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GamalNasser:
It's time we address claims by Buharist clowns that because Nigeria has recorded just 2 death and 155 infections because of Buharis good leadership , this is huge lie and we will put an end to it today !!.

My first question I ask is can zombies tell us what the Buhari govt has done well so the Americans can emulate him and learn , the truth is Buhari has done nothing infact pound for pound his performance in this Covid crisis is one of the worst pro rata.

Why does Nigeria actually have lower numbers :

1 : Traveller inflow : in the first two months of 2020 America had already received over 58 million international travellers while Nigeria recieved about 485 thousand passengers , from this statistics you can see America has received over 100 times more people than Nigeria so is more likely to have imported more infected people but when we take the percentage of infect ion per mille we fine out that America has 0.02% per mille while Nigeria has 0.03% per mille which means Nigeria imported more infections per thousand at 155 confirmed cases today and if I go further and use the wild estimations that some 5000 infections might be runnings wild it the brings Nigeria imported infection per mille to over 1% which is a lot

2: Number of test carried out ; another reason why Nigeria seems to be spotting far lower numbers is due to the low number of testing don't compared to America.. America has tested over 135 thousand people while Nigeria as at today has just test slightly over 200 meaning while America is testing over 300 people per a million of it's population Nigeria is test just 2 people per million so Nigeria is likely to see fewer cases .

3 : Low Transmission and lethality ; Another reason why the rates are low in Nigeria is that for some reason the virus has a slower or weaker rate of transmission and lethality in Nigeria and this might be due to a lot of factors like weather , humidity , genetic make up , diet and most probable to me the absence of any active 5g signal above 24Ghz ( this is for smarter folks so average folks can stand down please )

4 Lack of adequate data base requisite for contact tracing : many contacts have not been traced due to poor address systems and inadequate data base of contact thereby making the issue of contact tracing more difficult and making the numbers of confirmed cases lower .

5 : Self Medication : Nigeria is well known for self medication and data seems to suggest that many patients with similar symptoms as COVID has chosen to knock it off as common flu and self medicated their way out of it with the support of their youthful immunity ( twitter is filled with such stories )

6: Youthful population : Nigeria due it's high ratio of youthful population with Youthful immunity might be acting as a stumbling block to the person to person transmission rate in the country as most youth have the capacity ward off COVID infections without even throwing symptoms .

Gentlemen with these few points I hope you can see that there is nothing special the government of Buhari is doing to stem this crisis instead the the Buhari govt has contributed more to escalating it to where it is today in Nigeria with their reckless behaviour of late travel restrictions till their kids got back home and Federal govt aide even going as far as importing infections and spreading it within govt circle ...I must not fail to commend the stellar leadership in this crisis of the Lagos State govt because they set parameters and template for tackling this which other state Govts have quickly mirrored and which has greatly help but as for the Buhari govt I don't see a single special standout thing they did infact they where late to to the table and only came after Lagos had taken the initiative to bear the index case at it's own risk and initiative

idealogical:
The new goal post. The OP was right about you wailers, you say one thing and after getting corners with facts, you run around the corner and co,me up with another rubbish.

Your come back story doesn't alter the stats and realities, this is the problem with you wailers, you don't know anything and you won't read or do basic research, you just wail and wail needlessly.

BTW, you can not tell us how grave the situation is because we know and we've been dealing with it successfully since day one, our first case was successfully isolated, quarantined, treated and discharged.

Your negative spirit doesn't align facts and realities on the ground, just find something else to wail and lose sleep over.

Tomjazzy2:
Good to read the points you raised. Now, I'll can only attempt to, based on those raised alone, make you understand how we've only been fooling ourselves.



Your first point was on how body temperature was being checked at the airports, before our first recorded case.

Please, kindly school me on how effective temperature check is, in detecting a possible corona virus carrier. While you're at it, kindly explain again how the index case got through the check at the airport.

What's the incubation period of this virus?

As an alternative to the temperature check, wouldn't it have been wise if we had subjected those coming from other countries, especially from the flash points, to some sort of self isolation and monitoring, as it's the current practice?



On your second point, you'll have to understand that we can not ignore the fact that the more test we carry out, the higher the confirmed cased could rise (God forbid). The more confirmed cases we record, the more it will stretch our ill-equiped isolation units and medical centers. The more pressure we put on the system, the higher the likelihood of having more casualties (again, God forbid).

It's well known that the best way to beat this is by carrying out massive testing of residents. How many testing centers do we have in the country currently? What's the cost of setting up one? Why couldn't we set up as many as possible before our index case? Proactive?


The last point you raised, again, slow testing facilities, like I pointed out above, could be responsible for it. Otherwise, why the steady increase in numbers of confirmed case?


Lastly, I can only appeal to everyone that irrespective of our partisan interests, we should all rise up and speak up so as to make the people in authority to realize why government was created in the first place. Let's stop celebrating mediocrity.

An Italian contractor who flew into Nigeria from Milan became sub-Saharan Africa’s first confirmed coronavirus patient on Friday, stoking concern that an outbreak on the continent could overwhelm already strained health care systems.

The patient, a young man, had no symptoms when he landed this week in Lagos, traveled 60 miles north to the cement factory where he works and developed a fever there, a Nigerian health commissioner said to reporters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/africa/nigeria-coronavirus.html

SmartyPants:
I know you think you are doing me. You are doing yourself o.

idealogical:
I know you think you are doing Nigeria with your lies and hatred, but you are doing yourself.

Nigerian government is the reason why you and your family are not infected, sick or dead already.

SmartyPants:
Continue my son.

idealogical:
I'm not your son, God forbid.

Adakintroy2:
There is no "we" anything this not french class. You and your northern pirates and the quasi intellectual INEC man contrived to removed him.

Tribal fagots. Dagote is building refinery now in Lagos. he is a northern man.

So now the northern man hold the highest to lowest commodity in the land..from hausa grandnut to petroleum oil. How you like it now.

idealogical:
For any fever or any negative temp reading to be detected, you fist have to be symptomatic, the Italian man was had no symptoms.

SmartyPants:
I say continue.

PassingShot:
I have read a lot of wailing and criticism about the FG’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic since it arrived in Nigeria on Feb 25th. The most recent was reactions to a thread comparing Nigeria’s handling of the crisis to that of UK. Expectedly but sadly, a lot of ignorant commenters were dancing albeit nakedly based on the newspaper’s report which didn’t even say that the UK is handling the pandemic better than Nigeria.

If any unbiased person wants to make any comparison about govts handling of the pandemic, their objective analysis will include parameters such as each govt’s efforts before COVID arrived at their shores (very important), each govt’s immediate response as soon as COVID arrived in their country, number of infected persons (confirmed) and lastly and most importantly, the number of deaths recorded as a result of the pandemic. But since many Nigerians have allowed their common sense to be affected by prejudice and hatred, they have abandoned these relevant parameters in making evaluating the govt’s response to the crisis. Now let’s quickly look at the following facts:

1. Measures taken by the Nigerian Govt before a COVID case was discovered in Nigeria: Long before the pandemic found its way into Nigeria, the FG embarked on monitoring body temperature of people flying into the country to be able to discover who may have showed any signs of the disease. By this time and despite that the disease was at their shores, USA, UK, Iran and many other “saner clime” countries were not even taking this measure. Dr. joe Abah did a thread on it and the World Health Organization commended Nigeria for this measure and going as far as using Nigeria as an example of how countries should respond to the pandemic. Read https://twitter.com/drjoeabah/status/1233989553008119809?lang=en for Dr. Joe’s Twitter thread and https://guardian.ng/news/coronavirus-who-commends-fgs-effort-on-response/ for WHO’s commendation.

2. Number of cases recorded in Nigeria versus that of UK or any other “saner country”: As at the time of writing this article (01/04/2010 @12 noon Naija time), the UK has 25,150 confirmed cases and 1,789 deaths; the USA has 188,639 cases and 4,059 deaths; Iran has 47,593 cases and 3,036 deaths, Italy has 105,792 cases and 12,428 deaths while many other “saner countries” have similar gloomy numbers to show for their efforts. Nigeria on the other hand has recorded 139 cases and 2 deaths. I expect some readers to jump on the fact that Nigeria is not testing as much as the mentioned countries, but the fact remains that while that may be responsible for the low number of confirmed cases, it couldn’t have been responsible for low number of deaths. Not carrying out enough testing would not have prevented people from being struck down by the disease or people dying as a result of it.

3. Another indication that Nigeria’s govt is doing her best in containing the spread of the virus can be seen when one compares the time the country’s first case was discovered to when those of the “saner countries” were discovered and juxtapose with the number of confirmed cases and deaths. Italy had her first case around January 31st, 2020 (two months ago), Spain had its first on Feb. 1st and Italy had it on Feb 21st which was only four days earlier than when Nigeria had hers on Feb 25th. Compare the number of deaths/confirmed cases of these countries and see if you have not been unreasonable in your criticism of the government.

The problem with wailers and destructive critics is that they always shift the goalposts. As such, you can never have any reasonable conversation with them. When the first case was reported in Nigeria, lead by their frustrated Wailer-in-Chief, they said it was a scam to be used to loot money. And when few more cases were confirmed some days after, they turned back to say the govt should have closed the bother long ago! Such is their pathetic life!

Ask them which country Nigeria should have emulated in containing the disease, those of them who still have a bit of sense will stutter because they would not dare say USA, UK, Italy or Germany but the chronic wailers who have obviously lost it all will still compare how Nigeria is managing the spread of the disease to the same UK which has lost almost two thousands of her people to the disease.

Does Nigeria have the facilities or the means to combat the COVID19 pandemic? The answer is a resounding NO. Does the country have a robust health system compared to those “saner countries”? Again, the answer is an emphatic No? Do we have enough money to deploy to tackle any outbreak in the size of that witnessed in UK, Italy, USA or Germany? The answer is an obvious NO. But the fact is that the state of our health system or the size of our purse wasn’t brought about by the current government but a result of many years of failure. So, why wailing uncontrollably instead of supporting the govt’s efforts at preventing the spread of the disease?

Had it been Buhari who reacted the way Trump and Boris Johnson first reacted to the COVID19 outbreak – by dismissing it and making all sorts of joke of it, or just like Seyi Makinde (your “presidential material”) who called it an APC disease, perhaps you would have possibly reacted in such a bad manner. There should be a limit to wailing!

Have a nice day.

thegloor:
Why did you stylishly avoid the number of tests carried out?

idealogical:
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Instead of lying all over the place and peddling false and bogus info because you hate Nigeria, this is what we want you to peddle if you really care about Nigeria.

#Takeresponsibility.

Itemmanu:
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Gibberish

Oche211:
Good...
Actually, hatred has blinded so many people to reality.
Personally, my only issues with the FG was the fact that they failed to close our airports earlier than they did.
At the moment, it will be useless comparing naija style of handling the pandemic with that of other countries. We are better Biko.
USA and Europe is overwhelmed.
We should thank God and commend our officials especially the doctors.
They have been awesome.
This isn't the time for sentiment or hate filled ranting like most wailers do.

Roon9:
Please just shut up! We are protected by God himself. This government has been but irresponsible and silly in the way they handling this pandemic. A lot of us Nigerians the virus has died in our body. Two weeks ago I was at Opay's office at Ikeja. A particular Chinese dude was just coughing up and down without face mask

Coronavirus UK death toll surges to 2,352 after 563 killed in last 24 hours


The UK's coronavirus death toll has surged again, rising by a record 563 in the past 24 hours to a total of 2,352.

Today's figures include people who died in hospitals, but not those who passed away in their homes without being officially diagnosed with Covid-19.

idealogical:
But you and your family are still not infected, not sick or dead? The government is obviously doing something right by protecting you, your family and the rest of Nigeria.

Be grateful instead of being hateful.

Ayoefa:
Dumb mofo,

When did the US started doing ANYTHING about coronavirus? Definitely not before Nigeria. I came to Nigeria at the end of February and there was NOTHING in terms of preparation and precautions at the US airports when was leaving. Nigerian on the other hand were already screening passengers coming in to the country.
Your dumb ass animal must have inherited your stupidity from your father's DNA.
Omo ale ni awon Baba n la Baba e.
STFU and get lost. Done responding to a complete douch bag like you that is devoid of any intelligence.

Roon9:
Lols! I see what you doing there. Well they can have the right shar

Basher8583:
Na dat one dey pain you. Wait till we take over the spare parts business too.

ArisingStorm:
Wait till Saturday, and see confusion that is about to erupt in the country due to poor management.

Itemmanu:
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[s]Gibberish

helinues:
Are you guys not creative enough to counter this?

Must you always be aggressive?

imhotep:
APCheat minions everywhere

Cc metaphysical johnmartus

mvem:
oga I will quote you...you wish people will die, don't be surprised we might record only 5 deaths throughout the pandemic...you people keep on wishing bad so that it fits your narrative... Cases will definitely rise for it is obvious carriers are more than the confirmed cases but the bone of contention is the deaths...we won't record deaths like Europe or America

imhotep:
APCheat minions everywhere
Cc metaphysical johnmartus

PassingShot:
I have read a lot of wailing and criticism about the FG’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic since it arrived in Nigeria on Feb 25th. The most recent was reactions to a thread comparing Nigeria’s handling of the crisis to that of UK. Expectedly but sadly, a lot of ignorant commenters were dancing albeit nakedly based on the newspaper’s report which didn’t even say that the UK is handling the pandemic better than Nigeria.

If any unbiased person wants to make any comparison about govts handling of the pandemic, their objective analysis will include parameters such as each govt’s efforts before COVID arrived at their shores (very important), each govt’s immediate response as soon as COVID arrived in their country, number of infected persons (confirmed) and lastly and most importantly, the number of deaths recorded as a result of the pandemic. But since many Nigerians have allowed their common sense to be affected by prejudice and hatred, they have abandoned these relevant parameters in making evaluating the govt’s response to the crisis. Now let’s quickly look at the following facts:

1. Measures taken by the Nigerian Govt before a COVID case was discovered in Nigeria: Long before the pandemic found its way into Nigeria, the FG embarked on monitoring body temperature of people flying into the country to be able to discover who may have showed any signs of the disease. By this time and despite that the disease was at their shores, USA, UK, Iran and many other “saner clime” countries were not even taking this measure. Dr. joe Abah did a thread on it and the World Health Organization commended Nigeria for this measure and going as far as using Nigeria as an example of how countries should respond to the pandemic. Read https://twitter.com/drjoeabah/status/1233989553008119809?lang=en for Dr. Joe’s Twitter thread and https://guardian.ng/news/coronavirus-who-commends-fgs-effort-on-response/ for WHO’s commendation.

2. Number of cases recorded in Nigeria versus that of UK or any other “saner country”: As at the time of writing this article (01/04/2010 @12 noon Naija time), the UK has 25,150 confirmed cases and 1,789 deaths; the USA has 188,639 cases and 4,059 deaths; Iran has 47,593 cases and 3,036 deaths, Italy has 105,792 cases and 12,428 deaths while many other “saner countries” have similar gloomy numbers to show for their efforts. Nigeria on the other hand has recorded 139 cases and 2 deaths. I expect some readers to jump on the fact that Nigeria is not testing as much as the mentioned countries, but the fact remains that while that may be responsible for the low number of confirmed cases, it couldn’t have been responsible for low number of deaths. Not carrying out enough testing would not have prevented people from being struck down by the disease or people dying as a result of it.

3. Another indication that Nigeria’s govt is doing her best in containing the spread of the virus can be seen when one compares the time the country’s first case was discovered to when those of the “saner countries” were discovered and juxtapose with the number of confirmed cases and deaths. Italy had her first case around January 31st, 2020 (two months ago), Spain had its first on Feb. 1st and Italy had it on Feb 21st which was only four days earlier than when Nigeria had hers on Feb 25th. Compare the number of deaths/confirmed cases of these countries and see if you have not been unreasonable in your criticism of the government.

The problem with wailers and destructive critics is that they always shift the goalposts. As such, you can never have any reasonable conversation with them. When the first case was reported in Nigeria, lead by their frustrated Wailer-in-Chief, they said it was a scam to be used to loot money. And when few more cases were confirmed some days after, they turned back to say the govt should have closed the bother long ago! Such is their pathetic life!

Ask them which country Nigeria should have emulated in containing the disease, those of them who still have a bit of sense will stutter because they would not dare say USA, UK, Italy or Germany but the chronic wailers who have obviously lost it all will still compare how Nigeria is managing the spread of the disease to the same UK which has lost almost two thousands of her people to the disease.

Does Nigeria have the facilities or the means to combat the COVID19 pandemic? The answer is a resounding NO. Does the country have a robust health system compared to those “saner countries”? Again, the answer is an emphatic No? Do we have enough money to deploy to tackle any outbreak in the size of that witnessed in UK, Italy, USA or Germany? The answer is an obvious NO. But the fact is that the state of our health system or the size of our purse wasn’t brought about by the current government but a result of many years of failure. So, why wailing uncontrollably instead of supporting the govt’s efforts at preventing the spread of the disease?

Had it been Buhari who reacted the way Trump and Boris Johnson first reacted to the COVID19 outbreak – by dismissing it and making all sorts of joke of it, or just like Seyi Makinde (your “presidential material”) who called it an APC disease, perhaps you would have possibly reacted in such a bad manner. There should be a limit to wailing!

Have a nice day.

MetaPhysical:
[s]Hey Imhotep
Thats Kanu leading Biafrans off the cliff edge. Imagine thats Biafran flag and not APC.

Ipob Kwenu!! ;[/s]D