₦airaland Forum

justtoodark:
wait wait....we are intermarried....
its a igbo that will talk stvpid enough to go get the head of a president....

we deltans dont think that way....
we just tell you to fvckoff....!!

I ask a question and u didn't give me an answer who is the architect of the coup and where is he from, the answer alone would end all these long talk.

Coldie:
I ask a question and u didn't give me an answer who is the architect of the coup and where is he from, the answer alone would end all these long talk.

i already gave it....
whats your problem....??

justtoodark:
i already gave it....
whats your problem....??

Please quote where u did cause u are obviously not giving va straight answer

Coldie:
Please quote where u did cause u are obviously not giving va straight answer

somebody already said i talk in parables....
soo,understand or suffer....

its not my job to explain abc to you....

Some of your points are very misleading.
You
1) Are there International Airports in other parts of Nigeria?

And= Yes.

For instance, the Mallam Aminu International Airport,Kano is the busiest airport on the Nigeria to Saudi Arabia route.
There are International Airports in Port-Harcourt,Enugu and Calabar.

2) Can the FG compel Airlines and Air passengers to land in any Airport?

Ans= No

3) The old Federal Capital and Lagos State
are NOT exactly the same thing just as Enugu, the capital of the Old Eastern Region is not exactly the same thing as Enugu State.

The old Federal Capital was limited to Lagos Island, Apapa, Eti-Osa, Lagos Mailand and parts of Surulere LGAs.
Anywhere after the railway crossing at Yaba was never part of the old Federal Capital.

Ikorodu, Ikeja, Epe and Badagary Divisions of the State were never parts of the old Federal Capital but were parts of the old Western Region and many parts of these places were rural areas as at 1991 when the Federal Capital was moved to Abuja.

Cherez:
Lowest revenue for the FG, very correct. Let's analyse.
Currently, Ogun state generates heavily only cos of proximity to Lagos.
Now Lagos generates revenue cos of the concentration of FG's facilities there in the instance of airports, seaports, movement of the capital from Calabar to Lagos.
Now, imagine seaports are built in all viable seafront across Nigeria but no you hear of dry ports elsewhere.
(Before you claim I'm jealous of Lagos, Bros Lagos is trying and I want my state to emulate it in certain areas and may GOD BLESS Lagos state and the Yoruba nation who owns it) but the truth is that Lagos was made this rich by FG's nepotism.
Imagine that MM1 is about the only viable & most preferred airport in Nigeria cos of FG's acts.
So, no matter where you're from the South you must board a flight from Lagos, arrive and lodge in a hotel, book taxi, and even a foreign person will most likely spend time there(revenue in tax).
There are other seaports but govt will prefer that Apapa & Tincan is flooded making citizens pay demurrage on goods.
Does it make sense to you?
Same thing applies to Abuja.
The FG strategically drives revenue generation too.
Imagine the current loan request and there's no single project for the SE & tomorrow you'll rush to ask what?
Infrastructure drives development and industrialisation.

justtoodark:
somebody already said i talk in parables....
soo,understand or suffer....

its not my job to explain abc to you....

The coup plotters dont want to answer there name they are here beating around d bush.

Coldie:
The coup plotters dont want to answer there name they are here beating around d bush.

ok....
what now....??....you wan start a country with coup plotters....??

how long do you think it will take before we kick cownunu another saviour in the face....??

it as already started with asari....

justtoodark:
ok....
what now....??....you wan start a country with coup plotters....??

I look like ipob for your eye.

Coldie:
I look like ipob for your eye.

i dont know....
its not that ipob is written on ipobians foreheads....

DMerciful:
The only thing preventing these places from seceding is the lack of seccession clause. Quebec especially wants to secede.
I just told you California wants to when you ignorantly mentioned California and now you started interpreting what they meant by their own seccession as trying to assert independence.
Joker!

In the US Constitution, there is a secession clause but the State that wants to secceed MUST seek the approval of the two third of all the States in the United States of America.

justtoodark:
ok....
what now....??....you wan start a country with coup plotters....??

how long do you think it will take before we kick cownunu another saviour in the face....??

it as already started with asari....

Like we kicked your savior Ataka boro in d balls?

oyatz:
In the US Constitution, there is a secession clause but the State that wants to secceed MUST seek the approval of the two third of all the States in the United States of America.

and we both know its not gonna happen....

Coldie:
Like we kicked your savior Ataka boro in d balls?

adaka was your best chance to achieve biafra....

you blew it because of superiority complex....

do you even know he later joined the nigerian army to fight biafra....

justtoodark:
ok....
what now....??....you wan start a country with coup plotters....??

how long do you think it will take before we kick cownunu another saviour in the face....??

it as already started with asari....

I can never be ipob because ipob is not a reasonable organization. I wonder the kind of organization that would be follish enough to ask for restructuring and resource control knowing fully well that the people that will benefit are those at his back yard fighting against him and calling him cownu. If its up to me they would never be resource control even that 13% derivation would be reduced to zero

Bro, the problem largely due to this forum, NAIRALAND!


The comments made by the members supposed to be vetted in some ways.

In Qoura for instance, you register with known identies.

The names ,qualifations, area of expertise and experience of the commentators are often added when they comment on any topic.

#The Buhari administration is hopelessly nepotic but the good news is that it has three years left.

We will all overcome it.
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Cherez:
My question wasn't an absolute one but related to the guy I quoted who says the SE contributes nothing.
So, I asked him, if the SE contributes nothing, what do other regions contribute to get all those stuffs?

The SE also contribute in agriculture Viz; yam, rice, livestock, etc too.

They also said the SE deserves what it gets cos it took up arms against the state. I agree but then why spend millions and even rehabilitate people whom have no reason taking up arms when a huge chunk of NE took up arms against the state too?
Oyatz my guy, I'm one of those Igbos who have accepted our fate in Nigeria; even though being oppressed, I'll never go violent or hate on anyone but remain diligent knowing that GOD got HIS people.

But, I'd like to ask you in all sincerity considering events from the current loans so far in the past 7yrs or so don't you think that an agitation from these people is rightful?
This is why most Igbos keep quiet when NK talks even though most don't support him but the hostility of Nigeria itself supports his attacks.

Personally, I have given up on Nigeria a long time ago but I'll never hate on anyone cos of anything for I'm sure the Igbos will survive this and this has actually made them better at somethings.

Coldie:
I can never be ipob because ipob is not a reasonable organization. I wonder the kind of organization that would be follish enough to ask for restructuring and resource control knowing fully well that the people that will benefit are those at his back yard fighting against him and calling him cownu. If its up to me they would never be resource control even that 13% derivation would be reduced to zero

true....this is what cownunu never understood....

the greed of man is something else....

and moses was baffled as they wanted to return back to egypt....

wharever....

justtoodark:
adaka was your best chance to achieve biafra....

you blew it because of superiority complex....

do you even know he later joined the nigerian army to fight biafra....

That is why he got himself shot in the ass did he actually believe that after he was done fighting for Nigeria they were gonna grant him his Niger Delta republic.

No wonder all of the Niger deltans who fought against Biafra didn't end up well from boro to ken saro wiwa to murtala Mohammed

Coldie:
That is why he got himself shot in the ass did he actually believe that after he was done fighting for Nigeria they were gonna grant him his Niger Delta republic.

No wonder all of the Niger deltans who fought against Biafra didn't end up well from boro to ken saro wiwa to murtala Mohammed

he got shot in the ass....??
i dont know about that....

i dont even know what happened to him between and after the war....

justtoodark:
true....this is what cownunu never understood....

the greed of man is something else....

and moses was baffled as they wanted to return back to egypt....

wharever....

Thats y ipob needs my kind of greed.

The one that will reduce the derivation from 13% to 2%... Thats the kind of people that you people see as heroes

"It's not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country".
John F. Kennedy...US President

His country showed their appreciation by giving him a bullet to his head... Courtesy of the CIA.... Lights Out!

Murder the US president to keep him from signing the Civil Rights Act to give equal rights to black Americans. How are the Igbos treated?

Coldie:
Thats y ipob needs my kind of greed.

The one that will reduce the derivation from 13% to 2%... Thats the kind of people that you people see as heroes

you cant intimidate us to fight nigerian goverment for you....

go and fight them yourself....

justtoodark:
he got shot in the ass....??
i dont know about that....

i dont even know what happened to him between and after the war....

He died under mysterious circumstances during the war... Google it

justtoodark:
you cant intimidate us to fight nigerian goverment for you....

go and fight them yourself....

What are we going to fight against the Nigerian government for?

Are we loosing anything?

Someone who has nothing to loose in a fight has no reason to fight.

Coldie:
He died under mysterious circumstances during the war... Google it

ok....strange....i dont know much about him....

but i know he didnt liked you biafrans....

justtoodark:
ok....strange....i dont know much about him....

but i know he didnt liked you biafrans....

If boro could come back to life today and see what has become of the Niger delta, do u think he would be happy he fought or sad

khiaa:
"It's not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country".
John F. Kennedy...US President

His country showed him their appreciation for him by giving him a bullet to his head.... Lights Out!

LoL...

Front0lane:
Nigeria as given Igbos the presidency for 16 good years if that is not good enough for them they can go to hell. The shithole does not owe heaven Biafra a dime.

Foolishness is not good

RisenPhoenix:
But without open borders within a single entity, Igbo traders would have been immigrants, and there would have bewn taxes and tariffs on all their goods and services. It is not only about roads.



Again, most agricultural produce consumed in the Igbo regions is produced outside it. Without the presence of the Federation, Igbos would have had to import all their food.



I have been to the East; only it was a long time ago to be honest. The problem is not with the Central government but with the regional government. Federal allocatiins are adequate and commensurate with what other states are receiving, but to be sincere, the level of mismanagement of funds though endemic nationwide; seems to be much higher in the Igbo regions. I am sincerely no tribalist, and if you were sincere, I am sure you would acknowledge this to be true.



Igbos are the ones who marginalize themselves. They are open about their hatred of every other tribe in Nigeria; sometimes they even hate each other when there is jo one else to diss. You will see Mbaise man talking about Abakaliki man, and Imo woman talking about Anambra woman. Self-pity and self-victimization are not endearing characteristics anywhere. Yet the Igbos still have a strong showing in all parts of the decision making process, from the Senate to the Judiciary and the Ministries.



But the national body as a whole does permit movement of all citizens within the Federation. The Igbos are the most prevalent of all the Nigerian tribes within other communities. Their region alone could not have supported all their population at this standard of living. In the avsence of the Federation, the Igbos would have been immigrants in Kano, Port Harcourt, Lagos or Abuja where most of the jobs are.



Ok. Now I understand the specific meaning. Initially, the op attached his question to the other more common question of Igbo autonomy. So I based my response on the issue of being part of the Federation.

To answer your renewed premise, the projects you named in other regions are specific problems of those regions. For example, the Almajiri schools were primarily a response to the insecurity faced by the whole nation; not a specific favour to the North alone. The 13% derivation fund is as it states, derived from the resources in the South South and is necessary to address the resultant pollution and vocational loss. As for infrastructure projects in the Western regions, they are essential due to the greater presence of industry in those regions; and it is these industries that contribute to the nation's wealth making those projects economically profitable. Those are issues that directly affect the whole nation and not those specific regions. The Igbo regions have self inflicted issues that make them less attractive to investment; even the average Igbo man would rather invest in the West or the North; so they are not targets of viable FG infrastructure projects. Also, as is the case in all regions, allocations are made to the respective Igbo States for their internal development and very little has been done with these allocations. Are your State roads/schools/hospitals better than the Federal roads/schools/hospitals in yout region? The region's officials seem to be more interested in lining their pockets than uplifting their region, and instead of the Igbo people to hold them to task, they'd rather place the blame on 'Afonjas' or 'Abokis' as the source of their problems.

It is time for the Igbos to put away their carried over resentment from the now expired and historical civil war and work with others to move forward. Then they will have a viable case to present. Trust and friendship are not gained by force.

Right now how many immigrants from Togo and Niger republic pay all these taxes you are talking about?

Coldie:
Right now how many immigrants from Togo and Niger republic pay all these taxes you are talking about?

How many of them can work at the same economic level as Igbo people in Lagos? If you guys want to work only as gatemen and bakery attendants, fine. I take that back.

RisenPhoenix:
How many of them can work at the same economic level as Igbo people in Lagos? If you guys want to work only as gatemen and bakery attendants, fine. I take that back.

What are u saying, I asked a question u didn't answer why divert the question.

I repeat how many of these immigrants from Togo or Niger pay these taxes u talk about?

RisenPhoenix:
How many of them can work at the same economic level as Igbo people in Lagos? If you guys want to work only as gatemen and bakery attendants, fine. I take that back.

2nd how many Togo or Benin or Niger republic graduates do u know residing in Nigeria who work as gatemen or bakery attendants

kettykings:
all the olympic gold medals, foot ball tournament, first indigenous automobile plant, largest retail force in africa, best african male and female economist, best bankers in africa, largest markets in africa, largest spare parts cluster in africa, largest shoe cluster in africa, largest pharmaceutical open market in africa, largest transportation fleet in africa , largest inter state , inter region , inter country transportation companies in africa, most sold african novel in the world , world class female author, nollywood, best state owned foot ball team in west africa and sub saharan africa , best computer engineers in the world (emeagwali), best medical doctors in the world , (benneth Omalu).

I am igbo just like you but you see all these largest this and largest that is why they will continue to call us chestbeaters because you guys are so annoyingly boastful...

You should go through the thread below and see that the Yorubas actually has larger economic potential than anyone in this country but you will not see or hear them boast . In fact the thread below was out of anger of "Nairaland Igbos" always boasting... They are the richest as far as Nigeria is concerned and will not even feel it if Nigeria breaks up.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe