Kaycee7:
Nah fam. Batgirl and Batwoman aren't the same. Not the same character, not the same stories, not the same themes. Though I really don't know how they can do a Batgirl movie without introducing her in a Batman movie, first.

It's not as difficult as you think. If they really want to follow plans as I see it, you've probably seen Batgirl already without knowing it.

She's Cassandra Cain the thieving kid you saw in Birds of Prey. So in Birds of Prey sequel she will get character development before fully delving into her Solo.
That's if WB don't have other plans and intend to use the other Batgirls instead; Barbara Gordon or Stephanie Brown. But most likely Babs.

She'll definitely crossover at some point into a Batman movie but the DCEU continuity needs to be sorted first since upcoming The Batman isn't part of the Universe and needs some realignment.

That's were the Flash movie comes in, a reboot with a Flashpoint storyline. thus merging all universe together and retconning any shite they don't like ie Josstice-effing-League, Suicide Squad's annoying Leto's Joker.

WB initial plan was to utilise Batgirl to replace Batman as they wanted to give him a rest, just like Superman. And veer the franchise past those 2 characters alone we've seen countless times.

abduleez1:


It's not as difficult as you think. If they really want to follow plans as I see it, you've probably seen Batgirl already without knowing it.

She's Cassandra Cain the thieving kid you saw in Birds of Prey. So in Birds of Prey sequel she will get character development before fully delving into her Solo.
That's if WB don't have other plans and intend to use the other Batgirls instead; Barbara Gordon or Stephanie Brown. But most likely Babs.

She'll definitely crossover at some point into a Batman movie but the DCEU continuity needs to be sorted first since upcoming The Batman isn't part of the Universe and needs some realignment.

That's were the Flash movie comes in, a reboot with a Flashpoint storyline. thus merging all universe together and retconning any shite they don't like ie Josstice-effing-League, Suicide Squad's annoying Leto's Joker.

WB initial plan was to utilise Batgirl to replace Batman as they wanted to give him a rest, just like Superman. And veer the franchise past those 2 characters alone we've seen countless times.

How you gon' bring a Batgirl to the big screen and it's not Barbara freaking Gordon?

Vivarium (2019);

Great start, anticlimactic ending.

I liked that it tried to do something new, but unfortunately, it overplayed it's hand.

abduleez1:


You funny Sha.

Batwoman and Batgirl are not the same, and are very different. They're also a number of different Batgirl's all with different personalities. The most popular would prolly be Barbara Gordon (she's a fan favourite), while some like Cassandra Cain aka Orphan(she's the thieving kid you saw in Birds of Prey and the most skillfull and ruthless, she's also deemed a better martial artist than the Batman himself. That's why fans hated BOP especially the exclusion of Babs Gordon) and there's also the Blonde one I tend to easily forget her name.

Besides fans love any Batgirl over Batwoman anyday anytime, and she's got lots of fandom.

Any of the Batgirl also has lots of depth and personality devt you'd be captivated by them unlike feminist Batwoman. That's why you can't see her in TV shows, she's an untouchable these days and WB intends to introduce her soon, fans have been waiting a long time for this.

Nah fam. Batgirl and Batwoman aren't the same. Not the same character, not the same stories, not the same themes. Though I really don't know how they can do a Batgirl movie without introducing her in a Batman movie, first.

STFD! So mates, you mean to tell me both characters are not the same, wow!. Funny enough, i thought Batwoman was the adult version of Batgirl or that Batgirl was Batwoman's daughter.

Is there any relationship between Cassandra Cain & Barbara Gordon? they are quite lucky, they have the alternate universe to tell the stories from each of the characters, cause having both characters in the same universe would be confusing as fvck, since they're distinct from each other.

A reboot on the flashpoint storyline would be damn massive, that'd literally mean a different thing all together from the original source material, that's like trashing years of work that never got to see the light of the day down the drain. Rather than reboot, I'd say they use their infinite/alternate universe to merge & create whatever they want.

But again, you're not also wrong, retelling the flashpoint paradox from the beginning isn't such a bad idea, after all its a paradox and as such anything is possible.

To me, i think The Flash is the most powerful DC character ever. Someone who can traverse through time, change reality itself & construct it to suit himself if he pleases. He could prevent the death of Wayne's parents, thus Batman is never born, he could travel through time & vibe through Superman's chest as a kid, he could literary undo every single member of the Justice League and probably a very large percentage of DC characters.

mekaprime:


To me, i think The Flash is the most powerful DC character ever. Someone who can traverse through time, change reality itself & construct it to suit himself if he pleases.

The Flash is quite powerful, but I do not think he comes close to some powerhouse in the DC universe

Nickshrapnel:
The Flash is quite powerful, but I do not think he comes close to some powerhouse in the DC universe

Folks or powerhouse like who, pls indulge me.

Darksider131 okay you can buzz me down so anytime you want to sell you can let me know

Escape from Pretoria

Love this thriller from Daniel Radcliffe.. It was brilliant, entertaining, full of suspense and will sure keep you on the edge of your seat. Although we could have used a bit of character development..But it was still awesome.

7/10

This Wallpaper is pure fire tho...too dope #WW84

alexistaiwo:
Bloodshot


The only shot this movie gave me is drain blood from my head.



Everybody involved in this project deserves to be given a corona shot especially those in charge of sound mixing.

As in..
Person Just dy use Body scatter buildings
WTF

What's the buzz about this movie, Miracle in cell no 7. It's all over Twitter

oyaskii:
This Wallpaper is pure fire tho...too dope #WW84

Can't wait for the movie

Chibudollar:
What's the buzz about this movie, Miracle in cell no 7. It's all over Twitter

Please who has the download link?

mekaprime:



STFD! So mates, you mean to tell me both characters are not the same, wow!. Funny enough, i thought Batwoman was the adult version of Batgirl or that Batgirl was Batwoman's daughter.

Is there any relationship between Cassandra Cain & Barbara Gordon? they are quite lucky, they have the alternate universe to tell the stories from each of the characters, cause having both characters in the same universe would be confusing as fvck, since they're distinct from each other.

A reboot on the flashpoint storyline would be damn massive, that'd literally mean a different thing all together from the original source material, that's like trashing years of work that never got to see the light of the day down the drain. Rather than reboot, I'd say they use their infinite/alternate universe to merge & create whatever they want.

But again, you're not also wrong, retelling the flashpoint paradox from the beginning isn't such a bad idea, after all its a paradox and as such anything is possible.

To me, i think The Flash is the most powerful DC character ever. Someone who can traverse through time, change reality itself & construct it to suit himself if he pleases. He could prevent the death of Wayne's parents, thus Batman is never born, he could travel through time & vibe through Superman's chest as a kid, he could literary undo every single member of the Justice League and probably a very large percentage of DC characters.

Cassandra Cain and Barbara Gordon are all in the same universe just like the Robins (Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Jason Todd and Damien Wayne).

Their time as Batgirl are different though, it's not concurrent, Cass took the mantle after Babs left it vacant when she was paralyzed by Joker in The Killing Joke Storyline. She took it back after fans were clamoring for her return and DC made her recover from her paralysis, then Cass moved to the league of Assassins I think.

Their wouldn't be any trashing of the source material, you would get your Flashpoint story but a bit different, after all it's a story of possibilities. I wouldn't really even like a panel for panel story just like I've seen before in comics. It's as you say it is, giving WB freedom to create or merge or edit whatever they want. That's why it's a soft reboot cos you'd get a different Batman from Affleck and some changes in BvS Josstice League, Suicide Squad storyline etc.

Lol, Flash is not even in top 30 most powerful characters in DC sef even Superman. Heroes yes maybe, but characters overall which encompasses Villain, Hero, Antihero nope.

Characters far powerful than Flash off the top of my head:
Dr Manhattan, Lucifer, Michael Demiurgos, Ellaine Belloc, Dream(Morpheus), Death, Destiny, The Presence, Darkseid, Phantom Stranger, Dr Fate, Mr Mxyzpltk, Reverse Flash, Perpetua, HighFather, Void, Monitor, Anti Monitor. Etc.

Nickshrapnel:
The Flash is quite powerful, but I do not think he comes close to some powerhouse in the DC universe

Lol, he doesn't come close at all. Even tho he's overpowered.

abduleez1:


Cassandra Cain and Barbara Gordon are all in the same universe just like the Robins (Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Jason Todd and Damien Wayne).

Their time as Batgirl are different though, it's not concurrent, Cass took the mantle after Babs left it vacant when she was paralyzed by Joker in The Killing Joke Storyline. She took it back after fans were clamoring for her return and DC made her recover from her paralysis, then Cass moved to the league of Assassins I think.

Their wouldn't be any trashing of the source material, you would get your Flashpoint story but a bit different, after all it's a story of possibilities. I wouldn't really even like a panel for panel story just like I've seen before in comics. It's as you say it is, giving WB freedom to create or merge or edit whatever they want. That's why it's a soft reboot cos you'd get a different Batman from Affleck and some changes in BvS Josstice League, Suicide Squad storyline etc.

Lol, Flash is not even in top 30 most powerful characters in DC sef even Superman. Heroes yes maybe, but characters overall which encompasses Villain, Hero, Antihero nope.

Characters far powerful than Flash off the top of my head:
Dr Manhattan, Lucifer, Michael Demiurgos, Ellaine Belloc, Dream(Morpheus), Death, Destiny, The Presence,Darkseid, Phantom Stranger, Dr Fate, Mr Mxyzpltk, Reverse Flash, Perpetua, HighFather, Void, Monitor, Anti Monitor. Etc.

I agree with you except for Darkseid. The guy dey chop beating wella for DC animation......

Flash can't even change or alter time as he likes and construct it himself as there is always consequences for that. The Time Wraiths will definitely come after him as punishment for changing time.

Barry's attempt to change time and it's outcome to bring his mom back is the main cause of Flashpoint and it's fvvked up timeline.

The Speedster I feel is powerful enough to do most of those shite is Wally West's Flash. Cos he is in tune with the speedforce.

Born2Freak:



I agree with you except for Darkseid. The guy dey chop beating wella for DC animation......

Lol, I know say someone like you go wan talk that thing.

The truth is it's not even actual Darkseid himself they are beating. That's his Avatar with some of his abilities. Still the heroes struggle with an Avatar talk more of the full product.

Darkseid's true form will collapse the plane as he is not from this plane(dimension) or reality. It is said his true form's shadow alone will eclipse the multiverse.

Bloodshot

abduleez1:


Lol, I know say someone like you go wan talk that thing.

The truth is it's not even actual Darkseid himself they are beating. That's his Avatar with some of his abilities. Still the heroes struggle with an Avatar talk more of the full product.

Darkseid's true form will collapse the plane as he is not from this plane(dimension) or reality. It is said his true form's shadow alone will eclipse the multiverse.

Okay. But they went to his planet in the cartoon.

This is what I have been watching since yesterday, I don't get tired of it. As them say make we stay hux, na too dey watch movies lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4_5LRxYDlI

xynerise:
Bloodshot

If you haven't downloaded already, don't bother..

abduleez1:


Cassandra Cain and Barbara Gordon are all in the same universe just like the Robins (Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Jason Todd and Damien Wayne).

Their time as Batgirl are different though, it's not concurrent, Cass took the mantle after Babs left it vacant when she was paralyzed by Joker in The Killing Joke Storyline. She took it back after fans were clamoring for her return and DC made her recover from her paralysis, then Cass moved to the league of Assassins I think.

Their wouldn't be any trashing of the source material, you would get your Flashpoint story but a bit different, after all it's a story of possibilities. I wouldn't really even like a panel for panel story just like I've seen before in comics. It's as you say it is, giving WB freedom to create or merge or edit whatever they want. That's why it's a soft reboot cos you'd get a different Batman from Affleck and some changes in BvS Josstice League, Suicide Squad storyline etc.

Lol, Flash is not even in top 30 most powerful characters in DC sef even Superman. Heroes yes maybe, but characters overall which encompasses Villain, Hero, Antihero nope.

Characters far powerful than Flash off the top of my head:
Dr Manhattan, Lucifer, Michael Demiurgos, Ellaine Belloc, Dream(Morpheus), Death, Destiny, The Presence, Darkseid, Phantom Stranger, Dr Fate, Mr Mxyzpltk, Reverse Flash, Perpetua, HighFather, Void, Monitor, Anti Monitor. Etc.

O boy, see better lecture, i comot cap for you chairman, you suppose get PhD for comic characters analysis.
Firstly, am not arguing with you here nor disputing what you said, am just thinking logically & applying deductive reasoning here.
See why I came up with that assertion or conclusion. Time is the most powerful force in the universe, and Anybody/ Entity that can literally control & bend time to their will is nothing short of a god.

Every action begets a consequence, and if you alter a particular line of action, you get a different consequence.

I don't think the reverse flash is anywhere near the flash, cause if he were, he wouldn't be so obsessed with becoming the flash.

Dr Manhattan before he became what he was, was just a mere mortal. He became what he was, cause he went back for his watch which he forgot, meaning that if he had his watch on him, he wouldn't have had the need to go into the machine, and thus, he doesn't become Manhattan.

Anti Monitor was a creation of the Monitor. If not for the Monitors' quest for knowledge into the unknown, the Anti Monitor wouldn't have been born.

Highfather & Darkseid became what they were because the old gods turned on themselves as a result of the discord & words of lies propagated to em' by Darkseid.....etc

Every superhero you mentioned above, the flash included has an origin/ how the came to be, if the root of their origin can be influenced/changed by the flash, they literally cease to be what they're.


All in all, knowing that speedsters (Barry or Wally) have the power to break time is super freaky scary. Just the fact that at flashpoint, he altered the DC universe is shocking. The flash runs at Trans-time velocity that's a speed of 10^42 times the speed of light. With this speed, he could travel to any time, universe or dimensions & simply rewrite history if he so pleases.

Bratking:
Please can someone tell this guy that there is something called Comic book logic?

Can someone also tell him that you cannot apply common sence and deductive reasoning in comic book universe?

Bratking u r also in this section , u no dey rest

Viking007:
Uncut Gems looks interesting. I'll do justice to it tomorrow.

Get ready to be bored out of your spook.

Born2Freak:


Okay. But they went to his planet in the cartoon.

Yep, still his Avatar.

Even Doomsday don beat am senseless.

mekaprime:


O boy, see better lecture, i comot cap for you chairman, you suppose get PhD for comic characters analysis.
Firstly, am not arguing with you here nor disputing what you said, am just thinking logically & applying deductive reasoning here.
See why I came up with that assertion or conclusion. Time is the most powerful force in the universe, and Anybody/ Entity that can literally control & bend time to their will is nothing short of a god.

Every action begets a consequence, and if you alter a particular line of action, you get a different consequence.

I don't think the reverse flash is anywhere near the flash, cause if he were, he wouldn't be so obsessed with becoming the flash.

Dr Manhattan before he became what he was, was just a mere mortal. He became what he was, cause he went back for his watch which he forgot, meaning that if he had his watch on him, he wouldn't have had the need to go into the machine, and thus, he doesn't become Manhattan.

Anti Monitor was a creation of the Monitor. If not for the Monitors' quest for knowledge into the unknown, the Anti Monitor wouldn't have been born.

Highfather & Darkseid became what they were because the old gods turned on themselves as a result of the discord & words of lies propagated to em' by Darkseid.....etc

Every superhero you mentioned above, the flash included has an origin/ how the came to be, if the root of their origin can be influenced/changed by the flash, they literally cease to be what they're.


All in all, knowing that speedsters (Barry or Wally) have the power to break time is super freaky scary. Just the fact that at flashpoint, he altered the DC universe is shocking. The flash runs at Trans-time velocity that's a speed of 10^42 times the speed of light. With this speed, he could travel to any time, universe or dimensions & simply rewrite history if he so pleases.

Nah, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just helping you understand DC comics workings and characters.

Almost all those characters I mentioned Flash has no power over them and cannot influence them in any way as they are multiversal beings or dimensional beings.

Time isn't really the most powerful force in DC. It will probably be Reality warping, the power to control reality as you want. And maybe matter manipulation. Time doesn't even work on or apply to peeps like Lucifer, Dream, Death, Destiny, Overvoid, Void, The Presence, Monitor or Antimonitor, Darkseid etc. These are peeps who were there even before time existed.

Beings like Lucifer, Darkseid, HighFather, Mr Mxyzpltk and the rest are Multi Dimensional beings meaning they are not from Flash's world and are above him in every way, so his time travel and all that don't even affect them. For example if Darkseid destroy the multiverse and every one in it, it doesn't affect Lucifer cos he's in another plane/dimension higher than Darkseid. Darkseid doesn't even exist in Lucifer's dimension.

Almost all the beings I mentioned there can't be influenced by flash in anyway, except only Prolly Reverse Flash. Don't underestimate Reverse Flash, he's a tid bit powerful than Flash cos he has access to the speedforce and doesn't limit himself to Flash's morality. CW hasn't done any Justice portraying him. I'm not sure of the accuracy of CW monitor and antimonitor creation. I think they were created by the Presence and not that narrative.

Even Dr Manhattan is no match for Flash, he will erase Flash from existence before he even thinks of running, without anyone noticing sef.

It is already asserted the main person behind Flashpoint and erasing some chunk of DC History is Dr Manhattan. He just used Flash to do the work without it pointing out it was him, hence no one suspected anyone other than Flash. Flash isn't that powerful to warp reality sef, just alter some things. But to really create, change reality at will, make it feel so without any consequence at all, that's true power. Not low budget time travel flash does, The king of that time travel sef goes to Manhattan.