kokomaster3d:
[b[s]]If you are not careful, FBN can even sue you.[/s]

So you better go and face your life. [/b]

xtremecr8:

"Won" is not the same as paid. We don't even want to 'win' because that would mean they lost. We just want to be paid for our intellectual property. Nothing more.

SalamRushdie:
So this woman called Ani Mumuney hasnt stopped all this hanky panky behaviour , that's how she mad us waste resources in developing a third party business model for her department and after draining us intellectually and financially she took the finished model and handed it over to another firm and even gave the 500 thousand US dollars to implement the idea whereas my firm would have don the implementation for absolutely free whilst recovering our investments from sale of the solution to third parties but this woman and her cartel backstabbed us and handed my 100% original creation to another company where she obviously had interest ..But God being on my side they company failed to deliver and the project now moribound while I have made a ton of money deploying the solution with 3 other Banks who supported us and didn't back stab us ..

DNSPro:


Oh wow... thanks a lot. So technically, banks serves as the ESCROW in this case.

With reference to poor reputation of our banks in Nigeria and their inability or reluctance to assist your deal, how did you get another bank in a different country to stand in for you?

Did you have any previous relationship with the said country's bank prior to that event or you contacted them out of the blue (but how would they trust you in this case?)? or you used a friend in the said country?

JideAboderin:
Having been on both sides (Client side and Small Agency), I speak with some authority on this particular issue. The Bank in question prides itself in supporting small businesses and has helped a number of businesses grow from small to medium and onwards to being recognized as large organisations.

In listening to the story in the video, you would see that the bank gave the company some work in 2015 and again in 2018/9. That's 4 fo 5 years of partnership - at least. The story claims that the same bank turns around to "harm the business" in 2019.

My experience with the Bank as a vendor/ partner has been different. The bank gave me my 1st breakthrough when I had just started out and that has propelled me to doing so many other things. I was not as lucky as the gentleman in the video to get a 125 Anniversary related job but I can only imagine how competitive the 125th Anniversary vendor bids were and the process involved in job distribution.

All in all, First Bank of Nigeria is not an institution that punishes or bullies small companies but one that supports and helps them grow.

One vendor's video does not tell the whole story. We need to hear from the bank's other vendors.

Signed.
Concerned FirstBank Partner.

nathaliya:


I transferred the SBLC to a biz partner in another country who used it to trade while he applied for discounting and sent the funds to me. But depending on how buoyant you are you can actually set up a bank account abroad.

nathaliya:
Nawa o, going by another comment here the Ani Mumuney is notorious for this behaviour. I remember sometime last year I had an SBLC and needed some discounting service of 20-30% to meet up. This same wonderful bank refused to help saying it was my first deal. They watched that business nearly go bankrupt because I'm not a big fish. With God on my side, I was able to discou t the same SBLC from another country. Nigerian banks in general are just financial traps.

DNSPro:
Thanks a lot.

I would have preferred to have an email that I can use to reach you for future purpose cos sometimes, people disappear. Thanks for the lectures. it means a lot.

sammirano:
I don't even know where to begin with, are you claiming the contract was informal or there are no legal modalities to the duties and responsibilities of the parties. We should be hearing of this disagreement from the court's media or some other places.

BuddhaPalm:


I am no lawyer, but you don't need a contract to retain ownership of your IP.

sammirano:
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Are you freaking kidding me right now. What is the US accusing the Chinese of?

BuddhaPalm:


Theft.

Which is the same thing our guy is accusing First Bank of.

Once you create something, it belongs to you. If someone uses it without your permission, it's a simple case of IP theft.

You don't need a contract to keep something that already belongs to you.

sexylassie:
I don't blame her, I blame the company and other companies drained by her.

Most of the companies complaining aren't professional, you don't do business without contract, also you must also put in the contract, the penalty for breaking the contract.

They should stop complaining and start acting responsible.. People will take advantage of you when you don't have contract.

This is a lesson to the party involved

Act professionally
Always have contract in place for any stuff you are doing with another business.

xtremecr8:

Please come, let us reason togerher sir. We are going to use a familiar experience we all have, if your tailor sews you cloth, delivers it to you and you ask him to come back for you to confirm to him that the sewn cloth fits you, the tailor didn't hear from you but sees you wearing the cloth everywhere and when he comes to you to collect his fee, is it legal unit in ideal situation you refer the tailor who has served you diligently to?
Our trust was clearly broken because they had used and still using the same logo we designed. If they had held on and not used our design and if it wasn't clearly after we protested, we would go to their legal unit.
Sir, referring us to their legal unit was an afterthought because we protested against such an unfair situation and we have been threatened subtly even by people who consider our small size and resources by reminding us if we think we are ready for 15 years case or have money for lawyers to do case for years against a big brand like FBN.
Sincerely,we are not ready.We just want to get paid for our Labour. Many people need to know this and learn from this our experience with FIRST Bank

sammirano:


Well you need to, that is why people register patent and trademarks.

1. (1) subject to this section, the following shall be eligible for copyright -

(a) literary works;
(b) musical works;
(c) artistic works;
(d) cinematograph works;
(e) sound recording; and
(f) broadcasts.

2. (1) Copyright shall be conferred by this section on every work eligible for copyright of which the author or, in the case of a work of joint authorship, any of the authors is at the time when the work is made, a qualified person, that is to say -

(a) an individual who is a citizen of, or is domiciled in Nigeria; or
(b) a body corporate incorporated by or under the laws of Nigeria.

BuddhaPalm:



This is a copyright issue. Not about patents or trademarks.

(Even, under Nigerian law, you have protections for unregistered trademarks)


Copyright is automatic, from the moment an artistic work is created.

No registration of any sort is required.


This is the Nigerian Copyright Act: http://www.nigeria-law.org/CopyrightAct.htm






You don't need to lift a finger to get this protection.

famouscargo4u:


Can you handle a contract of cashew export based on LC? Chat or call me

nathaliya:


Thanks for reaching out, but I'm not into agriculture. Thanks

BuddhaPalm:
@sammirano

It appears your response was hidden.

xtremecr8:
Thank you for giving us your time(reply from FBN below).

The video showing our real faces and contacts are below.
We are not anonymous and the FIRST Bank official we mentioned in the video,Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney , is still alive and working in FBN yet we are struggling to pay our own bills.

Please follow our campaign on Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/xtremecr8?lang=en

Who we are:
We are xtremecr8tivity.An indigenous small sized Nigerian company.

What we do:

Our True Passion.We are experts in creativity, our true passion lies in using the brightest ideas to strategically connect brands.

Our Plea:
That first bank pays us our bill for creating their 125th Anniversary logo. We are a small brand, don't have the deep pocket financial resources for court cases that takes so much money and years to conclude. After they pay us for this job, we will think twice before creating IP works for First Bank.

Our Campaign:
We beg and solicit for your support to help us beg the big brand First Bank to pay us. We call first bank out over its insistence not to pay us for their 125th Anniversary logo we designed.
@First Bank breached our Intellectual property rights and wants to get away with it. 

Using a 125 years anniversary logo we designed and refusing to pay us is not the best way to celebrate.

Background is explained in the video and newspaper report below:

We worked hard to create the logo and when it was time to pay us, instead of paying us or referring us to accounts unit to discuss our bill, they refered us to their legal unit.Yes, we know we don't have money for 15 years case. We are small brand.And we hope other small brands will learn from our experience with big brand First Bank.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B8efKBsF27l/?igshid=1092xtnvmcfpm


https://nigeriacommunicationsweek.com.ng/firm-calls-first-bank-out-over-alleged-ip-infringement-demands-n125m/

BIG BRANDS SHOULD NURTURE SMALL BRANDS NOT KILL THEM.

BuddhaPalm:


Theft.

Which is the same thing our guy is accusing First Bank of.

Once you create something, it belongs to you. If someone uses it without your permission, it's a simple case of IP theft.

You don't need a contract to keep something that already belongs to you.

sexylassie:
I don't blame her, I blame the company and other companies drained by her.

Most of the companies complaining aren't professional, you don't do business without contract, also you must also put in the contract, the penalty for breaking the contract.

They should stop complaining and start acting responsible.. People will take advantage of you when you don't have contract.

This is a lesson to the party involved

Act professionally
Always have contract in place for any stuff you are doing with another business.