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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by YoungPerson(m): 12:28pm On Apr 22, 2020
autofreak2020:
You see, from economic perspective nuclear energy is the big deal, but its management is challenging. It is even more risky in countries with poor maintenance culture and unstable government policies.

Previous corruption is the reason why our power supply is having problems, and it effect is that we don't have enough to drive the economy.

Nuclear power plant is unforgiving, if you allow corruption to affect the plant, it will not only shut down to destroy the economy, people will be destroyed.

But if we allow private sector to pioneer it with strict policy, it has better chance of improved efficiency.

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Lol. We have a growing terrorist organization that is world renowned. The same bastard politicians sponsoring them will bring expats to weaponize it. Next thing you know, the next World war is initiated in Mother Africa.

We're not ready for it yet.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nukilia: 12:29pm On Apr 22, 2020
Staphylococcus:

Do you always read what you composing and factor to subject being discussed?
Now you mentioning technologies that are still in developmental stages with unfound reliability.
You idea will only compound our problems as the county will just be used for a test ground. Nuclear has delivered in many countries and proven to be safe, efficient and reliable.
Hello, if we must meet our national demand with all proven techs available, Nuclear is the way to go.
Gbam!

I think folks like you who believe in the viability of nuclear technology should work together with other groups so that we can together rescue Nigeria from the epilepsy in power supply and economic retrogression.
#LikeMinds
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Reference(m): 12:30pm On Apr 22, 2020
dejt4u:
people are less informed about how nuclear power plants work. They are just afraid of the risk involved without weighing the benefits. Even, there are numerous risks associated with electricity generally and we are still coping with it. Nigeria will surely cope with a few nuclear plants

It is understandable. When they see their local 'Discolite' climb poles and pylons without an iota of safety protocols and leave transformers dangeruosly exposed they are scared.

I too will be scared if I thought Peace Mass Transit and Peace Air were one and the same and those daredevil drivers will eventually find themselves in the cockpit of a Boeing 767 bound for Dubai.

Yes, we are notorious for carelessness, impunity, nepotism and every social malaise under the sun that should ordinarily make nuclear power plants dreaded propositions but aircraft simply donot crash at higher frequencies in Nigeria than in nations with nuclear power plants which says our habits are not insurmountable.

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by gevans(m): 12:30pm On Apr 22, 2020
benji93:
At the moment, No. Nigeria especially. I am afraid, we are not capable of managing such a system especially the by/waste products. We cannot handle a potential nuclear fallout. At least not until we start caring genuinely about each other's welfare. If we embark on such an endeavor, Ithe first phase would involve the development of human resources. We may have to send students to study different aspects of Nuclear power, over a given period of time. Now, in the light of sending students, there has to be a team Nigerian expert on Nuclear energy, providing advisory functions on how to develop human resource with all important aspects of Nuclear energy in consideration. Following this, we would have to create an institution that would be equipped to train personnel to develop and manage our Nuclear power generation systems. At the moment I know of no single renowned Nigerian expert on Nuclear power generation. So if we would like to venture into nuclear energy generation 30/40 years from now, the federal government can specifically create a board that oversees the funding of students who would like to pursue postgraduate work in Nuclear Energy for a span of 15/20 years. However, given the cruelty of our leaders, creating such a board is an avenue for embezzlement. Our current crop of leaders is unapologetically corrupt. Let's hope we can phase them out, as we usher in a more moderately corrupt generation of leaders. The key phrase is generation of leaders not leader. Although it has to begin with that one leader, that will spearhead a revolution in which those potential leaders with some restraint will start considering getting into politics. At the moment, you cannot trust our leaders to effectively execute the first phase, which would require continuity. I wouldn't even bother mentioning the other phases. It's a waste of time for Now. By the way, I would think there are other safer alternatives like wind and solar energy we can consider, although the latter would be really expensive. But I suppose it's not something we would do in a month, perhaps we can spread it over 3/4 years.

Do you know that nuclear power plant fuel is now renewable?

You don't need to be afraid, let us adopt it if truly we want an industrial revolution.
Nuclear power plant has 92% efficiency, while the conventional power plant are less than 57%, what does that tell u?


God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nukilia: 12:30pm On Apr 22, 2020
YoungPerson:

Lol. We have a growing terrorist organization that is world renowned. The same bastard politicians sponsoring them will bring expats to weaponize it. Next thing you know, the next World war is initiated in Mother Africa.
We're not ready for it yet.

If we are not ready for it, then we do not deserve to fly aircrafts grin grin. Aircrafts has claimed more lives than nuclear plants, but we are still comfortable flying in it despite the hazard associated with it.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Sydney1995(m): 12:31pm On Apr 22, 2020
Bruv I have nothing to prove to u man.
90% of all nuc waste are low to intermediate level radioactive waste meaning they have a short half life. This ain't about providing u with info source. I work in this industry so I know what am saying. If u want prove inbox me x
Actually Nigeria ain't which I think we all know but a few African countries are on their way to adopting nuc - SA already have one, Rwanda is in the process I believe



benji93:
Short half-life? How short? We are still talking about decades here. I doubt you are an expert on the subject man. Did you say 90%? Can you provide the source of this information? The concerns of the media is well-placed. Nigeria and Africa at large is not ready for nuclear power.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 22, 2020
donnie:


So you're comparing Nigeria and France? Have we finished distribution electricity effectively?

Read my comment again, but this time slowly. Did mention any African country in particular?
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by dejt4u(m): 12:33pm On Apr 22, 2020
Reference:


It is understandable. When they see their local 'Discolite' climb poles and pylons without an iota of safety protocols and leave transformers dangeruosly exposed they are scared.

I too will be scared if I thought Peace Mass Transit and Peace Air were one and the same and those daredevil drivers will eventually find themselves in the cockpit of a Boeing 767 bound for Dubai.

Yes, we are notorious for carelessness, impunity, nepotism and every social malaise under the sun that should ordinarily make nuclear power plants dreaded propositions but aircraft simply donot crash at higher frequencies in Nigeria than in nations with nuclear power plants which says our habits are not insurmountable.
spot on bro.. You're very right
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by ogalandlord: 12:33pm On Apr 22, 2020
Gerrard59:


Nuclear energy is another type of renewable energy.

Yes but i mean solar and wind energy is more preferable
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by mrphysics(m): 12:34pm On Apr 22, 2020
kikero:


Chief I like your answers on this thread.

However, on Chernobyl, as this sauce puts it



There is even the allegation that the personnel were carrying out an 'unapproved experiment with the machinery' ie having fun by seeing how fast the reactor could go or something like that.

Yeah but without the flood caused by Tsunami and the Civil Engineering construction problem, such wouldn't have occurred. And After the chernobyl accident, a lot has been done to improve their reactor safety.


When we learned of the reactor power and operation, it was fun seeing how we can manipulate the reactor power. I can't wait for the reactor simulation course to simulate it.

So I understand when operators are trying out some things during reactor operation. Let me say it's common anyway.

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Gerrard59(m): 12:35pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:

A country's energy mix cannot consist of one source. It's usually a mix of Fossil fuel, solar, nuclear, hydro and other renewals in varying proportions. Most countries are reducing their percentages of fossil fuels and increasing solar and other renewables

Please be specific when you say "most countries". Are these countries rich and industrial? Are they in the G-20? Which industrialised country do you know that generates at least 50% of her electricity from solar, wind and other "woke" renewable sources?
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Supersymetry: 12:38pm On Apr 22, 2020
Staphylococcus:


Do you always read what you composing and factor to subject being discussed?

Now you mentioning technologies that are still in developmental stages with unfound reliability.

You idea will only compound our problems as the county will just be used for a test ground. Nuclear has delivered in many countries and proven to be safe, efficient and reliable.

Hello, if we must meet our national demand with all proven techs available, Nuclear is the way to go.

Gbam!
I can now say you have comprehension problem.
The only thing still in development is quantum dot solar cells, not crystalline silicon solar cells which can deliver in Gigawatts now, and what stops Africa from developing it are u afraid of doing scientific research,African mentality you're only a final consumer.
if Africans love nuclear so much they should follow others in nuclear fusion research not looking for abandoned technologies to use.
Solar technology is broad and diverse with more potential than nuclear fission,
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Staphylococcus: 12:39pm On Apr 22, 2020
Nukilia:


I think folks like you who believe in the viability of nuclear technology should work together with other groups so that we can together rescue Nigeria from the epilepsy in power supply and economic retrogression.
#LikeMinds

Who am I in the puzzle? Everything boils down to leadership. This leaders know what's right. Don't think they don't have an idea about what's being discussed. They do. If they want to get things done, they will, but corruption and sabotage will never make that happen if the electorates keep making same mistakes.

Nest election now, they will still be routing for the same people killing them.

Let me tell you the truth. Though is my personal opinion which I have a right to. And my conusion is not based on mere belief or hearsay as I can always buttress and defend opinion.

Nigeria is doomed!

A generation needs to be wiped off before that country can have a second chance, which is impossible. So it will continue to be that way.

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Gerrard59(m): 12:39pm On Apr 22, 2020
ogalandlord:


Yes but i mean solar and wind energy is more preferable

Nigeria - Africa's most populated and biggest economy - needs to industrialise her economy to provide jobs and a high standard of living for her people. As a result, she needs an energy solution that provides enormous gigawatt of electricity at lower prices. This is because there's no country that her economy is industrialised, rich and powerful that did so using energy generated from wind and solar. None exists globally! It's preferable doesn't mean it's the best or even feasible considering the need for economic development.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by gevans(m): 12:42pm On Apr 22, 2020
YoungPerson:

Lol. We have a growing terrorist organization that is world renowned. The same bastard politicians sponsoring them will bring expats to weaponize it. Next thing you know, the next World war is initiated in Mother Africa.

We're not ready for it yet.
.Smiles! South Africa has nuclear power plant.
SA has a population of 57.8m and generate 51,000MW of electricity, Nigeria has a population of 200m and generate 4,000MW of electricity. I don't want to mention advanced countries. is that embarrassing? How can you industrialize without electricity. are u not tired of seeing generators everywhere including NEPA offices? That's air, sound and environmental pollution.
Nuclear here we come.



God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Dollabiz: 12:43pm On Apr 22, 2020
for what
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Sheriman(m): 12:45pm On Apr 22, 2020
Fidelismaria:


I wonder what people mean when they say we're not ready yet?

Community policing
we're not ready yet


Restructuring
we're not ready yet


New constitution
we're not ready yet



what exactly is Nigeria ready for?














Nigeria is only ready for corruption. Always Available 24/7

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by nsiba: 12:45pm On Apr 22, 2020
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Staphylococcus: 12:47pm On Apr 22, 2020
Supersymetry:

I can now say you have comprehension problem.
The only thing still in development is quantum dot solar cells, not crystalline silicon solar cells which can deliver in Gigawatts now, and what stops Africa from developing it are u afraid of doing scientific research,African mentality you're only a final consumer

Hello, Solar has never been a major source of lower generation in any Nation that can be compared to Nigeria. The tech is an add-on in any country and its damn expensive.

With regards to the case of Nigeria, it can't work, cos we far off from what is required and we need a tested and proven tech to get us there.

Nuclear energy as it stands today is the most reliable and efficient tech in power generation. That can't be taken away. Advancement has made it very safe.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Supersymetry: 12:48pm On Apr 22, 2020
Nuclear fission energy is not even renewable.
We should focus on renewable energy.

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by dallyemmy: 12:48pm On Apr 22, 2020
NOT READY TO BECOME A NATION YET. IT IS JUST A SOCIAL GATHERING...
Fidelismaria:


I wonder what people mean when they say we're not ready yet?

Community policing
we're not ready yet


Restructuring
we're not ready yet


New constitution
we're not ready yet



what exactly is Nigeria ready for?














Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Opperwezen(m): 12:50pm On Apr 22, 2020
mrvitalis:


Oga how much would it cost and where would the money come from
If i could dislike your post me i would, it has been talked about on here that we should refrain from quoting the poster especially when its a very long post like this, make your contribution and get going, if everyone decides to quote the poster like, how would people with keypad phones enjoy navigating the website? You can try using a keypad phone so you understand
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Supersymetry: 12:58pm On Apr 22, 2020
Staphylococcus:


Hello, Solar has never been a major source of lower generation in any Nation that can be compared to Nigeria. The tech is an add-on in any country and its damn expensive.

With regards to the case of Nigeria, it can't work, cos we far off from what is required and we need a tested and proven tech to get us there.

Nuclear energy as it stands today is the most reliable and efficient tech in power generation. That can't be taken away. Advancement has made it very safe.
I have a question for you.
Do you know that the food you eat come from solar energy perhaps your house, car etc
Or do you know the amount of energy the sun delivers to Earth every day.
Do you know that nuclear fission energy is not renewable, though it doesn't affect CO2 level, but it is not good to the environment

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by AerialMapper: 12:58pm On Apr 22, 2020
Privatized ... yes

Government owned... a big No

You cannot skimp on maintenance or processes! One error and poor maintenance will be a disaster
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Premiumwriter: 1:00pm On Apr 22, 2020
mhiztee15:
Yes lipsrsealed
Wait first let me go and find something to eat grin grin grin
I dey come kiss
you still never find wetin to chop?
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by KLand(m): 1:01pm On Apr 22, 2020
Anything to bring Africa out of perpetual darkness is okay.

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by benji93: 1:05pm On Apr 22, 2020
I didn't ask for proof. Just a source. Are you the first to come up which such a stat? Based on your post I can't help myself but assume you are not a researcher. You work in the industry, so provide a source. Are you developing your own nuclear systems? You expect me to trust your word? You could just say, refer to the so so paper or so so preprint or so so manuscript.
Sydney1995:
Bruv I have nothing to prove to u man.
90% of all nuc waste are low to intermediate level radioactive waste meaning they have a short half life. This ain't about providing u with info source. I work in this industry so I know what am saying. If u want prove inbox me x
Actually Nigeria ain't which I think we all know but a few African countries are on their way to adopting nuc - SA already have one, Rwanda is in the process I believe



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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nukilia: 1:13pm On Apr 22, 2020
Staphylococcus:


Who am I in the puzzle? Everything boils down to leadership. This leaders know what's right. Don't think they don't have an idea about what's being discussed. They do. If they want to get things done, they will, but corruption and sabotage will never make that happen if the electorates keep making same mistakes.
Nest election now, they will still be routing for the same people killing them.
Let me tell you the truth. Though is my personal opinion which I have a right to. And my conusion is not based on mere belief or hearsay as I can always buttress and defend opinion.
Nigeria is doomed!
A generation needs to be wiped off before that country can have a second chance, which is impossible. So it will continue to be that way.

We can't take the head of the shoulders because of headache.... grin

The nation might not be doomed yet, let's hope we can salvage the wreck someday
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Nobody: 1:13pm On Apr 22, 2020
mrphysics:


grin grin

It could be very scary watching a nuclear accident. However, even the accident is not anything closer to the risk of living in Nigeria grin grin not to talk of the Covid-19.
really??

From what I've seen so far, nuclear accidents seem more serious than both combined..

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Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Staphylococcus: 1:13pm On Apr 22, 2020
Supersymetry:

I have a question for you.
Do you know that the food you eat come from solar energy perhaps your house, car etc
Or do you know the amount of energy the sun delivers to Earth every day.
Do you know that nuclear fission energy is not renewable, though it doesn't affect CO2 level, but it is not good to the environment

Nigeria's demand cannot be met by solar. It's far too expensive and considering our demand, it's out of the picture.

It's an unreliable and bulky tech.

Nuclear waste are well handled now and same time less radioctive. Things have changed in this era. The tech is now certified.
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by Opperwezen(m): 1:14pm On Apr 22, 2020
Too bad my post gets to be seen on the 7th page, all i want to say to everyone who says Nigeria isnt ready is, had it been Africa was populated by naysayers like yourselves then we would probably still be under the chains of colonialism till this day
Re: Should Africa Consider The Nuclear Energy Route? by goodmanEU: 1:15pm On Apr 22, 2020
Nigeria is ready and achieve nuckear power plant but only if we have the right leaders and citizens with conscience.

Only in Nigeria will government workers be rich while their office is vegetative.

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