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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Ank(m): 5:28pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


So do you know any coward who fights a 3 year war of independence against a much larger opponent? Cowards do not fight at all. Anyone who is brave enough to fight someone or something mush greater than him is no coward.

Ojukwu surrendering personally so that Nigerian troops can do whatever they liked with him from shooting him dead to publicly torturing him or detaining him(if he was lucky) is something that only a very foolish person would do

Who in their right minds would offer themselves to their enemy on a platter of gold to prove bravery when they have an escape route? Only a complete idiot would do that and Ojukwu wasnt one
why are you even waisting your time replying to these fools. They are pained because he was not captured alive and made caricature of before being killed. Ask them about Onwuatuegwu and what
happened to him...

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 5:31pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:


A general never abandons his troops in the heat of battle, that's the classic definition of cowardice. What happens if your enemy decides to slaughter your troops and your people who you purport to be protecting.
The Nigerian civil war was not the first civil war in modern times, but it is the only war the general commanding a side ran away in the heat of battle. During the US civil war, Robert Lee who was the president of the south and the general that commanded the southern army personally surrounded and negotiated the terms of the surrender, he did not run away because of fear for his life.

If we are to even accepted your warped history that Awolowo commited suicide, then that is far more bravery than running away. If IBB wanted to kill him and Awo decided to commit suicide rather than be killed or humiliated, that is an act of bravery. History had it that cleopatra of Egypt choose to commit suicide that allow herself to be captured by Octavian, and be humiliated. She is celebrated for that act of bravery till today.

A general that is afraid to die is not worth to be called a General.

You have written like a typical Yari.ba and one who has not seen a parade ground in his/her freaking life. There is tactical withdrawal or retreat in military strategy. Since Afonja, the general of Yari.ba land goofed, all places from Offa to Minna, Niger State belonged to Caliphate.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by LarryBee1k: 5:32pm On Apr 22, 2020
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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by ProT: 5:36pm On Apr 22, 2020
LarryBee1k:


Get a history book.

grin grin
So ur "hIsToRy BoOk" told u "aLl IgBo OfFiCeR pLaNnEd" the first coup?

Some hIsToRy BoOk!
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by nku5: 5:39pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


So do you know any coward who fights a 3 year war of independence against a much larger opponent? Cowards do not fight at all. Anyone who is brave enough to fight someone or something mush greater than him is no coward.

Ojukwu surrendering personally so that Nigerian troops can do whatever they liked with him from shooting him dead to publicly torturing him or detaining him(if he was lucky) is something that only a very foolish person would do

Who in their right minds would offer themselves to their enemy on a platter of gold to prove bravery when they have an escape route? Only a complete idiot would do that and Ojukwu wasnt one

Abeg no mind these jokers. Have they seen war before? Small shakara by Major Al Mustapha and almost all their leaders fled to exile and hid until Abacha died. Tinubu that escaped into cotonou in the middle of the night dressed like a mad man grin

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 5:41pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:

Which law mandated the Chiefs and heads of all the provinces to be able to declare independence? Which law gave Ojukwu powers to call all Chiefs and heads of all the provinces?


Do the process legislative powers?

Believe me lord Lugard's action was far more legitimate than Ojukwu's action. Lord Lugard had the mandate to amalgamate the northern and southern protectorates, because we had be conquered by the British and therefore submitted our sovereignty to the British crown. And lord Lugard was appointed by the Crown.

Now tell me what give Ojukwu the legitimacy to call the Chiefs and heads of all the provinces in Eastern Nigeria to discuss secession, when he himself was just an appointee of the head of state and not a sovereign?

Lt. Col. Emeka Ojukwu was the regional governor of the defunct eastern region of Nigeria. All statutory regulations in 1960 and 1963 Nigerian constitution as well as decrees granted Ojukwu the right to call bluff. Gowon was nothing yet he destroyed Nigerian federalism by dividing Nigeria into states. In your figment of imagination, have you asked what gave Gowon right to divide Nigeria into states when did not have control of all the regions in federation?

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by helinues: 5:44pm On Apr 22, 2020
Covidodo:


Ojukwu sacrificed 3 million of his people to the gods .
I have never seen such before . A war general running away in the middle of the war he started .

Ojukwu should have drank sniper instead . Even Adolf Hitler didn't run away after losing the war . The Japanese emperor too faced death like a man .

OJUKWU IS A BLOODY COWARD FROM A LINEAGE OF WRAPPER TYING EFFEMINATE LOSERS .

Usain Bolt should handover his world record to Ojukwu post humosly abeg

You people get bad mouth walahi..See as how you finished Yan.miri

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 5:55pm On Apr 22, 2020
LarryBee1k:


Victim mentality ===> ON

Biafrans were supported by

France
China
Germany West Germany
Israel Israel (after 1968)
Portugal
Spain Spain
South Africa
Rhodesia
Haiti
Gabon
Ivory Coast
Tanzania
Czechoslovakia



You must be on very cheap grass. France never supported Biafra. China was even the second country, after Britain, to support Nigeria. Only a dingbat will list Israel as supporter of Biafra when Israel was either fighting the Arab's army in 1967 or recuperating from the vicious war with Arabs countries. South Africa never supported Biafra due to Nelson Mandela's saga with Azikiwe and eastern region of Nigeria. Spain and Portugal never supported Biafra but did not stop their nationals to render help to Biafra. Haiti, Gabon, Ivory Coast, Tanzania and Zambia (what you called Rhodesia) recognized Biafra but did not have what it takes to support Biafra militarily or otherwise. Why would any reasonable fellow waste time with you when, in fact, you cannot differentiate an independent country such as Zambia from Rhodesia? What a Nigerian. I guess you are making the phrase "Nigeria is a basket of fools" looks truer than ever.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by wirinet(m): 5:57pm On Apr 22, 2020
Dedetwo:


Lt. Col. Emeka Ojukwu was the regional governor of the defunct eastern region of Nigeria. All statutory regulations in 1960 and 1963 Nigerian constitution as well as decrees granted Ojukwu the right to call bluff. Gowon was nothing yet he destroyed Nigerian federalism by dividing Nigeria into states. In your figment of imagination, have you asked what gave Gowon right to divide Nigeria into states when did not have control of all the regions in federation?

I an confused as to whether you guys are truly ignorant or deliberately misleading. You are taking about a 1960 and 1963 Nigerian constitution that had been suspended by decree 34 of 1966, otherwise known as the unification decree.
Here is section 1 and 7.1 and of the decree


1. Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.


7. 1. As from the appointed day, the provisions of the Constitution of the Republic mentioned in Schedule 2 of this Decree shall be suspended.
https://dawodu.com/decree34.htm

Gowon was the head of state and commander of the Armed forces. He was the legislature and executive. He makes laws by decrees and implement them as the executive. That's the way military or authoritarian governments work.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by wirinet(m): 5:59pm On Apr 22, 2020
Dedetwo:


You have written like a typical Yari.ba and one who has not seen a parade ground in his/her freaking life. There is tactical withdrawal or retreat in military strategy. Since Afonja, the general of Yari.ba land goofed, all places from Offa to Mina, Niger State belonged to Caliphate.
Nothing person no go hear for nairaland. So running away and leaving your soldiers at the mercy of the enemy is now a tactical military strategy?

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by PentiumPro(f): 6:01pm On Apr 22, 2020
Dedetwo:


You need a handle of your self. With the pictures and Internet, you would not have seen a gun in your freaking sorry ass life.


Pa Dede.

Lonely Isolation in a London rundown shackle is affecting your brain

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by PentiumPro(f): 6:03pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


[s]Effiong was not public enemy no 1 like Ojukwu, Effiong was not even Igbo. It would have made no sense to kill Effiong, although Effiong was actually detained for a while.

No coward fights a 3 year war[/s]

Effiong was not Igbo, but Effiong was a Biafran and carried out killing of Nigerians just like Ojukwu.

Step giving various excuses for the cowardly Ojukwu

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by PentiumPro(f): 6:04pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


[s]So do you know any coward who fights a 3 year war of independence against a much larger opponent? Cowards do not fight at all. Anyone who is brave enough to fight someone or something mush greater than him is no coward.

Ojukwu surrendering personally so that Nigerian troops can do whatever they liked with him from shooting him dead to publicly torturing him or detaining him(if he was lucky) is something that only a very foolish person would do

Who in their right minds would offer themselves to their enemy on a platter of gold to prove bravery when they have an escape route? Only a complete idiot would do that and Ojukwu wasnt one[/s]

Nonsense Shalaye

Ojukwu died a coward

QED

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by LarryBee1k: 6:45pm On Apr 22, 2020
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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by LarryBee1k: 6:56pm On Apr 22, 2020
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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Eastlink(m): 6:59pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


So do you know any coward who fights a 3 year war of independence against a much larger opponent? Cowards do not fight at all. Anyone who is brave enough to fight someone or something mush greater than him is no coward.

Ojukwu surrendering personally so that Nigerian troops can do whatever they liked with him from shooting him dead to publicly torturing him or detaining him(if he was lucky) is something that only a very foolish person would do

Who in their right minds would offer themselves to their enemy on a platter of gold to prove bravery when they have an escape route? Only a complete idiot would do that and Ojukwu wasnt one
Many don’t understand the real meaning of the word ‘Coward’.
William Shakespeare gave the true definition of a coward. He said ‘Cowards die many times before their death’. Meaning a coward is never willing to fight, he looks for flimsy excuses to excuse himself from battle. Ojukwu fought with his blood and sweat.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by gidgiddy: 7:12pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:

Nothing person no go hear for nairaland. So running away and leaving your soldiers at the mercy of the enemy is now a tactical military strategy?

Ojukwu staying to be captured and killed would have hardly been a moral booster to Ojukwus men would it?

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by LarryBee1k: 7:40pm On Apr 22, 2020
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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by puremaker7(m): 7:59pm On Apr 22, 2020
Deepfeel:


You can't kill history my friend , you Yoruba's posses that cowardice nature its in the blood , even your culture shows it
those are kings now, in yorubas do respect their kings.
what do you call this?

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Eastlink(m): 8:07pm On Apr 22, 2020
Dedetwo:


You must be on very cheap grass. France never supported Biafra. China was even the second country, after Britain, to support Nigeria. Only a dingbat will list Israel as supporter of Biafra when Israel was either fighting the Arab's army in 1967 or recuperating from the vicious war with Arabs countries. South Africa never supported Biafra due to Nelson Mandela's saga with Azikiwe and eastern region of Nigeria. Spain and Portugal never supported Biafra but did not stop their nationals to render help to Biafra. Haiti, Gabon, Ivory Coast, Tanzania and Zambia (what you called Rhodesia) recognized Biafra but did not have what it takes to support Biafra militarily or otherwise. Why would any reasonable fellow waste time with you when, in fact, you cannot differentiate an independent country such as Zambia from Rhodesia? What a Nigerian. I guess you are making the phrase "Nigeria is a basket of fools" looks truer than ever.



You don’t need to quote these kids. They know nothing about global politics. They still haven’t realized that post-colonial Africa is a European creation to keep Africa shut behind Berlin drawn boundaries and underdeveloped.
The day African redraw their maps and take their destinies into their hands, only then will the black race be liberated.
Biafra was a threat to the west and they collided to crush it.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Eastlink(m): 8:09pm On Apr 22, 2020
gidgiddy:


Ojukwu staying to be captured and killed would have hardly been a moral booster to Ojukwus men would it?
My anger with you is that you’re always fascinated in bringing Biafran topics to be discussed and ridiculed in a site such as Nairaland. I don’t know how old you’re but I think you need to smell the coffee. You don’t discuss topics as this with kids.
Focus on twitter or Facebook, where you’ll find a much matured neo-colonialist crowd and not here where overgrown babies fool around.
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 8:36pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:

I don't even have the strength to continue arguing senselessly.
Gowon planned a coup and succeeded, so he naturally became the head of state of the whole country. Ojukwu was appointed by the last coupist ( Ironsi who had been murdered). Eastern region was not a sovereign state, even though Ojukwu felt it was and he was head of state of eastern region.

I don't understand you arguing both ways. First you said "there exist no legislative nonsense in the military" which implies that Ojukwu could act without taking permission or authority from anybody, then you argue that Ojukwu Ojukwu summoned the provincial heads and Chiefs of the Eastern region to take a deciding on secession - meaning it decision to declare secession was not Ojukwu's. So which is it?

Gowon as head of state could appoint anyone into his cabinet, but the final decisions rests with him, and he took responsible for everything.

Are you writing about the same Gowon who said he never new where and when the coup was planned? Yari.ba peeps are known to say anything regardless how outlandish such crap could look to be happy. What could not come from a group of people who could not even cough when their son was killed in Ibadan only to turn around and informed undiscerning onlookers how their son stood up and proclaimed to die with his friend and boss. What goofy set of people.
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 8:43pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:


I an confused as to whether you guys are truly ignorant or deliberately misleading. You are taking about a 1960 and 1963 Nigerian constitution that had been suspended by decree 34 of 1966, otherwise known as the unification decree.
Here is section 1 and 7.1 and of the decree


Gowon was the head of state and commander of the Armed forces. He was the legislature and executive. He makes laws by decrees and implement them as the executive. That's the way military or authoritarian governments work.

This is one of the outstanding con job perpetrated by the loudmouths. Decree 34 has nothing to do with suspension of the constitution or abolishment of the region. It was about the unification of civil service which ironically is still used till today. Decree 34 simply eliminated local authority where the Emirs and their stooges reign supreme.
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 8:49pm On Apr 22, 2020
Area4Area:
It's still foolishness, going to a war with no allies, no food security, not enough ammunitions but relying on goodwill and luck to defeat a larger, better equipped side with allies and expecting victory.

By the end of 1968, he's lost a very vast part of Biafra to the Nigerian side, lost the only university town Nsukka, capital Enugu, Akwa-Cross, Onitsha old Rivers including PH, Aba, Calabar etc, he was surrounded by Nigerian forces but still went on foolishly fighting for another 2 years leading to more deaths and destruction.

There is one thing that is very clear before God and man, Yari.ba cannot challenge Nigeria for a fight.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 8:54pm On Apr 22, 2020
Covidodo:

If Tinubu was a military General and ran away in the middle of a war he started , then he would have been called a coward .

Stop comparing Apples and oranges Abeg ..

Imagine comparing civilians with a Military general .

Why then did Ojukwu join the military if he would be later compared with a civilian ??

Ojukwu would have been better off selling Okpa at Ochanja market than joining the military then

You claimed you won the war for Nigeria yet a Yari.ba general was on his knees crying and begging a mere Major relatively his junior to save him. Today in Nigeria, the so-called brave people are relegated to doormen. I had rather be any Igbo man, even in defeat, where every dumbass Nigerian knows my stand than a loudmouth who has been declared irrelevant.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 8:56pm On Apr 22, 2020
LarryBee1k:

Gibberish nonsense! You can't even compose yourself without using foul language. I won't say more than this.

Read a book.


I will not read you if you are a book. You must be a book of low intellectual material that cannot differentiate between independent African nation from the one under British rule. Zambia, formerly known as Northern Rhodesia, became independent state in 1964. I will not even read a book recommended by intellectual midget such as you. Nigeria is not bad but people such as you make Nigeria looks stupid and wretched.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 9:18pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:


I an confused as to whether you guys are truly ignorant or deliberately misleading. You are taking about a 1960 and 1963 Nigerian constitution that had been suspended by decree 34 of 1966, otherwise known as the unification decree.
Here is section 1 and 7.1 and of the decree


Gowon was the head of state and commander of the Armed forces. He was the legislature and executive. He makes laws by decrees and implement them as the executive. That's the way military or authoritarian governments work.

This one of the reasons Nigeria is called shithole. Most of its citizens cannot separate reality from silly imagination. The so-called commander of the armed forces of Nigeria yet could not visit eastern region and midwestern region until after the war. If Gowon was the authentic commander of the armed forces of the federal republic of Nigeria in 1966, he would at least paid a state visit to Enugu the capital of eastern region.
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 9:32pm On Apr 22, 2020
PentiumPro:


Nonsense Shalaye

Ojukwu died a coward

QED

At least, he stood up for his people to be counted. No Yari.ba will ever take the stance as Ojukwu did. Rather they will scamper to Porto Novo.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by wirinet(m): 9:33pm On Apr 22, 2020
Dedetwo:


This is one of the outstanding con job perpetrated by the loudmouths. Decree 34 has nothing to do with suspension of the constitution or abolishment of the region. It was about the unification of civil service which ironically is still used till today. Decree 34 simply eliminated local authority where the Emirs and their stooges reign supreme.
I must be discussing with a mindless bot. Read the link to decree 34 I posted and read aloud section 1 and 7.1 which is earlier quoted for those whose browsers cannot follow links.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by solmus: 9:48pm On Apr 22, 2020
grin


lol
Ndi Cowards, Ndi conquered, Ndi Marginalised fools trying to change their embarrassing history


.

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Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by Dedetwo(m): 9:57pm On Apr 22, 2020
wirinet:

I must be discussing with a mindless bot. Read the link to decree 34 I posted and read aloud section 1 and 7.1 which is earlier quoted for those whose browsers cannot follow links.

Most Nigerians are funny indeed. Did you expect me to chase a link you recommended? Decree 34 was unification of civil service in Nigeria and had nothing to do with regional government. It must be plain stupidity on the part of Ironsi to abolish regionalism with Decree 34 yet appoint regional governors. Unification decree, thus, 34 sought to formalize civil service in Nigeria where level 14 in Enugu is equally level 14 in Kano or Kaduna. However the Emirs and northerners assumed it was a hidden agenda to have educated easterners take over the country.
Re: Seven Lies The Nigerian Media Have Been Telling Against Ojukwu For 50 Years by gidgiddy: 10:19pm On Apr 22, 2020
Eastlink:
My anger with you is that you’re always fascinated in bringing Biafran topics to be discussed and ridiculed in a site such as Nairaland. I don’t know how old you’re but I think you need to smell the coffee. You don’t discuss topics as this with kids.
Focus on twitter or Facebook, where you’ll find a much matured neo-colonialist crowd and not here where overgrown babies fool around.

Who cares who ridicules Biafra? They are entitled to their opinion same as anyone else, even if their opinion is based on childish reasoning.

The aim some of these threads is to pass on information to those who may not have it. If in the process some people decide to turn the information on its head and act like kids, then so be it, thats the way of the world

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