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Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by nsiba: 5:46am On Mar 27, 2020 |
ibibiogrl:. Aboikpa I cant forget what d co-ck at d first crow at dawn said about you ' she is you talk one, she talks 100 type" Again just adjacent the Paramount ruler palace
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Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 8:23am On Mar 27, 2020 |
Blackking98:At last something positive has come out of this Good that you have actually started asking your father to learn more about your family history. Because all my write up to stress that Ibibio has many dialect was taken as a disunity campaign by you I don't care about Urhobos being the 4th largest group or whatever So you are wrong that was not the thread I was talking about. Like I said I only cared when my ancestors were being Insulted. So I have called both Ur attention to 1 of such threads. I've been trying to post the link & quotes here since last week but am always blocked daily by Spambot |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by orisa37: 8:40am On Mar 27, 2020 |
Ikpeme can sue them for being so arrogant and silly. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 8:59am On Mar 27, 2020 |
Blackking98:If they will understand than you should have been able to understand the basic Annang short sentence that I wrote to interprete it in English If you can read English very well, you should have read that I've been saying that only younger Ibibios who were born after 1987 & therefore grew tin AKS will not fully understand Efik except basic part that's similar to ibibio. E.g. using U if can't understand the basic Annang sentence written down. How can you understand if someone spoke that with a deeper acent Y would U use Ur father to compare to someone born after 87? What has my living abroad got to do with defending my ancestors? nsiba:Here is the link to the thread with the quotes in Ur post. It's only 2pages so you should Read the whole thread and Remember that, next time U accuse me of disrupting your unities campaign. Blackking98 Read this thread and per attention to what ur Calabar people wrote about my people. https://www.nairaland.com/4110925/ini-edo-rocks-ibibio-traditional 1 Like |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by Blackking98(m): 9:38am On Mar 27, 2020 |
nsiba:I don't know if ibibiogrl is using language as a basis of her division campaign. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by Blackking98(m): 9:50am On Mar 27, 2020 |
ibibiogrl:your points are unproven really, I know many Akwa ibomites born after 87 who understand Efik to a certain point, it's just natural as ibibio and Efik languages are mutually intelligible to a certain point so saying an Akwa ibomite born after 87 won't understand efik isn't entirely true, if the person understands ibibio he or she will understand efik to a certain point. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 7:17pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
Blackking98:Ridiculous what is the difference between "a certain point" AND "to an extent"? Am not going to teach you English here because I gave that meaning immediately after; in the sentence of basic parts.....Use a dictionary to find the meaning of " TO AN EXTENT" ibibiogrl: Blackking98:What division campaign When I've been saying language are most similar. Below is another post of mine; .DO YOU SPEAK any of these languages you listed above? If not why are you confidently saying that they understand each other with just minor dialectical differences? Please don't compare your Ikwere/Igbo war to us, because it is not the same situation. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by Blackking98(m): 11:00pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
ibibiogrl:okay |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by bigfrancis21: 4:49am On Mar 28, 2020 |
Nowenuse: You have a point but not completely. Igbos of the past saw all others around them as 'Igbo' but not them. Igbere (Igbo ere) in Abia state was given by the townspeople in reference to the Aro slave traders' failed attempts to invade and defeat them in their bid to acquire slaves. In memory of their victory, they named their town, Igbo ereghi/Igbo ere (Igbos could not sell us), or Igbere for short. That is, they saw the Aros (ironically, people who have links with the Ibibio) as Igbos but not them even though they all spoke the same language. The Owere people saw others around them as 'Isoma' but not them. The Ikweres saw non-Ikweres as 'Isoma' but not them. And so on. I think this stems from the waves of migratory pattern in the past. When people crossed borders and moved into new linguistic domains and settled, they often may not have mentally identified themselves as the 'original people'/'sons of the land', or 'Igbos' despite having acculturated completely linguistically, culturally and otherwise. Thus, when asked if they were Igbo, they would point out to their next door neighbors who they met there upon arrival as the Igbos aka original occupants or predecessors or 'sons of the soil' etc. A good example would be some Yorubas who settled in Imo state and 3 generations later, their descendants are completely Igbo in names, language, culture etc but with retained memories of their ancestral origins in Ogun state, for example. Due to their ancestral origins being in mind and despite being Igbo today, they may point to other towns surrounding them as the Igbos (aborigines) if asked, and not them. Not that they thought being Igbo was bad per se and they were denying being attached to the name. The fact that Igbos lost the war didn't help but added more salt to the lingering and seemingly insignificant injury. Ironically, we have plenty of Igbo-attached names all over Igbo-speaking SE and SS areas. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by Nowenuse: 10:31am On Mar 28, 2020 |
bigfrancis21: Your explanation makes a lot of sense. But I think that Igbo tag would not really apply to larger Igbo subgroups who had a strong subtribal identity and culture, like the Nkanu, Nsukka, Enuani, Ukwuani, Ngwa e.t.c I'm very sure all Igbo speaking people across the east knew the subgroups above with the names they call themselves... I highly doubt that someone across the Niger would have addressed an Enuani man as IGBO in those days. Take Onitsha & Oguta for example, these were communities in the east founded by Anioma immigrants some few hundred years ago. However, their neighbors in the East never addressed them as Igbo, rather they were the ones who addressed their neighbors as Igbo. While communities in Western Igbo land founded by immigrants from the East had the 'Igbo appellation' cos the Western Igbos saw them as Igbos. From all these narratives, it is quite clear that every Igbo speaking person had a certain definition of who he thought was 'Igbo' in the past. For the Anioma people, it was clearly anyone across the River Niger, while in the SE it seems like it could mean Aboriginal people (based on what u said), it could also mean FOREIGNERS who spoke a similar (Igbo based) language e.t.c Talking about the Ikwerres & Owerres addressing others as Isuoma. I kind of find it uncertain because I don't think Ikwerres call their Igbo speaking neighbors (like Etche, Ogba & Ekpeye) Isuoma. The name seems to be used for people from the SE. I don't think they also call their non Igbo speaking neighbors (like Ijaws & Ogonis) Isuoma. All these things are just very very fluid. Had it been we had very strong ethno-linguistic researchers, historians & anthropologists from Nigeria, they could have done better research on these things. Right now we are working on guesses and the little info we have available. Black Africans are the LIVE AND LET LIVE kind of people. Everyone loved his or her autonomy and so no need for building large ethnic groups. Apart from the Cushitic/Semitic people of Horn Africa who were relatively more civilized and the Bantu tribes who were aggressive expansionists, seeing large Black West African tribes like Yoruba, Hausa & Igbo today was the pure handiwork of the British. Although, Hausas were unified by the fulani caliphate before the British came. Though the identity HAUSA took back seat to ISLAM until the British came. Look at the Mende speaking peoples all over French west Africa. Had it been it was the British who colonized French West Africa, they would have merged all these Mende speaking peoples as one large ethnic group, but the French did not operate that way. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by martjay(m): 1:26pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
mildflame: Well done! Very apt and detailed. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 5:40pm On Mar 29, 2020 |
Mizwisdom:This guy here you are discussing with is half Efik. His father has also grown up in CRS having many lands there. It's only AKS like his family who are half Efik or married to Efik, like this denied Justice Ikpeme that still live in CRS No proud Ibibio is living or begging to live in a dry state as CRS. They other few are there because of their businesses like Hotels, which they have the headquarters in AKS & annexes in Calabar. My aunt who is an Efik from Calabar, but was formerly married to an Ibibio from Uyo. Recently returned from her holiday visit to Nigeria. She told me she was very impressed with AKS development and normally went from Calabar to shop in the big shopping complex in Uyo. She was impressed with the city, traffic & all. It made her not feel much difference as per visiting from USA. She even came back to Lagos using Uyo airport because there was a situation concerning Hamattan wind & weather, affecting the Calabar airport then in January. You should also know that Uyo stadium is the super eagles stadium, like all their qualifying home based games for the worldcup Russia2018 was played there in Uyo. |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 3:19am On May 01, 2020 |
nsiba:Am Ok U never responded to INSULTS on this thread by senatordave https://www.nairaland.com/4110925/ini-edo-rocks-ibibio-traditional/1 |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by nsiba: 3:47am On May 01, 2020 |
ibibiogrl:. OK ....although you already took him to the cleaners Mbok stay safe oh... ibibiogrl I will. .. he has been avoiding me like a plague, he knew what he did and has refused answering his mention by me So Babygirl what is cooking? |
Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 3:55am On May 01, 2020 |
nsiba:Thanks you too be safe I would've liked for you to add yours like you did in the Urhobo man's thread. |
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