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saraki2019:
many Yorubas are heading Quranic schools in the north, just travelled put

. Quranic school is not a mosque.

Franking:
Mtchew. Dream on.

Dreams come true. I'd rather dream than be hopeless...

prophetfire:
. Quranic school is not a mosque.

here is no quranic school without a mosque

aadoiza:
Why did all of you who quoted me not understand the simple sentence I made? Lack of comprehension skill amongst our so-called literate might be the biggest bane of our society yet, not religion.

Pot calling kettle black

Avalancheman:
And the so called "elite" have gotten tired of using it a control the minds of the masses Only an ignoramus does know that the Bible is no friend of the "elite".

Lol

It is easier to deceive someone than to convince them that they have been deceived.

That's the problem you are having right now

hahn:
Lol

It is easier to deceive someone than to convince them that they have been deceived.

That's the problem you are having right now

And what is the basis for your attempt at convincing anyone that they have been deceived. Your extremely limited and faulty reasoning capacity

1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

saraki2019:
Same a northqn Christian can never has a church in Igbo land and no northan man has ever being a CAN chairman

go and check... From inception it was the north that head CAN then known as NCA

Avalancheman:
And what is the basis for your attempt at convincing anyone that they have been deceived. Your extremely limited and faulty reasoning capacity

1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

You keep posting from the bible like it should impress someone.

You are only showing how well you have been indoctrinated

hahn:
Pot calling kettle black

Just I admit it, you could not understand a simple sentence.
Your comments have provoked some sad implications: it's obvious brazen dumbness and lack of humility to admit our errors, however humiliating they are, are our biggest concerns.

aadoiza:
Just I admit it, you could not understand a simple sentence.
Your comments have provoked some sad implications: it's obvious brazen dumbness and lack of humility to admit our errors, however humiliating they are, are our biggest concerns.

It must have really hurt you. Sorry. Take these with water and your situation might improve

hahn:
You keep posting from the bible like it should impress someone.

You are only showing how well you have been indoctrinated

Because the Bible had pre-informed us of your likes millennia ago...

So I'm not surprised by your rants...

Be sincere, you must be shocked that the scriptures are just apt in describing you and what you stand for...

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

hahn:
You keep posting from the bible like it should impress someone.

You are only showing how well you have been indoctrinated

Don't mind him.
These religious folks never cease to show how deep their indoctrination and brainwashing has been, quoting the Bible like it's some kind of authority.

ReverseFlash:
Unsurprising. I'm an Afro-Peruvian but I can't trust nor take anything from a Nigerian. Everyone with his own taste.



Another possibility.

Ignorance is truly a sickness..you are african and even if peru is a melting pot they still treat you blacks like trash,your forefathers came to peru as slaves,you need to learn history boy,your forefathers might even be a nigerian


The first Africans arrived with the conquerors in 1521, mostly as slaves, and some returned with colonists to settle in 1525. Between 1529 and 1537, when Francisco Pizarro was granted permits to import 363 slaves to colonial Peru, a large group of Africans were imported to do labor for public construction, building bridges and road systems. They also fought alongside the conquistadors as soldiers and worked as personal servants and bodyguards. In 1533 Afro-Peruvian slaves accompanied Spaniards in the conquest of Cuzco.

[b]Two types of black slaves were forced to travel to Peru. Those born in Africa were commonly referred to as negros bozales ("untamed blacks", which was also used in a derogatory sense. These slaves could have been directly shipped from west or southwest Africa [/b]or transported from the Spanish Indies or other Spanish colonies. Afro-Peruvians previously acculturated to Spanish culture and who spoke Spanish were called negros ladinos ("hispanicized blacks". Some were mulattos, descendants of Spanish men and African women.[5] People of color performed skilled and unskilled functions that contributed to Hispanic colonization.

Avalancheman:
Because the Bible had pre-informed us of your likes millennia ago...

So I'm not surprised by your rants...

Be sincere, you must be shocked that the scriptures are just apt in describing you and what you stand for...

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

That verse was talking about you and your god

hahn:
That verse was talking about you and your god

Your fingers, your data, your doom...

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

OriOko88:
Lol. Stinking headslammer. Omo irankiran. Nio ba furo awon babanla baba e.

Omo ale oloribu, awon Baba n la Baba e ni ko lo jise fun n ile.
Ko ara da soun. Ode, ole atole eru pasitor.Go and give your pastorprenual slave master a Mouth Action like you normally do during bible study.

Avalancheman:
Your fingers, your data, your doom...

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Now it's time for you to go and start killing all the people that have been insulting Adeboye and TB Joshua as commanded in the bible

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

hahn:
Now it's time for you to go and start killing all the people that have been insulting Adeboye and TB Joshua as commanded in the bible

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

I don't need to. Our LORD Jesus Christ abolished that when he was around...

Someday, they will be punished if they don't repent... And it could be before or after the rapture...

Avalancheman:
I don't need to. Our LORD Jesus Christ abolished that when he was around...

Someday, they will be punished if they don't repent... And it could be before or after the rapture...

But Jesus said in Matthew 5:17

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

hahn:
It must have really hurt you. Sorry. Take these with water and your situation might improve

Hurt? Because I showed to the world your apparent dim-wittedness. If that is hurt, I wanna be hurt all my life.

aadoiza:
Hurt? Because I showed to the world your apparent dim-wittedness. If that is hurt, I wanna be hurt all my life.

Guy, roll a blunt, drink garri and get some sleep.

Tomorrow is another day

hahn:
But Jesus said in Matthew 5:17

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Sure. They will be fulfilled His own way and in His own time not like we used to know...

Finally, you had to resort to the Bible...

orunmila144:
its not his country. there is nothing to win here. he did the right thing

spoken like a true African, you will always run and hide - that is why you never win in the world! slave mentality!

aadoiza:
No, they are not true Christians. At least that's their usual guff of excuse.

They certainly are not Christian. The word Christian mean christlike so even if a person calls himself a Christian but does not behave like christ then it is obvious he is not. In christ days racisim was rampart the jews discriminate samaritans and others as sub humans, but Jesus used the Story of the good samaritan to teach that he abhors racist views. So racisim has no part in true christianity

hahn:
Guy, roll a blunt, drink garri and get some sleep.

Tomorrow is another day

Night, night.

Antichristus:
Don’t bring Christianity into this because I’m not religious. You want to give me 10k is it in Naira or Cedis? We’ll go and give it to poor because I’m bigger than that. In fact, I haven’t touched that dirty money called Naira in 20 years. I handle cleaner and more important currencies. That said, these are some Satanic verses from that stupid stuff you regard as your holy book a copy of which I have in my toilet and use as toilet paper. I don’t use toilet rolls. It’s the cheapest toilet paper. When it finishes, I get another one and tear it to clean my bum every single day. In the meantime these are your satanic verses and teachings.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that speak of war with nonbelievers, usually on the basis of their status as non-Muslims. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that they are not necessarily restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God. Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Islam's apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally don't stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance out those calling for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable emphasis on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Quran

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan)" The Arabic for the word "fight" is from qital, meaning physical combat.

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (4:101) - "And when you (Muslims) travel in the land, there is no sin on you if you shorten your Salat (prayer) if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you, verily, the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies." Mere disbelief makes one an "open" enemy of Muslims.

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle, given that it both followed and preceded confrontations in which non-Muslims were killed by Muslims. The targets of violence are "those who disbelieve" - further defined in the next verse (13) as those who "defy and disobey Allah." Nothing is said about self-defense. In fact, the verses in sura 8 were narrated shortly after a battle provoked by Muhammad, who had been trying to attack a lightly-armed caravan to steal goods belonging to other people. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during the pilgrimage. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - but not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, as it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." As Ibn Kathir puts it in his tafsir on this passage, "Allah commands Muslims to prepare for war against disbelievers, as much as possible, according to affordability and availability." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert. (See also: Response to Apologists)

[Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield. In 2016, the Islamic State referred to this verse in urging the faithful to commit terror attacks: Allah did not only command the 'fighting' of disbelievers, as if to say He only wants us to conduct frontline operations against them. Rather, He has also ordered that they be slain wherever they may be – on or off the battlefield. (source)]

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell. The verse also links physical fighting to the "cause of Allah" (or "way of Allah". (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and - in this case - on Christian soil, according to the historians). (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It explains why today's devout Muslims generally have little regard for those outside the faith. The inclusion of "hypocrites" (non-practicing) within the verse also contradicts the apologist's defense that the targets of hate and hostility are wartime foes, since there was never an opposing army made up of non-religious Muslims in Muhammad's time. (See also Games Muslims Play: Terrorists Can't Be Muslim Because They Kill Muslims for the role this verse plays in Islam's perpetual internal conflicts). (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer? (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (v.74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. [Note: This parable along with verse 58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).] (See also: Response to Apologists)

Quran (21:44) - "...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness with it." - The root for Jihad is used twice in this verse - although it may not have been referring to Holy War when narrated, since it was prior to the hijra at Mecca. The "it" at the end is thought to mean the Quran. Thus the verse may have originally meant a non-violent resistance to the 'unbelievers.' Obviously, this changed with the hijra. 'Jihad' after this is almost exclusively within a violent context. The enemy is always defined as people, rather than ideas.

Even from the jargons u spew it's clear you lack basic knowledge of science and Islam. Prophet Muhammad was chased out of his land, he didn't fight them. He went to another land and they chased him there. Yet he didn't fight them. But when they wanted to killed him and he fight back u saw it as war. May God give u sense to know the difference between self defense and offensive fight.

itsme01:



typical of an Ibo person, insult him back and give him a taste of his medicine he would be the first to shout and play the victim

So dw website which reported as a renown german media it is now owned by Ibos?

Is there any hope for ewedu muslims to ever become blessed with common sense? I really doubt.

Osidazz19:
You sabi them wella. Always crying victimization even in situations where they are the oppressors. Go figure.

Muslimudeen buffoon, since your friend has ran away. Is DW a popular German media that reported according to this thread an IBO website?

Open your rotten odoriferous anti-Ibo muslim mouth and tell us what your empty almajiri brain thinks.

Sctests:
Muslimudeen buffoon, since your friend has ran away. Is DW a popular German media that reported according to this thread an IBO website?

Open your rotten odoriferous anti-Ibo muslim mouth and tell us what your empty almajiri brain thinks.

I don't argue with irrelevant brainwashed ipob Biafuro crazytian monkeys. I only educate them. Come back for some education when I'm in the mood. For now, STFU and get lost. I'm busy with more important issues.

dooch:
https://m.dw.com/en/nigerian-priest-leaves-german-parish-after-receiving-death-threat/a-53167601?fbclid=IwAR1aBbcItLaaCg6g2HsZsc7ux2Nl_UTaIrpbepapQxc8YErodzm8yIBrcGo

These are the SAVAGES MOST Nigerians live to idolize.