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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Farki: 3:01pm On Mar 06, 2020
According to my university lecturers who made money from the amount of first class produced in the school yes. According to others I've seen make it without those things no. I know of a man who started as a shoemaker and then became a head at one of the major drink companies in the country. He didn't use certificates but experience to get him where he is so don't be discouraged.

Even with my certificate I'm going for another training course to get a more lucrative job.

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Checked86: 3:27pm On Mar 06, 2020
it is the certificate that is useless not the people
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Mar 06, 2020
Lilimax:
3rd Class graduates are not useless. Ask Professor Wole Soyinka wink

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Dwanay(m): 3:58pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:

Please I can't send the book per WhatsApp. I would gladly send per mail.

To all who asked, I will send in the course of the day. Cheers

The African Mentalist
OK sir...my email is ridwaino2015@gmail.com
Thanks
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by greggng: 3:59pm On Mar 06, 2020
Yes in nigeria they are tongue
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by DonJoseph01(m): 4:12pm On Mar 06, 2020
Yes you can still make, if only you work hard

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by DonJoseph01(m): 4:18pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:
You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki:

Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government.

The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor.

This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that.

The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely.

Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do.

The African Mentalist

Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy.

Akwajiafen@gmail.com
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Mar 06, 2020
Kelvin30286063:

I went to Bluescript IT college, Ibadan. Studied programming following on Php at the time but I have since developed my knowledge by training myself on many other programming languages and frameworks.
bro i may know u because i live in Akure, beside is there, a chance for me to put up as apprentice in ur organisation sir? Though part time because a civil servant.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by moseslarry(m): 4:38pm On Mar 06, 2020
Jones363:
quote author=Afromentalist post=87206266] You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki:

Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government.

The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor.

This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that.

The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely.

Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do.

The African Mentalist

Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy.
please I need a copy
Joneschisom@gmail.com dats my mail tnx u
Ls I need a copy as well.
Tosin.jax@gmail.com
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 4:44pm On Mar 06, 2020
Checked86:
it is the certificate that is useless not the people

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by moseslarry(m): 4:49pm On Mar 06, 2020
Opiletool:
You can take advantage of the Ad-on program offered by Institutions in Ireland. The program gives you the opportunity to earn a new BSc certificate in a course of your choice within a year. The new certificate nullifies the old 3rd class certificate you had. After the program, you'll will be granted a year post study visa, after wish you can apply for masters. And after the masters, you will be granted 2 years post study visa. Its also for HND graduates. Pm me for additional info.

Afternoon sir,
Just read this your post and I think I would like if you can explain further regarding how much it is cost for the program and period of time it will take do it etc. Pls get back to me on my email address: tosin.jax@gmail.com .
Thank you in anticipation of you response.

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 5:04pm On Mar 06, 2020
IamgratefulLord:
How can you say that? I know at least two people with third class degress that got that grade because they were activists in school. After graduation, they established their businesses and now they control millions. They employ 2.1 and even first class to work for them. This life gives to you what you demand and not what you deserve. cheesy

Those are the outliers... There are innumerable examples of first class graduands who are making innumerable contributions in their various fields... Even those who said "what the hell" just Bleep school and left, Lyk Bill Gates and Mark zuckerberg where first class b4 leaving... I think in Nigeria we celebrate mediocrity too much. Even those who brought about this aparthy in the Nigerian youths about Education lyk Kyosaki made his money from writing those books.. So don't be deceived, the fact that there are exceptions should not make you think that such exemptions are now the rule.. Even the fact that a 3rd class graduate is holding a viable position in the hub of academic indulgence shows an even bigger problem in the societal culture of our very nation... Though I share in the sentiment that the Nigerian Education leaves much to be desired, I still think that the individual can still develope such skills alongside good study skills.. Remember the purpose of all Education is not knowledge rather it's action. Which takes me back to Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, these 2 didn't formally finished school, but got the best of Education which move them past the tipping point of cognition to action..

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Frankicent(m): 5:13pm On Mar 06, 2020
Kelvin30286063:
Dude, I graduated with a 3rd class too. I didn't even bother looking for a job after school cuz as soon as I got to 400 level and I realized that only miracle can give me a 2nd class, I quickly opted for an alternative by learning programing from an ICT college part time.
Now I have my own ICT company and I'm doing fine with my own house, a small car and a beautiful wife. My life could have gone south if I was looking for a job and waiting to get one before getting married or moving on with life
The sooner you stop looking for a white collar job with that certificate, the better cuz if you are not well connected, you won't get any for another 10 years.
Funny fact is, my company is quite popular around Ondo state yet I still used a little connection to win a contract from a tertiary institution last month.
Knowing the right people can go a long way to determine how far you go in life.


thanks cool. Can I come working for you? Maybe internship. Need gain more ICT knowledge. Am at akure.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Fidelismaria: 6:03pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:
You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki:

Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government.

The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor.

This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that.

The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely.

Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do.

The African Mentalist

Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy.


Thanks
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Xclusiveme: 6:07pm On Mar 06, 2020
Wow!! The term useless is a strong word Op. Success isn't guaranteed by your certificate. There are lots of great things you can achieve in life with or without that cert.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Occurstaem(m): 6:08pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:

Please I can't send the book per WhatsApp. I would gladly send per mail.

To all who asked, I will send in the course of the day. Cheers

The African Mentalist
Thank you so much. I would like to have a copy too.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by emilfischer(m): 6:41pm On Mar 06, 2020
Unless they choose to.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Kawata28(m): 6:54pm On Mar 06, 2020
Most of captains of industries we have today struggled while schooling. Just stay positive and fight hard. Goan get nice trainings; stay blessed bro
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by lilmarley: 8:08pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:
You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki:

Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government.

The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor.

This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that.

The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely.

Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do.

The African Mentalist

Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy.


i just send a PM
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by mrpiro22: 10:40pm On Mar 06, 2020
tripplephi:




You are either in the wrong field or you are thinking wrong.

In today's workplace, SABIFICATE is higher than CERTIFICATE.

"Na who PASS KNOW book but na who get JOB KNOW THE WAY"

Learn a practical skill and be the best at it and the same employers will beg you to be employed

Another factor is WHO DO YOU KNOW..... some names are higher than BSC and even MASTERS.....

YOUR NETWORK IS YOUR NETWORTH



So if you are still running with the old brain mindset that your paper from school can affect your life, then you are either very very ignorant or just unfortunate.



THIRD CLASS PEOPLE THESE DAYS ARE THOSE WHO UNDERSTOOD LIFE EARLY AND KNEW THEIR PATH IN LIFE WAS NOT TO CARRY BOOK ON THEIR HEAD, and after school, it is the 3rd class persons', that becomes rich and better than the first class.

SO gbe body eh, shake of that quack mentality your experience has given you and go get 3-5 relevant self employable skills and watch how your life will change in a matter of months.



NB: The skills are FREE if you know how to use your MB data well. Some may even be here on nairaland in the business section.
God bless you my brother.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Afromentalist: 11:10pm On Mar 06, 2020
lilmarley:
i just send a PM
The book has been sent to all those who provided their email adress. I could not reply any pm because I have difficult access to the email I used to register here.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by sharone21(f): 11:22pm On Mar 06, 2020
You can't miss it by retraining to get skill based degrees eg Computer Science and Fashion Designing( Clothing & Textile) degrees.
In Cameroon, Computer Science is 3yrs(shorter years if you are a Science graduate) and Fashion Designing is 12months for Science graduates and 18months for Arts/Social Science graduates(3years course if one isnt a graduate).
You study these courses and become hot cake abroad.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by BarrElChapo(m): 11:28pm On Mar 06, 2020
Afromentalist:
You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki:

Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government.

The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor.

This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that.

The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely.

Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do.

The African Mentalist

Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy.

Kindly send me the book sir. Thanks
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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by lilmarley: 7:09am On Mar 07, 2020
Afromentalist:

The book has been sent to all those who provided their email adress. I could not reply any pm because I have difficult access to the email I used to register here.


I'll need it please, "dahlucifer@gmail.com"
Thank you for considering my request smiley
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Mrx101: 8:51am On Mar 07, 2020
Azazeal007:
This is really a sad moment for every Nigerian students out there, when you fit into a job description and then you found out they only want people with higher degree.

Graduating with a 3rd class or pass degree I believe is no sin. But employers out there would not even look at your CV when you are below par, no matter the amount of experience you are bringing. Some unavoidable things must have happened in school that led to that, but nobody cares.

How then do you tell that to the people around you? Especially your parents or guardians who’d be feeling like their investments on you went down the drain. When people finish from the university with a third class or pass degree, they most times feel like their whole world came crashing down on them. How then do one get to a good job?

I personally fall into this category due to some unforseen circumstances but who cares. After searching fruitlessly for jobs for a year now, I just have to sit back and think about my life.

My fellow Nairalanders what is the way forward?No job, no capital to startup my own business, no money to go back for a postgraduate course. Its just me myself and I (Owusagi)

My brother you are just facing the reality and am happy you are open for a change .

For those still in school,I crave your indulgence to see this as a lesson and work hard.

Obviously in Nigeria today, most jobs vacancies are as a result of contact but not for the private sectors.

Don't be deceived when some people will tell you that education is a scam or that your class doesn't matter. It all matters, job or no job.

But the truth remains that, theirs many opportunity out there to tap into. Just think outside the box and put on your entrepreneurial gear to land food on your table.

The question now is "what are you good at? How about the capital and where is your market. This what,how and where bring about feasibility study.

Keep on trying one by one till one work for you.
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Jman06(m): 9:05am On Mar 07, 2020
Mrpsly247:

Those are the outliers... There are innumerable examples of first class graduands who are making innumerable contributions in their various fields... Even those who said "what the hell" just Bleep school and left, Lyk Bill Gates and Mark zuckerberg where first class b4 leaving... I think in Nigeria we celebrate mediocrity too much. Even those who brought about this aparthy in the Nigerian youths about Education lyk Kyosaki made his money from writing those books.. So don't be deceived, the fact that there are exceptions should not make you think that such exemptions are now the rule.. Even the fact that a 3rd class graduate is holding a viable position in the hub of academic indulgence shows an even bigger problem in the societal culture of our very nation... Though I share in the sentiment that the Nigerian Education leaves much to be desired, I still think that the individual can still develope such skills alongside good study skills.. Remember the purpose of all Education is not knowledge rather it's action. Which takes me back to Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, these 2 didn't formally finished school, but got the best of Education which move them past the tipping point of cognition to action..
The purpose of education is not knowledge but action How do you act without knowledge?
I think the purpose of education is knowledge put into action because action without knowledge can be calamitous!

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by chukwumzurum(m): 9:06am On Mar 07, 2020
NO!!!
infact they're the ones that get the best of the work in Nigeria. they always have their ways.
certificate doesn't count atall in Nigeria..
it's strictly based on who know who...
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by moonnstar(f): 10:06am On Mar 07, 2020
SoNature:
If you are not connected, the certificate is as useless as the "P" in psychology grin


2'1 is even struggling to get a job let alone Passes and Third Class

Just drop the certificate and start hustling
You are not God

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 10:34am On Mar 07, 2020
Jman06:
The purpose of education is not knowledge but action How do you act without knowledge?
I think the purpose of education is knowledge put into action because action without knowledge can be calamitous!
If I had the tym and energy I would have disambiguated the various terms u have up there.. But note this it's very possible to have knowledge without acting.. It's known as paralysis by analysis. Those are the types that have their knowledge domiciled in their cognitive domain..

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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by SoNature(m): 10:49am On Mar 07, 2020
moonnstar:
You are not God

Sunshine, I didn't say I was God

I am just stating the obvious

Some of us who finished with much better grades even had to enter the street

It's not funny out there

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