to zero mortality rate when if Nigerian hospital do their job well

I am in support of the government to stop blood donation before a woman starts atenental..it happened to me when my wife registered for atenental and I was asked to donate blood which I did.During child birth due to she undergone CS and I was asked pay for blood and screening and when I told them I have done that at the initial time, they said that is the procedure..All General hospital are same.. if you don't have the money at that time you are own your own
.

Lostz:
the mortality rate is low when it comes to child birth. there will be close to zero mortality rate when if Nigerian hospital do their job well

The factors responsible for the high maternal mortality rate in our environment are numerous .
It's not an issue of the hospital doing their job well alone .

That said , not every patient would undergo vaginal delivery .
God forbids a woman ruptures her womb during delivery , how do you cope without blood

What about the ones that need CS either emergency or elective ?? You need blood even though you might end up not using it.

We all should hold our leaders accountable .
Proper health insurance for all is the only way out .

The judgment belongs in the dustbin at least for now

YeeboMuslim:

You are doing well

Some people dont understand the tentacle effect of some things, A newborn admitted at the NNU at one lagos hospital needed blood and they started calling the banks of other lagos hospitals, they transported that pint from Island maternity to the hospital and it arrived around 11.20pm what would have happened if they didnt have there.

Its quite easy for people to type from their keyboards but if you have had to run helter skelter because of blood issue, or you have had a newborn needing blood or you are having a delivery and you need blood urgently and even your money fails you then people will understand that its not childs play.


The good thing is anyone who still wants to donate for the wife can donate

Joeboy88:
I donated blood for my sister during delivery.fortunately for us, she put to bed safely and they ended up not using the blood for her.My pain then was that I gave it as a free will donation but it's so painful that the hospital will end up selling the blood & if care isn't taken, it might be sold to someone that has to go borrowing to pay.Pls what is donated free should be give ad free to people in need of it.

I was forced to pay for 2 pint of blood in fmc Abeokuta even when my wife already delivered safely without using blood.


They refused to tell me she already delivered instead I was scared to believe they needed the blood urgently and I ran like a mad man to go pay for the blood. Immediately I gave them the evident of payment and that's when they told me of my wife's safe delivery.

All in all I thank God at least my wife delivered safely and everyone is fine now

I completely agree with the judgement, and the reasons on why it was made.

Unfortunately, many Nigerians are not altruistic enough to donate blood voluntarily. I hope people can be made to see the importance of blood donation, because if the blood banks are short of blood, then I pity emergency cases that need blood.
I wonder if that judgement covers those that need blood to be ready for elective surgeries..

noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.

It is an insurance, there are others who are very many who will definitely need it.

YeeboMuslim:

The factors responsible for the high maternal mortality rate in our environment are numerous .
It's not an issue of the hospital doing their job well alone .

That said , not every patient would undergo vaginal delivery .
God forbids a woman ruptures her womb during delivery , how do you cope without blood

What about the ones that need CS either emergency or elective ?? You need blood even though you might end up not using it.

We all should hold our leaders accountable .
Proper health insurance for all is the only way out .

The judgment belongs in the dustbin at least for now

with this judgement, people who don't want to donate will not be forced.

Nigerian doctors will want to transfuse you for even minor cases. if you want blood pay for it or stop selling it. imagine charging 7k as screening fee for one pint of blood

This is a good development I just hope they implement the changes. People are been ripped off everyday in Nigeria by sharp practices perpetuated by some government organizations legally.
I think it's high time the government start to review the practices of schools, Hospitals and even some ministries. Just as they banned keke and okada ban sharp practices.

munas:


The judge is a very foolish person.

I hope he will manufacture blood needed for transfusion when any of his family members is in dire need of blood transfusion.
I believe the Lagos state government appeals the judgement.

Senseless statement

drlaykay:
The judge is viewing the whole issue from a neutral point of view hence the reason for his decision..

There are some things u won't judge right unless you are in such environment. The whole idea will seem wrong and illogical to you. no matter the level of argument you will hold on to your views which you believe to be the best..

Firstly normal labour is a diagnosis in retrospect that is, u can't be 100% Confident that a labour will go smoothtly until the end of the labour and sometimes after 24hrs. Vaginal delivery is unpredictable let alone cesarean section.

Secondly, the blood bank needs to be rich. Nigerians don't have the habit of donating without being compelled. If u wait for every case to go bad before rallying round for blood, you might not get enough blood needed and the required compatible blood.
I have screened 3 patients relatives who visited the hospitaile we were in deer need of blood.
2 of t

Dr, how wood u replace blood u collected

delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.

yomi007k:


Not bad

I hope they won't start paying through their noses.

We don't want to donate anything yet we want the same service or commodity to be available.
We sure love miracles.

They should enlighten people on the need to donate and not force them to donate. Over 90 percent of women in labour don't need any transfusion. They even accept money if one doesn't intend to donate blood. Besides, these people will not give blood til it is paid for. Blood that was donated free.

NoToPile:


You pay when you need the blood not at the point of donation.

Whoever is going to use any blood donated by anybody will pay the amount used to screen that blood.

If your relative donates and you end up not needing blood you dont pay anything, someone else who needs it pays.


You really don't expect the state to pay 7k for screening every blood donated do you?

You are not being truthful here. The 7k is paid even before the bleeding is done, so it is more or less pay before service. And I want to ask u, are you saying that the private hospitals that rush to general hospitals to get blood also only pay for the screening?

Lostz:
with this judgement, people who don't want to donate will not be forced.

Nigerian doctors will want to transfuse you for even minor cases. if you want blood pay for it or stop selling it. imagine charging 7k as screening fee for one pint of blood

No doctor in a government hospital would transfuse a patient unless it is necessary .
What do you mean by minor cases ??

munas:


The 7,000 you paid is for blood screening and cross matching.

Nobody sold your blood. your blood was simply used for another person that was in need of blood and the person will also replace the blood before leaving the hospital.

how can blood screening cost that much? Are they screening for corona virus kwa?

SeunStats:
I donate blood monthly....after i went 4 checkup at a hospital and d doc told me i got too much of blood...

Donate blood monthly? Weldone.

You just summed everything up. I find it hard to reply people on this forum. How do you reply someone who either is dumb, or deliberately decides to be ignorant?

It's not just Island maternity. It's a racket in all the hospitals. They make you donate blood, and you still pay for blood. The painful thing is they end up selling the blood and pocket the money.

They never use it to help anyone. If you have an emergency at any of the hospitals, you either have a family member donate blood, or buy, or die!

noblealuu:


What do you say of a situation where someone's husband donates blood and still paid ₦7000. At the end of the day, the woman was delivered of her baby and never needed blood transfusion. Money was not refunded, and donated blood would have used for someone else. This happens in Island Maternity.

Lostz:
hospital should pay for willing donors then sell the blood like they normally do

in government hospitals, blood is not sold.
You only pay for the screening. The donor will be screened that is, carry out the necessary investigations to be sure the blood is free of diseases and determine the blood group and compatibility.

You are given blood free but u will be required to replace the blood you were given by looking for a donor.
This is done so that the blood bank won't be empty and emergency transfusion can easily be sorted.

The truth there is it'd be difficult to give out blood for free. Simple reason is that blood CANNOT or SHOULD NOT be transfused without screening for Transfusion Transmissible Infections. Screening for these infections cost money, storage of blood and blood components cost money. So it is not a crime to ask patients to pay at least a service charge. Do people think they can just turn on a tap and blood will flow for surgery? Call for a blood drive now and see the %of people who are willing to donate yet same ppl want blood to be readily available to them when they need it. Na Goat blood we go use?

This judgement just made govt hospitals more dangerous to visit.