₦airaland Forum

chibjohn:
You can never be too sure. Viruses behave weirdly. They are in-between living and non living things. When they are attached to living cells, they start acting as a living thing but when attached to non-living surfaces they become inactive for a length of time depending on the virus before dieing off.

So, even professionals haven't fully understood this virus let alone me and you. Let's just follow their instructions and not all these unsubstantiated temperature analysis .

chibjohn:
You can never be too sure. Viruses behave weirdly. They are in-between living and non living things. When they are attached to living cells, they start acting as a living thing but when attached to non-living surfaces they become inactive for a length of time depending on the virus before dieing off.

So, even professionals haven't fully understood this virus let alone me and you. Let's just follow their instructions and not all these unsubstantiated temperature analysis.

GAZZUZZ:
Very correct, we are doing 38-40deg this morning

989900:
Room temperatures are going to be of course much lower.

Stay safe.

GAZZUZZ:
correct, but dry air, not humid like in the south.

Seun:
Effect Of Temperature On COVID-19: An Unscientific Investigation.

In the early days of the Coronavirus scourge, many Nigerians believed that we wouldn't be affected because of our hot weather. Now that we're testing people, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of confirmed cases, to about 220, which is still very low for a country with 190 million residents. However many people suspect that the virus has penetrated our society far more deeply than the NCDC statistics suggest. We've noticed that people who travelled to colder countries recently or spend most of their time in air-conditioned spaces, or their direct contacts, are massively over-represented among the confirmed cases. Is this because they are the only ones being tested, or is heat a factor?

Here is the list of the 10 countries that have the highest number of active COVID-19 cases, and their forecasted temperatures for the day:
* USA has 257,790 active cases. The temperature forecast for New York is 8°C - 15°C.
* Italy has 85,388 active cases. The temperature forecast for Rome is 7°C - 25°C.
* Spain has 77,488 active cases. The temperature forecast for Madrid is 6°C - 19°C
* Germany has 65,309 active cases. The temperature forecast for Berlin is 1°C - 12°C
* France has 61,650 active cases. The temperature forecast for Paris is 6°C - 17°C
* UK has 34,428 active cases. The temperature forecast for London is 4°C - 16°C
* Iran has 31,954 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tehran is 8°C - 19°C
* Turkey has 20,012 active cases. The temperature forecast for Istanbul is 8°C - 11°C
* Switzerland has 14,169 active cases. The temperature forecast for Geneva is 3°C - 17°C
* Netherlands has 13,986 active cases. The temperature forecast for Amsterdam is 4°C - 14°C

On average, the top ten countries with Coronavirus have a temperature forecast of 5.5 - 16.5°C. The temperature forecast for Lagos is 26°C - 34°C, and for Abuja, it's 24°C - 36°C. This is a massive, massive difference! The maximum temperature of nine of the countries above is lower than the minimum temperature of Lagos. The maximum temperature of 7 of those countries is lower than the minimum thermostat setting of most Nigerian air-conditioners (18°C).

The countries mentioned above are in Africa, Asia or Europe. What about Africa? Here's our top 5:
* South Africa has 1,401 active cases. The temperature forecast for Johannesburg is 9°C - 15°C.
* Algeria has 1,004 active cases. The temperature forecast for Algiers is 9°C - 17°C.
* Egypt has 703 active cases. The temperature forecast for Cairo is 24°C - 34°C.¹
* Tunisia has 472 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tunis is 8°C - 17°C.
* Burkina Faso has 236 active cases. The temperature forecast for Ouagadougou is 28°C - 43°C. ^1
1 The Egypt data is misleading because the their average temperature last month was 11.6°C to 26°C, but Burkina Faso is a legitimate outlier; the country is much hotter than Nigeria.

The above data, in spite of the outlier, is enough to convince me that the Coronavirus likes cold weather and probably spreads faster in cold places, such as air-conditioned cars, offices, and homes. This, apart from the lack of testing, may explain why we are yet to see any significant evidence of transmission outside the circles of travellers and the rich and powerful in Nigeria. It is consistent with what we know about other respiratory illnesses, and why countries like the US expect the disease to slow down in their summer season (starting from June).

When I see videos of Lagos officials spraying open areas e.g. roads & sidewalks in Lagos, I have to laugh, because I strongly suspect that, if they actually bothered to test for the presence of the virus on those surfaces, they'd find nothing at all because the sun already sterilized them.

Knowing that the virus hates our hot temperature gives me hope. If a cold country like South Korea (0°C -13°C forecast for today) could beat the virus without destroying their economy by imposing a total lockdown, a constantly hot country like Nigeria could do much better if we used the same tactics. We need to start testing people who have had close contact with confirmed cases before they show symptoms. We also need to enforce universal wearing of face-masks and social distancing everywhere, which in itself may even be sufficient to end the virus.

May your days be bright and hot. May your air-conditioners be off and your windows wide open (to get rid of aerosolized droplets). Cheers.

PS: I always make a lot of mistakes when I post long articles, so if you spot any errors, omissions, or false statements, please correct me.

Seun:
Effect Of Temperature On COVID-19: An Unscientific Investigation.



PS: I always make a lot of mistakes when I post long articles, so if you spot any errors, omissions, or false statements, please correct me.

Bonjovi13:
Very educative Suen.
The only thing I would add to your post is that Nigerians should make masks for themselves and wear if they need to go outside for supplies especially in a mall or shop as there is evidence of the chances of being infected from micro droplets coming out of the mouth of an infected person with or without syptoms.

These droplets can stay up in the air for 20mins.

Washing of hands cannot be over emphasised...for external protection.
Then avoid drinking cold stuff this period and drink hot liquid preferably one with health benefit every morning.

This would destabilise the virus in the event it had gotten through our defences as it always congregates in the respiratory tracts.

Finally find a way of sun bathing early in the morning.

This will pass to.Cheers

We all dead then

GAZZUZZ:
We all dead then

Bonjovi13:
Very educative Suen.
The only thing I would add to your post is that Nigerians should make masks for themselves and wear if they need to go outside for supplies especially in a mall or shop as there is evidence of the chances of being infected from micro droplets coming out of the mouth of an infected person with or without syptoms.

These droplets can stay up in the air for 20mins.

Washing of hands cannot be over emphasised...for external protection.
Then avoid drinking cold stuff this period and drink hot liquid preferably one with health benefit every morning.

This would destabilise the virus in the event it had gotten through our defences as it always congregates in the respiratory tracts.

Finally find a way of sun bathing early in the morning.

This will pass to.Cheers

Seun:
Effect Of Temperature On COVID-19: An Unscientific Investigation.

In the early days of the Coronavirus scourge, many Nigerians believed that we wouldn't be affected because of our hot weather. Now that we're testing people, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of confirmed cases, to about 210, which is still quite low for a country with 190 million residents. However many people suspect that the virus has penetrated our society far more deeply than the NCDC statistics suggest. We've noticed that people who travelled to colder countries recently or spend most of their time in air-conditioned spaces, or their direct contacts, are massively over-represented among the confirmed cases. Is this because they are the only ones being tested, or is heat a factor?

Here is the list of the 10 countries that have the highest number of active COVID-19 cases, and their forecasted temperatures for the day:
* USA has 257,790 active cases. The temperature forecast for New York is 8°C - 15°C.
* Italy has 85,388 active cases. The temperature forecast for Rome is 7°C - 25°C.
* Spain has 77,488 active cases. The temperature forecast for Madrid is 6°C - 19°C
* Germany has 65,309 active cases. The temperature forecast for Berlin is 1°C - 12°C
* France has 61,650 active cases. The temperature forecast for Paris is 6°C - 17°C
* UK has 34,428 active cases. The temperature forecast for London is 4°C - 16°C
* Iran has 31,954 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tehran is 8°C - 19°C
* Turkey has 20,012 active cases. The temperature forecast for Istanbul is 8°C - 11°C
* Switzerland has 14,169 active cases. The temperature forecast for Geneva is 3°C - 17°C
* Netherlands has 13,986 active cases. The temperature forecast for Amsterdam is 4°C - 14°C

On average, the top ten countries with Coronavirus have a temperature forecast of 5.5 - 16.5°C. The temperature forecast for Lagos is 26°C - 34°C, and for Abuja, it's 24°C - 36°C. This is a massive, massive difference! The maximum temperature of nine of the countries above is lower than the minimum temperature of Lagos. The maximum temperature of 7 of those countries is lower than the minimum thermostat setting of most Nigerian air-conditioners (18°C).

The countries mentioned above are in Africa, Asia or Europe. What about Africa? Here's our top 5:
* South Africa has 1,401 active cases. The temperature forecast for Johannesburg is 9°C - 15°C.
* Algeria has 1,004 active cases. The temperature forecast for Algiers is 9°C - 17°C.
* Egypt has 703 active cases. The temperature forecast for Cairo is 24°C - 34°C.¹
* Tunisia has 472 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tunis is 8°C - 17°C.
* Burkina Faso has 236 active cases. The temperature forecast for Ouagadougou is 28°C - 43°C. ^1
1 The Egypt data is misleading because the their average temperature last month was 11.6°C to 26°C, but Burkina Faso is a legitimate outlier; the country is much hotter than Nigeria.

The above data, in spite of the outlier, is enough to convince me that the Coronavirus likes cold weather and probably spreads faster in cold places, such as air-conditioned cars, offices, and homes. This, apart from the lack of testing, may explain why we are yet to see any significant evidence of transmission outside the circles of travellers and the rich and powerful in Nigeria. It is consistent with what we know about other respiratory illnesses, and why countries like the US expect the disease to slow down in their summer season (starting from June).

When I see videos of Lagos officials spraying open areas e.g. roads & sidewalks in Lagos, I have to laugh, because I strongly suspect that, if they actually bothered to test for the presence of the virus on those surfaces, they'd find nothing at all because the sun already sterilized them.

Knowing that the virus hates our hot temperature gives me hope. If a cold country like South Korea (0°C -13°C forecast for today) could beat the virus without destroying their economy by imposing a total lockdown, a constantly hot country like Nigeria could do much better if we used the same tactics. We need to start testing people who have had close contact with confirmed cases before they show symptoms. We also need to enforce universal wearing of face-masks and social distancing everywhere, which in itself may even be sufficient to end the virus.

May your days be bright and hot. May your air-conditioners be off and your windows wide open (to get rid of aerosolized droplets). Cheers.

PS: I always make a lot of mistakes when I post long articles, so if you spot any errors, omissions, or false statements, please correct me.

Bonjovi13:
Not we will not die.

Ignore the hype and hysteria.A healthy body with strong immunity has almost 80 to 90% odds of recovering from a Covid 19 infection.

The fatality rate is low.

That's why maintaining social distancing is important.What is more necessary now more than ever is staying indoors.

We have over 5000 secondary contacts who have had contact with confirmed cases. About 3000 of them have been traced and isolated.

If the NCDC is able to track all of them and there are no new infections because of people mingling and infecting each other,Nigeria will be able to effectively contain the spread of the disease.

For now take foods and supplements that strengthen your immunity.

kowalsky:
Quote your source. Or stop spreading misinformation.


Aerosols (1mm) from infected person are grounded to the floor or nearby surfaces within a radius of 1 - 2 meters by gravity.

Although certain researches have detected viral RNA fragment in air around isolation centers. The WHO still maintains that the virus is not transmittable through air because such fragments are non-infective.

Bonjovi13:
I would try to find the video.It was actually a research recently conducted by health scientist.They made use of highly maginified cameras using thermal imaging to capture the spread of droplets from person to person close to each other or in a room with little or no ventilation or a room with controlled air conditioning.

The video showed droplets more than 1mm dropping quickly to the floor not more than 2 feets from the person coughing,sneezing or talking powerfully.

What was new however was that tiny droplets less than 1mm hovered over the air in an ever expanding pattern carried by the flow of air in the room.

This corresponds with the story of the choir members who had a choir practice in church in a state in the US.Out of the 60 members 45 tested positive for the corona virus,3 had died as at the time of the report and 5 were in critical condition.

Using WHO as your source....I laugh.They have changed their story.That is why they said we should wear masks..If you watched CNN news yesterday.Donald Trump was querried why he did not wear mask.He quoted the WHO...that they said it was not mandatory. He called the Health Secretary who contradicted him and said that the WHO had evidence that the virus can spread by air not over far distances i must add but in a controlled restricted environment like a room with ac or a car.

Exposure to heat does destabilize the virus though.

Believe whatever you like, but the facts speak for themselves.

kowalsky:
You've still not provided the links to your 'facts.'

Yes aerosols less than 1mm might float about in certain conditions, but research domiciled in China ruled out airborne transmission in the interim.

Again, while there's cause to believe that airborne transmission is possible, there has been no practical (real-life) evidence to corroborate that hypothesis.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/you-may-be-able-spread-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds?utm_source=newsfromscience%3Dflipboard%3Dflipboard2456289

VeeVeeMyLuv:
Yeah it has a predilection for cold, respiratory infections generally.

guys here whose workplace environment are always chilled with AC and who themselves work in OR with chillers (big refrigerators and freezers) will agree with me that they are always having catarrh, cold while on the job, some even develop pneumonia.

Bonjovi13:
Dude I hope you don't think for one second that I am going to spend my time arguing back and forth with you.
Stop quoting my comments.If you have anything you would like to add and share even if it is contrary to what anyone says,just go ahead and comment.I am not a Doctor and I don't claim to be an expert on corona virus. I am just sharing my limited knowledge on the subject.Do you aii?

Priapus69:
Your hypothesis is inherently flawed.
After getting your sample population you should factor in the quantity of testing done in those colder regions, compared to the warmer regions.
Then whatever results you think you have should undergo a 'Test of Significance' to see if the observed variable is well significant or not.
Untill that is done, whatever observations you think you know can and will be misleading.
Thanks

kowalsky:
Quote your source. Or stop spreading misinformation.


Aerosols (1mm) from infected person are grounded to the floor or nearby surfaces within a radius of 1 - 2 meters by gravity.

Although certain researches have detected viral RNA fragment in air around isolation centers. The WHO still maintains that the virus is not transmittable through air because such fragments are non-infective.

GAZZUZZ:
Very correct, we are doing 38-40deg this morning

Seun:
Effect Of Temperature On COVID-19: An Unscientific Investigation.

In the early days of the Coronavirus scourge, many Nigerians believed that we wouldn't be affected because of our hot weather. Now that we're testing