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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:40pm On Mar 07, 2020
Do Nigeria need to fight England for Arsenal sensation Bukayo Saka?


SOLACE CHUKWU
Correspondent
23 hours ago

The teenager has been a revelation for the Gunners, and his performances have predictably sparked a conversation about his international future
Article continues below

By no means is Alexandre Lacazette the absolute authority on the pedigree of young players in the Premier League.

However, his glowing praise of youngster Bukayo Saka – he referred to the 18-year-old as the best young player in the English top flight – did not ring hollow at all. While it can be disputed, it is not preposterous.

The winger has shone in his repurposing as a marauding left-back, and has assisted more goals than any other player in the Arsenal squad so far this season. Put simply, while this has been an underwhelming campaign for the Gunners, it could have been so much worse without their new wing wizard.

England's left-back options all have question marks over them: Ben Chilwell has struggled to find his best form since December, the utility of Danny Rose's move to Newcastle United remains to be seen, Luke Shaw has only just begun to look serviceable as the left-sided centre-back in a back three at Manchester United, and Ashley Young is a little long in the tooth just now.

Tough luck for Nigeria then, who would have been hoping to snag another gem of the British production line undetected. It now appears that, if the Nigeria Football Federation wish to have the West London-born Saka turn out for the Super Eagles, it will come down to a protracted battle.

Herein lies a paradox: the very performances that have made him worth pursuing for Nigeria are also making him less attainable. With each passing game, it will only get more onerous.

So much so, in fact, that it is worth considering: does Nigeria actually need to be involved in this tussle at all?

The first layer of difficulty is the fact that Saka has played for England up to U-19 level, and so would require more than a little paperwork to switch his international allegiance.

This is even presupposing his amenability to the idea; he has been keen to embrace his Nigerian heritage at every opportunity, but that is not to say he would be willing to lay down all the perks that come with being a full England international. It is not a coincidence that, within weeks of committing to the Three Lions, both Fikayo Tomori and Tammy Abraham inked new contracts at Chelsea. As it happens, Saka is presently in contract talks with Arsenal.

However, there is a more fundamental concern: do Nigeria actually need him?

It may seem preposterous to suggest, but there is a case to be made he is not exactly essential, especially in his current guise. There is no denying his profile is attractive – he is unnervingly calm in possession, has courage, and possesses a telling final ball.

That said, the recent comments credited to Arsenal's head of youth development Marcel Lucassen – he referred to Saka as having "the potential to become one of the best three wing-backs in the world" – revealed the perception and expectation of him at the club. Far from being a short-term fix, his deployment at left-back might very well be permanent.

No disrespect at all to the position – full-backs are of the utmost importance in modern football – but do the Super Eagles have a pressing need in that area?

Consider this: his peculiar deployment within Mikel Arteta's system at Arsenal liberates him to be a force in the final third, with Granit Xhaka filling in for him further back.

It is not the sort of tactical adaptation that would be made for him at international level for Nigeria, where there's already a functioning system in place and he would be required to sink or swim—hardly ideal conditions for a teenager.

There is of course the option of simply utilizing him further forward for Nigeria, in a role the player himself has stated a preference for.

This is hardly unusual: in recent times, the likes of Victor Moses and John Obi Mikel have been pressed into service for the national team in roles that were different from those they played at club level.

Both, unsurprisingly, relished their heightened prominence in the final third when in green and white.

The results have been decidedly mixed though, which will come as a surprise to no one. The more time a player spends in one role at club level, the less suited he becomes to another, even while retaining a basic level of competence still.

As such, getting Saka and fielding him further afield would arguably not be the best use of his skillset, especially if he continues on the path to fulfilling Lucassen's prophecy

While there can be no denying Saka is a marvellous talent either England or Nigeria would be glad to have, it remains unclear at this time just how best that ability can be harnessed on the international stage.

—goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:58pm On Mar 07, 2020
Subzero047:


Etebo played like a warrior last match

Getafe play Agbero football and it suits his playing style grin


see I blame Etebo for your last statement. Anybody who goes to Stoke after performing like he did in la Liga deserves even worse
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:14am On Mar 08, 2020
Joebie:
Do Nigeria need to fight England for Arsenal sensation Bukayo Saka?


SOLACE CHUKWU
Correspondent
23 hours ago

The teenager has been a revelation for the Gunners, and his performances have predictably sparked a conversation about his international future
Article continues below

By no means is Alexandre Lacazette the absolute authority on the pedigree of young players in the Premier League.

However, his glowing praise of youngster Bukayo Saka – he referred to the 18-year-old as the best young player in the English top flight – did not ring hollow at all. While it can be disputed, it is not preposterous.

The winger has shone in his repurposing as a marauding left-back, and has assisted more goals than any other player in the Arsenal squad so far this season. Put simply, while this has been an underwhelming campaign for the Gunners, it could have been so much worse without their new wing wizard.

England's left-back options all have question marks over them: Ben Chilwell has struggled to find his best form since December, the utility of Danny Rose's move to Newcastle United remains to be seen, Luke Shaw has only just begun to look serviceable as the left-sided centre-back in a back three at Manchester United, and Ashley Young is a little long in the tooth just now.

Tough luck for Nigeria then, who would have been hoping to snag another gem of the British production line undetected. It now appears that, if the Nigeria Football Federation wish to have the West London-born Saka turn out for the Super Eagles, it will come down to a protracted battle.

Herein lies a paradox: the very performances that have made him worth pursuing for Nigeria are also making him less attainable. With each passing game, it will only get more onerous.

So much so, in fact, that it is worth considering: does Nigeria actually need to be involved in this tussle at all?

The first layer of difficulty is the fact that Saka has played for England up to U-19 level, and so would require more than a little paperwork to switch his international allegiance.

This is even presupposing his amenability to the idea; he has been keen to embrace his Nigerian heritage at every opportunity, but that is not to say he would be willing to lay down all the perks that come with being a full England international. It is not a coincidence that, within weeks of committing to the Three Lions, both Fikayo Tomori and Tammy Abraham inked new contracts at Chelsea. As it happens, Saka is presently in contract talks with Arsenal.

However, there is a more fundamental concern: do Nigeria actually need him?

It may seem preposterous to suggest, but there is a case to be made he is not exactly essential, especially in his current guise. There is no denying his profile is attractive – he is unnervingly calm in possession, has courage, and possesses a telling final ball.

That said, the recent comments credited to Arsenal's head of youth development Marcel Lucassen – he referred to Saka as having "the potential to become one of the best three wing-backs in the world" – revealed the perception and expectation of him at the club. Far from being a short-term fix, his deployment at left-back might very well be permanent.

No disrespect at all to the position – full-backs are of the utmost importance in modern football – but do the Super Eagles have a pressing need in that area?

Consider this: his peculiar deployment within Mikel Arteta's system at Arsenal liberates him to be a force in the final third, with Granit Xhaka filling in for him further back.

It is not the sort of tactical adaptation that would be made for him at international level for Nigeria, where there's already a functioning system in place and he would be required to sink or swim—hardly ideal conditions for a teenager.

There is of course the option of simply utilizing him further forward for Nigeria, in a role the player himself has stated a preference for.

This is hardly unusual: in recent times, the likes of Victor Moses and John Obi Mikel have been pressed into service for the national team in roles that were different from those they played at club level.

Both, unsurprisingly, relished their heightened prominence in the final third when in green and white.

The results have been decidedly mixed though, which will come as a surprise to no one. The more time a player spends in one role at club level, the less suited he becomes to another, even while retaining a basic level of competence still.

As such, getting Saka and fielding him further afield would arguably not be the best use of his skillset, especially if he continues on the path to fulfilling Lucassen's prophecy

While there can be no denying Saka is a marvellous talent either England or Nigeria would be glad to have, it remains unclear at this time just how best that ability can be harnessed on the international stage.

—goal

If he already knows the bolded, what is the point of this long article? He didn't even give any pros or cons of going for him.

Those people are already running propaganda for him to go Euro's. Me idea is that we start disturbing iwobi to talk to the boy (he might not want again after getting publicly burned on our behalf by Billing grin) that will carry more weight than corny NFF dudes who only want pictures for social media.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:19am On Mar 08, 2020
BascoVanVeli:



see I blame Etebo for your last statement. Anybody who goes to Stoke after performing like he did in la Liga deserves even worse

No I think Getafe is the right club for him

If he performs well and gets signed, he may be playing Champions league next season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 12:26am On Mar 08, 2020
Subzero047:
4th start, 4th clean sheet for Leon Balogun

Wigan has also climbed out of the relegation zone

Great news, needed competition for Akpeyi in keeping clean sheets.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:45am On Mar 08, 2020
Seems Rhor really likes Imama

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:49am On Mar 08, 2020
jihday:
Seems Rhor really likes Imama

Imama is a trained coach. At least, he knows what it entails.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:51am On Mar 08, 2020
tbaba1234:


Imama is a trained coach. At least, he knows what it entails.
true, he's a league winner

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:28am On Mar 08, 2020
Oh yes. A certain Yemisi Samuel bagged a hattrick for herself. That shows that all the goals she has been scoring in their practice games/friendlies no be fluke as she is their top scorer from the friendlies sef. Coach Banky try but it is not eureka yet until we land that WC ticket. Great Start.

Odunayaw:
The Flamingoes did well at Conakry today.
Defeated Guinea 6-1 away!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 3:02am On Mar 08, 2020
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 5:19am On Mar 08, 2020
elyte89:
https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/nigerian-descent-ikpeazu-representing-uganda-was-always-my/1ujd8d2la0txc1uiu875znyj1n
footballers too dey lie, just say 'I'm really delighted by this call up'. If he was banging in goals for Chelsea would he not be hoping for an England call?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:07am On Mar 08, 2020
jihday:
Seems Rhor really likes Imama

On a normal day it seems yobo is not serious
He does not know what he is supposed to do....
A reasonable employee will seek instructions, put a call across to his superior asking him what is expected of him as the qualifier approaches if there is any task to be delegated ?

The green horn coach is expecting Rohr to call him first

I have said it before...the appointment of this yobo was a square peg in a round hole

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:51am On Mar 08, 2020
Humility017:


On a normal day it seems yobo is not serious
He does not know what he is supposed to do....
A reasonable employee will seek instructions, put a call across to his superior asking him what is expected of him as the qualifier approaches if there is any task to be delegated ?

The green horn coach is expecting Rohr to call him first

I have said it before...the appointment of this yobo was a square peg in a round hole


Chief humility... Shey no b u praise yobo dt is appointment is far better Dan imama been in d saddle... I don taya for ur 360degree grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 6:56am On Mar 08, 2020
There is something not right with @stylebender tonight.
I just pray he wins!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:11am On Mar 08, 2020
Naija is in the building. Go Israel!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 7:40am On Mar 08, 2020
Still undefeated
What a beast

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:42am On Mar 08, 2020
Thank god I do not pay for UFC PPVs. Congrats to Izzy on the victory. An unconvincing win but a win nonetheless.


More grease to Yoel for bringing his A game at such an old age (42 years).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:47am On Mar 08, 2020
He did it!!! The greatest showman on the planet. All hail the King

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by etebefia: 8:30am On Mar 08, 2020
Nigeria certainly need Saka, forget this article, anybody can argue his opinion. The lad is in contract talks now and believe me once he extends his contract he will pledge allegiance to Nigeria.
Joebie:
Do Nigeria need to fight England for Arsenal sensation Bukayo Saka?


SOLACE CHUKWU
Correspondent
23 hours ago

The teenager has been a revelation for the Gunners, and his performances have predictably sparked a conversation about his international future
Article continues below

By no means is Alexandre Lacazette the absolute authority on the pedigree of young players in the Premier League.

However, his glowing praise of youngster Bukayo Saka – he referred to the 18-year-old as the best young player in the English top flight – did not ring hollow at all. While it can be disputed, it is not preposterous.

The winger has shone in his repurposing as a marauding left-back, and has assisted more goals than any other player in the Arsenal squad so far this season. Put simply, while this has been an underwhelming campaign for the Gunners, it could have been so much worse without their new wing wizard.

England's left-back options all have question marks over them: Ben Chilwell has struggled to find his best form since December, the utility of Danny Rose's move to Newcastle United remains to be seen, Luke Shaw has only just begun to look serviceable as the left-sided centre-back in a back three at Manchester United, and Ashley Young is a little long in the tooth just now.

Tough luck for Nigeria then, who would have been hoping to snag another gem of the British production line undetected. It now appears that, if the Nigeria Football Federation wish to have the West London-born Saka turn out for the Super Eagles, it will come down to a protracted battle.

Herein lies a paradox: the very performances that have made him worth pursuing for Nigeria are also making him less attainable. With each passing game, it will only get more onerous.

So much so, in fact, that it is worth considering: does Nigeria actually need to be involved in this tussle at all?

The first layer of difficulty is the fact that Saka has played for England up to U-19 level, and so would require more than a little paperwork to switch his international allegiance.

This is even presupposing his amenability to the idea; he has been keen to embrace his Nigerian heritage at every opportunity, but that is not to say he would be willing to lay down all the perks that come with being a full England international. It is not a coincidence that, within weeks of committing to the Three Lions, both Fikayo Tomori and Tammy Abraham inked new contracts at Chelsea. As it happens, Saka is presently in contract talks with Arsenal.

However, there is a more fundamental concern: do Nigeria actually need him?

It may seem preposterous to suggest, but there is a case to be made he is not exactly essential, especially in his current guise. There is no denying his profile is attractive – he is unnervingly calm in possession, has courage, and possesses a telling final ball.

That said, the recent comments credited to Arsenal's head of youth development Marcel Lucassen – he referred to Saka as having "the potential to become one of the best three wing-backs in the world" – revealed the perception and expectation of him at the club. Far from being a short-term fix, his deployment at left-back might very well be permanent.

No disrespect at all to the position – full-backs are of the utmost importance in modern football – but do the Super Eagles have a pressing need in that area?

Consider this: his peculiar deployment within Mikel Arteta's system at Arsenal liberates him to be a force in the final third, with Granit Xhaka filling in for him further back.

It is not the sort of tactical adaptation that would be made for him at international level for Nigeria, where there's already a functioning system in place and he would be required to sink or swim—hardly ideal conditions for a teenager.

There is of course the option of simply utilizing him further forward for Nigeria, in a role the player himself has stated a preference for.

This is hardly unusual: in recent times, the likes of Victor Moses and John Obi Mikel have been pressed into service for the national team in roles that were different from those they played at club level.

Both, unsurprisingly, relished their heightened prominence in the final third when in green and white.

The results have been decidedly mixed though, which will come as a surprise to no one. The more time a player spends in one role at club level, the less suited he becomes to another, even while retaining a basic level of competence still.

As such, getting Saka and fielding him further afield would arguably not be the best use of his skillset, especially if he continues on the path to fulfilling Lucassen's prophecy

While there can be no denying Saka is a marvellous talent either England or Nigeria would be glad to have, it remains unclear at this time just how best that ability can be harnessed on the international stage.

—goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LaMujer: 8:48am On Mar 08, 2020
etebefia:
Nigeria certainly need Saka, forget this article, anybody can argue his opinion. The lad is in contract talks now and believe me once he extends his contract he will pledge allegiance to Nigeria.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:07am On Mar 08, 2020
AndSunGorilla:


Great news, needed competition for Akpeyi in keeping clean sheets.

Clean sheet is a trophy shared by both defenders and keepers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:08am On Mar 08, 2020
LaMujer:




The kind of sentiment and delusion we have here grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by etebefia: 9:12am On Mar 08, 2020
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:31am On Mar 08, 2020
Arabiandude:

If he is destined to bring glory to the country, beg him

What glory ?

So a full country should beg one small boy ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:47am On Mar 08, 2020
BascoVanVeli:
Orji Okonkwo with an assist

Orji is destined for great things
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:59am On Mar 08, 2020
andrewbaba44:


What glory ?

So a full country should beg one small boy ?
just imagine

So, all the other twenty-three players we invited are not destined to bring glory to the country, it is one chunkuli baby wey dem dey push comot from ball, that will bring this glory

Somebody who is destined to bring glory to the country, will not be begged to fulfill his destiny. It is people like Dessers that have such destiny, some other people are just destined to be bit players for England, and that is fine.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:59am On Mar 08, 2020
Humility017:


How did you know.that the guy is training very hard

I understand that you have a soft spot for the guy....but you see there is little you can do for an unserious player...
He needs to advise himself if really wanna make it big as a 10


No mind super nerd

I think super nerd need to be realistic now about nwakali
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:06am On Mar 08, 2020
Blueelf:


We don't badly need anybody. I will take a loyal player with half his abilities than a player with no loyalty in him.

Nigeria will not self-destruct if they don't play for us

Tell them ,anything British they asslick

Even dessers wasn’t asslicked before he decided to play for naija ,dude got the real zeal

Any small thing ebere eze ,dem no go let us hear word ,you go even think say the guy Na Messi or Ronaldo self

Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:08am On Mar 08, 2020
safarigirl:
just imagine

So, all the other twenty-three players we invited are not destined to bring glory to the country, it is one chunkuli baby wey dem dey push comot from ball, that will bring this glory

Somebody who is destined to bring glory to the country, will not be begged to fulfill his destiny. It is people like Dessers that have such destiny, some other people are just destined to be bit players for England, and that is fine.

Lol

Tell them

God bless you for this statement

Just take a look at dessers ,dude might even make the Belgium team soon if he continues with his form but he decided to play for naija easily ,but dem no go let us hear word for one kukere championship player

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Provoker(m): 10:20am On Mar 08, 2020
Danielnino00:


Aina isn't a makeshift left back... What are u even saying ?
Was the left back role not the first role he was given when he joined the team ? Did he impress there? No! He was rightly dropped from the world cup squad for a washed up Echijele..now he has gotten another chance and is performing well there. . Why can't u give Collins time too? How long has he even been in the team? How many times has he cost us a game ?

Collins came back from injury at the AFCON and immediately assumed Aina's role in the team,and u say Rohr doesn't rate him? Rohr didn't even bother to give Aina the RB role. He left Awazeim there...

Collins still own the left back role until Rohr decides not to play him there again!
An seriously confused as to why many don't rate Collins here. The guy us decent and as if now he is the owner of the lb position not Aina
Collins is not that bad as people here paint him to be.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Provoker(m): 10:33am On Mar 08, 2020
Ok let's analyse, aprt from the Algeria game, which other match was Collins poor?
It was against mahrez ffs and everyone ignoring his fantastic burst from our half to Tunisia half, bullying the defender and a delightful pass to ighalo to score
Same way people don't rate Simon but now he is performing they are now praising him
Isn't it the same Collins that Norwich almost bought?
If Simon was having the stats of kalu then everyone would have said Simon was there because of the north quota

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:37am On Mar 08, 2020
The homosexual agenda in football has commenced.

Just look at these two legends...

*spits*

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