freshboi88:


Ever heard of personification in English Language. I guess not....

Barristter07:



Verse 22 is even enough to expose their lack of knowledge, if it was literal wisdom it means prior to God creating wisdom, God had no wisdom at all ... See them

freshboi88:


Please show me the Bible translation that quotes that verse as Apart from......don't tell me translation. The translation u have dubiously manufactured.

Please show me from scripture there are numerous translations of the bible.. please quote it here for all to see.

Because you dont have sense nah.

Didn't I show you STRONG'S concordance in my first reply to you ? Strong concordance manufactured it ? you lack the intelligence to handle this topic

Jozzy4:


Dont be a mo.ron , the life here is not creation . not everyone has it. Too shallow

Jozzy4:


Did he says this ? He Must be deluded

Freshboi88 ... Come and answer this . this thread should be closed already

freshboi88:


Dnt just tell me col 1:15-17 answers that. Is that what u tell urself....if you are asked this question in your evangelism is this how u r going to answer......Tell me how col 1:15-17 answers how Jesus was created

freshboi88:


Resulting to insult would not help u. I dnt know u, I dnt know me, insulting me would not deter me oga.

So why don't u tell me what the Life here means then and while u r at it please consider this very well

John 1:

3God created everything through him,

and nothing was created except through him.

4The Word gave life to everything that was created,a

and his life brought light to everyone.

5The light shines in the darkness,

and the darkness can never extinguish it.

paltielx:
There says he is the firstborn of all creation

Barristter07:


Because you dont have sense nah.

Didn't I show you STRONG'S concordance in my first reply to you ? Strong concordance manufactured it ? you lack the intelligence to handle this topic

Barristter07:


Is everyone in this light ? ( John 8:12) Who are those in The darkness , I guess Jesus didn't create this ones

freshboi88:


I am not talking about your strong concordance.

I am a Christian and I believe in the bible.....You that has sense quote the scripture that says Apart from Jesus every other thing was made through Jesus


For your insults, I know y u r been insultive.. because I asked you to quote scripture for me. I have quoted scripture, you are giving me interpretation. Please quote scripture and I'll believe u.

For the insults: I have one scripture for u

27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

So in what u call foolishness there is God's Wisdom, which is been used to put u to shame

paltielx:
Hahahaha go and sleep so personification comes in now. In verse 31 personification was also fond of the son of men?

freshboi88:


U r not making sense.

I dnt have that time to drag nonsense with u.

Did scripture tell us that all things were created throughJesus, Yes or No?

freshboi88:


I asked u to point where Jesus appeared in proverbs is Jesus a woman, u have not answered?....is Jesus a woman

Barristter07:


Another prove .

paltielx:
You believe the Bible?, The Bible says he is firstborn and you need prove to believe that?

freshboi88:



Hahahaha.....The man has run away. Know that someday in your evangelism someone will ask you this same question

If Everything was created through Jesus....Then how was Jesus created.?......

What will your answer be.

Barristter07:


Revelation 3:14 by the same John says Jesus is the beginning of Creation By God. KJV . its clear without him is a misguided translation

Are you saying John Is deluded ?

Barristter07:


Your translators consult Strong's when translating .. Wait , so it is Jehovah's witnesses that did Strongs concordance ? I cannot laugh o


Someone ask you to check NASB , did you ? I ask did you ?


Once again, if source is synonymous with beginning , do you now accept Jesus has a beginning as written in Rev 3:14??

freshboi88:


I asked u to point where Jesus appeared in proverbs is Jesus a woman, u have not answered?....is Jesus a woman

UceeGod:

The idea behind the word for beginning [the ancient Greek word arche] is that of a “ruler, source, or origin,” not of first in a sequential order. This verse does not teach that Jesus was the first being created, but that He is the ruler, source, and origin of all creation. It has the idea of first in prominence more than first in sequence.

Barristter07:
I actually mean u brought another proof. Apart from rev 3:14 that freshboi88 is still struggling to comment on.

paltielx:
I answered your question, well let me explain that verse 2and 3 is talking about wisdom. How we can use wisdom to avoid a loose woman

UceeGod:

The idea behind the word for beginning [the ancient Greek word arche] is that of a “ruler, source, or origin,” not of first in a sequential order. This verse does not teach that Jesus was the first being created, but that He is the ruler, source, and origin of all creation. It has the idea of first in prominence more than first in sequence.

So KJV is wrong yeye dey smell on this thread

Do you know you just contradicted 1 Cor 8:6 with the bold ?

It says the Father is the source , one God, the Father from whom all things are

Do u really mean this is a lie all because you want to cover up loopholes ?

Maximus69:


Jesus sent us not just to any Dick and Harry, we have unique as in special kind of people to fish out {Matthew 10:6:15:24} all we need to look for is their willingness to cling into what is good! 1Thessalonian 5:21

John (the baptist who baptized Jesus) sent his disciples to Jesus asking "are you the Christ or are we to keep expecting someone else?" Matthew 11:2-3 by

Jesus did not start teaching John's disciples to prove himself, he just asked them to observe what is happening! Matthew 11:4-6

So after seeing the fruitage of God's holy spirit in the way and manner we present ourselves, all that Jesus' true sheep need to notice is "the fruitage of God's holy spirit" Matthew 7:15-20

They will keep the remaining in their minds until Jesus reveals much more to them {John 6:66-69} but first when they notice the fruitage they will be moved to believe!

freshboi88:


Jesus doesn't have a beginning, Jesus is the Beginning.

Now If Jesus is created, was he created through Jesus because John 1: 3 says all things were created through Jesus..... This is scripture not my interpretation.

Quote scripture that disproves this

Barristter07:




So KJV is wrong yeye dey smell on this thread

Do you know you just contradicted 1 Cor 8:6 with the bold ?

It says the Father is the source , one God, the Father from whom all things are

Do u really mean this is a lie all because you want to cover up loopholes ?

Barristter07:


Beginning of what ?

freshboi88:


Oga thank you. I ask them if everything was created through Jesus and Jesus gave life to all things created, does it mean that Jesus was created through Jesus

freshboi88:


So if verse 1 and 2 and 3 were talking about Wisdom, which part did Jesus now enter?

freshboi88:


Jesus is the Beginning of creation,

Just as God The Father is the beginning of creation