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NGpatriot:

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The topic is what has NIGIERIA done for the igbos?

bigpicture001:


Ur no.1 is baseless...the people found routes to market the traded with..govt is not involved....if for example govt created good railway system on the route already discovered by the traders,then you will say govt. Did something.

2. By virtue of being on a land nd all ur money exchanged for 20pounce, u turn next to agro...thats ur decision not the govt. DT u bought it from the north I'd exchanged for ur hard earned money....govt didnt intervene by subsidizing it cuz ur from war torn region or provide u cheaper means if t- fare...meaning,they did nothing

3. U HV not com to the east,hence u write as dou there are roads,rail,hospitals or housing.....

The ppl built half their inner town roads, the govt roads(F.G) are mostly dilapidated...but one can't deny the fact,it has once been done by d FG....but infrastructure in d southeast is the least in the federation

4. Did I hear u hv a say,wen everyone treats u like second class citizen..

Only major ethnic group not to lead the nation, FG keep mum,when Igbo's businesses are attacked all over the country.especially Lagos. Kemi adeosun was heard in a leaked tape degrading an entire already marginalized ethnic group, nd FG did nothing...which say do they HV when recently leaked project plans for next 30 years were released nd no south east zone....

Ur 5 nd 6 are baselesd, cuz the firms are not of FG nd no special intervention to Mk the Igbo's get jobs specially was made. The job relationship was mutual.....

So think well nd answer again. The OP meant what specifically has the FG done for them...

Like building almajiri skls specifically for the northern youths nd no where else, creating a 13% derivation fund for Niger delta nd no where else...

Nd delebrate infrastructure upliftment of the south west

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NGpatriot:

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oyatz:
Every Region contribute to the economy of Nigeria. I am ashamed to see supposedly educated Nigerians that don't understand this fact.

1) If all other regions stop working and Nigeria rely only on the sale of crude oil, will the money be enough for the country to import;

All meat we need?
All Leathers we need?
All the yams (including Pando yams) we need?
All the vegetable oil, palm oil, animal feeds?

All the maize?

In fact ,the money won't be enough to import food and clothes for the country



2) For instance, in the S/West ,the production of Agricultural produce, poultry products, Fishes Timber and wood products , livestocks etc meet certain needs of Nigerians. If these aren't produced, then Nigerians will be forced to take her hard earned money to go and buy these products in the international market at exhorbitant prices.


3) If the Northerners don't produce beans, onions, beef, leather, milk, rice etc, we will have to be importing all these at exhorbitant International prices.

The currency of Nigeria would have become worse than that of Zimbabwe.

My question wasn't an absolute one but related to the guy I quoted who says the SE contributes nothing.
So, I asked him, if the SE contributes nothing, what do other regions contribute to get all those stuffs?

The SE also contribute in agriculture Viz; yam, rice, livestock, etc too.

They also said the SE deserves what it gets cos it took up arms against the state. I agree but then why spend millions and even rehabilitate people whom have no reason taking up arms when a huge chunk of NE took up arms against the state too?
Oyatz my guy, I'm one of those Igbos who have accepted our fate in Nigeria; even though being oppressed, I'll never go violent or hate on anyone but remain diligent knowing that GOD got HIS people.

But, I'd like to ask you in all sincerity considering events from the current loans so far in the past 7yrs or so don't you think that an agitation from these people is rightful?
This is why most Igbos keep quiet when NK talks even though most don't support him but the hostility of Nigeria itself supports his attacks.

Personally, I have given up on Nigeria a long time ago but I'll never hate on anyone cos of anything for I'm sure the Igbos will survive this and this has actually made them better at somethings.

NGpatriot:





What is this one talking about?

Is the NE the reason why you are crying and wy your leaders can not deliver anything and must beg from morning till night?

Again, we've seen what you are capable of doing during regional administration when all the regions managed their own affairs when they managed and develop with their own resources, you came last across the board.

Lol
You can't even stay true to an argument, lacking in understanding and direction, a replica of NGA govt.
Oga, NE wails and so NC too and not just the SE.

So show me what your leaders delivered to you?
Regional govt? You came tops?
Stop hyping yourself that even before regional govt the SE was well into palm oil and that was the trade of high demand pro-, during- & post-colonial times.
Yes, aside ABA and some parts of Imo doing badly SE state roads are comparable.
Last across board indeed, that's what you still claim today! Can you publish your lousy figures here for all to see your fake words?

See, the FG has been spending billions of dollars rehabilitating, developing, even giving incentives for your people to attend school while in the SE especially, we eked out our living to attend same school yet, we are above average and not the region with highest poverty index. So may it continue at your peril.
I blame the OP who doesn't understand that GOD shames fools whom are penny wise but palm foolish

Susu888:
Because you said we should discuss intelligently let me give you one thing naija gave the igbos:

Naija gave the igbos the license to use and tarnish its name in countries all around the world by pushing drugs,selling contrabands, yahoo yahoo, robbery,cultism, human trafficking, kidnapping, Prostitution, baby factories and all kinds of heinous crimes you can think off.

How about that for intelligence??

Lol
So Igbos are the only ones caught in these crimes?
What human trafficking is worse than the movement of the girl-child for forced marriage silent over the years,

Kidnapping: Evans right? Surprise you Evans hardly killed his victims is if he ever killed them; he releases them when he makes money but guess those killing people on Abuja-Lokoja road, Kaduna, etc.?

Prostitution? Please where is this statistics coming from?

Cultism? Igbos? Check well

Drugs: I agree, very bad of us. But did you know that till date no Igbo leader has been indicted of drug crime or such anywhere in the world but let's check on Buruji Kashamu, Tinubu and even Gbajamaila.

Baby Factories: I agree too, terrible of us.
So, drugs and baby Factories are what gave Nigeria its bad reputation and not the greed and wickedness of your leaders starving their own people?

we didnt exterminated all of una....??

in the age of ghengis khan,i dont think you igbos would have survived it after defeat....
just my personal opinion....

una realy dodged a bullet,because nigerians saw una as brothers till the very end of the war....

you igbos dont realy understand what happens to the defeated....
war is nasty....

ooh well....okay....

kettykings:
Please can someone Name one thing Nigeria has done for the igbos which if left alone the igbos would not have been able to do for themselves either in an independent country or as a confederate state.

Please discuss intelligently

Area4Area I don't know why you're running away from this thread.

Come and answer this question.

ProWalker:


Jan 1966 coup changed the trajectory of the new county and Ibos were the architects of that coup

Igbos were the architect how?

I thought u guys say Niger delta is not Igbo, last time I checked the architect of the coup was from the Niger Delta

Guestlander:
There's nothing Nigeria did for any section of the country which if left alone they couldn't have done for themselves.
You could have made more sense if you asked what ibos have done for Nigeria, or themselves.

The kind of money Nigeria has poured into the north, if half is poured in Igbo land Igbo land would be the first fully developed region in Nigeria

Coldie:

Igbos were the architect how?

I thought u guys say Niger delta is not Igbo, last time I checked the architect of the coup was from the Niger Delta

and we know their are igbos in Niger Delta too....pure,mixed,who cares....!!

that arguement is not gonna fly no more....

adaka turned around and fought against you....!!

Guestlander:


If California were a country it would be between the 5th and 7th largest economy in the world. Why then is California still part of the United states?

Who wants to demand for a country from California when almost everyone in the state are immigrants?

Even there former governor Arnold is an immigrant

justtoodark:


and we know their are igbos in Niger Delta too....pure,mixed,who cares....!!

that arguement is not gonna fly no more....

adaka turned around and fought against you....!!

Niger Delta people woke up and destroyed Nigeria's democracy my only grouse with them was that instead of we igbos to join to punish these Niger Delta people for destroying Nigeria's democracy we mistakenly bought into the idea.

Niger delta people were the people who brought coup to Nigeria.

Coldie:

Niger Delta people woke up and destroyed Nigeria's democracy my only grouse with them was that instead of we igbos to join to punish these Niger Delta people for destroying Nigeria's democracy we mistakenly bought into the idea.

Niger delta people were the people who brought coup to Nigeria.

are you serious....??

CREATION OF SE STATES SPECIALLY FOR THE IGBOS.

justtoodark:


and we know their are igbos in Niger Delta too....pure,mixed,who cares....!!

that arguement is not gonna fly no more....

adaka turned around and fought against you....!!

Adaka that fought against us, out of greed.

Every time Niger Delta be setting bad precedent for future generations.

Proceeds from coal in Igbo land was part of what was used to run the east we no complain, the riverine chiefs ran the affairs if the east for long we no complain, but the moment they discovered oil this greedy mofos start shouting marginalization.

With all the talks about them being marginalized someone would have thought that since they have gotten there state as they always wanted away from the igbos by now Oloibiri would have been like London

justtoodark:


are you serious....??

Who is the architect of the coup and where is he from?

The question should be what have the Igbo elites done for the Igbo ethnic group

The kind of money they have poured into the north alone, not to talk of Niger delta, if half is poured in Igbo land igbos who left this country to America, would have returned long ago

DMerciful:
Did you watch Canada presidential debate?If you do then you'll wont be arguing. fyi I reside in Canada

How is to move to Canada. Planing to

obehi247:
The question should be what have the Igbo elites done for the Igbo ethnic group

Kaduna is about to receive 30million dollars from the FG free of charge. You can't imagine how far that money would go if it was received by a state like Anambra or Abia or Imo

How many Igbo elites can afford that kind of money?

Fg dash Kaduna 30million dollars, dash north east 300million dollars, but ordinary 2nd Niger bridge all of a sudden money no dae and they must toll the bridge to get back the money fg invested in it?

Is it fair?

Nigeria go think say them dae do we igbos, by frustrating us economically in this Nigeria.

One of the reasons why when alot of my brothers go abroad and engage in crime I only feel pity for them, u can't imagine what our people are going through in this country.

No region in this country can endure what we have endured.

I am trying my best not to hate Buhari. I keep trying, but this guy gives me no reason to even like him not to talk of love him despite my support for him.

Every single region benefitted from the 22billion dollars loan apart from the southeast. Imagine apart from nation wide projects the east did not benefit anything again.

Thats pure wickedness with full blown confidence

kettykings:
Please can someone Name one thing Nigeria has done for the igbos which if left alone the igbos would not have been able to do for themselves either in an independent country or as a confederate state.

Please discuss intelligently

Nigeria killed three million Igbos for wanting to leave.

Baby factory, fake drugs, drug trafficking, Advanced fee fraud, etc

Some times when arguing with ipob I as an Igbo dont have any points to use as a yardstick to debate why we should stay in Nigeria.

We igbos are not asking for what is not ours all we ask for is equity and let everybody be carried along but some Buhari psychophants would shout you down for demanding for justice just because they are benefitting from it.

Karma is real o

Coldie:

Kaduna is about to receive 30million dollars from the FG free of charge. You can't imagine how far that money would go if it was received by a state like Anambra or Abia or Imo

How many Igbo elites can afford that kind of money?

Fg dash Kaduna 30million dollars, dash north east 300million dollars, but ordinary 2nd Niger bridge all of a sudden money no dae and they must toll the bridge to get back the money fg invested in it?

Is it fair?

what are the Igbo elites in APC doing about that....

obehi247:
what are the Igbo elites in APC doing about that....

Tell me what u want them to do?

Can they force Buhari to make appointments, or in anyway do anything that will influence the budget?

Coldie:

Who is the architect of the coup and where is he from?

wait wait....we are intermarried....
its a igbo that will talk stvpid enough to go get the head of a president....

we deltans dont think that way....
we just tell you to fvckoff....!!