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freshboi88:
Show me the verse that says God created Jesus and created other things after that


No, I didn't see explain the correlation

you did not see the corration? go and read bible in your mother tongue.

joyandfaith:
you did not see the corration? go and read bible in your mother tongue.

Savage! he lacks comprehension lols

joyandfaith:
you did not see the corration? go and read bible in your mother tongue.

The onus is on u to show me and reconcile Col 1:16 and John 1:4 as well as 1 cor 16:45 with Ur lies that God created Jesus first.

U made a failed attempt by quoting proverbs which I said it has no relationship with Jesus. I asked u to show me where proverbs 8 mentioned Jesus, You couldn't because it's not there.

The purpose of the thread is for u to explain how Jesus who the bible said everything was made in him, through him and for him was created.

Did he make himself?...........

freshboi88:
The onus is on u to show me and reconcile Col 1:16 and John 1:4 as well as 1 cor 16:45 with Ur lies that God created Jesus first.

U made a failed attempt by quoting proverbs which I said it has no relationship with Jesus. I asked u to show me where proverbs 8 mentioned Jesus, You couldn't because it's not there.

The purpose of the thread is for u to explain how Jesus who the bible said everything was made in him, through him and for him was created.

Did he make himself?...........

Through the Father too , u forgot ? Let me remind you. Through the Father showed the Father dont need Jesus to make Jesus , he can make things through himself.

More punch: all things came FROM the Father as well, including Jesus. That's why Jesus is a son and Gods property

joyandfaith:
which native language do you speak. you need to read col 1:15,16 in your native language. jesus is firstborn of creation. God used him to create other beings. you can harmonize col 1, prov 8: and rev 3;14. your explanation has not able to harmonize all the verses. try to do that.

I thought u had sense, but it's obvious u are intellectually barren. Use Ur God given brain for once in your life.

God used him to create other beings. Show me the verse in the bible that says this.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

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Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and [b]for him.

Now use ur God given sense and look at the bolded.

Since Ur academically inept lemme come to your level and ask u elementary questions,

In english language does b]all things[/b] exclude anything?.....

freshboi88:
The onus is on u to show me and reconcile Col 1:16 and John 1:4 as well as 1 cor 16:45 with Ur lies that God created Jesus first.

U made a failed attempt by quoting proverbs which I said it has no relationship with Jesus. I asked u to show me where proverbs 8 mentioned Jesus, You couldn't because it's not there.

The purpose of the thread is for u to explain how Jesus who the bible said everything was made in him, through him and for him was created.

Did he make himself?...........

if you cannot understand simple bible verses and harmonize them together you have go and read bible in your mother tongue.

CANTICLES:
Begotten means brought into existence .. And The Father dont need Jesus to make Jesus . The Father made Jesus Through himself. Heb 2:10

You are shouting God need Jesus to make Jesus , forgetting that the bible explains that someone was made through the Father too . whoooooooooo ? ? The big Question

U have not provided the verse that shows that God made Jesus through himself. In the whole of the bible not one verse to support that claim.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.

Now use ur God given sense and look at the bolded.

Since Ur academically inept lemme come to your level and ask u elementary questions,

In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

freshboi88:
I thought u had sense, but it's obvious u are intellectually barren. Use Ur God given brain for once in your life.

God used him to create other beings. Show me the verse in the bible that says this.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and [b]for him.

Now use ur God given sense and look at the bolded.

Since Ur academically inept lemme come to your level and ask u elementary questions,

In english language does b]all things[/b] exclude anything?.....

if you have any sense, harmonize pr 8, rev 3 and col 1. if you cannot harmonize them, sorry is your case.

CANTICLES:
Yeah , All things that was made by the Father . that's why Jesus BELONG to the Father .


You would have made sense if the bible didn't say the Someone passed through the Father.

Hebrews 2:10

" It was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering as part of his plan to glorify many children,


Someone passed through the Father remember ?

Freshboi88 , the only problem you have now is identify what passed through the Father , for something to pass through the Father it means what passed through the Father needed no Jesus to be made. It was made and Through the Father himself [ NOT Through Jesus ]

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If God every thing was made through Jesus and another verse says everything was made through God. It only conirms that Jesus is God. The bible is very clear on who everything was made through.


God used him to create other beings. Show me the verse in the bible that says this.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.


In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

Janosky:
Freshboi88 FALSELY claimed the 4 Evidences from his own Bible are LIES...

*6 Bible based questions Freshboi DODGED and ran away from...

Freshboi88 enjoy your LIES , Your PERPETUAL SELF DECEPTION & SELECTIVE AMNESIA..
Confirmed Enemy of Jesus Christ.
Congratulations..

U r running around like a headless chicken. I have already dismissed all this your failed evidences.

Not one point to Jesus as created.

Why is Jesus called a Life-Giving Spirit in 1 cor 16:45?

freshboi88:
U have not provided the verse that shows that God made Jesus through himself. In the whole of the bible not one verse to support that claim.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.

Now use ur God given sense and look at the bolded.

Yebrews
Since Ur academically inept lemme come to your level and ask u elementary questions,

In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

Let me school you .

ALL things in the case of Jesus is relative to things that came THROUGH him.

Using your logic - ALL things came from the Father ( 1Cor 8:6) means Jesus too came from to Father . Read this again and again.

So its clear Jesus was created by the Father . he is part of the all things that came from the Father . but how asy he made ? The bible says Through the Father himself.

CANTICLES:
Let me school you .

ALL things in the case of Jesus is relative to things that came THROUGH him.

Using your logic - ALL things came from the Father ( 1Cor 8:6) means Jesus too came from to Father . Read this again and again.

So its clear Jesus was created by the Father . he is part of the all things that came from the Father . but how asy he made ? The bible says Through the Father himself.

New International Version
1 cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.


Hahahaha..u want to school me, what an insult!....Ur attempt to make sense with Ur post turns logic on its head.

This is not about logic, it's about the Word of God. Read it without applying ur own human logic to it.

U can say one thing a million times, it would never make it true.

If what u r saying is correct then that verse should read Jesus Christ through whom every "other thing " came and not "all things" . Do u think every other person is as daft as u have chosen to be.

This verse u have quoted doesn't show that Jesus is created, it shows that Jesus is God, Uncreated .

The same way everything came from the Father is the same way Everything came from the Son. So both Father and Son are originators, source of life. That is what the verse says. It works to my advantage.

Show me where it says every other thing was created through Jesus and I'll believe u

freshboi88:
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If God every thing was made through Jesus and another verse says everything was made through God. It only conirms that Jesus is God. The bible is very clear on who everything was made through.

Jesus is not the one mentioned at Hebrew 2:10. Read again, the person through whom all things came was making Jesus perfect in the verse . unless u mean there are two Jesus ? Freshboi88 u are a comedian

God used him to create other beings. Show me the verse in the bible that says this.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.


In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

All things for Jesus said exclude himself and his Father .

But when it says All things came from Tue Father ... Jesus included. So Jesus was created

freshboi88:
New International Version
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.


Hahahaha......Ur attempt to make sense with Ur post turns logic on its head.

U can say one thing a million times, it would never make it true.

If what u r saying is correct then that verse should read Jesus Christ through whom every "other thing " came and not "all things" . Do u think every other person is as daft as u have chosen to be.

This verse u have quoted doesn't show that Jesus is created, it shows that Jesus is God, Uncreated .

The same way everything came from the Father is the same way Everything came from the Son. So both Father and Son are originators, source of life. That is what the verse says. It works to my advantage.

Show me where it says every other thing was created through Jesus and I'll believe u

Is Jesus part of the all things that came from the Father .. ?

CANTICLES:
Is Jesus part of the all things that came from the Father .. ?

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No, there is no bible verse that supports that. If there is show me

and is the Father part of the all things that came from the Son?

CANTICLES:
Savage! he lacks comprehension lols

There is nothing savage about her reply, she only exposed her inability to keep up with the lies when faced with the truth.!

freshboi88:
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No, there is no bible verse that supports that. If there is show me

and is the Father part of the all things that came from the Son?

Colossians 3:23 Jesus Belong to God.

Why is Jesus his property ? Yeye

freshboi88:
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No, there is no bible verse that supports that. If there is show me

and is the Father part of the all things that came from the Son?

The bible never said all things came from the Son. U lied.

The Father is above all , all his sons including Jesus are made by him.

But when it says all things came through Jesus ( The Father and Jesus himself is not included )

U will never hear things like " Sons of Jesus " . IMPOSSIBLE. Because he is not the creator

But he was created too, So Jesus is our brother

CANTICLES:
The bible never said all things came from the Son. U lied.

The Father is above all , all his sons including Jesus are made by him.

But when it says all things came through Jesus ( The Father and Jesus himself is not included )

U will never hear things like " Sons of Jesus " . IMPOSSIBLE. Because he is not the creator

But he was created too, So Jesus is our brother

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

@ bolded Is the bible lying too?......I do not use logic, I speak what the Bible says.

CANTICLES:
Colossians 3:23 Jesus Belong to God.

Why is Jesus his property ? Yeye

This man said col 3:23 is Jesus belong to God. This people are subtracting and adding to scripture. That's not what col 3:23 says

Let me quote what it says:

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Col 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

Pls help me ask this man how that verse is the same as Jesus belong to God.

Jehovah Witness is just a gathering of people that lack intelligence, wisdom and understanding. They do so because they lack the Holy Spirit. Because if my pastor tells me this in my church, that col 3:23 says Jesus belongs to God. I'll challenge him and tell him that the verse doesn't say anything like that.

But people like canticle swallow it hook, line and sinker and even go as far as using it to display their ignorance online

freshboi88:
This man said col 3:23 is Jesus belong to God. This people are subtracting and adding to scripture. That's not what col 3:23 says

Let me quote what it says:

New International Version
Col 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

Pls help me ask this man how that verse is the same as Jesus belong to God.

Jehovah Witness is just a gathering of people that lack intelligence, wisdom and understanding. They do so because they lack the Holy Spirit. Because if my pastor tells me this in my church, that col 3:23 says Jesus belongs to God. I'll challenge him and tell him that the verse doesn't say anything like that.

But people like canticle swallow it hook, line and sinker and even go as far as using it to display their ignorance online

They lack
Intelligence
Wisdom
Understanding
Holy Spirit

But they're the one and only group that can unite people from all the nations under one umbrella in LOVE JOY and PEACE, whereas your own Church RCCG with all their Intelligence, Wisdom, Understanding and Holy Ghost failed woefully to produce LOVE, JOY and PEACE within them!

You sabi no be small Sir!

Maximus69:
They lack
Intelligence
Wisdom
Understanding
Holy Spirit

But they're the one and only group that can unite people from all the nations under one umbrella in LOVE JOY and PEACE, whereas your own Church RCCG with all their Intelligence, Wisdom, Understanding and Holy Ghost failed woefully to produce LOVE, JOY and PEACE within them!

You sabi no be small Sir!

Oh u r back from the wilderness. Ur brother @CANTICLES said col 3:23 is Jesus belongs to God. I have finished tht 1.shame will not allow him come back to this thread.

@CANTICLES brother col 3:23 Jesus belongs to God..... hahahaha....this guy will not kill me with laugh.

The bible says those who worship God do so in spirit and truth. U all sure lack the spirit and the truth

freshboi88:
This man said col 3:23 is Jesus belong to God. This people are subtracting and adding to scripture. That's not what col 3:23 says

Let me quote what it says:

New International Version
Col 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

Pls help me ask this man how that verse is the same as Jesus belong to God.

Jehovah Witness is just a gathering of people that lack intelligence, wisdom and understanding. They do so because they lack the Holy Spirit. Because if my pastor tells me this in my church, that col 3:23 says Jesus belongs to God. I'll challenge him and tell him that the verse doesn't say anything like that.

But people like canticle swallow it hook, line and sinker and even go as far as using it to display their ignorance online

The fact still remains Jesus is a property of The Father , just like everyone else. that's what the bible says , that I made a mistake in quote doesnt change it. I didn't know you are not so knowledgeable enough to know the bible said so.

1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Jesus is part of what Came from the Father . his properties that belong to him.

freshboi88:
Oh u r back from the wilderness. Ur brother @CANTICLES said col 3:23 is Jesus belongs to God. I have finished tht 1.shame will not allow him come back to this thread.

@CANTICLES brother col 3:23 Jesus belongs to God..... hahahaha....this guy will not kill me with laugh.

The bible says those who worship God do so in spirit and truth. U all sure lack the spirit and the truth

Empty barrels make the loudest noise . now go back and address it.

freshboi88:
New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

@ bolded Is the bible lying too?......I do not use logic, I speak what the Bible says.

Am also speaking what the bible says .
So what came through the Father ? Heb 2:10

The Father is not the same as Jesus . so tell us what came through the Father.

2. Jesus is our brother , you will never hear statement like " Son of Jesus " . he was created just like everyone else hence OUR BROTHER . begotten means come into existence

CANTICLES:
Am also speaking what the bible says .
So what came through the Father ? Heb 2:10

The Father is not the same as Jesus . so tell us what came through the Father.

2. Jesus is our brother , you will never hear statement like " Son of Jesus " . he was created just like everyone else hence OUR BROTHER . begotten means come into existence

I have answered u before nah, u even quoted the answer

All things came from the Father the same way All things came from the Son. In Isaiah, the Son is also called Father.

New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

So my friend u dnt have a point. Open ur heart to accept the truth.

Can u tell us why a created being is called God and Everlasting Father?...

God with a capital G, not a small g....cos I know the lie u wanna tell now

freshboi88:
To answer your question...All things came from the Father, The Source, Originator.

col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

So also... Christ created all things. Let me leave you to differentiate between both. When u are done let me know

Are they both the same ? No.

So tell us what came through the Father.

freshboi88:
I have answered u before nah, u even quoted the answer

All things came from the Father the same way [color=red] All things came from the Son. [color]

There is only one source , The Father from whom all things came. No Scripture says all things came from the son. It says " Through" the son. ( 1Cor 8:6)

But the problem is it also came through the Father tell us what came through the Father ?

If Jesus is not part of what came from The Father , why does he belong to him ?

U have ran from that 1Cor 3:23 canticles gave you. It exposed una

In Isaiah, the Son is also called Father.



New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

So my friend u dnt have a point. Open ur heart to accept the truth.

Can u tell us why a created being is called God and Everlasting Father?...

God with a capital G, not a small g....cos I know the lie u wanna tell now

Angel that fought Jacob claims to Be GOD . capital G . so nothing special

Jesus is not the Father , so you have no point


Did Jesus belong to himself ?

Why is he another persons property if he isn't created ?

Canticles also ask why Jesus is our brother ?

CANTICLES:
The fact still remains Jesus is a property of The Father , just like everyone else. that's what the bible says , that I made a mistake in quote doesnt change it. I didn't know you are not so knowledgeable enough to know the bible said so.

1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Jesus is part of what Came from the Father . his properties that belong to him.

When freshboi88 sees that the bible call Jesus a belonging of the Father

freshboi88:
I have answered u before nah, u even quoted the answer

All things came from the Father the same way All things came from the Son. In Isaiah, the Son is also called Father.

New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

So my friend u dnt have a point. Open ur heart to accept the truth.

Can u tell us why a created being is called God and Everlasting Father?...

God with a capital G, not a small g....cos I know the lie u wanna tell now

U are even calling him " SON " . and we all know a son has a beginning . uncreated but begotten , If an uncreated being can be begotten the Father would have been called begotten too , Can't u get the message ? , For you to be begotten means u have a start.

Isaiah doesnt change the Fact that Jesus is a son, begotten into existence .

An uncreated being cannot be our BROTHER .

Jozzy4:
When freshboi88 sees that the bible call Jesus a belonging of the Father

I was just laughing when I saw him jumping the other time, now he saw the scripture .. E gentle. His claim now Is that Jesus belong to himself thats why he ran to Isaiah to make Jesus his own Father , when the bible says otherwise. Christ didn't belong to himself. He is someone property

Jozzy4:
There is only one source , The Father from whom all things came. No Scripture says all things came from the son. It says " Through" the son. ( 1Cor 8:6)

But the problem is it also came through the Father tell us what came through the Father ?

If Jesus is not part of what came from The Father , why does he belong to him ?

U have ran from that 1Cor 3:23 canticles gave you. It exposed una




Angel that fought Jacob claims to Be GOD . capital G . so nothing special

Jesus is not the Father , so you have no point


Did Jesus belong to himself ?

Why is he another persons property if he isn't created ?

Canticles also ask why Jesus is our brother ?

That's the question he has refused to answer , who came Through the Father ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??