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Jokerman:
By individual abilities, that means Messi is not the goat then... Or what are the qualities you are looking at?

Do you really watch football? Abilities with the ball. The way one controls the ball, dribbles, freekicks, passes, shots, heading, goals, individual honours etc.

Jokerman:
Lies for Messi...which team applaud Messi...

Messi: Atletico Madrid 1-3 Barcelona (2008/09, Copa del Rey).


Messi: Real Betis 1-4 Barcelona (2018/19, LaLiga Santander)
Always check ur fact before arguing. 1minute search won't kill you.
Shalom.

Techiekingee:
U just acting your moniker, Olodo
Where was Ronaldo wen Messi collected a champions League from him
Where was ronaldo wen ac Milan trashed man u 3-0,
Wer was e wen Germany trashed Portugal...
Better behave urself, u think anyone's invincible...
Wen ronaldo was in Madrid, wu did dey play for?
Casemiro abi??

When and how did Messi collect champions league from Ronaldo.. Messi that has not played in a CL final in half a decade after iniesta and xavi left ... Someone that just played in his first semi final last year since 2015 .. trashed by Roma 3.0 and Liverpool 4.0 back to back ... Lost every single major final that he has played for country without scoring a goal or supplying an assist ...

Humanoid01:
Exactly, I'm not a Barcelona fan, and obviously not an Argentine lol but I believe that Messi is by far a better player than Ronaldo. People who pick Ronaldo ahead of Messi are either sentimentalists or they don't know anything about football.

How can u reasonably agree with what u typed...this is the reason why the world is do messed up...do much hypocrisy... Even a robot knows that those that say Messi are very much biased... How come this same player that is the greatest according to u guys can't win anything with Argentina( a power house in football) if he was that good , he is meant to have won a major trophy with Argentina... Ok , hoe come he hasn't played in a final of the champions league in half a decade ever since xavi and iniesta Left... He only wins his local league as an achievement, and u lots are saying he is the greatest... U guys are just as crazy as those northern politicians

ignis:
That is his personal opinion.

Let Messi leave Spanish League and come and perform in Premier League let me see.

Who are you that Messi will prove something to

oodua1stson:
name one tournament where ronaldo played for Portugal and he was named the best player.



Messi was best player at world cup, Olympics, copa America and u20 world cup all for Argentina


Ronaldo has never won best player at any tournament for Portugal .



Messi has done more for Argentina than ronaldo has done for portugal. 3 senior tournaments golden ball don't lie

Point of correction...more for himself and not Argentina... So the fans sent him to go win trophies and he is came bk with golden ball... Don't u see how foolish u think ... So personal awards is better than a nations trophy...lol... U must b a patient in yaba left

Techiekingee:
Why didn't u choose Guardiola because he has proven himself in more leagues than Ferguson??

Ferguson won trophies with Aberdeen...in fact , Aberdeen's best years was with Sir Alex ... Ur Messi has nothing to show apart from league titles with barca ,or has he won any other major trophy in 5 yrs??

Beverlyjean:
When and how did Messi collect champions league from Ronaldo.. Messi that has not played in a CL final in half a decade after iniesta and xavi left ... Someone that just played in his first semi final last year since 2015 .. trashed by Roma 3.0 and Liverpool 4.0 back to back ... Lost every single major final that he has played for country without scoring a goal or supplying an assist ...

Lol... u Ronaldo fans are always quick to mention Messi's shortcomings as if Ronaldo doesn't av any...

All this things you mentioned, ask urself...are they problems of a player or a team

Wu collected d champions League 2008-2009...(a match played btw Ronaldo's Man u And Messi's Barcelona?

Wu knocked out ronaldo and real madrid from champions League 2011


How many Laliga trophies did Ronaldo win in his nine years in real Madrid??

Ronaldo has not won a European golden boot in half a decade....

Ronaldo has never seen a world cup final or won any best player of international tournament

How many Portugal finals has Ronaldo scored in??

Who didn't win any champions League trophy until real Madrid bought modric in 2013 and kroos in 2014??
Where was e before d arrival of kroos and modric??

Beverlyjean:
Ferguson won trophies with Aberdeen...in fact , Aberdeen's best years was with Sir Alex ... Ur Messi has nothing to show apart from league titles with barca ,or has he won any other major trophy in 5 yrs??

And Ferguson is better thsn Mourinho too
Please do urself d favor or going back to read d previous messages and how we got here..

Is copa del rey a major trophy or not??

How many league trophies has ur team won in 5 years

Techiekingee:
Lol... u Ronaldo fans are always quick to mention Messi's shortcomings as if Ronaldo doesn't av any...

All this things you mentioned, ask urself...are they problems of a player or a team

Wu collected d champions League 2008-2009...(a match played btw Ronaldo's Man u And Messi's Barcelona?

Wu knocked out ronaldo and real madrid from champions League 2011


How many Laliga trophies did Ronaldo win in his nine years in real Madrid??

Ronaldo has not won a European golden boot in half a decade....

Ronaldo has never seen a world cup final or won any best player of international tournament

How many Portugal finals has Ronaldo scored in??

Who didn't win any champions League trophy until real Madrid bought modric in 2013 and kroos in 2014??
Where was e before d arrival of kroos and modric??

Stop giving us dinosaur records, past glory ... Champions league supersedes any European club trophy... Ronaldo has achieved more in the past decade than Messi ... Many teams win league titles in Europe yearly but only one team wins the champions league ... He has even won 2 major trophies for Portugal ( a weak European team that had never appeared in any final in history till Ronaldo became a part of the team) ... U guys think that dribbling and mesmerizing is what football is about.. leadership matters as well as taking control of the game when ur team mates are down and out... If not for Ronaldo, Madrid and Portugal wud hv been doomed ... Took man u to 2 finals, since he left , man u hvnt seen semi finals...

Messi is nothing but a local la Liga champion...that is the only thing he wins with with top scorer on the league as well... Won his first outright top scorer in the CL for the first last season since 2012

Techiekingee:
And Ferguson is better thsn Mourinho too
Please do urself d favor or going back to read d previous messages and how we got here..

Is copa del rey a major trophy or not??

How many league trophies has ur team won in 5 years

The only 2 serious trophies in club football is CL and league...the rest is just a bunch of crap( world club cup inclusive)

So what if Madrid have won it once in 5 yrs ?? At least it was recent 2016/17...

Without a doubt Messi is the most talented player in the world. Though, if hypothetically, CR7 is eligible to play for any country and you ask Argentinians to make a pick of who they would choose to lead their team ... many would secretly select CR7 to play in a trophy final game because the dude is a confident leader that delivers results!

Beverlyjean:
Stop giving us dinosaur records, past glory ... Champions league supersedes any European club trophy... Ronaldo has achieved more in the past decade than Messi ... Many teams win league titles in Europe yearly but only one team wins the champions league ... He has even won 2 major trophies for Portugal ( a weak European team that had never appeared in any final in history till Ronaldo became a part of the team) ... U guys think that dribbling and mesmerizing is what football is about.. leadership matters as well as taking control of the game when ur team mates are down and out... If not for Ronaldo, Madrid and Portugal wud hv been doomed ... Took man u to 2 finals, since he left , man u hvnt seen semi finals...

Messi is nothing but a local la Liga champion...that is the only thing he wins with with top scorer on the league as well... Won his first outright top scorer in the CL for the first last season since 2012

Won two major trophies for Portugal.....Euro2016 and which

You claim Ronaldo has achieve more in 10years.... should i list their achievements??

If not for Ronaldo, real Madrid wud av bin doomed....i can't expect any worse than this from a girl ...real Madrid had d most European trophy before and after Ronaldo came.....more like if not for Madrid, Ronaldo wub av bin doomed...i still ask, where was Ronaldo's leadership before d arrival of kroos and modric

Since Ronaldo left, Man u hasn't seen semi final??...was ronaldo in d Man u team that played 2011 champions League final?? ....d question is how many EPL team have been to the Champions League final since 2011??...not just man utd....stop gving underserved Credit to Ronaldo cos u luv him

Wu won top scorer in champions League in 2015??


Messi is nothing but a local la liga champion?? ...But anytime e faces Ronaldo in the champions League, Ronaldo ghosts

Beverlyjean:
The only 2 serious trophies in club football is CL and league...the rest is just a bunch of crap( world club cup inclusive)

So what if Madrid have won it once in 5 yrs ?? At least it was recent 2016/17...

U just said The league trophy is serious, how many did Ronaldo win in 9years and how many champions League did messi win in 9years??

Techiekingee:
U just said The league trophy is serious, how many did Ronaldo win in 9years and how many champions League did messi win in 9years??

Mentioning 9yrs in this context is crap cos u can talking about relic trophies... The past 5 yrs ... Like comparing man u to man city now and u start mention the fergie yrs that was long time ago

I ONCE HAD A FOOTBALL COMMENTATOR SAY MESSI " IS THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM THAT PRESENTS ITSELF" LAST YEAR 2019

Beverlyjean:
Mentioning 9yrs in this context is crap cos u can talking about relic trophies... The past 5 yrs ... Like comparing man u to man city now and u start mention the fergie yrs that was long time ago

So, has Messi not won a League trophy for d past 5yrs?, 4yrs?, 3yrs?,2yrs,??
You keep Undermining Messi's effort in the League because he totally outclassed Ronaldo in the League during Ronaldo's stay...
Do u also Undermine Messi's effort in the previous champions League tournament....u can as well do dat because dey lost to Liverpool...
Thank God for football award like balon d or, golden boot, etc...even when a team fails u, u get recognised for ur brilliance

Techiekingee:
Won two major trophies for Portugal.....Euro2016 and which

You claim Ronaldo has achieve more in 10years.... should i list their achievements??

If not for Ronaldo, real Madrid wud av bin doomed....i can't expect any worse than this from a girl ...real Madrid had d most European trophy before and after Ronaldo came.....more like if not for Madrid, Ronaldo wub av bin doomed...i still ask, where was Ronaldo's leadership before d arrival of kroos and modric

Since Ronaldo left, Man u hasn't seen semi final??...was ronaldo in d Man u team that played 2011 champions League final?? ....d question is how many EPL team have been to the Champions League final since 2011??...not just man utd....stop gving underserved Credit to Ronaldo cos u luv him

Wu won top scorer in champions League in 2015??


Messi is nothing but a local la liga champion?? ...But anytime e faces Ronaldo in the champions League, Ronaldo ghosts

The nations league is a major trophy played European standard with the best players in Europe participating....

Pls list their achievements in the past decade...

Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around...

Had kroose or modric ever won a CL title b4?? Y dint they do it in their previous clubs??

If u read what I posted properly...u wud know that Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo...

They hv only faced 2ice ... Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final...but they lost , so how did he ghost??

Techiekingee:
So, has Messi not won a League trophy for d past 5yrs?, 4yrs?, 3yrs?,2yrs,??
You keep Undermining Messi's effort in the League because he totally outclassed Ronaldo in the League during Ronaldo's stay...

Just as Ronaldo outclassed him in the CL by trophies and top scorer best player... And the CL supersedes any league

aimmoney9:
I ONCE HAD A FOOTBALL COMMENTATOR SAY MESSI " IS THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM THAT PRESENTS ITSELF" LAST YEAR 2019

Y wasn't he the solution to them loosing 4.0 to Liverpool and 3.0 to Roma to b knocked out bk to bk or the solution to the final of the Copa del rey loss to Valencia ... Or the countless and endless disappointments in the national team...

Beverlyjean:
The nations league is a major trophy played European standard with the best players in Europe participating....

Pls list their achievements in the past decade...

Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around...

Had kroose or modric ever won a CL title b4?? Y dint they do it in their previous clubs??

If u read what I posted properly...u wud know that Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo...

They hv only faced 2ice ... Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final...but they lost , so how did he ghost??

First off, Nations league is d equivalent of Copa del rey wich u claimed isn't a serious tournament

Achievements of Ronaldo and messi for the last decade coming through...


"Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around" ....
..Nothing was turned around until fast forward to 2013 wen d right players wer bought....dey wer heavily dominated by Barcelona and Guardiola even with ronaldo before d arrival of kroos and modric in 2013...u cant deny that....

No doubt Ronaldo is a great goal scorer....you can't deny that Modric and kroos are reaped the benefits of being world class midfielders by having a good forward like Ronaldo who finishes the attacks..... evidently, before kroos and Modric, Messi was always champions League top scorer...
Ronaldo peaked up when kroos and modric came over...

"Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo"....True Modric and kroos changed dat...and Ronaldo joined juve leaving kroos and modric...did he win top scorer of d champions League last year??

U can't deny d impact Real Madrid had on Ronaldo's career

"Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final"........ astonishing!.... explain...messi was d highest Goal scorer in d competition with 9 goals... Messi scored a goal in d final and Ronaldo went blank....so explain to me how

Beverlyjean:
Just as Ronaldo outclassed him in the CL by trophies and top scorer best player... And the CL supersedes any league

Totally outclassed....
Ova d last five years, true
Ova Ronaldo's nine yrs in Real Madrid, No

Techiekingee:
First off, Nations league is d equivalent of Copa del rey wich u claimed isn't a serious tournament

Achievements of Ronaldo and messi for the last decade coming through...


"Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around" ....
..Nothing was turned around until fast forward to 2013 wen d right players wer bought....dey wer heavily dominated by Barcelona and Guardiola even with ronaldo before d arrival of kroos and modric in 2013...u cant deny that....

No doubt Ronaldo is a great goal scorer....you can't deny that Modric and kroos are reaped the benefits of being world class midfielders by having a good forward like Ronaldo who finishes the attacks..... evidently, before kroos and Modric, Messi was always champions League top scorer...
Ronaldo peaked up when kroos and modric came over...

"Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo"....True Modric and kroos changed dat...and Ronaldo joined juve leaving kroos and modric...did he win top scorer of d champions League last year??

U can't deny d impact Real Madrid had on Ronaldo's career

"Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final"........ astonishing!.... explain...messi was d highest Goal scorer in d competition with 9 goals... Messi scored a goal in d final and Ronaldo went blank....so explain to me how

When he was top scorer in 08 /09 at man u...was it modric and kroose that supplied him the passes?? He has been his team's outright top scorer for the past 11 yrs ... Whr was kroose and modric when he became the first man in la Liga to score 40 goals in one season?? Whr were they when he also won la Liga in 2012?? He is still doing it at juve at 35 despite juves slow style of attacking football...that's how u know s great man.... Messi can only play well in teams specially set up for him ....

Techiekingee:
Totally outclassed....
Ova d last five years, true
Ova Ronaldo's nine yrs in Real Madrid, No

Y 9 years...y do long?? So that u can sneak in 2011 CL and la Liga ...when real Madrid whr still gaining confidence after being a disaster for such a long time

As a student your lecturers especially in the arts and humanities will find it very easy to thrash your arguments. Will a player get on a pitch and deliberately injure himself. French players targeted him thinking taking him out means they have won the trophy. The tackle by Payet was similar to the tackle that took Pele out of 1966 world cup. However taking him out turned to blessing in disguise as he took over the touchline from the coach. That is leadership and that is what Messi can never bring into play. There is limit to talent.

eni4real:
Contributions without playing in the final??

Eder's goal against France is greater than all the 3goals and 3 fake assist recorded by Cristiano!!

Stop the Overhype now!!

Fenomeno scored 8 goals in 2002 World cup win

Platini scored 9 goals in 1984 Euro cup Triumph

With hatricks!!!

Here you are bringing ignorant meme about a player who became Injured after seeing a team bigger than Hungary and Wales!!!

Greece players of 2004 performed better than Cristiano in 2016.. ... Let alone this fake invention you brought up for a player whose Eder's goal blew away!!!!

Tell me, how come Griezman won the best player of the tournament and not Cristiano??

Eder is Cristiano international career SAVIOUR!!

Cristiano is only great in Qualifiers!!!

Became injured in the biggest night of his international Career..

All thanks to Eder who shot Cristiano to happiness!!!

A lady schooling emotional guys in football punditry.
Hats off for you girl.

Beverlyjean:
Stop giving us dinosaur records, past glory ... Champions league supersedes any European club trophy... Ronaldo has achieved more in the past decade than Messi ... Many teams win league titles in Europe yearly but only one team wins the champions league ... He has even won 2 major trophies for Portugal ( a weak European team that had never appeared in any final in history till Ronaldo became a part of the team) ... U guys think that dribbling and mesmerizing is what football is about.. leadership matters as well as taking control of the game when ur team mates are down and out... If not for Ronaldo, Madrid and Portugal wud hv been doomed ... Took man u to 2 finals, since he left , man u hvnt seen semi finals...

Messi is nothing but a local la Liga champion...that is the only thing he wins with with top scorer on the league as well... Won his first outright top scorer in the CL for the first last season since 2012

Beverlyjean:
When he was top scorer in 08 /09 at man u...was it modric and kroose that supplied him the passes?? He has been his team's outright top scorer for the past 11 yrs ... Whr was kroose and modric when he became the first man in la Liga to score 40 goals in one season?? Whr were they when he also won la Liga in 2012?? He is still doing it at juve at 35 despite juves slow style of attacking football...that's how u know s great man.... Messi can only play well in teams specially set up for him ....

Which midfielder was better dan Paul scholes in 2008??...go bak and look at dat Manutd team...der wer d best in d world u can't deny....

Whr was kroose and modric when he became the first man in la Liga to score 40 goals in one season??.... modric and kroos weren't der but Ozil was.... go and check how many times ozil assisted ronaldo dat year...Ozil just couldn't assist in the champions League... Messi scored 31 and assisted 18, whose record came close to that??

2012 was a lucky year for dem...evryone knows...dey won narrowly....did dey win it again till 2017??

Messi can only play well in team specially set up for him....is Argentina also specially set up for him
Because
He's d top scorer of the AFA
He's d only player to win all these;
World cup golden ball
U21 world cup golden ball
Copa America best young player
Golden boy
Copa America golden ball
Etc....

And below is dia achievements for the last decades... please count carefully and tell us d result
..
If it isn't clear enough for u to see, u can use d link
https://messivsronaldo.net/#honours

Well, he said what we always knew. Messi is ahead.

BUT huge respect to Ronaldo. He doesn't quite have the mercurial talents of Messi, but his work ethics, discipline, versatility, determination and hunger for a new challenge took him a few levels higher than others with comparable talents. In fact it's the only reason he catapulted himself into Messi's bracket.

It's something anyone aspiring to any thing in life can emulate. Hard work, discipline and focus can take you almost as high as possible in the right environment.

Dont mind him he conveniently removed 1 goal from CR7's left footed goals .Adding that to it is 40 goals difference from their weaker foot which is a lor.Not to talk of a whopping 100 goals difference in headed goals.

jaxxy:
To an extent yes bt maradona still called him a one dimensional player from analysing his play especially recently.

Just like Roger Federer vs Raphael Nadal in tennis. Finesse vs Power.

Messi all time best. Iwin.

Jokerman:
Lolssss

I have said this time without number...

We all know the conspiracy against Ronaldo, shebi that's why he was denied the 6th ballondor

However since Pele( �) goes with Cr7, his opinion carries more weight than any player on earth

Pele na bad belle because of ethernal rivalry between Argentina and Brazil, so dont expect him to be objective.