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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 12:11pm On Apr 03, 2020
wirinet:

I have never in my entire life seen a more incompetent administrator or manager than Donald J Trump. He had bungled every responsibility he had ever been called upon to undertake. He does not know how to take responsibility for anything, but quick to take credit for the efforts of others.
He bankrupt all his own businesses. His response to the coronavirus was the worst in the whole world.
I pray God bring him back as president come November, then we will see the fastest fall of any superpower the world had ever seen.
Is it not the same Trump that has been supporting other states that are managing the coronavirus crises well? He has even given New York more support than any other states so what's the problem with New York? Other governors are doing a tremendous job with what they got but New York that have received the highest is still blundering from pillar to post. You liberals are very hypocritical, you're praising Governor Cuomo who is directly overseeing and responsible for the New York crises, you're even talking him as a presidential material but you want to lay the blame on Trump in Washington? Is this not the height of hypocrisy that the person who is directly responsible is being hailed by you all but the person who's constitutional role is to provide support to the state is being blamed for the disastrous clusterfuck happening in the state? The clowns running New York should get their acts together and sort this mess out

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:49pm On Apr 03, 2020
Goldmaxx:
I think Seun should create a dislike or downvote button.
I think Oga Seun should demand a sanity test before allowing people to register. I read some real crazy shit on nairaland, some of the craziest conspiracy theories I have ever heard. From someone staking his life that the earth is flat to the Trump guys that believes everyone that dislikes or criticise Trump is evil and should be stoned to death. These same people are usually the ones that critical of Obama or Buhari the most, not minding that even till today Obama is more popular than Trump. Barack Obama today is the most followed person on twitter with over 114 million followers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitter_accounts


No one is saying the media shouldn't exist but they should report accurately and quote correctly. Not being dishonest.

Who should determine which reports are accurate? Fox news or Trump? How come 90% of US and international media including BBC are inaccurate, but only fox news and alt right wing media. Even fox news is sometimes criticised by Trump and you guys.


when the media are openly biased and partisan then it's becomes a problem for the people.
So the media has only started being bias, they were not bias during Obama or past administrations? They are not bias in other democracies. The media like other human endeavours is subject to personal and group biases, but it does not remove from the accuracy off their reports. As I said earlier Trump want to hear only news praising him, he better abolish the first amendment and impose media censorship like China, North Korea or Russia.


Have you ever seen trump call them out for exactly reporting what he said? They spin his words in order to satisfy their radical left base. New York times was caught changing their headline 3 fücking times just to satisfy Pelosi and her leftists dumbKrats.
You said headlines and not the subject of the report. All media house play around with headlines to attract maximum attention.
If the report is false, why not let's fact check the report.


People have lost faith in the media. They deserve every ounce of spite and tantrum designated towards them by Trump.
Trump never had faith in the media. The love -hate relationship with the media is decades old. His supporters only recently entered the fray. So it's you people that have just recently lost faith with the media. The vast majority of people still have faith in the media.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:58pm On Apr 03, 2020
garetz:

Is it not the same Trump that has been supporting other states that are managing the coronavirus crises well? He has even given New York more support than any other states so what's the problem with New York? Other governors are doing a tremendous job with what they got but New York that have received the highest is still blundering from pillar to post. You liberals are very hypocritical, you're praising Governor Cuomo who is directly overseeing and responsible for the New York crises, you're even talking him as a presidential material but you want to lay the blame on Trump in Washington? Is this not the height of hypocrisy that the person who is directly responsible is being hailed by you all but the person who's constitutional role is to provide support to the state is being blamed for the disastrous clusterfuck happening in the state? The clowns running New York should get their acts together and sort this mess out
So what responsibility does Trump have? He was not responsible for Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurrucane Maria, Trump is not responsible for handling a devastating pandemic in the US, so what is he responsible for exactly? I thought he said the US is at war and so is a war president? Maybe the Governors are the ones that handles wars in the US? If Hawaii is attacked today, maybe Trump will say it's the Governors responsibility to respond.

You same people would put all the blame in Nigeria on Buhari and not your governors.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Hyperchi(m): 1:49pm On Apr 03, 2020
wirinet:

So what responsibility does Trump have? He was not responsible for Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurrucane Maria, Trump is not responsible for handling a devastating pandemic in the US, so what is he responsible for exactly? I thought he said the US is at war and so is a war president? Maybe the Governors are the ones that handles wars in the US? If Hawaii is attacked today, maybe Trump will say it's the Governors responsibility to respond.

You same people would put all the blame in Nigeria on Buhari and not your governors.

I think this guy has dust brain, for not reading news headlines very well but claiming to be well informed, read about the action of the president on Puerto Rico issue and go through the Governor action, u will see the same thing they did In new York , hording job

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:21pm On Apr 03, 2020
basilico:


As soon as the corona is contained level headed people will never buy anything chinese made knowingly.
There must be no level headed people because, not only will most buy China, they'll borrow money from China to buy China.


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/04/01/blackburn-china-should-waive-some-of-our-debt-they-have-made-a-global-pandemic-worse/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20200402&utm_content=Final

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goldmaxx(f): 5:25pm On Apr 03, 2020
wirinet:

I think Oga Seun should demand a sanity test before allowing people to register. I read some real crazy shit on nairaland, some of the craziest conspiracy theories I have ever heard.From someone staking his life that the earth is flat to the Trump guys that believes everyone that dislikes or criticise Trump is evil and should be stoned to death. These same people are usually the ones that critical of Obama or Buhari the most, not minding that even till today Obama is more popular than Trump. Barack Obama today is the most followed person on twitter with over 114 million followers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitter_accounts
Bla bla bla... Nobody is against criticizing Trump but making false statements is tantamount to defamation. You mean the same libtards that turned a blind eye to GAYbama's government of bungling and corruption, inept policies and mismanagement? Rush Limbaugh said that republicans were careful not to oppose GAYbama or his policies so as not to appear racists.

Libtards are just retàrds and self centered entities, if Trump deserves to be stoned to death then GAYbama and KILLary crooked Clinton should have their body chopped off, harvested and fed to the vultures for crimes committed against humanity.

I thought you guys insinuated that social media popularity doesn't equate to popularity in reality? Remember GAYbama has been in the political scene for more than 15 years before Trump. GAYbama presented himself as a saint and globalist. Adding to being the leader of the most powerful country in the world. Instead he was exposed as a fraud and con man. But trump came out thug-style, not a pretender devoid of political correctness and being real. I expect his popularity to dwindle but instead it skyrocketed. There's no absolute yardstick to measure their popularity.
Lest I forget, Trump is still in his first tenure. Let's compare their twitter followers after 2024.

wirinet:
Who should determine which reports are accurate? Fox news or Trump? How come 90% of US and international media including BBC are inaccurate, but only fox news and alt right wing media. Even fox news is sometimes criticised by Trump and you guys.
you forgot that the same set of media always on trump's matter were the same set that endorsed KILLary crooked Clinton and she invited them for dinner night but they all lost it when she lost hence the bitterness and vendetta. BBC is the left wing equivalent of CNN in Britain. They are awful losers also, having predicted that the people will vote to stay in the brexit Saga. They are pained that Trump took the support of Nigel Farage, their worst nemesis that led Britain out of shitty EU. They also predicted that Trump would lose badly and will never be president of USA. So they are US leftist media partner in crime. Fox is not a complete right leaning media outlet. They employ both liberal and conservative journalists but you can't see that in MSNBC or CNN, NBC, ABC etc at least like Fox News does.

wirinet:

So the media has only started being bias, they were not bias during Obama or past administrations? They are not bias in other democracies. The media like other human endeavours is subject to personal and group biases, but it does not remove from the accuracy off their reports. As I said earlier Trump want to hear only news praising him, he better abolish the first amendment and impose media censorship like China, North Korea or Russia.
GAYbama committed high crimes and misdemeanor, he and his allies toppled a foreign government because of their oil, how is that different from what Bush did? The media turned blind eye when swine flu killed up to 18,000 Americans and infected more than a whopping 60 million more after GAYbama reacted sluggishly. How did they cover that?


wirinet:

You said headlines and not the subject of the report. All media house play around with headlines to attract maximum attention.
If the report is false, why not let's fact check the report.
you are a typical dumbKrat. You don't know headlines serves as a referral to the message body?
Do you know how many times, the media like Washington Post, New York times etc has apologized for false information against Trump? Google is your friend. They intentionally publish false and fake news to satisfy their radical left. Due to some past presidents never cared owing to their personalities doesn't mean Trump should follow them in ignorance. They attack trump for doing nothing other than winning an election in democracy. They are so full of hatred.


wirinet:

Trump never had faith in the media. The love -hate relationship with the media is decades old. His supporters only recently entered the fray. So it's you people that have just recently lost faith with the media. The vast majority of people still have faith in the media.
That's a fat lie, trump was the host of the apprentice show for about 7 years and he was a well known media personality all over America. Even rappers dropped lines with his name. He even appeared on home alone. People wrote books about him. He's a contributor on Ellen show, morning Joe etc. Has a star in Hollywood walk of fame. Owner of miss universe and Miss USA. Trump is a media star. Immediately he declared for president, he became an enemy.

Another lie, survey suggest more than 65 percent of the people have lost faith in the media since trump exposed them. Do your research!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 6:35pm On Apr 03, 2020
Did someone just say “Republicans were careful not to oppose Obama and his policies”??
Where were they when Mitch McConnell and his band in the Senate obstructed nearly every policy proposal from Obama and Congressional Democrats? Heck, Leader McConnell even held up a SUPREME COURT nomination indefinitely!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:58pm On Apr 03, 2020

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:44pm On Apr 03, 2020
The moronic Democrat governor of Nevada has also reversed his stupid decision to ban the use of chloroquine for coronavirus care just like his equally moronic Democrat colleague from Michigan. The two idiots are now requesting for shipments of Chloroquine. TDS can make these fools reject a cure for AIDS if Trump endorsed it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:44pm On Apr 03, 2020
BTW, Chloroquine has now being declared as the most effective drug in the fight against coronavirus. A survey of doctors opinions from over thirty different countries showed chloroquine as the drug with the highest number of endorsement by the doctors. Some dolts will rather have thousands more die instead of them to accept that Trump was right. The same foolish Dems who criticized Trump for touting chloroquine are no where to be found now that their own Democrat governors are now turning to the same chloroquine. You won't hear a word about it from the hypocrites.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/

https://m.theepochtimes.com/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-for-ccp-virus-by-doctors-in-global-survey_3297097.html/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:14pm On Apr 03, 2020
FACT: America is tirelessly trying to combat a global pandemic
Democrats: Let's start an investigation and further divide Americans
ME: Why am I surprised at this point? grin shocked grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:51am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BTW, Chloroquine has now being declared as the most effective drug in the fight against coronavirus. A survey of doctors opinions from over thirty different countries showed chloroquine as the drug with the highest number of endorsement by the doctors. Some dolts will rather have thousands more die instead of them to accept that Trump was right. The same foolish Dems who criticized Trump for touting chloroquine are no where to be found now that their own Democrat governors are now turning to the same chloroquine. You won't hear a word about it from the hypocrites.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/

https://m.theepochtimes.com/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-for-ccp-virus-by-doctors-in-global-survey_3297097.html/
Cc:
Ornicus
Wirinet

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:44am On Apr 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:

Cc:
Ornicus
Wirinet

You are quoting Washingtontimes, a right wing rag?
Did you miss the deaths on the FP?
Your miracle drug is working in Lala land

I have gone through it, and it is not listing actual numbers of survivors. You think if choloroquine actually lowered the curve trump would not be out shouting about it, instead of saying 100,000 deaths is not a bad thing?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:47am On Apr 04, 2020
obixcel:
FACT: America is tirelessly trying to combat a global pandemic
Democrats: Let's start an investigation and further divide Americans
ME: Why am I surprised at this point? grin shocked grin

Why should you be surprised? If it was Hillary Clinton in office, what would the republicans have done? Or is it only lives in Libyan embassies that matter?

The illiterate in the White House ignored security briefings in January that could have staved this off

Republicans read the briefings, continued his nothing to see here lines, and sold off stock. Republican stock portfolios matter.

American dem governors are trying to stave off debts, while republican governors are just getting out of denial, is that not a fact?

Jared kushner is telling us that the federal stockpile is federal property, not so? And trump is being as useless as ever, expecting people to kiss the ring before they get help.

When your hero trump is attending to the matter by yapping about his Facebook numbers, and appointing Jared kushner as a resource for this crisis?

Trump is accusing hospital workers of stealing supplies, talking foolishness about New York not needing that many ventilators and is busy pissing off everyone locally and internationally.

This is on him. It is burnt down, just like he promised,and Americans are now winning in death. What happens when you put a reality tv clown in office. He cannot out bully or out tweet this. His bs cannot work with the stark numbers in front of him. This is what James coney warned about. If them born Americans well, let them vote him in again. The next crisis will be an even greater shambles of incompetence in the face of the thank force

The wave is coming for the red states now, the proudly ignorant floor licking bumpkins. Let’s see how they enjoy meaningless word salad tv rallies when they are the ones dying

This is on him. Now that the economy has tanked and jobs are gone, we will see if he is a real businessman or just an mealy mouthed self-servicer

I have always celebrated Steve Jobs for building apple TWICE. Now let’s see trump really rebuild an economy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:07am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BTW, Chloroquine has now being declared as the most effective drug in the fight against coronavirus. A survey of doctors opinions from over thirty different countries showed chloroquine as the drug with the highest number of endorsement by the doctors. Some dolts will rather have thousands more die instead of them to accept that Trump was right. The same foolish Dems who criticized Trump for touting chloroquine are no where to be found now that their own Democrat governors are now turning to the same chloroquine. You won't hear a word about it from the hypocrites.
Clowns. Who declared chloroquine as "the most effective drug?" Did you read to read the reports at all? It's all just speculations that Trump's people are pushing as a cure according to the revelation received by Trump.



https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/
The headline of this report says it all


Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective [color=#99000] therapy'[/color] by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.


The survey also found that the most commonly prescribed treatments are analgesics (56%), azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%).

Azithromycin, known by the brand name Zithromax or Z-Pak, was rated the second-most effective therapy at 32%, followed by “nothing,” analgesics (including acetaminophen), anti-HIV drugs and cough medicine.


The headline says therapy; what does that tell you? That it's not a cure. Then is most effective therapy is from a survey of some doctors, meaning from the opinion of some doctors (probably Republican doctors ). Science do not work on opinions of anyone, it works by presenting verifiable data confirming your tests and trials, and explaining the reasons behind it. Many doctors in Nigeria will opine that "agbo" is the best therapy for lots of illnesses.

37% of 6227 physicians think that hydroxychloroquine is the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

From the survey, the most commonly prescribed drug was analgesics ( paracetamol - 56%), then azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%). From this survey even "nothing" (paracetamol) was rated the 3rd most effective in the treatment of coronavirus.

As I said earlier, the flu industry is a huge scam. Pharmaceuticals make billions selling useless drugs purporting to cure the common Cold. It's your natural immunity that can fight the flu virus itself - no other drugs. This coronavirus does not significantly affect about 80% of those infected, about 20% requires hospitalisation ,while 2 - 4% on average will not survive it. If chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or any other drug has been tested to significantly alter this statistics, let me know.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 5:37am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


Why should you be surprised? If it was Hillary Clinton in office, what would the republicans have done? Or is it only lives in Libyan embassies that matter?

If it was Hillary Clinton, the Republicans would not let us hear word for the next 10 years. The Republicans hammered on Benghazi debacle for 2 full years. Till today, they still hammer on Emails after 2 years of investigations.
If Obama was this incompetent, I am sure the Republicans would have declared a civil war.


The illiterate in the White House ignored security briefings in January that could have staved this off

Republicans read the briefings, continued his nothing to see here lines, and sold off stock. Republican stock portfolios matter.

Imagine, the intelligence agencies warned Trump and his Republican senators early january about an incoming pandemic, what did Trump and his Republican friends do? They quickly sold of their stocks and bought medical stocks, and did nothing, waiting for the pandemic to hit.
When the pandemic finally hit, they blame the Democrats and even Obama for the pandemic and the resulting deaths.




American dem governors are trying to stave off debts, while republican governors are just getting out of denial, is that not a fact?

Jared kushner is telling us that the federal stockpile is federal property, not so? And trump is being as useless as ever, expecting people to kiss the ring before they get help.

Imagine putting Jared Kushner in charge of managing the pandemic. Kushner a spoilt kid like Trump himself is now in charge of US foreign policy and domestic policy. And you wonder why they are celebrating an expected 200,000 deaths.

He is the Abba Kyari of US.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:26am On Apr 04, 2020
obixcel:
FACT: America is tirelessly trying to combat a global pandemic
Democrats: Let's start an investigation and further divide Americans
ME: Why am I surprised at this point? grin shocked grin

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/hunter-biden-senate-probe-162118

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
Republicans and their emails 2.0.
Jobless useless jokers.
They will all ramp this up as the trump house of cards comes crashing down.

The only way some of them are sure of not going to prison( Martha Stewart did) is to ensure trump and his crooked William Barr remain in power.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:40am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/hunter-biden-senate-probe-162118

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
Republicans and their emails 2.0.
Jobless useless jokers.
They will all ramp this up as the trump house of cards comes crashing down.

The only way some of them are sure of not going to prison( Martha Stewart did) is to ensure trump and his crooked William Barr remain in power.
How's senile Biden doing? Haha I mean, the one who's going to beat Trump, abi?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:29am On Apr 04, 2020
wirinet:

Clowns. Who declared chloroquine as "the most effective drug?" Did you read to read the reports at all? It's all just speculations that Trump's people are pushing as a cure according to the revelation received by Trump.


The headline of this report says it all


The headline says therapy; what does that tell you? That it's not a cure. Then is most effective therapy is from a survey of some doctors, meaning from the opinion of some doctors (probably Republican doctors ). Science do not work on opinions of anyone, it works by presenting verifiable data confirming your tests and trials, and explaining the reasons behind it. Many doctors in Nigeria will opine that "agbo" is the best therapy for lots of illnesses.

37% of 6227 physicians think that hydroxychloroquine is the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

From the survey, the most commonly prescribed drug was analgesics ( paracetamol - 56%), then azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%). From this survey even "nothing" (paracetamol) was rated the 3rd most effective in the treatment of coronavirus.

As I said earlier, the flu industry is a huge scam. Pharmaceuticals make billions selling useless drugs purporting to cure the common Cold. It's your natural immunity that can fight the flu virus itself - no other drugs. This coronavirus does not significantly affect about 80% of those infected, about 20% requires hospitalisation ,while 2 - 4% on average will not survive it. If chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or any other drug has been tested to significantly alter this statistics, let me know.
You're the one that is a big clown suffering from ignorance and English comprehension problems.

1. Therapy means treatment to relieve or cure a disease. They are synonyms that can be used interchangeably so all those argument you made about use of the word therapy instead of cure is total nonsense!!

2. For you to be insinuating that this report was published by Trump's people just shows how ignorant you are. Sermo is a worldwide forum of doctors in over 150 countries in the world, a big majority of them are not even Americans. Common sense should have told you to checkout the organization doing the survey before accusing them of being Trump stooges.

3. You said the doctors surveyed were probably Republicans? From over thirty different countries In how many countries does the Republican party exist for God's sake?

4. Science doesn't work on people's opinions right? But the people whose opinions were published in that survey happen to be professionals in medical sciences. More than that, they are experts on fighting viral infections, the very people we should be listening to at this time.

5. It seems you can't differentiate between most prescribed and most effective. Most prescribed means the one that has been prescribed most by doctors while most effective means the one that has been most effective in the treatment of coronavirus infections. I am shocked I have to break this simple thing down for you. And please the "nothing" in the report was not referring to paracetamol. It means some doctors recommended giving no drugs at all to the patient hence their opinion was represented by the word "nothing" undecided. The report is saying "nothing" was rated the third best therapy followed by analgesics in fourth, anti - HIV drugs in fifth e.t.c

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:39am On Apr 04, 2020
wirinet:

If it was Hillary Clinton, the Republicans would not let us hear word for the next 10 years. The Republicans hammered on Benghazi debacle for 2 full years. Till today, they still hammer on Emails after 2 years of investigations.
If Obama was this incompetent, I am sure the Republicans would have declared a civil war.


Imagine, the intelligence agencies warned Trump and his Republican senators early january about an incoming pandemic, what did Trump and his Republican friends do? They quickly sold of their stocks and bought medical stocks, and did nothing, waiting for the pandemic to hit.
When the pandemic finally hit, they blame the Democrats and even Obama for the pandemic and the resulting deaths.


Imagine putting Jared Kushner in charge of managing the pandemic. Kushner a spoilt kid like Trump himself is now in charge of US foreign policy and domestic policy. And you wonder why they are celebrating an expected 200,000 deaths.

He is the Abba Kyari of US.

You're a pathetic liar!!! Can you show us where Trump sold off any stocks after being informed of an incoming pandemic? Some congressmen and women both Republican and Democrats sold off stocks and they all claimed to not be directly involved in managing their stocks and you're here saying Trump and his friends. Can you point to one single stock Trump sold? When Trump heard about the pandemic and decided to ban travel from China as far back as January, what did your foolish democratic party leaders do? They accused him of racism!! When he banned travel from Europe, they said it won't be effective and accused him of being high handed. Today the same pack of degenerate clowns are accusing him of not acting fast enough. Ridiculous!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:51am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


You are quoting Washingtontimes, a right wing rag?
Did you miss the deaths on the FP?
Your miracle drug is working in Lala land

I have gone through it, and it is not listing actual numbers of survivors. You think if choloroquine actually lowered the curve trump would not be out shouting about it, instead of saying 100,000 deaths is not a bad thing?
Unfortunately for you, your left-wing fake news media refuse to carry any positive news on the battle against coronavirus so you have to make do with the responsible right wing media. As for the survey report, you don't have to believe it because of the Washington times, the story is all over medical and science based journals but your fake news liberal propagandists media refused to even make mention of it.
Here's a link to one:

https://techstartups.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-is-the-most-effective-therapy-for-coronavirus-treatment-a-global-survey-of-over-6000-doctors-shows/

And this is the link directly to sermo, the global medical doctors forum that carried out the survey but you have to register first to access the report:

https://www.sermo.com

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:05am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

Unfortunately for you, your left-wing fake news media refuse to carry any positive news on the battle against coronavirus so you have to make do with the responsible right wing media. As for the survey report, you don't have to believe it because of the Washington times, the story is all over medical and science based journals but your fake news liberal propagandists media refused to even make mention of it.
Here's a link to one:

https://techstartups.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-is-the-most-effective-therapy-for-coronavirus-treatment-a-global-survey-of-over-6000-doctors-shows/

And this is the link directly to sermo, the global medical doctors forum that carried out the survey but you have to register first to access the report:

https://www.sermo.com

The one thousand people who died must have somehow missed this miracle cocktail. What were those figures you were throwing around? 65/80?

Can your responsible right wing rags actually show us the survivors?

See how right wing wankers are suddenly interested in medical studies cheesy

Wonders

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:18am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

You're a pathetic liar!!! Can you show us where Trump sold off any stocks after being informed of an incoming pandemic? Some congressmen and women both Republican and Democrats sold off stocks and they all claimed to not be directly involved in managing their stocks and you're here saying Trump and his friends. Can you point to one single stock Trump sold? When Trump heard about the pandemic and decided to ban all travel from China as far back as January, what did your foolish democratic party leaders do? They accused him of racism!! When he banned travel from Europe, they said it won't be effective and accused him of being high handed. Today the same pack of degenerate clowns are accusing of not acting fast enough. Ridiculous!!!

You dummy, you are hailing trump for doing the only thing he knows a travel ban. A situation that calls for a multi pronged approach, your fool in the White House did only one ineffectual thing ( travel bans don’t work) and you like a low information bumpkin, are celebrating him for that?

Are you still in wild denial of all his denials two months prior?

Were trumps republican senators who were privy to the intelligence reports not echoing him in public while selling off in private?

That is your precious Republican Party. They will let idiots like you die so they can get rich. Survival of the richest while the stupid hicks die

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:22am On Apr 04, 2020
obixcel:
How's senile Biden doing? Haha I mean, the one who's going to beat Trump, abi?

So why are you lot so desperate to continue with your standard candidate smearing investigation in the middle of a national emergency?

Is it that your are (to quote you,) that evil and divisive, or maybe you are all that scared that this could be the end of trumps circus train, after which the reckoning will come?

Anyway, trump is the super businessman ( of scripted reality tv) He inherited a failed economy, a mess and he rebuilt it, not so? All those jobs jobs jobs. He has an opportunity to do it again cheesy. I am sure he will do it even better than Obama ever did.

Hopefully he won’t do what he did 4 times previously, declare the us bankrupt and declare victory

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:28am On Apr 04, 2020
Meanwhile

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/trump-immigrant-workers-coronavirus-162177



The Trump administration is still soliciting immigrants for specific jobs despite droves of Americans filing for unemployment.

It is urging medical professionals to contact a U.S. embassy to move their application process along, cognizant of the coronavirus pandemic sweeping America.

It is easing requirements for immigrants to get jobs as farm workers, landscapers and crab pickers, aware that industries, including those that fill grocery store shelves, could be hurt if they couldn’t hire foreign employees.
And until facing criticism this week, it had been moving ahead with a 35,000-person increase in the number of seasonal workers in part for expected job openings at resorts and golf courses after the pandemic releases its grip on the economy.

Activists are irate that Trump hasn’t backed down more. But business leaders say it’s needed to stabilize a cratering economy.

Indeed, Trump faces immense pressure to prop up the economy — both during and after the coronavirus outbreak. And he’s adopting an approach the business community has long pushed: Recruit workers for perennially empty jobs, even if they’re not American workers. Business leaders say that even during the coronavirus crisis, foreign workers are critical to companies that might be unable to find enough unemployed Americans willing to take certain jobs, especially if those people can collect more money via jobless benefits.

Oh how the stack of bullshit is falling. This administration is suddenly looking for those job stealing disease carrying immigrants to save a crumbling economy. Who would have thought that a nation built by immigrants would need immigrants?

Are there not enough white people to work in those fields?

Resorts and golf courses cheesy
I wonder how many have been earmarked for maralago?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:31am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


The one thousand people who died must have somehow missed this miracle cocktail. What were those figures you were throwing around? 65/80?

Can your responsible right wing rags actually show us the survivors?

See how right wing wankers are suddenly interested in medical studies cheesy

Wonders
Left wing wankers have never been known to be smart, the 78 out of 80 successful treatment rate was from a trial conducted in France by a medical doctor. This is easily verifiable from French news sites. I and others have already posted links on this forum to personal testimonies of successful use of chloroquine in treatment of coronavirus but you're still asking for the survivors how many days later? It seems with people like you, information flies in one ear and flies out the other in a jiffy, nothing is retained in the memory sad. The death toll will continue to rise because effective drugs like chloroquine are not being widely used by doctors in the US to combat the virus and this is because of the resistance and scaremongering by the media and liberal fools. If you truly believe that chloroquine is not effective for coronavirus treatment then you must also admit that your democrat governors who are now requesting for it in large quantities must be really stupid for doing so.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:35am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

Left wing wankers have never been known to be smart, the 78 out of 80 successful treatment rate was from a trial conducted in France by a medical doctor. This is easily verifiable from French news sites. I and others have already posted links on this forum to personal testimonies of successful use of chloroquine in treatment of coronavirus but you're still asking for the survivors how many days later? It seems with people like you, information flies in one ear and flies out the other in a jiffy, nothing is retained in the memory sad. The death toll will continue to rise because effective drugs like chloroquine are not being widely used by doctors in the US to combat the virus and this is because of the resistance and scaremongering by the media and liberal fools. If you truly believe that chloroquine is not effective for coronavirus treatment then you must also admit that your democrat governors who are now requesting for it in large quantities must be really stupid for doing so.

You actually think if this cocktail actually worked and was not just a desperate pipe dream we would not be seeing the results?

The virus is about to hit the red states. Let them drink chloroquine morning noon and night. Maybe if we are lucky one of the Fox News talking heads will catch it and show us one on one how effective chloroquine is
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:41am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


You dummy, you are hailing trump for doing the only thing he knows a travel ban. A situation that calls for a multi pronged approach, your fool in the White House did only one ineffectual thing ( travel bans don’t work) and you like a low information bumpkin, are celebrating him for that?

Are you still in wild denial of all his denials two months prior?

Were trumps republican senators who were privy to the intelligence reports not echoing him in public while selling off in private?

That is your precious Republican Party. They will let idiots like you die so they can get rich. Survival of the richest while the stupid hicks die
You're the one who is a dummy full of liberal drivel. Oh, so you admit Trump banned travel from China in January in response to the coronavirus threat? So why come here to lie that Trump ignored and did nothing about intelligence briefings on coronavirus? That you disagree with his approach is your own cup of tea but don't you ever come here to lie that Trump ignored the briefings and did nothing about it. You are not only a low info bumpkin, you are also a hypocritical bumpkin!! Why do you keep mentioning Republican congressmen sold stocks while conveniently leaving out that Democrats did the same? Finally, Trump has never denied the coronavirus threat, he simply gave assessment reports that were true at that time. As at the time of his saying them, the US was safe and had very minimal coronavirus cases. That the situation has since changed doesn't make his proclamation at the time false

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:46am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


You actually think if this cocktail actually worked out and was not just a desperate pipe dream we would not be seeing the results?

The virus is about to hit the red states. Let them drink chloroquine morning noon and night. Maybe if we are lucky one of the Fox News talking heads will catch it and show us one on one how effective chloroquine is
The results are already been seen among those that are using it, the success rate is very high. Unfortunately most people are not using it and that's because of liberal propaganda and scaremongering. As for the virus hitting red states, I am not worried, I am confident that red state governors will do a great job containing the pandemic unlike their incompetent and Moronic Democrat colleagues

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:52am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

You're the one who is a dummy full of liberal drivel. Oh, so you admit Trump banned travel from China in January in response to the coronavirus threat? So why come here to lie that Trump ignored and did nothing about intelligence briefings on coronavirus? That you disagree with his approach is your own cup of tea but don't you ever come here to lie that Trump ignored the briefings and did nothing about it. You are not only a low info bumpkin, you are also a hypocritical bumpkin!! Why do you keep mentioning Republican congressmen sold stocks while conveniently leaving out that Democrats did the same? Finally, Trump has never denied the coronavirus threat, he simply gave assessment reports that were true at that time. As at the time of his saying them, the US was safe and had very minimal coronavirus cases. That the situation has since changed doesn't make his proclamation at the time false

For an uneducated lout like yourself, a travel ban answers all things.

The travel ban was a reactive and empty response. The sort of thing trumps base of illiterates ( people like yourself ) would celebrate as effective leadership

Did trump deploy the CDC to start testing people?
Did trump link up with The Who to develop a test kit?
Did he start the process of stockpiling medical supplies

Before the Lagos lockdown, I had already started buying food supplies because I could see it coming.

I see illiterates avoiding Chinese.

If you think you can celebrate trump for getting 1/5, that is the standard for you yokels. The deaths and crisis should be enough to tell you how much of a failure that strategy is. And the success of the Koreans, Taiwanese , Chinese is right in your face.

But you jokers can continue chasing empty travel ban and unproven medicine.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:54am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

The results are already been seen among those that are using it, the success rate is very high. Unfortunately most people are not using it and that's because of liberal propaganda and scaremongering. As for the virus hitting red states, I am not worried, I am confident that red state governors will do a great job containing the pandemic unlike their incompetent and Moronic Democrat colleagues

Those ones that could not even enforce lockdown? Those ones their trump supporter hicks who are as dumb as you and as psychotic as wowcat? Those ones , unfortunately will be textbook cases. I hope trump sha sends them the chloroquine stockpile like did with Florida.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:58am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


For an uneducated lout like yourself, a travel ban answers all things.

The travel ban was a reactive and empty response. The sort of thing trumps base of illiterates ( people like yourself ) would celebrate as effective leadership

Did trump deploy the CDC to start testing people?
Did trump link up with The Who to develop a test kit?
Did he start the process of stockpiling medical supplies

Before the Lagos lockdown, I had already started buying food supplies because I could see it coming.

I see illiterates avoiding Chinese.

If you think you can celebrate trump for getting 1/5, that is the standard for you yokels. The deaths and crisis should be enough to tell you how much of a failure that strategy is. And the success of the Koreans, Taiwanese , Chinese is right in your face.

But you jokers can continue chasing empty travel ban and unproven medicine.
Firstly you're the one who is an educated lout and a joker.

Secondly, whatever opinion you have about Trump's decision to ban travel from China is your business, my own is that you shouldn't come here to spread lies that Trump ignored and did nothing about the intelligence briefings. You are not talking to your fellow low info, liberal ignoramuses on this forum. You can't even see how pathetic you sound jumping from saying he did nothing to now arguing that he did something but you don't agree with it.

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