Humanoid01:

The fact that he stepped up his goal scoring tally two seasons before he left doesn't negate the statistics I stated. In fact, that buttresses my point which countered your initial point. Messi started scoring English teams even before Ronaldo left united. Have you forgotten his goals against Arsenal in the UCL and even against man united in the UCL final when Ronaldo was still there?

It doesn't matter if it's only the top 6 teams Messi can play against, it should even be harder for him to score against them. He picks on the so called top 6 teams like they're LA liga teams.

Barcelona was European best club at that time and will still most likely win most English teams... his first goal against an English team was in the 08/09season... Ronaldo joined Madrid the following season

Humanoid01:

..and he got exactly what he went there for -- trophies, despite being a flop.

But he was a flop ... regardless... If Messi joins another team and he is outshined by other players despite winning trophies like rivaldo, he will b remembered as a failure

Beverlyjean:


Barcelona was European best club at that time and will still most likely win most English teams... his first goal against an English team was in the 08/09season... Ronaldo joined Madrid the following season

Based on this, you'll also agree with me that it doesn't make any difference that Ronaldo goes to other teams to win trophies. It's just what it is, they're ball big clubs.

Techiekingee:

How many others who once chose Messi have changed dia opinion??.....other dan d old man

Are u in any other their minds or are u friends with any of them??

Humanoid01:

Based on this, you'll also agree with me that it doesn't make any difference that Ronaldo goes to other teams to win trophies. It's just what it is, they're ball big clubs.

But still , there is no guarantee that he will perform

Beverlyjean:


But he was a flop ... regardless... If Messi joins another team and he is outshined by other players despite winning trophies like rivaldo, he will b remembered as a failure

Salah was a star at Basel before he joined Chelsea. He flopped massively during his stay at the club. When he went to Roma and Liverpool respectively, he regained his former Basel self. How do you analyze his ability as a player based on this fact?

Beverlyjean:


But still , there is no guarantee that he will perform

He may not reproduce the same performance as he did in his former team, but he would definitely perform. Ronaldo is a great player, that's an indisputable fact. You can't compare him with the likes of Torres and Shevchenko (who were great players as well).

Humanoid01:

Salah was a star at Basel before he joined Chelsea. He flopped massively during his stay at the club. When he went to Roma and Liverpool respectively, he regained his former Basel self. How do you analyze his ability as a player based on this fact?

That's y I said there's no guarantee that a fantastic player will do well in another team..alot of factors come in place... Messi might join man city and flop but could then b transferred to inter and will perform... But the reason y Ronaldo is something else is that he performs wherever he goes.. even if u say he goes to top clubs that y he performs... don't forget that Portugal was never among European elite buy he turned that team around... something Messi has failed to do with Argentina... A football power house

Beverlyjean:


That's y I said there's no guarantee that a fantastic player will do well in another team..alot of factors come in place... Messi might join man city and flop but could then b transferred to inter and will perform... But the reason y Ronaldo is something else is that he performs wherever he goes.. even if u say he goes to top clubs that y he performs... don't forget that Portugal was never among European elite buy he turned that team around... something Messi has failed to do with Argentina... A football power house

You have strong points, Ronaldo has a big advantage in this argument because he has tried other teams and replicated his previous performances to an extent. However, I want you to know that before he went to those clubs, and became a top player in Portugal, they have been successful teams. So going to those teams doesn't make any difference. How do you reconcile with the fact that most players who have played with Ronaldo tend to pick Messi ahead of him?

Beverlyjean:


It's not Messi hatred...kaka was better than scholes that yr... I meant 2016 Barca's league victory...they won on the last day by 1 point thanks to Suarez scoring 4 goals ... talking about ghosting...Messi has been ghosting in finals of his national team... Batistuta has a better goal ratio than Messi in national team

Kaka better in 2008, I believe u meant 2007 cos e won d balon dor 4 his 2006-2007 performance.....

Scholes was Instrumental in 2008....just listen and be blessed..

2015/2016....Messi suffered alot of injuries from knee injury to kidney problem to back bruises. He missed alot of matches which made it a tight season for Barcelona....it was d same season where Suarez won golden boot.... Messi was injured throughout.....

Messi has been Ghosting in finals of his national team??...what has Ronaldo been doing... scoring hattricks??.. go back and rewatch Argentina vs Germany 2014 final and see wu created d most chances


"Batistuta has a better goal ratio than Messi in national team".... and so?? What's ur point??
Eusebio has a Better ratio dan Ronaldo

Beverlyjean:


That's y I said there's no guarantee that a fantastic player will do well in another team..alot of factors come in place... Messi might join man city and flop but could then b transferred to inter and will perform... But the reason y Ronaldo is something else is that he performs wherever he goes.. even if u say he goes to top clubs that y he performs... don't forget that Portugal was never among European elite buy he turned that team around... something Messi has failed to do with Argentina... A football power house

As Messi hasn't joined man city or joined anoda team or flopped, u guys can shut ur mouths up. Argue if he goes and flops.. trash Higuaín came to serie A and won golden boot with Napoli... Lukaku is having one of his bests scoring spells and ure here running ur mouth...
Zlatan and Ronaldo, who has travelled more
Did e flop??
Go and check Fifa ranking since 2013, Messi Argentina has always been on top...
Portugal only topped dem dis yr because of d nation's league..wait till copa America begins

Humanoid01:

You have strong points, Ronaldo has a big advantage in this argument because he has tried other teams and replicated his previous performances to an extent. However, I want you to know that before he went to those clubs, and became a top player in Portugal, they have been successful teams. So going to those teams doesn't make any difference. How do you reconcile with the fact that most players who have played with Ronaldo tend to pick Messi ahead of him?

People tend to fall towards Ronaldo cos they feel he is arrogant...just like trump is hated even tho he has been the most effective president in decades....Obama is Messi... Trump is Ronaldo...and no matter how effective trump is , he will still b hatred

Beverlyjean:


People tend to fall towards Ronaldo cos they feel he is arrogant...just like trump is hated even tho he has been the most effective president in decades

How would you know that? Do you feel what they feel? Messi is also arrogant to an extent. He seems to have an attitude problem. so that factor doesn't suffice for an argument.

“He, like Cristiano Ronaldo, who is not at his level, are both above the rest.

Perhaps you dong u understand this phrase beckham used... all he meant was messi isn't on ronaldos level.... but of them are above other players..... meaning he rates ronaldo higher... learn some English

Techiekingee:

Didn't u read d part wer he said Messi is in a class of his own.
What does that mean to you??

It means lil to nothing 4 me... It's his opinion
My opinion is such that both has reached the zenith of football talent optimization, that grafting them into different classes based on talent makes no sense anymore, instead I look at all other criterias as to their game to make my choice, from which I simply say I prefer Ronaldo to messi...

Beverlyjean:


That's y I said there's no guarantee that a fantastic player will do well in another team..alot of factors come in place... Messi might join man city and flop but could then b transferred to inter and will perform... But the reason y Ronaldo is something else is that he performs wherever he goes.. even if u say he goes to top clubs that y he performs... don't forget that Portugal was never among European elite buy he turned that team around... something Messi has failed to do with Argentina... A football power house

...his yet to perform in juve sir

Messi is a virus.
Ronaldo is a cure.

Humanoid01:

How would you know that? Do you feel what they feel? Messi is also arrogant to an extent. He seems to have an attitude problem. so that factor doesn't suffice for an argument.

What football do you watch?
Messi attitude problems?

Benevento:
Messi a level above Ronaldo in class of his own’ – Beckham ranks Barcelona star above former Man Utd No.7

Lionel Messi Cristiano Ronaldo Barcelona Juventus

The Red Devils and Real Madrid legend considers an Argentine playmaker to be a better player than a man who inherited his shirt at Old Trafford
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Lionel Messi is a level above even Cristiano Ronaldo, says Manchester United legend David Beckham, with the Barcelona superstar considered to sit in a class of his own.

Many share that opinion of the mercurial Argentine forward, with his exploits at Camp Nou continuing to amaze and raise the bar of individual excellence.

Eternal rival Ronaldo is the only player to have got close to Messi, with the pair having split 11 Ballons d’Or between them.


Messi, though, has captivated audiences with his mazy dribbling and audacious finishing for the best part of 16 years, with a remarkable return of 627 goals recorded for the Blaugrana in that time.

For former England captain Beckham, who passed on the No.7 shirt at United to Ronaldo and also preceded him at Real Madrid, South American flair wins out over Portuguese power.

He told Telam: “He [Messi] is alone in his class as a player, it is impossible that there is another like him.

“He, like Cristiano Ronaldo, who is not at his level, are both above the rest.”

Lionel Messi David Beckham FC Barcelona PSG

Beckham briefly shared a Champions League stage with Messi towards the end of his own distinguished playing career.

The former LA Galaxy midfielder was on the books at Paris Saint-Germain by that stage, as he prepared to hang up his boots in France.

PSG were paired with Barca at the quarter-final stage of Europe’s premier club competition in 2013, with the Catalan giants eventually progressing on away goals after a 3-3 stalemate over two legs.

Beckham’s side were ahead at one stage during their visit to Camp Nou, but Messi stepped off the bench in that game and Pedro snatched what would prove to be the decisive effort in a thrilling tie.

“We were leading before Messi came in, and once he came in, Barcelona scored,” Beckham said.


“Although I enjoyed playing at that level at my age, I do not like to lose.

“Our team played well. In both matches, we did things we should be proud of.

“We didn't lose against Barcelona, and that is something that should motivate us.”

https://www.goal.com/en/amp/news/messi-level-above-ronaldo-beckham-barcelona-man-utd/w6n84g6lfse81qcgzbhb5c4hm

Hisiwn opinion,and his jealous of Cristiano Ronaldo,Ronaldo as render him useless in Manchester United and Real Madrid history to wear number 7 jersey,and his try to lure Messi to his new club...Bad belle

Igbosmoker:
According to penaldo fans he's jealous because Ronaldo is more handsome and popular.

Lmao I'm not surprised Sha, some people are even the devil fans and support him to destroy the world

.....

When Messi former teammates chose Messi they say he's biased.

When penaldo former teammates choose Messi, they say he's jealous.

Penaldo fans are the stupidest

C.Ronaldo is not more handsome than David Beckham

If we tell them, them go dey argue....

Messi is superior to Ronaldo

Just like saying chidinma ekuke (Ronaldo) is on the same level with (Beyonce)

How is dt possible??

Ronaldo is a frustrated he-goat. He gat no class no levels lacks maturity

But king Messi, the chief slayer... The master of soccer, Alien of soccer, god of soccer

The Krishna of football.

All hail king Messi.
Let slaves like Ronaldo respect the king.

Oba alayeluwa Messi


I dedicate this comment to petyprincess Froshloaded and damnn nigarr slawormir Wayray omo

you no won chop ban.you rush go delete your account.we see you.as for slawormir.his case is still damn nigarr

ignis:
That is his personal opinion.

Let Messi leave Spanish League and come and perform in Premier League let me see.

Messi has nothing to prove to u, how much do u pay him from weekly?. Jezzz, just accept he's a genius, he has over the years played against the so called big teams in England in cup competitions, scoring 22 goals in 30 games aginst English sides, is it teams like West Ham he won't brush aside?...Both Messi and Ronaldo are living legends!...

Sincerely its obvious that Messi is a way better to Ronaldo

tonididdy:

What football do you watch?
Messi attitude problems?

"He seems to" . That's of recent though, he picks up fights with people these days.

Say no more

guru90:
Will Messi die for Barca?

I want him to change club so that we will see his performance.

Olusola101990:
...his yet to perform in juve sir

Someone that has scored 42 goals and 15 assists in 55 matches??

Someone that won serieA and Copa Italia?

Someone that won serieA best player, and Juventus best player?

U killed it

MrCuteking:
No argument here. Even when watching Messi play, if the defenders are not up to two or three, you already know something must happen. Every coach playing against Messi know this.

For Ronaldo, if you really want to stop him, you don't need two players, just focus on his teammates, even any average player can mark him. However, he is a goal porcher. I see Ronaldo as a player who is just working so hard to equal himself with one talented player called Messi who doesn't even care.

Those saying Messi should go to another club are jokes, does going to another club take away your talent?
It does for players who are tensed but not for mad talent like Messi

How can someone compare only a laliga champion to an EPL, a laliga and a serieA champion?

Before you call Ibrahimovic here, remember Ibrahimovic was just a squad player like Pedro, he didn't win any best player awards in those clubs except for PSG

Jokerman:
Lolssss

I have said this time without number...

We all know the conspiracy against Ronaldo, shebi that's why he was denied the 6th ballondor

However since Pele( �) goes with Cr7, his opinion carries more weight than any player on earth

Senile Pele? The hateful Brazilian? Abeg next

Messi single handedly qualified Argentina to 2014 and 2018 world cup,even took them to the finals of d first.
Browse up

ignis:


Oga why is Messi in Argentina different from Messi in Barcelona ?

C Ronaldo single handedly qualified Portugal for the last world cup.

chiboy1116:
the same Pele that said Messi is the only player as talented as him? The same Pele that said Messi is the best player of his generation? Dude that man's opinion doesn't count , he doesn't even know what he says most times . Watch him label Messi as the best player next year lmao.

Lols bros you know the man. I feel its old age shar