Sammy07:


Egbon, you're saying rubbish...

Do you now suggest we shouldn't have kings that are Yoruba.

Culture is entirely different from religion

He actually hates Yorubas.
He also hates Muslims who are not extremists because he thinks they are fake.
It may sound strange but remember that Boko haram also bombs mosques because
they believe they are killing "fake" Muslims.

APCNig:


The people are confused but not the Religion. Don't join the group of miscreants like the O.P., MUMURIC Ishaq Akintola, FFK and the idiotic current CAN President.

Why will you call the CAN president idiotic? Is it because he has not allowed your god to complete the annihilation of people for their lands in Nigeria? Or because he has not supported Shekau in his quest to entrench sharia throughout Nigeria?
If I call the sultan a mumu now how will you feel?

fortran12:

The hijab is a tool for suppressing women. Islam in general suppresses women

1 Timothy 2: 9-15 (NASB) says:
Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.[1Tim. 2:9–15]

ruffbamreal:
OP, you are so naive. There is different between religion and culture. Culture "is the totality of a man and it's environment." While Religion " an organized system of beliefs and rituals centering on a supernatural being or beings.”
Culture focuses on the human beings which is its social heritage, while religion is associated with the God or the Creator of the whole universe. Culture is concerned with the evolution of humans and their beliefs and practices.

Are you telling us that Arab don't have their culture? They wear "turban" and daramia not because they are Muslims but because they are in the desert which they use to protect themselves from sun and heat and because they are 99.9% Muslim hence it's tagged as Islamic culture but it's wrong. It is Arab culture. They have their culture and they practice their culture. Long before Islam the same type of dressing is been used.

Let us practice our own culture in peace. If you are not comfortable with it, middle East is not far. You can relocate there together with your family ASAP.

We are who we are and nothing can change that.

Who is saying culture should be scrapped? The OP never said that!

So where is this coming from?

We can't even read and comprehend this days?

madridguy:
How could a Muslim school allowed the removal of hijab from her female students all in the name of culture? How could there be intermingling, dancing and drinking of palm wine ? What is cultural in gourd filled with palm wine for under age pupils and students? What is cultural in dancing to Naira Marley's lyrics and beats?

May Allah help and guide us to His path, Ameen.

What is cultural in accepting a phucking useless and senseless oath before commenting on a topic on the internet? what is cultural in sleeping with underage girls and claiming it is islamic.
BULLSH.IT

Opexzy:


Ọmọ ale ní fí owó òsì júwe ilé bàbà ẹ. I am pained to the extent of almost shedding tears to see a son of the soil take side with foreign religion against your forefathers culture... Only bastards behaves this way.

What is wrong with you people. If i should ask you now how did you become a Muslim it's most likely because your parents are one. The same thing is applicable to Christians and the rest too and the chain continues like that.

When will you guys realize that religion in most cases, is about what comes to u first.

I repeat only a bastard son takes side with an outsider to destroy his own fathers house.

Check my signature.

Yes, we are bastards! And you are a bastard if you don't use everything your culture gives you!

It's part of our culture to prostrate to greet and this is forbidden in Islam.
It is part of culture to swear with ogun, oya, obatala, etc which is forbidden in Islam.
It is part of culture to go go to marabout, babalawo, alagbegba, Babalawo-alfa/pastor, etc for divinations about future or hidden things which is forbidden in Islam.
It is part of culture to believe in akudaaya (reincarnation) which is against the believe of Islam.
Cooking beans for twins is forbidden in Islam.

Our culture mandates us to respect elders and Islam uphelds this!
Our culture mandates us to treat our parents well and Islam uphelds this!
Our Culture mandates us to train our kids and Islam upheld this!

isram:
Seun is an islamic fanatic, they cover their evil and use any little opportunity to comment rubbish on Christian topics

And what are you doing on a fanatic's site? CAN also has a website, please port there.

Agboriotejoye:

Why will you call the CAN president idiotic? Is it because he has not allowed your god to complete the annihilation of people for their lands in Nigeria? Or because he has not supported Shekau in his quest to entrench sharia throughout Nigeria?
If I call the sultan a mumu now how will you feel?

I think you are depressed. Go and seek help.

Romanoff:
I had to accept your disclaimer to comment on this picture, not cause I meant to throw any religious jabs but just to break the rule.

If there's no disclaimer in Christian posts, why is there one here?

Cc lalasticlala

Please, answer me.

Don't be surprised! That's one of the characteristics of terrorists. They force you into accepting their religion. You can imagine what they'll do to people physically if they can do such nonsense online. And the owner of the forum keeps supporting and allowing such bullshi.t even though he claims to be an atheist.

And they claim it's a religion of peace. Peace indeed.

Chamber2000:
What do you want kids to wear for sports? I pity all these zealots

Lol...you think say many of this people normal? Same people that like to phuck small small underage girls even with their hijab on. Them go send their female pickin to Islamic school and after 2 or 3 months, alfa go knack am belle. Then you begin to wonder how they phucked even with all the long hijab. Lol..

Unfortunately you cant buy sense , I would v got u one ,

APCNig:


And what are you doing on a fanatic's site? CAN also has a website, please port there.

APCNig:


I think you are depressed. Go and seek help.

Sha don't end up blowing people up.

Nonsense. So I must swear to a oat before commenting on an Islamic thread! I wonder who the gullible mod that proounded this is, because Seun doesn't look like a muslim. Seun is a common yoruba Christian name.

AntiChristian:


1 Timothy 2: 9-15 (NASB) says:
Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.[1Tim. 2:9–15]

The verse didn't say they should go around like masquerades

Irrelevant post

fortran12:

The verse didn't say they should go around like masquerades

Na your masquerade?

Shebi your Ladies are nuding around in freedom and yet you call our hijab nonsense!

You must be extremely dumb!

AntiChristian:


Na your masquerade?

Shebi your Ladies are nuding around in freedom and yet you call our hijab nonsense!

You must be extremely dumb!

You words show how your dark heart really is. Let that sink in!

The hijab was not even mohammed's original idea, we all know the antics of Aisha picking up younger men even with the hijab. Islam oppresses women, we all know Saudi Arabia just started allowing females to drive etc.
I will like you to quote a bible verse that encourages women to go around nude.

With all your hijab here is an authentic hadith

Chapter: Breastfeeding An Adult

Narrated A'isha 'Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet (saw) and said 'O Messenger of Allah (swt), I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me', The Prophet (saw) said: "Breastfeed him!", She said: "How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man!?" The messenger of Allah (swt) smiled and said 'I know that he is a grown man!'. So she did that, then she came to the Prophet (saw) and said "I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhayfah after that. And he was present at the battle of Badar.


how about this?


...A'isha took that as a precedent for whatever men she wanted to be able to come to see her. She ordered daughters of her sisters and brothers to give milk to whichever men she wanted to be able to come in to see her. The rest of the wives of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, refused to let anyone come in to them by such nursing. They said, 'No! By Allah! We think that what the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, ordered Sahla bint Suhayl to do was only an indulgence concerning the nursing of Salim alone. No! By Allah! No one will come in upon us by such nursing!'

Hadith is sahih, (authentic)

Ref: Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal, page 192, hadith number 26208.

These Christians have problem oo. Islam is giving them headache and I pray they die of that headache

fortran12:

The hijab is a tool for suppressing women. Islam in general suppresses women

is it your suppression?

fortran12:


You words show how your dark heart really is. Let that sink in!

The hijab was not even mohammed's original idea, we all know the antics of Aisha picking up younger men even with the hijab. Islam oppresses women, we all know Saudi Arabia just started allowing females to drive etc.
I will like you to quote a bible verse that encourages women to go around nude.

With all your hijab here is an authentic hadith

Chapter: Breastfeeding An Adult

Narrated A'isha 'Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet (saw) and said 'O Messenger of Allah (swt), I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me', The Prophet (saw) said: "Breastfeed him!", She said: "How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man!?" The messenger of Allah (swt) smiled and said 'I know that he is a grown man!'. So she did that, then she came to the Prophet (saw) and said "I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhayfah after that. And he was present at the battle of Badar.


how about this?


...A'isha took that as a precedent for whatever men she wanted to be able to come to see her. She ordered daughters of her sisters and brothers to give milk to whichever men she wanted to be able to come in to see her. The rest of the wives of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, refused to let anyone come in to them by such nursing. They said, 'No! By Allah! We think that what the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, ordered Sahla bint Suhayl to do was only an indulgence concerning the nursing of Salim alone. No! By Allah! No one will come in upon us by such nursing!'

Hadith is sahih, (authentic)

Ref: Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal, page 192, hadith number 26208.

This is how you will be using Diclofenac for another person's headache. How is Hijab your concern as a Christian? It is not that you like us in any way but you just want everyone to be like you!

And as usual I have seen where you copied this misconception from. Read your response below in full!

Let us first look at the translation of the Hadith mentioned in the Sahih of Imam Muslim and elsewhere:

Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that Sahla bint Suhayl came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “O Messenger of Allah! I see on the face of Abu Hudhayfa (signs of dislike) on the entering of Salim, who is an ally, (into our house). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Suckle him.” She said: “How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) smiled and said: “I already know that he is a young man.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1453)

Another version of this Hadith is as follows:

Sayyida A’isha (may Allah be pleased with her) reports that Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i.e. the daughter of Suhayl and wife of Abu Hudhayfa) came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he has began to understand what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, think that Abu Hudhayfa feels uncomfortable with this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to her: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear.” She returned and said: “I have suckled him and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhayfa has disappeared.” (Sahih Muslim)

Before coming to any sort of conclusion, we need to first understand the background and context of this incident. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Sahih Muslim:

“Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Ma’qal…Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Qur’an “Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers….”Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be one’s own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear” hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)…” (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print)

The above clearly illustrates that Salim was adopted by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife Sahla. He had lived with them and was raised and brought up by them since childhood. However, Islam does not recognize legal adoption and a adopted child is not considered a real child, hence after reaching puberty, the rules of Hijab are applicable. It became very difficult for Salim to live with his adoptive mother due to this rule, thus the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) advised Sahla to make Salim drink her breast-milk, whereby the rules of Hijab would be lifted.

It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa’d and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose one’s awra in front of a non-Mahram adult let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba. (See: Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337)

This leaves us with the question whether is it allowed for an adult to drink breast-milk, and what implications would that hold?

It is a well-known and recognised fact amongst the majority of the Muslim jurists (fuqaha) that suckling is not permitted after two (or 2 and a half) years, neither does it affect the rules of Hijab and marriage. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) quite clearly mentioned this in one Hadith where he said: “…suckling is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2504 & Sahih Muslim, no. 1455) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: “Suckling (radha’a) does not prohibit (i.e. marriage) except which penetrates the intestines (m: meaning which serves as a nourishment for the child) from the breasts, and it is prior to weaning.” (Recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, no. 1152)

Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling and breastfeeding will only be considered (i.e. in effecting the rules of marriage and Hijab) if it takes place in the period designated for it, and it is of no significance after that period.

Thus, scholars mention that the permission given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Sahla to give her milk to Salim was a special dispensation and an isolated case, and it cannot be generalized. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states that all of the Prophet’s wives with the exception of A’isha (Allah be pleased with them all) considered this to be a special dispensation, and this is the view taken by the majority of early (salaf) and late (khalaf) scholars. They considered the Hadith to be specific with Salim and Sahla, and are of the opinion that it is not permitted for an adult to drink breast-milk. If an adult did drink breast-milk, it will be of no consequence with regards to marriage and the rules of Hijab. (See: al-Mufhim, 4/186-187 & I’la al-Sunan, 11/119)

Moreover, Umm Salama, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to say: “All the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to A’isha (Allah be pleased with her): “By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1454)

Thus, in conclusion, it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it.

And Allah knows best

AntiChristian:


This is how you will be using Diclofenac for another person's headache. How is Hijab your concern as a Christian? It is not that you like us in any way but you just want everyone to be like you!

And as usual I have seen where you copied this misconception from. Read your response below in full!

Let us first look at the translation of the Hadith mentioned in the Sahih of Imam Muslim and elsewhere:

Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that Sahla bint Suhayl came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “O Messenger of Allah! I see on the face of Abu Hudhayfa (signs of dislike) on the entering of Salim, who is an ally, (into our house). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Suckle him.” She said: “How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) smiled and said: “I already know that he is a young man.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1453)

Another version of this Hadith is as follows:

Sayyida A’isha (may Allah be pleased with her) reports that Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i.e. the daughter of Suhayl and wife of Abu Hudhayfa) came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he has began to understand what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, think that Abu Hudhayfa feels uncomfortable with this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to her: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear.” She returned and said: “I have suckled him and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhayfa has disappeared.” (Sahih Muslim)

Before coming to any sort of conclusion, we need to first understand the background and context of this incident. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Sahih Muslim:

“Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Ma’qal…Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Qur’an “Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers….”Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be one’s own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear” hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)…” (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print)

The above clearly illustrates that Salim was adopted by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife Sahla. He had lived with them and was raised and brought up by them since childhood. However, Islam does not recognize legal adoption and a adopted child is not considered a real child, hence after reaching puberty, the rules of Hijab are applicable. It became very difficult for Salim to live with his adoptive mother due to this rule, thus the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) advised Sahla to make Salim drink her breast-milk, whereby the rules of Hijab would be lifted.

It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa’d and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose one’s awra in front of a non-Mahram adult let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba. (See: Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337)

This leaves us with the question whether is it allowed for an adult to drink breast-milk, and what implications would that hold?

It is a well-known and recognised fact amongst the majority of the Muslim jurists (fuqaha) that suckling is not permitted after two (or 2 and a half) years, neither does it affect the rules of Hijab and marriage. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) quite clearly mentioned this in one Hadith where he said: “…suckling is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2504 & Sahih Muslim, no. 1455) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: “Suckling (radha’a) does not prohibit (i.e. marriage) except which penetrates the intestines (m: meaning which serves as a nourishment for the child) from the breasts, and it is prior to weaning.” (Recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, no. 1152)

Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling and breastfeeding will only be considered (i.e. in effecting the rules of marriage and Hijab) if it takes place in the period designated for it, and it is of no significance after that period.

Thus, scholars mention that the permission given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Sahla to give her milk to Salim was a special dispensation and an isolated case, and it cannot be generalized. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states that all of the Prophet’s wives with the exception of A’isha (Allah be pleased with them all) considered this to be a special dispensation, and this is the view taken by the majority of early (salaf) and late (khalaf) scholars. They considered the Hadith to be specific with Salim and Sahla, and are of the opinion that it is not permitted for an adult to drink breast-milk. If an adult did drink breast-milk, it will be of no consequence with regards to marriage and the rules of Hijab. (See: al-Mufhim, 4/186-187 & I’la al-Sunan, 11/119)

Moreover, Umm Salama, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to say: “All the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to A’isha (Allah be pleased with her): “By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1454)

Thus, in conclusion, it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it.

And Allah knows best

So in your dictionary suckle means to pour milk in a utensil? If its to pour milk he would have said so , but he used the word suckle and we all know what suckle means.



It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me.” The Prophet said: “Breastfeed him.” She said: “How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man? The Messenger of Allah smiled and said: “I know that he is a grown man.” So she did that, then she came to the Prophet and said: “I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhayfah after that.” And he was present at (the battle of) Badr.

حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ جَاءَتْ سَهْلَةُ بِنْتُ سُهَيْلٍ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنِّي أَرَى فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ الْكَرَاهِيَةَ مِنْ دُخُولِ سَالِمٍ عَلَىَّ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ أَرْضِعِيهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ كَيْفَ أُرْضِعُهُ وَهُوَ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ فَتَبَسَّمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ وَقَالَ ‏"‏ قَدْ عَلِمْتُ أَنَّهُ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَفَعَلَتْ فَأَتَتِ النَّبِيَّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ مَا رَأَيْتُ فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ شَيْئًا أَكْرَهُهُ بَعْدُ ‏.‏ وَكَانَ شَهِدَ بَدْرً

Suckle is translated breastfeeding, there is a portion called breastfeeding for adult men so where did pouring into an utensil happen? I know its embarrassing what your prophet practiced.

Hardebaryor:
is it your suppression?

Well, islam makes claims that it liberated women etc, I am here to counter that.

Hardebaryor:
is it your suppression?

I am here to debunk the claim that islam liberated women.

fortran12:

Well, islam makes claims that it liberated women etc, I am here to counter that.

And how is it your concern. I hope you don't have high BP because of Islam.
Nobody sent you. I tell you my own oo

Hardebaryor:
And how is it your concern. I hope you don't have high BP because of Islam.
Nobody sent you. I tell you my own oo

Thank you I appreciate your concern. However I will still go on my quest.

fortran12:

Thank you I appreciate your concern. However I will still go on my quest.

Don't die of high BP because of Islam

Hardebaryor:
Don't die of high BP because of Islam

it does not bother me, thnks

fortran12:


So in your dictionary suckle means to pour milk in a utensil? If its to pour milk he would have said so , but he used the word suckle and we all know what suckle means.



It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me.” The Prophet said: “Breastfeed him.” She said: “How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man? The Messenger of Allah smiled and said: “I know that he is a grown man.” So she did that, then she came to the Prophet and said: “I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhayfah after that.” And he was present at (the battle of) Badr.

حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ جَاءَتْ سَهْلَةُ بِنْتُ سُهَيْلٍ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنِّي أَرَى فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ الْكَرَاهِيَةَ مِنْ دُخُولِ سَالِمٍ عَلَىَّ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ أَرْضِعِيهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ كَيْفَ أُرْضِعُهُ وَهُوَ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ فَتَبَسَّمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ وَقَالَ ‏"‏ قَدْ عَلِمْتُ أَنَّهُ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَفَعَلَتْ فَأَتَتِ النَّبِيَّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ مَا رَأَيْتُ فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ شَيْئًا أَكْرَهُهُ بَعْدُ ‏.‏ وَكَانَ شَهِدَ بَدْرً

Suckle is translated breastfeeding, there is a portion called breastfeeding for adult men so where did pouring into an utensil happen? I know its embarrassing what your prophet practiced.

What is suckle in Arabic? What is suckle in utensil in Arabic?

AntiChristian:


What is suckle in Arabic? What is suckle in utensil in Arabic?

The verse says breast feeding for adult men. We all know what that means. Stop trying to play tricks

fortran12:


The verse says breast feeding for adult men. We all know what that means. Stop trying to play tricks

You still need to answer or keep mute.

AntiChristian:


You still need to answer or keep mute.

What is the question?

AntiChristian:


You still need to answer or keep mute.

Collection Sunan Ibn Majah
Dar-us-Salam reference Volume 3, Book 9, Hadith 1943
In-book reference Book 9, Hadith 2019
Reference Hadith 1943
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me.” The Prophet said: “Breastfeed him.” She said: “How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man? The Messenger of Allah smiled and said: “I know that he is a grown man.” So she did that, then she came to the Prophet and said: “I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhayfah after that.” And he was present at (the battle of) Badr.

حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ جَاءَتْ سَهْلَةُ بِنْتُ سُهَيْلٍ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنِّي أَرَى فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ الْكَرَاهِيَةَ مِنْ دُخُولِ سَالِمٍ عَلَىَّ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ أَرْضِعِيهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ كَيْفَ أُرْضِعُهُ وَهُوَ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ فَتَبَسَّمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ وَقَالَ ‏"‏ قَدْ عَلِمْتُ أَنَّهُ رَجُلٌ كَبِيرٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَفَعَلَتْ فَأَتَتِ النَّبِيَّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَتْ مَا رَأَيْتُ فِي وَجْهِ أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ شَيْئًا أَكْرَهُهُ بَعْدُ ‏.‏ وَكَانَ شَهِدَ بَدْرًا ‏.‏


These are the words of your prophet, he said breast feed not pour milk in a utensil. Again you have been caught. How can you suckle in a utensil, it makes no sense when the word suckle is associated with feeding from the breast.
You have no point, its halal to do these in islam