rottennaija:


How were these same words applied to Jesus disciples in Gethsemane? And most importantly, did it have the same context what Paul was discussing in 1 Co 15?

Jozzy4:



He is deluded .

Jozzy4:


The context was they were in a deep sleep., the exact same thing Paul was saying some who will go to heaven and reign with Christ won't do due to their instant resurrection.

Revelation 20:6 clarified this enough

rottennaija:


Funny that when speaking about Gethsemane, you don't actually quote the verse. What was is the context of 1 Co 15:31 - 58

Maximus69:


Once they're out of Jehovah's organization, the next thing is delusion and atheistic mindset that's totally unstable!

He was monitoring Jehovah's Witnesses Publications despite the fact that all the members of his family are JWs, he wants to accuse JWs of being evil people, OK does that makes his parents and other loved ones who are also JWs wicked people? The stupid idiot responded with rage "NO!" Yet they're also JWs who practices everything he is trying to condemn.
Now that i read through his profile and discovered he's been making effort to date those he can't even predict their beliefs, he is madly enraged!

Jozzy4:


Did they die or fell in deep sleep for considerable period of time at Gethsemane ?? Start from there.

Your no death position violate Revelation 20:6 which says those who will reign with Christ must have a part in First ressurection

rottennaija:


Bros, Quote the scriptures you are referring to.

Jozzy4:


I can't do your assignment for you. Cross check then come back to talk.

rottennaija:


You this stupid idiot, your ugly wife and yourself and your ugly children are enraged people. Whe you look at yourself at the mirror, what do you see? Didn't you ask your maker why he make you so ugly?

If I date who I want, how is that your business? Is it you? Or must I date who you desire? Take a good look at yourself fool, do you think I care what you think or want or desire? I give no damn shit about it.

So, if you like, take a rope and hug yourself, i don't give a damn about it. Those of your fellow JWs that has been running from one cong to another to search for someone to date, is there no women in those places they come from? Or is it that after using them, they are no more useful to them they have to look for others too?

You are the biggest fool Maximus69. I date who I want anr if you like, go hang yourself. I makes no difference to me. Kill yourself for all I care or become a bigger monitoring spirit, stupify fool.

Maximus69:


Jozzy take note, can you now see the true picture of the hopeless apostate demanding our heartfelt response?

Unrepentant fornicator!

So case settled!

For your information, i'm fifty now but if i stand anywhere around you the young ladies can't just take their eyes of the impressive posture of this handsome and charming man looking man like in his 30+, perhaps you need to know, i keep assuring my woman every minute of my love for her WHY? Because young ladies are disturbing me despite telling them i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Just this Sunday a young lady we both met in the field service after contemplating on my charming posture couldn't hide her feelings, she said "gouch are you also one of this bag carriers? My guy you Bleep up big time! How did this religion catch and brainwash a charming looking man like you?"

That's Maximus69 for you, i just smiled at her and try as much as i could to deliver the message i brought, trust slay queens she just walked past me angrily!

WHY? Another prospective victim is out of their reach!

So keep dancing around outside the city of refuge, your parents will only cry for some time and get over it when we're safe in God's kingdom!

rottennaija:


Lol, what assignment? You kept referring to a place in the bible but cannot point to it? Is that one talk?

I asked again! Which part of the bible are you referring to when speaking about Gethsemane? Point me to it and make your point.

Jozzy4:


So you are this ignorant of how that Greek word was used at Gethsemane, Remain like that or search it yourself .

Maximus69:


Jozzy take note, can you now see the true picture of the hopeless apostate demanding our heartfelt response?

Unrepentant fornicator!

So case settled!

For your information, i'm fifty now but if i stand anywhere around you the young ladies can't just take their eyes of the impressive posture of this handsome and charming man looking man like in his 30+, perhaps you need to know, i keep assuring my woman every minute of my love for her WHY? Because young ladies are disturbing me despite telling them i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Just this Sunday a young lady we both met in the field service after contemplating on my charming posture couldn't hide her feelings, she said "gouch are you also one of this bag carriers? My guy you Bleep up big time! How did this religion catch and brainwash a charming looking man like you?"

That's Maximus69 for you, i just smiled at her and try as much as i could to deliver the message i brought, trust slay queens she just walked past me angrily!

WHY? Another prospective victim is out of their reach!

So keep dancing around outside the city of refuge, your parents will only cry for some time and get over it when we're safe in God's kingdom!

rottennaija:


hope will fail as they always do.

Maximus69:


Jesus, Peter, Paul, John and countless first century believers also keep the hope alive.

So it's not only our own contemporaries that's been doing this!

Just tell everyone you're now an atheist and stop deceiving yourself as if you have interest in the HOPE spoken about in God's word!

rottennaija:


Sorry dude, claim as much as you like! They were not members of the religious order of Jehovah's Witnesses whose corporation is watch tower organisation started by C T Russell.

What they believe is what you despise, what they they wrote is what you reject. They believe is nothing compared to your trial and error fake believes.

What you believe is a delusion, an imaginary believes and it will never happen. So, don't be invoking the names of the Lord's apostles as a justification for your fake illusions. Theirs will happen, yours never will.

Take a careful study of your history and you will see that it's has always been one wild spurious claim after another that suffers from the weight of the over ambition of its writers wild imagination. All na fake and false and will remain so.

Keep deluding yourself. Last last, you will die, buried and nothing will happen. Russel deceived many, died and nothing happened. Rutherford came, deceive many even more and died nothing happened. 1975 came and went, Fred Franz for his over ambition and wild imagination wrote many books, JWs believed, Las las! He died and was buried. Nothing happened, his writings allotted its place in the dustbin.

The last gb came with this generation nonsense. The generation all died! Nothing happened. This present one is coming up with overlapping nonsense, last last! They will die, nothing will happen.

Its all a comforting illusion. Nothing more, they writings are not worth the ink it's written in. Las las, you will die with a comforting illusion, the next generation of JWs will change every doctrine and believe their own. As long as they do not go back to the original Bible teaching, nothing is going to happen.

So! Maximus69, keep deceiving yourself. Las las, nothing will happen.

Maximus69:


It's all about a HOPE!

So whether JWs or first century Christians, HOPE still remains HOPE, just admit you're now a HOPEless atheist and it's all over!

rottennaija:


Then you are as foolish as I never imagined. I'm guessing you are also hoping that when you die, you will someday be taken to paradise where you will have 99 virgins.

Hope my foot. I do not entertain hope that leads to disappointment. JWs hope is illusory and does not lead anyway. I realise that and I said, bullshit, I can't keep believing it and tell to anyone who cares.

Foolishness is hoping on illusion.

Maximus69:


Pour out your anger on Jesus of Nazareth, he started the HOPE thing NOT JWs!

rottennaija:


I have listed the hope of JWs that will fail. You mentioned being 50 (highly doubt that seeing your pix), at least! You will see many fail while the JWs starts jumping up and down looking for news explanations.

Let me state again for the last time, JWs don't have a real hope, what they have is illusion. Illusions appear real but are fake.

Maximus69:


Tell Jesus, he started the whole thing!

rottennaija:


Keep deluding yourself. Last last, you will die, buried and nothing will happen. Russel deceived many, died and nothing happened. Rutherford came, deceive many even more and died nothing happened. 1975 came and went, Fred Franz for his over ambition and wild imagination wrote many books, JWs believed, Las las! He died and was buried. Nothing happened, his writings allotted its place in the dustbin.

The last gb came with this generation nonsense. The generation all died! Nothing happened. This present one is coming up with overlapping nonsense, last last! They will die, nothing will happen.

Its all a comforting illusion. Nothing more, they writings are not worth the ink it's written in. Las las, you will die with a comforting illusion, the next generation of JWs will change every doctrine and believe their own. As long as they do not go back to the original Bible teaching, nothing is going to happen.

So! Maximus69, keep deceiving yourself. Las las, nothing will happen.

All the false hope will fail as they always do.

rottennaija:


You this stupid idiot, your ugly wife and yourself and your ugly children are enraged people. Whe you look at yourself at the mirror, what do you see? Didn't you ask your maker why he make you so ugly?

If I date who I want, how is that your business? Is it you? Or must I date who you desire? Take a good look at yourself fool, do you think I care what you think or want or desire? I give no damn shit about it.

So, if you like, take a rope and hug yourself, i don't give a damn about it. Those of your fellow JWs that has been running from one cong to another to search for someone to date, is there no women in those places they come from? Or is it that after using them, they are no more useful to them they have to look for others too?

You are the biggest fool Maximus69. I date who I want anr if you like, go hang yourself. I makes no difference to me. Kill yourself for all I care or become a bigger monitoring spirit, stupify fool.

Jozzy4:


So u still have mouth to talk after fooling yourself on Nairaland with human spirit being and humans but not flesh and blood BLUNDERS shows you don't know shit about what u talking about. Its even interesting that your JWFACT author renounce believe in the bible as Gods word. Satanic influence at work.

The people you are attacking Are by Far better since they have full belief that Jesus statement about this generation cannot go unfulfilled, they diligently try to study and see what those words meant. I know If I ask you now that do you have a better understanding , You CANT PRODUCE ANY. That means you are empty

rottennaija:


Lol, what assignment? You kept referring to a place in the bible but cannot point to it? Is that one talk?

I asked again! Which part of the bible are you referring to when speaking about Gethsemane? Point me to it and make your point.

Jozzy4:


So u still have mouth to talk after fooling yourself on Nairaland with human spirit being and humans but not flesh and blood BLUNDERS shows you don't know shit about what u talking about. Its even interesting that your JWFACT author renounce believe in the bible as Gods word. Satanic influence at work.

The people you are attacking Are by Far better since they have full belief that Jesus statement about this generation cannot go unfulfilled, they diligently try to study and see what those words meant. I know If I ask you now that do you have a better understanding , You CANT PRODUCE ANY. That means you are empty

rottennaija:


As I remember correctly, I asked you a nomenclature for it and you won't provide any. So coined a word for it. Go back to the thread and learn

rottennaija:


When you provide the scriptures I asked for, you can quote me

Jozzy4:


Stupid person. Anything human is flesh and blood.

Jozzy4:


Are u this empty ?

rottennaija:


So Jesus is to blame for your false illusion?

rottennaija:

Yes, idiotic fellow, and you have elders... Do we now have Elderly spirits? Fool

Maximus69:


Since you hate people nursing faith, hope and love! 1Corinthians 13:13

Go and face Jesus, because i'm seeing the fulfilment of most of his promises in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses!

But it seems you're not seeing any of that, and if you're not seeing any it means Jesus should be the one to face as you're not seeing any of the fulfilment of his prayers!