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| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 10:05pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
There is no God Anywhere. My own hope in life is To be extremely successful by hardwork, discipline and perseverance. Not gods Grace. There is no God nywhere. 5 Likes |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nephilim: 10:12pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
You are afraid! Fear is of the devil! Isaiah 26:3 it doesn't take God anything to resurrect does that have died since before AD! But He understood all things! So leave your trust to him, He will sort us out in one way or the other GuyWise101: |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Ola17: 10:16pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
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| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Janosky: 10:41pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
GuyWise101:The answers you seek are in your Bible but you have to make out time to study with an open mind.... Q1 1 John 5:19... 2Tim3:1-7.. Matt 24:3-22... Q2 In the Garden of Eden, Satan challenged God's sovereignty, (God's right to rule& make laws to govern Adam/mankind.). Jeremiah 10:23. Note that: Satan didn't tell Eve /Adam that God is powerless. For instance,you're a Mathematics teacher, teaching a class of 40 students.. if one of your students claims that you're not teaching them well,that your maths solving is faulty... What would you do? What if you Banish the Rebellious student out of your class indefinitely ? Would that resolve the issue? Some of his mates may take sides with him, he has created doubts in their minds.... Why not give the rebellious student the benefit of the doubt , allow him access the teaching board to prove to the entire class that his claims are true..... That is the what God has done.... He has allowed the Devil time to prove his claims "is true God said you should do this or that"? If you decide for yourself you will be like God bla bla bla.... Q3 There are principles for prayers to be answered.. Do you follow them? 1.Faith/solid believe- Hebrews11:6.James1:5-7 Isaiah 59:1 2.Humble yourself(humility) 2Chro 7:14-15. Luke 18:10-14. 2 chro33:10-13. 3. Sin/Unrepentance. Isaiah 1:10-18. Isaiah 59:2. 4. Ask. /Pray until something happens 1kings3:5. Matt 7:7,8. Luke 18:1-7. 5. Avoid Showy prayers. Matt6:5-7. Model prayer is a guide Matt 6:9-13. 6. John 14:6 pray in Jesus name. 7. Say "Amen" once. Ephesians 3:14-21 The starting point is pray for forgiveness of sins and any hindrance to your prayers.. Isaiah 44:22. Psalms 51:1-4. BUILD your faith in Jehovah God thru diligent Bible study and prayers.. JWs can help you do so.. Shalom |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 10:47pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
Lessonteacher:I concur. Religion is a scam to me 3 Likes
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| Re: Religion is confusing me. by karo93: 10:52pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
@op Define your question clearly, it will make the journey easier for you. Do you doubt the existence of God OR Do you doubt that the supreme being is love and all powerful. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by karo93: 10:59pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
If you doubt the love and power then the answer is simple; The powers of God on the earth are heavily limited. He doesnt control the earth. The expression of his power is limited by the human vessels. God sent Jonah to Niniveh and he didnt go. God couldnt go by himself so he had to force Jonah. God wanted to send rain in Elijah s time and it was Elijah that prayed and prayed for the rain to come. It once pained God so much that he said; i looked for a man to stand in the gap to pray on behalf of these people but i found none. God is limited by men on this earth......Even the devil is limited so he works with witches n witch doctors and ritualists. Man is the major stakeholder on earth and we alone allow spirits to operate 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by karo93: 11:07pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
If you doubt the existence of the supreme being and the spiritual realm then i can only pray and hope that one day you see and experience the supernatural or scientifically put "para-normal" I haven't seen much but i know enough to know that there is a spiritual realm. So no amount of sophisticated logic and knowledge can convince me that there is no God/spiritual realm. Its not your fault that you havent been convinced I think that beyond teaching and admonishing people to believe, the church should work hard to bring down the supernatural in our churches. Cos if you start experiencing paranormal activities in ur church you cant doubt God/the spiritual...... 1 Like |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by karo93: 11:10pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
If the logic of my statements above makes sense to you then you can pose other questions that confuse you and i will answer as much as i can. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Samunique(m): 11:29pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
GuyWise101:Your real problem is your mind set not God ! |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by odinson1(m): 12:53am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Their major excuse for why prayers don't get answerd is....Lack of Faith 1 Like
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| Re: Religion is confusing me. by kingxsamz(m): 12:55am On Mar 31, 2020 |
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| Re: Religion is confusing me. by TPound(m): 5:06am On Mar 31, 2020 |
karo93: True |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Reality11: 5:14am On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101: Op don't stop asking questions!!! Think and reason, scrutinize all you were taught or made to believe. Ask yourself does it add up? You were told not to question your religious beliefs the bible or God. Only lies is afraid of questions. Its just the Indoctrination being passed from generation to generations which is what makes religion and the belief in God going. There is no single proof. It is obvious that it was man made. To many inconsistencies, contradictions, absurd ideas and has noting to do with reality. You posted why you have doubts no one came with tangible explanation or reasonable answer, this should speak volume to you. Your brain is not for decoration. Only you can save yourself. 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Image123(m): 6:37am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Eeyah, a confused lying masturbated sissy sinner is confused yet again. So what should we do about this one now? This one too would claim Christian while he's just an initially hellbound every day sinner like every other atheist. Confused lots. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by jesmond3945: 7:16am On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101:i need to address you bro on some of the misconceptions we have about God. I am sorry to say this what we practice in Nigeria is religion and God is very far from us. The bible made mention of it" that we worship God with our lips but our heart is far from Him". You see when you have a personal relationship with Christ you would only care about what you can do for Him and not the other way round. Now if you are sick you need a doctor, it is even written in the bible. You cannot stay at home and be praying for healing. Yes healing will come when God desires and it might not even come. The problem with Nigerian christians is that we have soaked so much of false hope christianity and it is now affecting us. Imagine people saying God should heal corona when the corona was man made and was even transmitted by men against that advise of the authority. Infact corona is as a result of man's disobedience and feeling of invicibility. They want God to perform magic not knowing God only cares about your soul and you making heaven. Many Nigerian pastors if they dont repent will not smell heaven because they have misled a lot of people. In summary just love God, go to hospital, eat well, sleep well, take your medication and you would recover. For corrupt politicians, it is an African thing and this is because of bad western leaders urging them on. Once you refuse their bidding they come after you. However, we are all the same. An avergae african man cannot handle power. it always corrupts them but that doesnt mean God does not allow them. Afterall I saw in the news where people lined up in guinea to vote in refrendum for their leader to stay in power for another 12 years. Are you saying God should perform magic so that the man would die? |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by malvisguy212: 7:41am On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101:I don't think you read the bible very well, did God say He will destroy Satan? If yes, when and how? Is suffering God fault? A God of love wants the whole world to operate in love, but could you force someone to love you? The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much . James 5:16 what do you understand in this verse? If God eradicated everyone who has ever caused pain by selfishness, cheating, lying, gossiping or hurtful remarks, who would be left? We are so far from being innocent that we owe our very existence to sin. If, for example, we traced our family tree far enough, we would probably each find an ancestor born as a result of sin - rape, unlawful incest, a despised pregnancy, sex before marriage, and the like. Humanity can boast only one perfect Person. We killed him. 1 Like |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Businext: 8:05am On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101: Guywise I commend you that you speak out because there are people around the world whose faith have been shaken but are too timid to voice it out. God Himself wants us to come talk with Him, He says in Isaiah, come let's reason together... He patiently allowed Job talk, talk, talk ooooo till He decided to speak to Job. Guywise, if you truly ever believed in God, now is the time to stay strong and rekindle your faith. This is the time your faith was prepared for. It's now we would separate wheat from chaff. It's now we know those who have been picking and choosing from God's Word. It's now we see those who read, believed and appreciated the challenges of Job, Elijah, Naomi, Stephen, Paul, Joseph, David, and our Lord and Saviour Jesus. Who do you know that did not suffer? Any suffering in the name of God is for a time. 2 Corinthians 4:8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 4:9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight  5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Focus on your eternal race Guywise. Don't let the setbacks of this world doubt God Who made you. If you will only believe God if you are chilling on a yacht, sipping lemonade, basking in the sun, cross legged, listening to serenades then that God is not the one Who created heaven and earth. He created us for His praise and glory, for His pleasure. His will goes beyond any fancy picture the world paints. Do you remember those people you know who were living in sin, those yahoo boys, armed robbers, slay queens who used to oppress the sensibilities of many with their lavish lifestyles, I don't care attitude and vain boasting? Many are dead, assassinated, living on anti-retroviral drugs, hiding from creditors, homeless, broke, on FBI/EFCC watch list, are walking and constantly looking back, afraid of even the sound of rat, are struggling with effects of bleaching and skin cancer, can't hold a steady job, house or relationship, no peace! Many of the people I've seen living in Christ, though poor in terms of money are living happy, free, hopefully, in faith, in peace, content and sleep with doors wide open (no fear of snake, mosquito or thieves) Follow this link and sing along https://www.nairaland.com/5765584/covid19-pandemic-let-spirit-rekindled #YouOnlyLiveOnce #IfYouLiveRightOnceIsEnough |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Primesky(m): 2:20pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101: Sir, it's tough living in the world today. Everything around may seem to work against you, and the worst of all is the feeling that God doesn't exist afterall, but that's the biggest lie from the pit of hell. Please, don't let the the current situation destroy your faith in God, because more terrible things may happen soon. It's part of the package sin brought. God made the heavens and all the unseen and unknown realms, He also made man, but gave man charge and control to rule the earth. A right man lost to the devil. That's where everything went wrong. But Jesus Christ restored it to man upon genuine repentance and acceptance of Him. But know this, God will not do anything against man's will because He gave man that right and power and it's to last for a specific period of time, but before that, man is absolutely in charge of his choices. Observe that anytime God wants to do anything on earth , He does so through man, Jesus had to be born a man, flesh first before he can carryout His work. That is also why,you don't see spirits working around physically, they possess a body to function here it's a man's world by the authority and power God gave to Him. And God does not usurp it simply because He's the almighty. However, whatever we (humans) do with this authority has consequences, and that's what we're seeing. Infcat if not for the grace of God, man would have been wiped out of planet earth. How?. The God who made you and me also made slot of other things, the land, water, wind, sun, moon, stars, bacteria, viruses, lightening and thunder angels and spirits etc some of them may seem inanimate to us humans but they hear and see. Remember Jesus taking about how stones could shout out in praise if man doesn't do it?. Now, some of these creations are with us and we interact with them. When we (men) insult, disobey and take the almighty God for granted,you cannot imagine the rage and anger it evokes in them. Do you think the earth will still allow you stand on it if you say the one who made it does not exist like the etheist do? or do you think the angels will just fold their hands and watch men insult God their king and maker and not take a fiersome action?. But God restrains them, so that man could have ample time to repent. But the longer it takes and man fails to repent the more dangerous it becomes, the very nature itself will act against man, if we push God aside, what then is our hope?. Do you know that despite the fact that Satan has fallen, he still respects and fears God and does not cross his boundaries, because if he does, there will be no hiding place for him. There are things the devil inspires men to do, which he himself will never attempt, isn't that dangerous for man?. As for why didn't God destroy the devil immediately he sinned. The verdict has been passed on Lucifer now Satan and his co-travelers and no changing or going back on that sentence. However, the final judgement is time bound and the time interval serves a far more important purpose to the glory of God and punishment of the devil. The time affords all of creation to see the cruelty and wickedness of Satan and his agents and also pass their sentence. Their opinion is not needed but it is a fair trial. That's why the devil has convinced some people (satanist, occultic) to defend him today, they're the satanist, but their verdict is void and useless. God also did not give man over to the devil, man had authority over him to play him like football as part of his humiliation, if only you know what humiliation it is for man to cast out the devil. It's like an ant telling an elephant get out, and the elephant will have no choice but to obey, but by lies and trickery, the devil took over man's authority and is now using it against him. And no one will get such an advantage and would want to loose it without a fight. That's why we, humanity, Christians in particular are in tough battle of life, but for God's help and grace, we wouldn't be alive. Take heart bro, God exist and he still very much care for you. The end will more than compensate for our pain. He promised to wipe away every tear from out eyes. It's well with you. Shalom. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 3:26pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Vince77: Yeah..... That's where I a placed him ...... I don't believe in the way he is described..... I believe there's a supreme being.... Many Christians are like this but fear is what is holding them 1 Like |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 5:05pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
hahn: When you read a Bible passage that makes you feel somehow, try asking all those who claims to believe in God, NOT just one or two, neither read and think on the verse alone. Pray for help so that God can send someone having discernment to help you out! Proverbs 2:1-5 God has made a lot of promises but how on Earth am i supposed to rely on such promises with all these evil things that's happening as if he can't handle it?  Isaiah 45:7 is telling me that both good and evil is all under his control, be it an evil spirit, armed rubber or a serial killer, JEHOVAH created everything. So nothing as in NOTHING can stop him from fulfilling his promises! Psalms 37:7-11 That's the import of the Bible passage! |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 5:46pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101: You've come to meet people who already have the same feeling like you do and that is thoughtful but UNWISE! There are thousands of religions on this planet and all of them claims they're worshipers of an unseen being "GOD". First of all a wise person will ask Who is God? What is the proof that he really exist? Why different religions having contradicting opinions when talking about God? Why so much evil and suffering? Even good people do suffer evil and die helplessly, so what is God doing? OK where are my dead loved ones? What is happening to them now? Only God can answer all these questions, therefore he must have revealed the secret to his TRUE worshipers, otherwise he can't possibly expect me to worship him if those questions remain unanswered! The point is Most people don't feel like asking these questions, so far they've not been effected. Their false religious teachers makes them believe they're some kind of special people God has favoured so they don't have any business with people suffering other than just to give such ones peanuts wherever they notice them Well that's how stupid, selfish, prideful and self-centered idiots do think until it's their turn to taste the other side of life. That's when they now remember that God should come and solve their own problem without delay, but when they were seeing others in the same condition, faithless fools went dancing in their shrines called Church saying they're praising their so called partial God, who just feel like showing them special favour while others suffer! Well, this is where most of them end up! They'll become ATHEISTS but their wicked hearts will continue to hunt them everyday, because they feel like "i need to see this God face to face and deal ruthlessly with him, for betraying me"!  So they'll continue to protest as if everyone should join them in their protest against God! But when they were like enjoying watching others suffer, they feel it's OK. Well let me just tell you that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, whoever has seen him in action need not as about how God feels in certain situations! When people die, Jesus feel really bad. Even there was a time Jesus burst into tears out of empathy for those grieving for the dead of their loved ones! John 11:35 So get your facts well, God is never happy when people die. It brings him no glory! |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Stephenmoka4(m): 6:38pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Please do not accuse the devil all the time.
Coronavirus do affect the physical nature of man as it's consider a
somewhat natural attribute (diseases)
Children or not children of God, there are other natural things
that have been happening and can tamper with the physical
e.g, flood, earthquake, volcanic eruption. You don't expect a
man to throw a stick to a pride of lions and wave to them
expecting the lions to applaud him. An innocent child fell
from a tower and what do you think will happen. There are
cases where Jesus nearly got attacked but, he left for safety.
The physical nature of man needs to be taken care of,
coronavirus can't affect you spiritually.
Man is blessed with certain amount of wisdom and
knowledge to work on his nature.
In conclusion diseases can affect any mortal man where
Christian, Muslim or others. Diseases of various kind existed
long ago. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Depsui(m): 6:42pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
GuyWise101: You prayed to God no healing. Will you get healed now that you don't believe in God? |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by hahn(m): 12:44am On Apr 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: Lol. Then why bother praying against evil? If god will do whatever it wants and it's will is perfect why bother praying? 3 Likes |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by bbdof: 6:31am On Apr 01, 2020 |
This is not the time to give up on God. The world is coming to an end that's y all these are happening. They have to happen. Just make your ways straight, take as many people as you can with you to heaven. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 7:40am On Apr 01, 2020 |
hahn: The evil we are to pray against shouldn't be misconstrued for selfish reasons! Note that the same Jesus who taught his followers to pray saying "do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one(Satan)" {Matthew 6:13} is the person who told the same set of people "do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul" {Matthew 10:28} adding "whoever is so anxious about saving his life will loose it, but whoever looses his life for my sake will find it" {Matthew 10:39} So what is the balance view of this teaching? Satan is a rebellious angel powerful enough to do anything but have no control over integrity keepers, meaning this wicked spirit knows for sure that no matter what he does with people's body(which could eventually lead to their death) will become meaningless if such a person still keeps his integrity! WHY? Jehovah promised integrity keepers a resurrection and Satan has witnessed him does this several times in the past, so it's clear to Satan that death of the body doesn't mean the end of integrity keepers! Satan is no more working on destroying people's body since God can easily retrieve that, Satan is now struggling really tough to kill people's conscience for them to trash anything called integrity. In that way God himself will detest the individual and forget him/her in the grave when he remembers integrity keepers! So Jesus is telling us to pray to Jehovah for assistance by means of his holy spirit to protect NOT our body (as any selfish mortal man would think) but in helping us to keep our integrity to the end, so that even if we loose our life now (which none of us have the ability to secure) our integrity is kept safely for God to remember us! Note how Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego responded to Nebuchadnezzar "Our God has the power to protect us (if he chooses to) but even if he decides to leave us in your hands, we will not bow to your image" {Daniel 3:16-18} so were they expecting any miracles? NO! Note Job's response when his agony reached it's peak "Please remember me when your anger (brought upon us by our first parents) have passed, if an able bodied man due, can he still live again? I will wait patiently (in my grave) until all this wicked system of things have passed, you will call, i will answer you, you will not forget your precious INTEGRITY KEEPERS in the grave" {Job 14:13-15} so was he expecting a easy way out? NO! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES aren't afraid to die, what we fear most is loosing our integrity, because that's the only visa to Paradise! Note the conversation between two hardened criminals, try and meditate on how integrity keeping got one of this criminals a Visa to Paradise! Luke 23:-43 So even if we choose to be 100% anxious of our life now, neither you nor i can add a single second to it when death comes unexpectedly! Luke 12:25 Thanks for your time! |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by frank317: 7:53am On Apr 01, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Why u de vex? Are u God's PA. Common prove to him that God exists, u can't, instead u are busy throwing tantrum here and there as if God is ur friend that u eat together with everyday. The fact is that God is an imagination in ur head and that imagination is attached to ur Ego, hence whenever the imagination is criticized, somehow ur Ego is being attacked and it hurts u... U are sick and needs a deliberate attempt to make u see that God is just an imagination and u need to detach it from ur ego. This is the same reason we have terrorists. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by lepasharon(f): 11:42am On Apr 01, 2020 |
bbdof: You think this is the first pandemic the world has had ? Did the world end then? 1 Like |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by kingxsamz(m): 11:52am On Apr 01, 2020 |
Businext: You have not even given him any tangible reason or explanation why he should believe in God or have faith in your religion. |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by kingxsamz(m): 12:01pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: yeah, he's shedding tears of joy.He loves seeing people suffer that's why he doesn't intervene. You claim he feels bad when people die, but yet he does nothing about it. It's just like when my phone falls into water, instead of me to take it out to prevent further damage, I'll just stand there crying. Oga, you've made no point or reason why the Op should consider your God. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Religion is confusing me. by Nobody: 12:38pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
kingxsamz: He made his appeal case through the pages of the Bible, so each of us stands as an observer while these two persons present their case. Jehovah is presenting his own case through nature, Bible and his Witnesses. Satan is also presenting his own case through disrupting the peace in our society, causing lots of untimely deaths of innocent people and his human direct and indirect agents in our midst! So if someone decides to take God's side, that doesn't necessarily mean he/she is indebted to anyone in advocating for God's sovereignty. That's why Jesus specifically asked his own followers to search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel meaning those who already feel like knowing what is going on and what will be the end of all these? But if your mind is made up already to find a solution to the problem on your own we are not obligated to carry your pain for you, so suit yourself! |
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